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The U.S. army reportedly deployed a specialized "psychological operations" team to help convince American legislators to boost funding and troop numbers for the war in Afghanistan.

The operation was ordered by three-star general in charge of training Afghan troops Lt. Gen. William Caldwell, Rolling Stone Magazine reported in a story published late on Wednesday.

An officer in charge of the unit objected when he was ordered to pressure the visiting senators and was harshly reprimanded by superiors, according to the magazine.

"My job in psyops is to play with people's heads, to get the enemy to behave the way we want them to behave," the officer, Lt. Colonel Michael Holmes, told Rolling Stone.

"I'm prohibited from doing that to our own people. When you ask me to try to use these skills on senators and congressman, you're crossing a line," he added.

Among those targeted were senators John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Jack Reed, Al Franken and Carl Levin, as well as Representative Steve Israel of the House Appropriations Committee, the magazine said.

The team also targeted Admiral Mike Mullen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

'Inside their heads'
According to Holmes, he and his four-man team arrived in Afghanistan at the end of 2009 in order to determine the effects of American propaganda on Afghans and the Taliban, the magazine reported.

Soon, though, Caldwell ordered the unit to gather profiles of visiting dignitaries, including their likes and dislikes and "hot-button issues," the magazine reported.

Holmes was asked how the general could secretly manipulate the lawmakers, Rolling Stone said.

"How do we get these guys to give us more people?" Caldwell asked, according to the magazine. "What do I have to plant inside their heads?"

U.S. law bars the military from using psyops on Americans, and every defense authorization bill explicitly prohibits the manipulation, the magazine reported.

"Everyone in the psyops, intel ... knows you're not supposed to target Americans," a veteran member of similar team told Rolling Stone. "It's what you learn on day one."
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This is pretty serious how many other psy-ops have been deployed against our own citizens, and government officials?
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Considering that list of targets, all they would have needed to do is start the organ grinder music. They would have begun dancing to the tune and performing for their masters without any fancy psy ops stuff.
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Does anyone still think that the military is going to save us from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship?

yessir
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Considering that list of targets, all they would have needed to do is start the organ grinder music. They would have begun dancing to the tune and performing for their masters without any fancy psy ops stuff.
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Haha yeah just start talking about war hero glory and here comes McCain.
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Does anyone still think that the military is going to save us from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship?

yessir
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I hope so, somewhat like what happened in Egypt. I feel that there would be a lot of soldiers who just wont stand for anything like a dictatorship forming, but who knows.
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This is clearly TREASON. If there is no investigation and no consequences it confirms their has been a coup and our government is now in control of the military industrial complex (in addition to the mega corporations and wallstreet).
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Damn, this unbelievable.
But as with everything, the average American will just shrug their shoulders and brush it off and go back to texting and TV.

I never even bother telling anyone I know anything anylonger. Its completely and utterly useless.

TPTB's dumbing down plan these past decades worked better than even they could have imagined.

And I beleive that TPTB will have to go to extreme measures to get the majority of people to protest let alone riot.

Last Edited by wisdomknight on 02/24/2011 10:18 AM
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This is clearly TREASON. If there is no investigation and no consequences it confirms their has been a coup and our government is now in control of the military industrial complex (in addition to the mega corporations and wallstreet).
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I agree but there won't be unfortunately, not enough people know or even care if they do know.
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Does anyone still think that the military is going to save us from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship?

yessir
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YES!

One of our soldiers just said "NO, I WILL NOT!" when he was given an order.

So the answer to your question is YES!

Just like the pair that refused their government's order and destroyed the plane rather than use it against their citizens.

It's happening.
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Thank God some people in intel still have the guts to stand up to this kind of crap. Wonder how many times they've done it before?

Good catch!
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Does anyone still think that the military is going to save us from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship?

yessir
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1275785


YES!

One of our soldiers just said "NO, I WILL NOT!" when he was given an order.

So the answer to your question is YES!

Just like the pair that refused their government's order and destroyed the plane rather than use it against their citizens.

It's happening.
 Quoting: Sandi_T




I recommend a pin.

The whistle-blowing soldier is a hero.

This is called war against United States citizens.

I hope Al Franken is pissed off and goes after the military leaders on this.


The Pentagon has 5,200 people who should be charged with downloading child porn.

The first Pentagon sentence recently occurred and the guy received 80 years. This tells me there are going to be a lot of plea deals for 5,200 Pentagon workers who will look nice in orange. Their sentences will be for much less time, and they will likely get more off their sentences if they reveal information on 9/11.

The Pentagon owes us 2.3 trillion dollars.

Rumsfeld said 9/11 was a "blessing in disguise" for Americans.

General McChrystal and Admiral Mullen for that matter were insubordinate to Obama.

Now a three star general is using psy-ops against Senators.

Last Edited by humuhumunukuapuaa on 02/24/2011 08:10 PM
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[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

The U.S. army reportedly deployed a specialized "psychological operations" team to help convince American legislators to boost funding and troop numbers for the war in Afghanistan.

The operation was ordered by three-star general in charge of training Afghan troops Lt. Gen. William Caldwell, Rolling Stone Magazine reported in a story published late on Wednesday.

An officer in charge of the unit objected when he was ordered to pressure the visiting senators and was harshly reprimanded by superiors, according to the magazine.

"My job in psyops is to play with people's heads, to get the enemy to behave the way we want them to behave," the officer, Lt. Colonel Michael Holmes, told Rolling Stone.

"I'm prohibited from doing that to our own people. When you ask me to try to use these skills on senators and congressman, you're crossing a line," he added.

Among those targeted were senators John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Jack Reed, Al Franken and Carl Levin, as well as Representative Steve Israel of the House Appropriations Committee, the magazine said.

The team also targeted Admiral Mike Mullen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

'Inside their heads'
According to Holmes, he and his four-man team arrived in Afghanistan at the end of 2009 in order to determine the effects of American propaganda on Afghans and the Taliban, the magazine reported.

Soon, though, Caldwell ordered the unit to gather profiles of visiting dignitaries, including their likes and dislikes and "hot-button issues," the magazine reported.

Holmes was asked how the general could secretly manipulate the lawmakers, Rolling Stone said.

"How do we get these guys to give us more people?" Caldwell asked, according to the magazine. "What do I have to plant inside their heads?"

U.S. law bars the military from using psyops on Americans, and every defense authorization bill explicitly prohibits the manipulation, the magazine reported.

"Everyone in the psyops, intel ... knows you're not supposed to target Americans," a veteran member of similar team told Rolling Stone. "It's what you learn on day one."
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"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Does anyone still think that the military is going to save us from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship?

yessir
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Does anyone else see that the timing of this story is highly suspect given recent geopolitical events, and does anyone else smell psy-ops on the general public?

I start off assuming everything in the MSM is intended to mislead and misdirect the public, and generate consent for the MSM's own agenda, which is to serve their corporate masters. There usually isn't much "real news" unless it somehow serves a greater purpose. At least, not in the US mass media.

Trust no one.
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"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

Dwight D. Eisenhower
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applause2
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Among those targeted were senators John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Jack Reed, Al Franken and Carl Levin, as well as Representative Steve Israel of the House Appropriations Committee, the magazine said.

The team also targeted Admiral Mike Mullen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.



The only ones who didn't know what they were doing and why is maybe, maybe the joker Franken.

This sounds like a psy-op story for us... to cover up what these people pushed on the American taxpayers.
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Does anyone still think that the military is going to save us from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship?

yessir
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1275785


Does anyone else see that the timing of this story is highly suspect given recent geopolitical events, and does anyone else smell psy-ops on the general public?

I start off assuming everything in the MSM is intended to mislead and misdirect the public, and generate consent for the MSM's own agenda, which is to serve their corporate masters. There usually isn't much "real news" unless it somehow serves a greater purpose. At least, not in the US mass media.

Trust no one.
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hf
I'm with you jellybean!
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Among those targeted were senators John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Jack Reed, Al Franken and Carl Levin, as well as Representative Steve Israel of the House Appropriations Committee, the magazine said.

The team also targeted Admiral Mike Mullen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.



The only ones who didn't know what they were doing and why is maybe, maybe the joker Franken.

This sounds like a psy-op story for us... to cover up what these people pushed on the American taxpayers.
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I can certainly see Joe Lieberman and John McCain saying "The devil made me do it, the devil made me do it"

Of course it won't be as funny as when Flip Wilson used to say it.
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Does anyone still think that the military is going to save us from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship?

yessir
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1275785


Does anyone else see that the timing of this story is highly suspect given recent geopolitical events, and does anyone else smell psy-ops on the general public?

I start off assuming everything in the MSM is intended to mislead and misdirect the public, and generate consent for the MSM's own agenda, which is to serve their corporate masters. There usually isn't much "real news" unless it somehow serves a greater purpose. At least, not in the US mass media.

Trust no one.
 Quoting: jellybean224 967614



putin

Is rolling stone MSM? I think not.

These are the same guys that started out as a pro-marijuana mag and recently got Mycrystle fired.

You, sir, are an idiot.
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Can they feel that shit?

I had a cell phone conversation with my boyfriend last week and the next day some spammer emailed me the conversation, in abreviated notes.


FU phone tappers.
No yesterday, no tomorrow.
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Does anyone still think that the military is going to save us from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship?

yessir
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1275785


Does anyone else see that the timing of this story is highly suspect given recent geopolitical events, and does anyone else smell psy-ops on the general public?

I start off assuming everything in the MSM is intended to mislead and misdirect the public, and generate consent for the MSM's own agenda, which is to serve their corporate masters. There usually isn't much "real news" unless it somehow serves a greater purpose. At least, not in the US mass media.

Trust no one.
 Quoting: jellybean224 967614



putin

Is rolling stone MSM? I think not.

These are the same guys that started out as a pro-marijuana mag and recently got Mycrystle fired.

You, sir, are an idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271828


I believe there is no difference anymore between the media, especially MSM.

It's a proven fact that even GLP gets the stories out before they do, and much more accurately and truthful.

Remember, it was the National Enquirer who had the scoop on John Edwards..MSM doesn't exist anymore...its all faux news now.
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The CIA films Senators having sex with children. This is how they get them to vote the way they want.



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Told ya they were mindless dogs.
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This is clearly TREASON. If there is no investigation and no consequences it confirms their has been a coup and our government is now in control of the military industrial complex (in addition to the mega corporations and wallstreet).
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Threesomes never work out in the long run.
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HEY

IM THE ASSHOLE THAT STARTED THIS PIN WHERES MY THREAD

HUH


I PUT IT OUT AS SOON AS I SAW IT ON MSNBC



NO CREDIT

WHAT A BUNCH O BALONEY

IM TELLIN YA

WTF GLP
WTF GLP


WTF GLP



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This sounds like a psy-op story for us... to cover up what these people pushed on the American taxpayers.
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