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****The Real Purpose of the Illuminati ********

 
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So what's your answer?
 Quoting: Least Servant


Here's my answer. I considered it and find the concept laughable... hence my prior response.

You're either incredibly ignorant, or simply bored and playing dumb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276550


Unless you have something else, from the perspective of a formal debate, I consider that "a withdrawal from the field".

hmm
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For the past few months I have been starting to think the Illuminati is being purposefully badmouthed...promoted by conspiracy sites (which thrive off 80% propaganda and 20% data)...
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[link to www.armageddonconspiracy.co.uk]
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Hi, I read this, Its good to question Chritianity, yes ! the Hellfire doctrine is a heebie jeebie mess of lies that is guilty of many psychological trauma and should be listed as psycho pathic and a form of harassment

However, dont throw out the baby with the bathwater just yet !

The story of Jesus is a excellent allegory of Sun God teachings that follow the teachings of the Mithras religion, Constantine put together the pagan practices along with the beliefs of the Gnostic Jews that learned from Jesus.. Its still a Gem if considered to be a astrological religion.
 Quoting: EDWARD . M. DEW.( ALCHEMIST)


I'm not all that big on hellfire and damnation, but do you honestly think mother's that kill their babies, and people that think it's ok to take an innocent life have any place other than sheer hell to live for for eternity?
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The Illuminati is nothing but a bunch of incestuous, child eaters, who believe that they are the next step in spiritual and physical evolution. They consider themselves to be gods among men, and that they should rule over them as cattle. They worship the devil, some call him Lucifer, some realize that he is the fallen one.


Jesus warned that "if the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness. The darkness blinds, it hides, it is evil, and nothing good can ever come out of it. My purpose in life is to destroy them. They took my only son and turned him into a mind controlled monkey who can't even hold a job without his handler telling him to.


I vowed to do everything to destroy their kingdoms and take their power and destroy them with it, as God would give me revelation and wisdom to do so. So far...so good. I have seen and done incredible things, unbelievable things, Earth changing things. The Bible calls the illuminati Mystery Babylon the Great, and has prophesied their complete destruction, and I hope to be one to help bring her down.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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So what's your answer?
 Quoting: Least Servant


Here's my answer. I considered it and find the concept laughable... hence my prior response.

You're either incredibly ignorant, or simply bored and playing dumb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276550


Unless you have something else, from the perspective of a formal debate, I consider that "a withdrawal from the field".

hmm
 Quoting: Least Servant


I'm sorry. I'm not going to attempt to engage in a 'formal debate' on a topic as abstract as 'The Illuminati'.

I've drawn my conclusion based on years of observations. You can draw yours. Nothing we say to each other will change either of our minds, or anyone else reading.
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So what's your answer?
 Quoting: Least Servant


Here's my answer. I considered it and find the concept laughable... hence my prior response.

You're either incredibly ignorant, or simply bored and playing dumb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276550


Unless you have something else, from the perspective of a formal debate, I consider that "a withdrawal from the field".

hmm
 Quoting: Least Servant


I'm sorry. I'm not going to attempt to engage in a 'formal debate' on a topic as abstract as 'The Illuminati'.

I've drawn my conclusion based on years of observations. You can draw yours. Nothing we say to each other will change either of our minds, or anyone else reading.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276550


That's a fair statement.

Just be prepared.

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I think the illuminati has too many meanings/understandings. Explain yours first before we should give a shit about your explanation of their purpose.;
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The word itself was the name of a heretic Spanish sect from the 16th (??) century AD. The word looks Latin, and it looks like it would mean to "illuminate" but it ends in an "i" which makes the whole word just grammatically - wrong. What I mean is that the word is more of a colloquialism or insult that is created from mutating a real word. Like a pet name for an event or something specific that identifies a particular thing the people of that sect had in common.
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What i would like to know is if the Illuminati were here to do good, then why hide in the shadows...if they have this grand information that could save the world then why not annouce it to the world instead of keeping it secret.
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And why the need for so many rituals, and initiations? Truth is truth and if you can't share it openly then there is something more to the story.
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What i would like to know is if the Illuminati were here to do good, then why hide in the shadows...if they have this grand information that could save the world then why not annouce it to the world instead of keeping it secret.
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


Look around you! Willful ignorance is abundant. Moral degradation is rabid. Not to say we shouldn't encourage and love our lost brethren, but unfortunately not all people are ready/willing to accept truth. It will all come out in the wash no doubt. Spread love. Diminish hate.
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Moriel,

They have to hide information from us in order to keep us dumb so they can save us. It is a 'Mommy Dearest' type thing.

We're like their pets, their domesticated humans. Of course they'll save us, but we have to be good robots and do as they say, lest we get hit with a newspaper or left out of their 'salvation shelters'.
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What i would like to know is if the Illuminati were here to do good, then why hide in the shadows...if they have this grand information that could save the world then why not annouce it to the world instead of keeping it secret.
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


Look around you! Willful ignorance is abundant. Moral degradation is rabid. Not to say we shouldn't encourage and love our lost brethren, but unfortunately not all people are ready/willing to accept truth. It will all come out in the wash no doubt. Spread love. Diminish hate.
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Without a doubt spread love, and if the Illuminati is this all good, all knowing, all knowledgeable group of people then i think it would be better to test and encourage this truth, and if it falls apon deaf ears then so be it, at least it was out there and for other's to decide....the truth is outside of this place not too many people have even heard of the Illuminati...
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What i would like to know is if the Illuminati were here to do good, then why hide in the shadows...if they have this grand information that could save the world then why not annouce it to the world instead of keeping it secret.
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


Look around you! Willful ignorance is abundant. Moral degradation is rabid. Not to say we shouldn't encourage and love our lost brethren, but unfortunately not all people are ready/willing to accept truth. It will all come out in the wash no doubt. Spread love. Diminish hate.
 Quoting: TripleB


Without a doubt spread love, and if the Illuminati is this all good, all knowing, all knowledgeable group of people then i think it would be better to test and encourage this truth, and if it falls apon deaf ears then so be it, at least it was out there and for other's to decide....the truth is outside of this place not too many people have even heard of the Illuminati...
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


I agree. By no means am I part of any Illuminati plot. I believe in free speech and human rights but look what happens when we put the future of our 'race' (black, white, brown, whatever) in the hands of those who know no better. We've lasted this long. I don't condone what most major religions have done over the years. I don't condone all actions of Freemasons and Templars but as long as there are a few good men, encourage us on our path to make this world a better place. I have no hate in my heart.

" Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has"
-Margaret Mead
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What i would like to know is if the Illuminati were here to do good, then why hide in the shadows...if they have this grand information that could save the world then why not annouce it to the world instead of keeping it secret.
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


Look around you! Willful ignorance is abundant. Moral degradation is rabid. Not to say we shouldn't encourage and love our lost brethren, but unfortunately not all people are ready/willing to accept truth. It will all come out in the wash no doubt. Spread love. Diminish hate.
 Quoting: TripleB


Without a doubt spread love, and if the Illuminati is this all good, all knowing, all knowledgeable group of people then i think it would be better to test and encourage this truth, and if it falls apon deaf ears then so be it, at least it was out there and for other's to decide....the truth is outside of this place not too many people have even heard of the Illuminati...
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


I agree. By no means am I part of any Illuminati plot. I believe in free speech and human rights but look what happens when we put the future of our 'race' (black, white, brown, whatever) in the hands of those who know no better. We've lasted this long. I don't condone what most major religions have done over the years. I don't condone all actions of Freemasons and Templars but as long as there are a few good men, encourage us on our path to make this world a better place. I have no hate in my heart.

" Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has"
-Margaret Mead
 Quoting: TripleB


Yes we are still here but by what default, Laws. That is what has held everything together. You live by them as well as I and every single person apon earth unless you are a hidden tribe that lives in the middle of the amazon, you live by laws...this is what governs. The more laws that are put apon a nation the closer it is to caving, and you can look at history and see this. There are a small group of people that change the world and these are people who give up everything of themselves to get the truth out. True Heroes.....
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What i would like to know is if the Illuminati were here to do good, then why hide in the shadows...if they have this grand information that could save the world then why not annouce it to the world instead of keeping it secret.
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


Though I claim no real knowledge of the "Illuminati", most often the reason for secrecy surrounding hidden knowledge is because there are too many people who use it for corrupt reasons.

Kind of like giving a monkey a lighter...

It's a useful way to start a fire...but without proper knowledge of fire safety a monkey has the potential to burn the place to the ground.

Without intending to do harm.
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What i would like to know is if the Illuminati were here to do good, then why hide in the shadows...if they have this grand information that could save the world then why not annouce it to the world instead of keeping it secret.
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


Though I claim no real knowledge of the "Illuminati", most often the reason for secrecy surrounding hidden knowledge is because there are too many people who use it for corrupt reasons.

Kind of like giving a monkey a lighter...

It's a useful way to start a fire...but without proper knowledge of fire safety a monkey has the potential to burn the place to the ground.

Without intending to do harm.
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On the same line, isn't religion something that has caused the most bloodshed apon earth.
sorry i meant to quote you but i screwed it up..:)
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On the same line, isn't religion something that has caused the most bloodshed apon earth.
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


HUMAN causes bloodshed...

HUMAN with a closed mind causes that kind of stuff...it's not this belief or that belief...it's not the new world order or the illuminati...it's not Christians or Muslims...

It's US...all of US.

WE are responsible. YOU are responsible.

What do people not get about that...you're not puppets on a string dancing to another person's tune.

WAKE UP
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On the same line, isn't religion something that has caused the most bloodshed apon earth.
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


HUMAN causes bloodshed...

HUMAN with a closed mind causes that kind of stuff...it's not this belief or that belief...it's not the new world order or the illuminati...it's not Christians or Muslims...

It's US...all of US.

WE are responsible. YOU are responsible.

What do people not get about that...you're not puppets on a string dancing to another person's tune.

WAKE UP
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I can wake up to it, and so can you and many other people but tell that to religious extremist. Religion has caused more corruptness, and bloodshed than anything since the beginning of time.

How do you wake them up???
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Illuminati means ENLIGHTENMENT

The purpose is to help evolve humankind back to 1,000 year plus lifespans and harmonious living with the earth. To create a human with no need of laws and regulations cause they are trust worthy and have the law written in their heart

To unite Man with God and God with Man until the two are inseparable.
 Quoting: EDWARD . M. DEW.( ALCHEMIST)


In Short: to become as a God. Just like satan wants.
 Quoting: JDUB 741538



Do you even realize how stupid that sounds?

Why would satan want you to become as a God?

Sooooo you could kick his ass?
Finally single woooohooo!!

Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.

"Repent, for the time is at hand"...JC

"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
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Illuminati means ENLIGHTENMENT

The purpose is to help evolve humankind back to 1,000 year plus lifespans and harmonious living with the earth. To create a human with no need of laws and regulations cause they are trust worthy and have the law written in their heart

To unite Man with God and God with Man until the two are inseparable.
 Quoting: EDWARD . M. DEW.( ALCHEMIST)


In Short: to become as a God. Just like satan wants.
 Quoting: JDUB 741538



Do you even realize how stupid that sounds?

Why would satan want you to become as a God?

Sooooo you could kick his ass?
 Quoting: domesticangel


Evil, casting out Evil, a house that does not stand.
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The idea here is to use 'The Illuminati' as a Rorschach test.

I assert it is a poor tool for psychological analysis, as it is possible to reach some level of objectivity on the topic.

For the sake of illustration, I will use an exaggeration.

Psychiatrist: Mr. Brown, What does two plus two equal?
Mr. Brown: Well, four.
Psychiatrist: Hmmm.. Interesting. Now, tell me, why does it equal four?

In this case, the psychiatrist makes for a much more interesting subject than Mr. Brown.
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In Short: to become as a God. Just like satan wants.
 Quoting: JDUB 741538


Dude - you already are "like" God. He made us in His image and likeness. it's in the first page of Genesis.
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Yes Khim ! Straight A++++
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I think the illuminati has too many meanings/understandings. Explain yours first before we should give a shit about your explanation of their purpose.;
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The word itself was the name of a heretic Spanish sect from the 16th (??) century AD. The word looks Latin, and it looks like it would mean to "illuminate" but it ends in an "i" which makes the whole word just grammatically - wrong. What I mean is that the word is more of a colloquialism or insult that is created from mutating a real word. Like a pet name for an event or something specific that identifies a particular thing the people of that sect had in common.
 Quoting: Khim


This is true. The spelling of a word changes it.

The Illuminati, along with so many other things throughout history, most likely started out as good guys trying to bring about enlightenment. Then, as usual, something or someone goes wrong and the whole thing goes to shit. It's the same ol story.

Thank God, it's the end!
Finally single woooohooo!!

Free your mind and the rest will follow.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2

BE the change you wish to see in the world.

"Repent, for the time is at hand"...JC

"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
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The idea here is to use 'The Illuminati' as a Rorschach test.

I assert it is a poor tool for psychological analysis, as it is possible to reach some level of objectivity on the topic.

For the sake of illustration, I will use an exaggeration.

Psychiatrist: Mr. Brown, What does two plus two equal?
Mr. Brown: Well, four.
Psychiatrist: Hmmm.. Interesting. Now, tell me, why does it equal four?

In this case, the psychiatrist makes for a much more interesting subject than Mr. Brown.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276577


I'd like to see the inkblot test where someone points out.....THAT'S THE ILLUMINATI!!!
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Illuminati means ENLIGHTENMENT

The purpose is to help evolve humankind back to 1,000 year plus lifespans and harmonious living with the earth. To create a human with no need of laws and regulations cause they are trust worthy and have the law written in their heart

To unite Man with God and God with Man until the two are inseparable.
 Quoting: EDWARD . M. DEW.( ALCHEMIST)


Of course! That explains why they dumb us down, hide the truth and poison our air and water! Now I understand!
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Ever consider a lot of that is based on bad science and people trying to make a quick buck...

Ever consider that the PLANET itself and possibly the WHOLE SOLAR SYSTEM is going to send us a shit sandwich that the people in charge just MIGHT be preparing for... and a lot of people out of fear and paranoia are seeing some of these preparations being done FOR ALL OF US and claiming some vast malicious conspiracy when in fact it's being kept hidden so they can keep the system in place long enough to get everything ready? charlie

Ever think of that? charlie

charlie
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Oh really then why haven't they informed the public about the underground bunkers for the elite to go to during the coming times? To them the "non-initiated" are just useless eaters and they plan to rebuild the world in their own image onces the dust settles.
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The public is aware of underground facilities. Its public knowledge, It would be foolish not to take such precaution. Meteorites have wiped out the dinosaurs, There was a pole shift and a impact of the earth to its current 23.5 degrees.

Taking precaution and making seed banks is only the smart thing to do.
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I think the illuminati has too many meanings/understandings. Explain yours first before we should give a shit about your explanation of their purpose.;
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The word itself was the name of a heretic Spanish sect from the 16th (??) century AD. The word looks Latin, and it looks like it would mean to "illuminate" but it ends in an "i" which makes the whole word just grammatically - wrong. What I mean is that the word is more of a colloquialism or insult that is created from mutating a real word. Like a pet name for an event or something specific that identifies a particular thing the people of that sect had in common.
 Quoting: Khim


This is true. The spelling of a word changes it.

The Illuminati, along with so many other things throughout history, most likely started out as good guys trying to bring about enlightenment. Then, as usual, something or someone goes wrong and the whole thing goes to shit. It's the same ol story.

Thank God, it's the end!
 Quoting: domesticangel


Only problem here is the "good guys" never hide anything that is of light in the dark.
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The idea here is to use 'The Illuminati' as a Rorschach test.

I assert it is a poor tool for psychological analysis, as it is possible to reach some level of objectivity on the topic.

For the sake of illustration, I will use an exaggeration.

Psychiatrist: Mr. Brown, What does two plus two equal?
Mr. Brown: Well, four.
Psychiatrist: Hmmm.. Interesting. Now, tell me, why does it equal four?

In this case, the psychiatrist makes for a much more interesting subject than Mr. Brown.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276577


I'd like to see the inkblot test where someone points out.....THAT'S THE ILLUMINATI!!!
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


I assume that has happened at least once! LOL
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How do you wake them up???
 Quoting: ~~Moriel~~


You don't. People have to be ready for that kind of stuff. No matter how much we WANT them to be...they won't until they are ready.

Which is why a lot of people are NOT ready for what REAL information is out there...look at the examples in this thread. How blatantly out of context the term Illuminati got taken...and the vile hate and anger that came through in some of the posts.

Instead of debate and discussion you saw HUMAN reduce themselves to basically a childish temper tantrum..."boo hoo...I'm not getting my way in this argument" kind of interaction brought on by some pain over personal misfortunes and projected it into the "conversation".

Edward, no offense to you because I thought you've handled this thread brilliantly...it was received well by those ready for it I'm sure. I enjoyed reading along very much and again, thank you for bringing this up today...and thanks to all who contributed.

hf
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Agree to Disagree! no need to swear at people. In the end the Truth will be known by all. Stop being so impatient
 Quoting: TripleB


Masons stole my kids.

I havent seen them in 8 years

Every single mason piece of shit is dead if this land is without laws. You stand with the cunts who stole my kids, you die too, pussy.

Masons are cunts because they do things for their buddies at the expense of others.

You as a mason deserve to have every bone on your body broken, by me.

You pieces of shit remind me of the gang i beat up in jail.

Sleep tight, pussy

I live for anarchy, pussy.

Thats when you and yours die at my hand


No worries, bitch. Any masons will do as a start
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Laws sometimes swing too much in favor of the woman. I do all I can to tell this world that men need rights too, Feminism created lots of damage. I doubt this had anything to do with Masons , but of the imperfect storm that brought unhappy marriages to many.
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I'm sorry to keep bothering you but how do I get ahold of you on your site?
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Triple B, Im here ! Im sorry, on site my name is APOLLO. Look to the right on my blog and Im the creator of the website.
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Of course! That explains why they dumb us down, hide the truth and poison our air and water! Now I understand!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276550


Ever consider a lot of that is based on bad science and people trying to make a quick buck...

Ever consider that the PLANET itself and possibly the WHOLE SOLAR SYSTEM is going to send us a shit sandwich that the people in charge just MIGHT be preparing for... and a lot of people out of fear and paranoia are seeing some of these preparations being done FOR ALL OF US and claiming some vast malicious conspiracy when in fact it's being kept hidden so they can keep the system in place long enough to get everything ready? charlie

Ever think of that? charlie

charlie
 Quoting: Least Servant


Oh really then why haven't they informed the public about the underground bunkers for the elite to go to during the coming times? To them the "non-initiated" are just useless eaters and they plan to rebuild the world in their own image onces the dust settles.
 Quoting: LoveStarLite


The public is aware of underground facilities. Its public knowledge, It would be foolish not to take such precaution. Meteorites have wiped out the dinosaurs, There was a pole shift and a impact of the earth to its current 23.5 degrees.

Taking precaution and making seed banks is only the smart thing to do.
 Quoting: EDWARD . M. DEW.( ALCHEMIST)


What if it was someone Evil taking precautions and making seed banks...do you think the creator will spare him for his forsight, and actions.
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They worship the Archons and the opposite of true light. Even if they wanted to do what you have stated OP, things would not be as they are right now.
It has to start somewhere
It has to start sometime
What better place than here
What better time than now.

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