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If The Attack On Unions Continue To Spread Look For Other Unions To Strike Too Including Teamsters Freight Will Stop

 
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I don't see private unions striking just support public unions. This legislation affecting public collective bargaining rights does not affect private collective bargaining rights.
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Federal labor laws are not immune from being gutted if it gutting of public sector unions gathers momentum.
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So anyways it would only take about 3 days of shutodwn for the country to go up in flames and then NO ONE has a job or benefits every again. So fuck you and your good buddy OP do it I dare ya
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Oh F-off shitbag. I can drive a truck, and even have the license to do it. While I have a much higher paying job in a different field today, I would almost volunteer my time to help the system if I learned that unionized labor was trying to threaten my children with this type of bullshit. And I'll bet much of the country would do the same - so F-off x 2!
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EXACTLY.
Government employees who are payed with peoples' tax dollars should NOT be in a union.

The teachers get their salary, free health care and free pensions.

The union gets even more.

The people can't afford to pay for their OWN health care and retirrement LET ALONE the health care and retirement along with the salaries of these teachers.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 781996


Your tax dollars don't pay their salaries, state bonds do, and most of that money that bought those bonds were paid for by money created out of thin air by the fractional reserve banking system. Your state state taxes go to pay the interest on state debt, just as your federal taxes go to pay the interest on federal debt, much of which was again created by bankers out of thin air.

Read the Creature from Jekyll Island for full understanding of how this scam works.

You are every much a victim as a taxpayer as those state government workers are.

All these protests are really just fighting over the scraps created by this banking monster, what they really should be protesting is the Federal Reserve itself, because unless you deal with that behemoth, you aren't even close to solving the real problem, you are only dealing with the symptoms.
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So I was talking to a good friend that is president of a local union where I live. They are planning rallies around the country to support the Wisconsin workers. Unions around the country are getting ready to mobilize and are planning to strike if this trend continues around the U.S.

So this union president was telling me that there has been discussions with the Teamsters and that they may strike if it comes down to it because they see this legislation as all out assault on unions. The Teamsters of course control not all but a good part of the truckers around the country.

So could freight stop or slow down? Maybe. It could definitely slow down food and other goods around the country. Be interesting to see what happens. What say you?

 Quoting: The Chef


Considering all that is going on in the world right now to screw the economy more than it already is...
If the unions want to take responsibility for throwing the USA into a FULL BLOWN DEPRESSION...let them GO FOR IT!!!

...and they WILL see the political wrath of PRIVATE USA CITIZENS like you have NEVER IMAGINED OR SEEN BEFORE.


GO FOR IT UNIONS!!!! 5a



DO IT!!!!
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I much rather see the corporations continue us down the road of the Greatest Depression Ever. They are much more efficient at it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1126783


You are such a dullard. AMAZING. :grnrolleyes:

PRIVATE Corporations PRODUCE the money that PAYS for GOVERNMENT UNION EMPLOYEES.


You are too stupid for words.

:dumbpeeps:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer



Labor unions have served their purpose,
state worker entitled unions have become Unsustainable on the backs of the over taxed PrivATE workers (payees)
get over it. Promises get broken everyday
They call that LIFE
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In the end folks, you think this is a free country, but just like all other regulations and policies that have passed in the middle of the night, this will pass too.

They don't give a shit about you!!!!
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I don't see private unions striking just support public
unions. This legislation affecting public collective
bargaining rights does not affect private collective
bargaining rights.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1151737
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Federal labor laws are not immune from being gutted if it
gutting of public sector unions gathers momentum.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271896
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Texas Legislators are consider revoking Chapter 21 of their
Labor Laws
, thereby gutting Texas Teachers compensation.



And the great thing is that Texas has a Super-Majority of
Republicans
in both houses of the Texas Legislature.


The fucking douchebag Liberals in the Texas Legislature could
pack their bags and MOVE to California -- Texas Republicans
don't need them for a Quorum.





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The problem in Wisconsin is not an attack on unions. Public employees should never have been allowed to unionize. It is a conflict of intrest for most of our elected officials. Unions are among the biggest contributors in any election, so most of our reps owe the unions for their support. The reps in return vote for pay raises for the unions almost every time. The taxpayers take it in the ass so politcians and unionized employees can keep up their lavish life style.
Everyone should be prepared to live off the supplies in their house for at least 3 months. If you don't have any stored supplies, you will be the one hurt by this ridiculous show of force by the unions.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Agreed...It will get ugly, but I think this has needed to come to a head for a very long time. No better time then the present I guess, cause it'll only get much worse if we don't.

That said, once we eliminate the scourge unions have become, we need to next go to work on our politicians - removing ALL that support the old fascist ways regardless of political affiliation.
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...



applause2 again!
 Quoting: exStepfordian

Thanks. Most of these shit talking fools refuse to click on links and educate themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271896


Don't all run off at once.

Damn, that Cerberus story must be a good read to those that didn't know. And be sure to take note that they acquired scum sucking bottom feeders Dyncorp last year.

Now who do you suppose would like nothing more than to privatize all the govt. union jobs but a good old fraudster operation like Dyncorp?

What a coincidence that Cerberus would figure in the demise of GM and Chrysler, which is conveniently blamed on the UAW and then buy a company that likes to defraud the government with fat, poorly audited (or not audited at all)private contracts at a time when every attempt is being made to gut public employee unions.
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bump
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For the next page.
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They should teach unions 101 in high school.

Unions organize workers who are being fucked by the management of poorly run companies.

Many well run companies aren't union because they recognize how to properly manage the company and compensate their employees.

When a well run company gets sold to some greedy corporate raiders who decide to just steal everything that isn't bolted down and fuck the employees, the union organizers show up.

You think the unions fucked GM and Chrysler? Take the time to read about Cerberus Capital and their dealings with GM and Chrysler who went bankrupt and needed a govt. bailout.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

If you can't do this and insist on continuing to regurgitate rush limbaugh and sean hannity, you are a willing fool.

Ford didn't go bankrpt or need a bailout and they deal with the same UAW as GM and Chrysler. The only thing missing from the Ford equation is Cerberus Capital.
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For the Cerberus story.
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Please oh please dismantle the United States destroying unions. Please oh please. Then take down the filthy fucking trial lawyers.

Did I just mention the top 2 contributors to the democrat party? I think I did. If you don't like your job , bum then get another.
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The fact is, state governments are beyond broke, and eventually, they will have to nix spending and entitlement programs regardless of how anyone is affected, especially in the face of unchecked inflation. State employees and all people dependent on welfare are not necessarily the culprits behind financial clear-cutting either. The argument cannot be allowed to devolve into a mindless cage match over who deserves the money, because, first, there is no money, and second, this distracts from the original cause of the distress; the corporate banking elites who instigated the disaster in the first place. Already, I can see a certain subsection of the populace lashing out wildly at figureheads and opposition parties, just like in Egypt, instead of the corrupt system and the banking moguls who built it.

[link to neithercorp.us]
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Isn't the angry mob thing great? Every morning we get to wake up to a new barrage of threats from people who ought to be happy they have a job in the first place. I'm sure the 180000plus unemployed in wisconsin would love to take their job. I wish more people who talk about the bargaining rights that are being taken off the table. It isn't that bad. The bargaining rights are being limited not removed. And who will speak up for the right to NOT have to pay in if you don't want to? They must be pretty dang scared that too many people will opt out. A person should not be forced to pay dues or fees to a union if they don't want to. As it stands in the state now, the state automatically takes those dues from the paycheck. In the bill, that would be made voluntary. But, if you keep the media repeating the same thing, the sheep will listen. The democratic party is riding on the backs of the middleclass they claim to coddle. As much so as the right causes us to be cornholed by wall street.
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Isn't the angry mob thing great? Every morning we get to wake up to a new barrage of threats from people who ought to be happy they have a job in the first place. I'm sure the 180000plus unemployed in wisconsin would love to take their job. I wish more people who talk about the bargaining rights that are being taken off the table. It isn't that bad. The bargaining rights are being limited not removed. And who will speak up for the right to NOT have to pay in if you don't want to? They must be pretty dang scared that too many people will opt out. A person should not be forced to pay dues or fees to a union if they don't want to. As it stands in the state now, the state automatically takes those dues from the paycheck. In the bill, that would be made voluntary. But, if you keep the media repeating the same thing, the sheep will listen. The democratic party is riding on the backs of the middleclass they claim to coddle. As much so as the right causes us to be cornholed by wall street.
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Bargain with who? Joe tax payer gets no say in the matter. The couple working their ass off that have no kids and are paying forrest the shitty schools get no say. That's the entire problem government and unions are fighting each other for the average tax layers money.
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So I was talking to a good friend that is president of a local union where I live. They are planning rallies around the country to support the Wisconsin workers. Unions around the country are getting ready to mobilize and are planning to strike if this trend continues around the U.S.

So this union president was telling me that there has been discussions with the Teamsters and that they may strike if it comes down to it because they see this legislation as all out assault on unions. The Teamsters of course control not all but a good part of the truckers around the country.

So could freight stop or slow down? Maybe. It could definitely slow down food and other goods around the country. Be interesting to see what happens. What say you?
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I"LL SCAB THE MOTHERS..
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I'm not sure about long haul drivers, but UPS is non union for the most part and so is FedEx.

I think the Teamsters are not as powerful as they once were, but I'm out of touch on that one.
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Actually UPS is unionized
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Bargain with who? Joe tax payer gets no say in the matter.
The couple working their ass off that have no kids and are
paying forrest the shitty schools get no say. That's the
entire problem government and unions are fighting each other
for the average tax layers money.

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Taxpayers pay the Salaries of Public-Sector Union members, and
Consumers pay the Salaries of Private-Sector Union members.


In BOTH cases, Union members are OVERPAID for their "services".



Unions are the ENEMY of the Middle Class.
There's NO WAY around it, especially with that cockbag in the White House.

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Isn't the angry mob thing great? Every morning we get to wake up to a new barrage of threats from people who ought to be happy they have a job in the first place. I'm sure the 180000plus unemployed in wisconsin would love to take their job. I wish more people who talk about the bargaining rights that are being taken off the table. It isn't that bad. The bargaining rights are being limited not removed. And who will speak up for the right to NOT have to pay in if you don't want to? They must be pretty dang scared that too many people will opt out. A person should not be forced to pay dues or fees to a union if they don't want to. As it stands in the state now, the state automatically takes those dues from the paycheck. In the bill, that would be made voluntary. But, if you keep the media repeating the same thing, the sheep will listen. The democratic party is riding on the backs of the middleclass they claim to coddle. As much so as the right causes us to be cornholed by wall street.
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The president of the local told me these things so they are not my opinion only what they have been told or what they think might happen.

Since I am not a Teamster I have no idea if this will or could happen or not.

The union did offer concessions to the governor everything he asked except the collective bargaining rights. With all the other states following so quickly you have to believe it is a strategy from a higher level.
 Quoting: The Chef


All the people who go into great detail trying to explain that it it about money, " states being broke", "squeezing blood from a stone"...Save your fingers.

It is NOT about freaking money! As mentioned above, the union offered monetary concessions, Walker flat out refuses to allow further collective bargaining, THAT is what the issue is about.

Walker, to refresh memory here, was pranked by a reporter pretending to be one of the Koch brothers, and admitted that the strategy was to abolish unions and destroy collective bargaining.
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Isn't the angry mob thing great? Every morning we get to wake up to a new barrage of threats from people who ought to be happy they have a job in the first place. I'm sure the 180000plus unemployed in wisconsin would love to take their job. I wish more people who talk about the bargaining rights that are being taken off the table. It isn't that bad. The bargaining rights are being limited not removed. And who will speak up for the right to NOT have to pay in if you don't want to? They must be pretty dang scared that too many people will opt out. A person should not be forced to pay dues or fees to a union if they don't want to. As it stands in the state now, the state automatically takes those dues from the paycheck. In the bill, that would be made voluntary. But, if you keep the media repeating the same thing, the sheep will listen. The democratic party is riding on the backs of the middleclass they claim to coddle. As much so as the right causes us to be cornholed by wall street.

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The Unions have CLEARLY over-reached and are responsible for their own Downfall.


For example, the demands for Saudi Arabia's "Day of Rage",
scheduled for March 11, are NOT for the King to step down
(like Bahrain).

No ... Saudi's "protesters" are asking for a Minimum Wage of
10,000 riyals ($2,700), greater employment opportunities,
establishing a watchdog to eliminate corruption and
cancellation of "unjustified taxes and fees". It's NOT a
"freedom" protest -- it's all about stuffing MORE in their
grubby, little Worker pockets.


Unions are only fucking themselves.
They deserve what they get!

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It is NOT about freaking money! As mentioned above, the
union offered monetary concessions,
Walker flat out
refuses to allow further collective bargaining, THAT is what
the issue is about.

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Dude, it's all about Greedy Union pricks stuffing more Jingle
in their grubby, little worker pockets at the expense of others.


The Taxpayers fund your so-called "monetary concessions".



And don't steal money from our children, to then call it
"monetary concessions".
Nobody likes being stolen
from, and then LIED to about it.

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The Teamsters are pieces of shit and don't give a shit about the drivers. Plenty of drivers out of work right now to take their place...believe me. And others will not risk a valuable job backing them up. I have never seen a Union do anything good for it's workers in my lifetime.
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Wrong.. Ya can't drive a truck with a brick through your windshield...Teamsters realize that if the Unions get broke..Everyone will be making $9.50 per hour with no Benefits...

Last Edited by JF Priest on 02/25/2011 12:59 AM
It Only Hurts If You Care...
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The Teamsters are pieces of shit and don't give a shit about the drivers. Plenty of drivers out of work right now to take their place...believe me. And others will not risk a valuable job backing them up. I have never seen a Union do anything good for it's workers in my lifetime.
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Wrong.. Ya can;t drive a truck with a brick through your windshield...Teamsters realize that if the Unions get broke..Everyone will be making $9.50 per hour with no Benefits...
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I wouldn't mind that. Haven't had a stable job in over two years, just part time 7.50 an hour crap.

I'd fucking scab these union faggots for 9.50 an hour.
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The Teamsters are pieces of shit and don't give a shit about the drivers. Plenty of drivers out of work right now to take their place...believe me. And others will not risk a valuable job backing them up. I have never seen a Union do anything good for it's workers in my lifetime.
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Wrong.. Ya can;t drive a truck with a brick through your windshield...Teamsters realize that if the Unions get broke..Everyone will be making $9.50 per hour with no Benefits...
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That's $2 an hour more than 5 million retail employees make.
Fuck the mooch thug givernment coercing gangs called "unions" , and the overpaid underworked dancing dimwits protesting for the public to pay more so they can get more than those who pay them.
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The Teamsters are pieces of shit and don't give a shit about the drivers. Plenty of drivers out of work right now to take their place...believe me. And others will not risk a valuable job backing them up. I have never seen a Union do anything good for it's workers in my lifetime.
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Wrong.. Ya can;t drive a truck with a brick through your windshield...Teamsters realize that if the Unions get broke..Everyone will be making $9.50 per hour with no Benefits...
 Quoting: JF Priest



I wouldn't mind that. Haven't had a stable job in over two years, just part time 7.50 an hour crap.

I'd fucking scab these union faggots for 9.50 an hour.
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You do not understand...The cost of everything will skyrocket.. You will not be able to afford to drive your vehicle out of the driveway...
It Only Hurts If You Care...
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The Teamsters are pieces of shit and don't give a shit about the drivers. Plenty of drivers out of work right now to take their place...believe me. And others will not risk a valuable job backing them up. I have never seen a Union do anything good for it's workers in my lifetime.
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Wrong.. Ya can;t drive a truck with a brick through your windshield...Teamsters realize that if the Unions get broke..Everyone will be making $9.50 per hour with no Benefits...
 Quoting: JF Priest



I wouldn't mind that. Haven't had a stable job in over two years, just part time 7.50 an hour crap.

I'd fucking scab these union faggots for 9.50 an hour.
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You do not understand...The cost of everything will skyrocket.. You will not be able to afford to drive your vehicle out of the driveway...
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applause2 and ohyeah
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The Teamsters are pieces of shit and don't give a shit about the drivers. Plenty of drivers out of work right now to take their place...believe me. And others will not risk a valuable job backing them up. I have never seen a Union do anything good for it's workers in my lifetime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 980721


Wrong.. Ya can;t drive a truck with a brick through your windshield...Teamsters realize that if the Unions get broke..Everyone will be making $9.50 per hour with no Benefits...
 Quoting: JF Priest



I wouldn't mind that. Haven't had a stable job in over two years, just part time 7.50 an hour crap.

I'd fucking scab these union faggots for 9.50 an hour.
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You do not understand...The cost of everything will skyrocket.. You will not be able to afford to drive your vehicle out of the driveway...
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drama = bsflag
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Wisconsin just passed the law taking away the collective bargaining and it's spreading all over the country. Let them strike so we no longer have to pay them.

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