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History of the Noah's Ark Myth (And Jesus gets nailed again)

 
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Rather than being a historical figure who was the progenitor of three races, Noah is a fictitious character found in the mythologies of a number of different cultures globally, as opposed to being limited to one area and its specific peoples. The Bible story represents a rehash of other myths, changed to revolve around these particular peoples.

Like other biblical tales, the myth of Noah is found in India, Egypt, Babylon, Sumer and other places. The fact is that there have been floods and deluge stories in many different parts of the world, including but not limited to the Middle East. In the Sumerian tale, which predated the biblical by thousands of years, the ark was built by Ziusudra; in Akkad, he was Atrakhasis, and in Babylon, Uta-Napisthim. The Greek Noah was called Deucalion, "who repopulated the earth after the waters subsided" and after the ark landed on Mt. Parnassos. The Armenian flood hero was called Xisuthros, "whose ark landed on Mt. Ararat." Noah's "history" can likewise be found in India, where there is a "tomb of Nuh" near the river Gagra in the district of Oude or Oudh, which may be related to Judea and Judah. The "ark-preserved" Indian Noah was also called "Menu."

Like Noah, the Sumero-Armenian Ziusudra/Xisuthros had three sons, including one named "Japetosthes," essentially the same as Noah's son Japheth, also related to Pra-japati or Jvapeti, son of the Indian Menu, whose other sons possessed virtually the same names as those of Noah, i.e., Shem and Ham. As Oxford University Hebrew professor George Henry Bateson Wright says in Was Israel ever in Egypt? (51):

JAPHETH - Ewald...shows, with great probability, that this was a god of the north, as Ham was of the south, once again in imitation of Hindu mythology. Moreover, the fact, that in the Armenian legend, derived from "Assyrian or Babylonian documents," the three sons of Xisuthros, who corresponds to Noah, are Zervin, Titan, and Japetosthe, is very instructive, suggesting that the unknown foreign word was retained in its original form...

"Coincidentally," it was said that the Egyptian god Osiris was shut up in his ark on the very same day that Noah was likewise so disposed, as I relate in Suns of God (90):

When Osiris's enemies pursue him, he enters into his "boat" on precisely the same date recorded of "Noah's" entrance into his ark, Athyr 17th...long before the biblical tale was invented. Noah is not a Jewish "patriarch" but a sun god, and the tale of entering and exiting the Ark signifies the sun's death and resurrection. The story of the eight passengers in a boat is an astral myth, reflecting the solar system. These eight are equivalent to the Egyptian octet of gods, who sail the ocean in a ship.

Also of interest in this quest are the words attributed to the Babylonian priest Berossus, who described the Flood, giving it a much older date:

The Babylonian Flood itself predates the biblical by about 33,000 years, which demonstrates that the two inundations do not reflect one "historical" flood. Nevertheless, the story of Xisuthras or Ziusudra, the Babylonian Flood king, matches the later biblical account of Noah in important details, a common develoipment with myths. Berossus is even recorded as stating that Ziusudra's ship landed "in the mountains of the Korduaians of Armenia," possibly the Kurdistans, located in the same area where ark-hunters have claimed to have found pieces of "Noah's ark." This story, however, is not historical, and the creation of stone "arks" or ships upon hills was more common than is realized. Moreover, the Noah tale can be found in Mexican mythology: The Mexican Noah is named Nata, while his wife is Nena. In the Indian mythology, in the reign of the "seventh Manu," Satyavrata, the "whole earth" is said to "have been destroyed by a flood, including all mankind, who had beome corrupt." The prince and seven rishis, along with their wives, survived by entering a "spacious vessel," "by command of Vishnu...accompanied by pairs of all animals. (Acharya, Suns of God, 43-44)

Rather than having happened on Earth - a cataclysmic event for which there is no solid, scientific evidence - the story of Noah's Ark actually takes place in the heavens, as Noah and his crew of seven represent the sun, moon, earth and five inner planets. Obviously, Noah's famous "ark," which misguided souls have sought upon the earth, is a motif found in other myths, representing the arc-shaped lower quarter of the moon.

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Here also is the history of Moses/Akhenaten:

At the height of Egypt’s power in the New Kingdom, King Amenhotep IV initiated a religious revolution that affected all aspects of Egyptian high culture. Declaring the sun-disc, Aten, to be the sole god, this king changed his name to Akhenaten and moved the capital city to a new site at Amarna. Along with this move came massive shifts in everything from temple worship to art, international relations to funerary religion. This course will set the Amarna period in its context, examining remains from the reign before Akhenaten to the restoration of traditional Egyptian religion under his immediate successors, including King Tutankhamun.

Along with a hymn to AMEN RA:

hymn to Ra from the Papyrus of Hu-nefer:

O thou who art crowned king amongst the gods...
Thou art the lord of heaven,
Thou art the lord of the earth;
Thou art the creator of those who dwell in the heights,
and
Those who dwell in the depths.
Thou art the One God who came into being at the
beginning of time.
[monotheism was beginning throughout the world with the idea of the "God of Gods", and is consistent with the concept of G-d in the Pentateuch]
Thou didst create the earth,
Thou dist fashion the man,
Thou didst make the watery abyss of the sky...
Thou dost travel across the sky with thy heart swelling
in joy;
The great deep of heaven is content thereat..."

"the watery abyss of the sky" is similar to the Sumerian creation story, of 1500 years previous, where gods parted the water to create the world with a third god [see History begins at Sumer, by Noah Kramer]. This idea is repeated in Genesis with the actions of one God. The idea of water being above and below solves the enigma of where rain comes from. The Veda, Hindu scripture, considered this Sumerian story but concluded: "who cares" and left the process of creation unanswered.

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Epic of Gilgamesh:

[link to etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk]

Original Sumerian Flood Myth (Eridu Genesis)

[link to etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk]

Adapa and the Flood of Life:

[link to www.sacred-texts.com]
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No shit, 2 of everything and no food to feed them
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Jesus was the only begotten son of the god Yahweh.
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Horus was the only begotten son of the god Osiris.
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The mother of Jesus was Mary. Sometimes referred to as Maria (Gospel of Mark) or Miriam.
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The mother of Horus was Isis-Meri.
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The foster father of Jesus was Joseph
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The foster father of Horus was Jo-Seph
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The birth of Jesus was heralded by a star in the East (where the Sun rises in the morning)
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The birth of Horus was heralded by the star Sirius (the morning star)
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After the birth of Jesus, Herod tried to have him murdered
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After the birth of Horus, Herut tried to have him murdered
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Jesus was taken from the desert in Palestine up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-nemesis Satan.
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Horus was taken from the desert of Amenta up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Set.
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Jesus was known as the Christ (which means anointed one)
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Horus is known as KRST, the anointed one.
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Jesus is identified with the Tau (cross)
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Horus was identified with the Tau

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OP, you're a shill for satan who ironically hates you, the good news is only fellow lovers of evil will believe your lies!


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Birth of Horus:

Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human.

Birth of Jesus:

Born during the fall. However, his birth date is now celebrated on DEC-25. The date was chosen to occur on the same date as the birth of Mithra, Dionysus and the Sol Invictus (unconquerable Sun), etc.

Horus Birth Witnesses: Three Sun Gods

Jesus Birth Witnesses: Three Wise Men
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OP, you're a shill for satan who ironically hates you, the good news is only fellow lovers of evil will believe your lies!



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lol, it's fact, dude. Sorry... Santa isn't real.
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[link to www.truthbeknown.com]

looks legit, a well done site that one.

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No shit, 2 of everything and no food to feed them
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What about all the insects ? Were they on the ark too ?
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What about all the insects ? Were they on the ark too ?
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Miracles of Horus: Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. He "stilled the sea by his power."

Miracles of Jesus: Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. He ordered the sea with a "Peace, be still" command.

Horus Raisings of the dead: Horus raised Osirus, his dead father, from the grave.

Jesus' Raisings of the dead: Jesus raised Lazarus, his close friend, from the grave.

Location where the resurrection miracle occurred(Horus): Anu, an Egyptian city where the rites of the death, burial and resurrection of Horus were enacted annually.

Location where the resurrection miracle occurred(Jesus): Hebrews added their prefix for house ('beth") to "Anu" to produce "Beth-Anu" or the "House of Anu." Since "u" and "y" were interchangeable in antiquity, "Bethanu" became "Bethany," the location mentioned in John 11.

Linkage between the name of Osirus in Egyptian religion and Lazarus in the Gospel of John(Horus): Asar was an alternative name for Osirus, Horus' father. Horus raised Asar from the dead. He was referred to as "the Asar," as a sign of respect.

Linkage between the name of Osirus in Egyptian religion and Lazarus in the Gospel of John (Jesus): Translated into Hebrew, Asr is "El-Asar." The Romans added the prefix "us" to indicate a male name, producing "Elasarus." Over time, the "E" was dropped and "s" became "z," producing "Lazarus." Jesus is said to have raised his friend Lazarus from the dead.

Horus' Key address(es): Sermon on the Mount.

Jesus' Key address(es): Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5 to 7); Sermon on the Plain (Luke 6:17-49).

Method of death (Horus): Tied to a tree and stung by a scorpion (Crucified)

Method of death (Jesus): Nailed to a cross (Crucified)
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At least post the site that you are plagiarizing.


[link to www.truthbeknown.com]

looks legit, a well done site that one.

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OP is just like his father.


Here is truth, but I'm sure he's busy ironing his wizard cape to view.....


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At least post the site that you are plagiarizing.


[link to www.truthbeknown.com]

looks legit, a well done site that one.

lulz
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Wait for references when I'm done. : / Sources are my last post.
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Comparison of some teachings of Horus and Jesus:

Criteria for salvation at the time of judgment (Horus):
"I have given bread to the hungry man and water to the thirsty man and clothing to the naked person and a boat to the shipwrecked mariner."

Criteria for salvation at the time of judgment (Jesus):

"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me..." Matthew 25:35-36 (KJV).

"I am" statements (Horus):

"I am Horus in glory...I am the Lord of Light...I am the victorious one...I am the heir of endless time...I, even I, am he that knoweth the paths of heaven."

"I am Horus, the Prince of Eternity."

"I am Horus who stepeth onward through eternity...Eternity and everlastingness is my name."

"I am the possessor of bread in Anu. I have bread in heaven with Ra."

"I am" statements(Jesus):

"I am the light of the world....I am the way, the truth and the life."

"Before Abraham was, I am"

"Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, and today and forever."

"I am the living bread that came down from heaven."
(All from the Gospel of John)

Sources:

[link to www.religioustolerance.org]

[link to www.religioustolerance.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.noahs-ark.tv]

[link to www.noahs-ark-flood.com]

[link to www.truthbeknown.com]

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OP, you're a shill for satan who ironically hates you, the good news is only fellow lovers of evil will believe your lies!



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Are you a natural born idiot or have your christian brothers taught it to you.

Go to your rapture.
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OP, you're a shill for satan who ironically hates you, the good news is only fellow lovers of evil will believe your lies!



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Are you a natural born idiot or have your christian brothers taught it to you.

Go to your rapture.
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fuck your jesus in the ass and feel the divinity
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I've also checked the sources against my own history books just to make sure it wasn't shilled. I've got the Ancient Egyptian "Book of Going Forth By Day" the full text of gilgamesh, the flood myths, et cetera. Took me a couple days to check this guy's work before i put this up.

Anyways, there you go.
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At least post the site that you are plagiarizing.


[link to www.truthbeknown.com]

looks legit, a well done site that one.

lulz
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OP is just like his father.


Here is truth, but I'm sure he's busy ironing his wizard cape to view.....



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My wizard cape? Dude, I haven't owned one of those since my LARP days.
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No shit, 2 of everything and no food to feed them
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According to the actual story, it was a small boat, with a rich merchant, with just his wares and his family. They ate lunch for an afternoon as they floated around and actually hit land THAT EVENING. lol
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OP, you're a shill for satan who ironically hates you, the good news is only fellow lovers of evil will believe your lies!



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Are you a natural born idiot or have your christian brothers taught it to you.

Go to your rapture.
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fuck your jesus in the ass and feel the divinity
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OP, you're a shill for satan who ironically hates you, the good news is only fellow lovers of evil will believe your lies!



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Are you a natural born idiot or have your christian brothers taught it to you.

Go to your rapture.
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fuck your jesus in the ass and feel the divinity
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cruise

First Christian on here with a brain and a sense of humor.
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No shit, 2 of everything and no food to feed them
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According to the actual story, it was a small boat, with a rich merchant, with just his wares and his family. They ate lunch for an afternoon as they floated around and actually hit land THAT EVENING. lol
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We clearly see you're trying to pass a fellow liars lies off as your own, why not just move on to selling recipies as your own?


LOL @ the God haters.....



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No shit, 2 of everything and no food to feed them
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According to the actual story, it was a small boat, with a rich merchant, with just his wares and his family. They ate lunch for an afternoon as they floated around and actually hit land THAT EVENING. lol
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We clearly see you're trying to pass a fellow liars lies off as your own, why not just move on to selling recipies as your own?


LOL @ the God haters.....



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Did you actually read it, or ignorantly dismiss it? Are you scared?

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Bump for praise Horus... Osiris... I mean Jesus...
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"Jehovah is a manly person of war. Jehovah is his name." Exodus 15:3
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My real name is Noah, and I have a gift with animals, so try to understand that when I say I've researched this story into the ground, that it is buried. If you do the research you'll learn the same thing. But Christians fear any book but the bible, so... it's too bad, I guess.
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Psalm 23:

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: He leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: Thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: And I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

Hymn to Osiris:

"Homage to thee, Osiris, Lord of eternity, King of the Gods, whose names are manifold, whose forms are holy, thou being of hidden form in the temples, whose Ka is holy. Thou art the governor of Tattu (Busiris), and also the mighty one in Sekhem (Letopolis). Thou art the Lord to whom praises are ascribed in the nome of Ati, thou art the Prince of divine food in Anu. Thou art the Lord who is commemorated in Maati, the Hidden Soul, the Lord of Qerrt (Elephantine), the Ruler supreme in White Wall (Memphis). Thou art the Soul of Ra, his own body, and hast thy place of rest in Henensu (Herakleopolis). Thou art the beneficent one, and art praised in Nart. Thou makest thy soul to be raised up. Thou art the Lord of the Great House in Khemenu (Hermopolis). Thou art the mighty one of victories in Shas-hetep, the Lord of eternity, the Governor of Abydos. The path of his throne is in Ta-tcheser (a part of Abydos). Thy name is established in the mouths of men. Thou art the substance of Two Lands (Egypt). Thou art Tem, the feeder of Kau (Doubles), the Governor of the Companies of the gods. Thou art the beneficent Spirit among the spirits. The god of the Celestial Ocean (Nu) draweth from thee his waters. Thou sendest forth the north wind at eventide, and breath from thy nostrils to the satisfaction of thy heart. Thy heart reneweth its youth, thou producest the.... The stars in the celestial heights are obedient unto thee, and the great doors of the sky open themselves before thee. Thou art he to whom praises are ascribed in the southern heaven, and thanks are given for thee in the northern heaven. The imperishable stars are under thy supervision, and the stars which never set are thy thrones. Offerings appear before thee at the decree of Keb. The Companies of the Gods praise thee, and the gods of the Tuat (Other World) smell the earth in paying homage to thee. The uttermost parts of the earth bow before thee, and the limits of the skies entreat thee with supplications when they see thee. The holy ones are overcome before thee, and all Egypt offereth thanksgiving unto thee when it meeteth Thy Majesty. Thou art a shining Spirit-Body, the governor of Spirit-Bodies; permanent is thy rank, established is thy rule. Thou art the well-doing Sekhem (Power) of the Company of the Gods, gracious is thy face, and beloved by him that seeth it. Thy fear is set in all the lands by reason of thy perfect love, and they cry out to thy name making it the first of names, and all people make offerings to thee. Thou art the lord who art commemorated in heaven and upon earth. Many are the cries which are made to thee at the Uak festival, and with one heart and voice Egypt raiseth cries of joy to thee.

"Thou art the Great Chief, the first among thy brethren, the Prince of the Company of the Gods, the stablisher of Right and Truth throughout the World, the Son who was set on the great throne of his father Keb. Thou art the beloved of thy mother Nut, the mighty one of valour, who overthrew the Sebau-fiend. Thou didst stand up and smite thine enemy, and set thy fear in thine adversary. Thou dost bring the boundaries of the mountains. Thy heart is fixed, thy legs are set firm. Thou art the heir of Keb and of the sovereignty of the Two Lands (Egypt). He (Keb) hath seen his splendours, he hath decreed for him the guidance of the world by thy hand as long as times endure. Thou hast made this earth with thy hand, and the waters, and the winds, and the vegetation, and all the cattle, and all the feathered fowl, and all the fish, and all the creeping things, and all the wild animals therof. The desert is the lawful possession of the son of Nut. The Two Lands (Egypt) are content to crown thee upon the throne of thy father, like Ra.

"Thou rollest up into the horizon, thou hast set light over the darkness, thou sendest forth air from thy plumes, and thou floodest the Two Lands like the Disk at daybreak. Thy crown penetrateth the height of heaven, thou art the companion of the stars, and the guide of every god. Thou art beneficent in decree and speech, the favoured one of the Great Company of the Gods, and the beloved of the Little Company of the Gods.

His sister [Isis] hath protected him, and hath repulsed the fiends, and turned aside calamities (of evil). She uttered the spell with the magical power of her mouth. Her tongue was perfect, and it never halted at a word. Beneficent in command and word was Isis, the woman of magical spells, the advocate of her brother. She sought him untiringly, she wandered round and round about this earth in sorrow, and she alighted not without finding him. She made light with her feathers, she created air with her wings, and she uttered the death wail for her brother. She raised up the inactive members of whose heart was still, she drew from him his essence, she made an heir, she reared the child in loneliness, and the place where he was not known, and he grew in strength and stature, and his hand was mighty in the House of Keb. The Company of the Gods rejoiced, rejoiced, at the coming of Horus, the son of Osiris, whose heart was firm, the triumphant, the son of Isis, the heir of Osiris."
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One of these days you will stand before Jesus Christ and will have to give account for what you have done in this life!
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02/26/2011 10:01 AM
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Re: History of the Noah's Ark Myth (And Jesus gets nailed again)
One of these days you will stand before Jesus Christ and will have to give account for what you have done in this life!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1100531


lol, No, I won't.





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