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The Curse of HAM = WHITE RACE = Nimrod = Tower of Babel = Sodom and Gomorrah and More

 
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The Curse of HAM = WHITE RACE = Nimrod = Tower of Babel = Sodom and Gomorrah and More
*black people ARE NOT the cursed ones connected to HAM.

The canaanites were cursed and turned white. [given leprosy]
i will try to make this simple and to the point.


Genesis 9

18. And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

26. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Leviticus 14

34. When ye be come into the land of Canaan, which I give to you for a possession, and I put the plague of leprosy in a house of the land of your possession; (leprosy equals white skin)


now that we understand these basic scriptures, i will now prove that white people are HAM and not the so called black people.
white people are even tied in with nimrod, the tower of babel plus sodom and gomorrah.


Basic Story Of How HAM Became Cursed:
[i can prove other nations to be white GENTILES also, but i am only dealing with HAM at this time.]

Genesis 9

18. And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and HAM is the father of Canaan.

19. These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

20. And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21. And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


The Family Tree Of Cursed Ham:


Genesis 10

5. By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

6. And the sons of Ham; **Cush, and **Mizraim, and **Phut, and **Canaan.

7. And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.

8. And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

9. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.

10. And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

11. Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,

12. And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.

13. And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,

14. And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.

15. And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth,

16. And the ***Jebusite, and the ***Amorite, and the ***Girgasite,

17. And the ***Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,

18. And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the ***Canaanites spread abroad.

19. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.

20. These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.


**Cush [link to dictionary.reference.com]

NOTE EXCERPT: "...But there are intimations which warrant the conclusion that there was also a Cush in Africa, the Ethiopia" (so called by the Greeks)
[i'm NOT excusing cush/ethiopia whom the Most High also has a beef with. i'm just pointing out there are TWO CUSH.]


**Mizraim = Egyptians
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

**Phut
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

**Canaan
[link to dictionary.reference.com]



***What Will Happen To These Nations of HAM?

Deuteronomy 7
1. When Yah thy Elohim shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out Many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the ***Girgashites, and the ***Amorites, and the ***Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the ***Hivites, and the ***Jebusites, seven nations GREATER and mightier than thou;

2. And when Yah thy Elohim shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

3. Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

4. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may SERVE OTHER GODS: so will the anger of Yah be kindled against YOU, and destroy thee suddenly.

5. But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their ALTARS, and break down their IMAGES, and cut down their Groves, and burn their GRAVEN IMAGES with Fire.

once again, i can point out other getile nations
but i am only dealing with the deceptions about HAM!

it appears HAM was the first homosexual and his line was responsible for idols and false gods.


THERE IS ONLY ONE ELOHIM!
THE MIGHTY ONE OF ISRAEL!

*Eber = Shem = Hebrew Race
[link to dictionary.reference.com]



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I think it is pretty clear that White people are the lineage of Annunaki, and Black people are the lineage of created man.

That was a long time ago though, there has been quite a bit of mixing over the years.

Nobody is "white" and nobody is "Black" though certainly some people have more of one versus the other.

What the Hell Asians are, I have no clue.
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I think it is pretty clear that White people are the lineage of Annunaki, and Black people are the lineage of created man.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


Are whites the albino offspring of Black Africans? White skin is a form of albinism. It appears that whites have “come into being” through a number of ways: In The Isis Papers p123, Dr. Frances Cress Welsing states “whites are undoubtedly a genetic mutant albino population... from the original Black (hue-man) beings.” The story of ‘Snowflake’ dramatically illustrates how it is possible for whites to come into being from blacks: Born of coal black parents, this albino gorilla named “Snowflake” has platinum blond hair, white (pink) skin, and blue eyes! (National Geographic: Mar. 67, Oct. 70). Similarly in Panama, particularly among the San Blas Indians are albino natives that also have blond hair and blue eyes!

They are often indistinguishable from blond Northen Europeans! In the Bible, Edomites are whites that descended from an albino named Esau who was born ruddy (red) & hairy. (Gen. 25:25) The Bible refers to white skin as leprosy (Num. 12:10-12, Lev. 13) and reports that a race of people (Gahazites) was born white due to being cursed! (II Kings 5:27) Bible scholars credit Japheth (a son of Noah) as fathering a (Black) people who settled in the north, ultimately becoming the Caucasian Race.

Similarly, other scholars theorize that Africans who migrated to Europe and were caught in the Ice Age, gradually lightened until their genes mutated to adapt to the scant sunlight, thus producing a race of whites.

Interestingly, the ancient Egyptians recorded the Tamahu, which means created white people. Egyptian writings also refer to whites as Typhonians or People of Seth, both meaning “the devils.” After these “white devils” were first released into the Black community of the Near East 6000 years ago, they caused sever strife, thus the Africans rounded them up, stripped them of everything and exiled them to the caves and hills of the Caucasus Mountains. This explains the sudden appearance of white people in this region. To prevent their escaping Africans installed a series of guarded walls blocking all exits along that area from one sea to the other!

Thus “roping” them off (hence the word Europe). These walls have been witnessed and recorded by many European writers, including Pliny. Thus, totally cut off from civilization, the whites degenerated into uncivilized, nomadic savages. They remained this way for 2000 years until ‘Allah mercifully sent an Egyptian priest named Musa or Moses to civilize them.’

This explains the otherwise unknown reason why suddenly about 2000 B.C., vast hordes of these white barbarians left the Caucasus region and stormed all the (Black) centers of civilizations throughout Mesopotamia, the Near East, Africa and India, destroying and usurping them. Thus, the Whiteman’s arrival signaled destruction for all these civilizations and the beginning of the Whiteman’s rise to power.

Whites proclaim their origin is Greek. Whites can avoid confronting the true meaning of skin whiteness as a mutation and genetic deficiency state from the Black norm - the ‘hue-man’ norm’... Deep within the unconscious psyche of the white collective is an awareness; of their origin amongst Blacks, that Blacks were their parents and that they (whites) were the offspring of Blacks who suffered from the skin condition of Albinism.”
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White skin is a form of albinism=bsflag
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I don't agree that it's Albinoism. (Or Whatever you're postulating there.)

All accounts of "The Gods" is that they were white, and by all accounts of Creation the Gods mixed their seed with the seed of a primitive species such as you see in evolution.

Whites = Gods
Blacks = Created Workers
Semites = Middle Managers, Created Race
Asians = I have no idea
Native Americans = Blend of Semite and Asian races


Sounds racist, I know, but at this point in history none of us can lay any claim over the other due to endless mixing.
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THAT explains why the white man has been kept down for centuries! Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Which is better? A model T ford or a 2011 BMW?

Which is better, version one black man or version 2.0 the white man?

Go into any inner city balck ghetto and you will see the people of edom and they're black.

Obviously God wanted it this way.
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What is leprosy?

Leprosy is a chronic bacterial disease of the skin and nerves in the hands and feet and, in some cases, the lining of the nose. Leprosy is a rare disease in the United States.
Who gets leprosy?

Anyone can get leprosy, but children seem to be more susceptible than adults.
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I thought you were speaking of Honeybaked Ham when I first read this.... mmmmmmm ham!!!!!
....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you....

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*black people ARE NOT the cursed ones connected to HAM.

The canaanites were cursed and turned white. [given leprosy]
i will try to make this simple and to the point.


Genesis 9

18. And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

26. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Leviticus 14

34. When ye be come into the land of Canaan, which I give to you for a possession, and I put the plague of leprosy in a house of the land of your possession; (leprosy equals white skin)


now that we understand these basic scriptures, i will now prove that white people are HAM and not the so called black people.
white people are even tied in with nimrod, the tower of babel plus sodom and gomorrah.


Basic Story Of How HAM Became Cursed:
[i can prove other nations to be white GENTILES also, but i am only dealing with HAM at this time.]

Genesis 9

18. And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and HAM is the father of Canaan.

19. These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

20. And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21. And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


The Family Tree Of Cursed Ham:


Genesis 10

5. By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

6. And the sons of Ham; **Cush, and **Mizraim, and **Phut, and **Canaan.

7. And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.

8. And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

9. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.

10. And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

11. Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,

12. And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.

13. And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,

14. And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.

15. And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth,

16. And the ***Jebusite, and the ***Amorite, and the ***Girgasite,

17. And the ***Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,

18. And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the ***Canaanites spread abroad.

19. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.

20. These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.


**Cush [link to dictionary.reference.com]

NOTE EXCERPT: "...But there are intimations which warrant the conclusion that there was also a Cush in Africa, the Ethiopia" (so called by the Greeks)
[i'm NOT excusing cush/ethiopia whom the Most High also has a beef with. i'm just pointing out there are TWO CUSH.]


**Mizraim = Egyptians
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

**Phut
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

**Canaan
[link to dictionary.reference.com]



***What Will Happen To These Nations of HAM?

Deuteronomy 7
1. When Yah thy Elohim shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out Many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the ***Girgashites, and the ***Amorites, and the ***Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the ***Hivites, and the ***Jebusites, seven nations GREATER and mightier than thou;

2. And when Yah thy Elohim shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

3. Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

4. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may SERVE OTHER GODS: so will the anger of Yah be kindled against YOU, and destroy thee suddenly.

5. But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their ALTARS, and break down their IMAGES, and cut down their Groves, and burn their GRAVEN IMAGES with Fire.

once again, i can point out other getile nations
but i am only dealing with the deceptions about HAM!

it appears HAM was the first homosexual and his line was responsible for idols and false gods.


THERE IS ONLY ONE ELOHIM!
THE MIGHTY ONE OF ISRAEL!

*Eber = Shem = Hebrew Race
[link to dictionary.reference.com]



CAN I GET A PIN???
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Don't hold your breath waiting on that pin. But, here's a few stars for your effort.

Shlm
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What special Ed class were you in OP?

Seriously only a complete Imbecile could have written this, pathetic if it wasn't funny.

Africans are the ONLY people on earth who contain NO Neanderthal DNA, we have genetic tests these days, people invaded out of Africa again when the Indonesian Caldera altered the climate 78,000 years ago, basically it seems fought and raped there way across the rest of europe and Asia and created the beginnings of the ethnic mixtures we have today.

Not saying anything good or bad about anyone actually, all sentient hominids but that is what explains it not some asinine nonsense from the bible, the above is why we are different and have issues getting along sometimes.

The ark by size NEVER could have held 2 of every creature on Earth, it's ridiculous by measure the size wasn't there.


There was a 75 foot rise in sea level around 11,000 years ago, if you imagine today, 90% of the worlds cities would go under water because most cities are located BY water, they need to be, that's your flood, but much of the world stayed above water and people not on any ark survived and so did animals, so while I believe the ark has validity to it, it was a wise man with some animals ona boat the entire linage of man doesn't come from the survivors, there were survivors everywhere

How do I know this?

There was NO genetic bottle neck of substance at the time of the flood
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*black people ARE NOT the cursed ones connected to HAM.

The canaanites were cursed and turned white. [given leprosy]
i will try to make this simple and to the point.


Genesis 9

18. And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

26. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Leviticus 14

34. When ye be come into the land of Canaan, which I give to you for a possession, and I put the plague of leprosy in a house of the land of your possession; (leprosy equals white skin)


now that we understand these basic scriptures, i will now prove that white people are HAM and not the so called black people.
white people are even tied in with nimrod, the tower of babel plus sodom and gomorrah.


Basic Story Of How HAM Became Cursed:
[i can prove other nations to be white GENTILES also, but i am only dealing with HAM at this time.]

Genesis 9

18. And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and HAM is the father of Canaan.

19. These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

20. And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21. And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


The Family Tree Of Cursed Ham:


Genesis 10

5. By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

6. And the sons of Ham; **Cush, and **Mizraim, and **Phut, and **Canaan.

7. And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.

8. And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

9. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.

10. And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

11. Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,

12. And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.

13. And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,

14. And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.

15. And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth,

16. And the ***Jebusite, and the ***Amorite, and the ***Girgasite,

17. And the ***Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,

18. And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the ***Canaanites spread abroad.

19. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.

20. These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.


**Cush [link to dictionary.reference.com]

NOTE EXCERPT: "...But there are intimations which warrant the conclusion that there was also a Cush in Africa, the Ethiopia" (so called by the Greeks)
[i'm NOT excusing cush/ethiopia whom the Most High also has a beef with. i'm just pointing out there are TWO CUSH.]


**Mizraim = Egyptians
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

**Phut
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

**Canaan
[link to dictionary.reference.com]



***What Will Happen To These Nations of HAM?

Deuteronomy 7
1. When Yah thy Elohim shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out Many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the ***Girgashites, and the ***Amorites, and the ***Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the ***Hivites, and the ***Jebusites, seven nations GREATER and mightier than thou;

2. And when Yah thy Elohim shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

3. Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

4. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may SERVE OTHER GODS: so will the anger of Yah be kindled against YOU, and destroy thee suddenly.

5. But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their ALTARS, and break down their IMAGES, and cut down their Groves, and burn their GRAVEN IMAGES with Fire.

once again, i can point out other getile nations
but i am only dealing with the deceptions about HAM!

it appears HAM was the first homosexual and his line was responsible for idols and false gods.


THERE IS ONLY ONE ELOHIM!
THE MIGHTY ONE OF ISRAEL!

*Eber = Shem = Hebrew Race
[link to dictionary.reference.com]



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LIKE I SAID, HOPI ARE THIS TRIBE THAT INHERIT.THE TRUE HEBREWS.
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*black people ARE NOT the cursed ones connected to HAM.

The canaanites were cursed and turned white. [given leprosy]
i will try to make this simple and to the point.


Genesis 9

18. And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

26. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Leviticus 14

34. When ye be come into the land of Canaan, which I give to you for a possession, and I put the plague of leprosy in a house of the land of your possession; (leprosy equals white skin)


now that we understand these basic scriptures, i will now prove that white people are HAM and not the so called black people.
white people are even tied in with nimrod, the tower of babel plus sodom and gomorrah.


Basic Story Of How HAM Became Cursed:
[i can prove other nations to be white GENTILES also, but i am only dealing with HAM at this time.]

Genesis 9

18. And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and HAM is the father of Canaan.

19. These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

20. And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21. And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


The Family Tree Of Cursed Ham:


Genesis 10

5. By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

6. And the sons of Ham; **Cush, and **Mizraim, and **Phut, and **Canaan.

7. And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.

8. And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

9. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.

10. And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

11. Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,

12. And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.

13. And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,

14. And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.

15. And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth,

16. And the ***Jebusite, and the ***Amorite, and the ***Girgasite,

17. And the ***Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,

18. And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the ***Canaanites spread abroad.

19. And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.

20. These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.


**Cush [link to dictionary.reference.com]

NOTE EXCERPT: "...But there are intimations which warrant the conclusion that there was also a Cush in Africa, the Ethiopia" (so called by the Greeks)
[i'm NOT excusing cush/ethiopia whom the Most High also has a beef with. i'm just pointing out there are TWO CUSH.]


**Mizraim = Egyptians
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

**Phut
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**Canaan
[link to dictionary.reference.com]



***What Will Happen To These Nations of HAM?

Deuteronomy 7
1. When Yah thy Elohim shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out Many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the ***Girgashites, and the ***Amorites, and the ***Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the ***Hivites, and the ***Jebusites, seven nations GREATER and mightier than thou;

2. And when Yah thy Elohim shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

3. Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

4. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may SERVE OTHER GODS: so will the anger of Yah be kindled against YOU, and destroy thee suddenly.

5. But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their ALTARS, and break down their IMAGES, and cut down their Groves, and burn their GRAVEN IMAGES with Fire.

once again, i can point out other getile nations
but i am only dealing with the deceptions about HAM!

it appears HAM was the first homosexual and his line was responsible for idols and false gods.


THERE IS ONLY ONE ELOHIM!
THE MIGHTY ONE OF ISRAEL!

*Eber = Shem = Hebrew Race
[link to dictionary.reference.com]



CAN I GET A PIN???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 917351


You said this """it appears HAM was the first homosexual and his line was responsible for idols and false gods."""

Really blew me over.
You no nothing about what you read.
You think Ham had a homosexual situation with his father?

Why not learn it correctly what happen.
What is thy fathers nakedness? Learn it and wake up.
Go read Leviticus 18:8 and Leviticus 20:11.
There is the solution as to what happen with Noah.
Geeish, some people just make up any old thing.
Also, your analogy of what you think of the tribes you mentioned is way off base also, just like your "homosexual" junk you stated.
Sorry if I offend, but it pure junk in what you wrote.
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racist bullshit.
take it back to a harlem church, bitch
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What special Ed class were you in OP?

Seriously only a complete Imbecile could have written this, pathetic if it wasn't funny.

Africans are the ONLY people on earth who contain NO Neanderthal DNA, we have genetic tests these days, people invaded out of Africa again when the Indonesian Caldera altered the climate 78,000 years ago, basically it seems fought and raped there way across the rest of europe and Asia and created the beginnings of the ethnic mixtures we have today.

Not saying anything good or bad about anyone actually, all sentient hominids but that is what explains it not some asinine nonsense from the bible, the above is why we are different and have issues getting along sometimes.

The ark by size NEVER could have held 2 of every creature on Earth, it's ridiculous by measure the size wasn't there.


There was a 75 foot rise in sea level around 11,000 years ago, if you imagine today, 90% of the worlds cities would go under water because most cities are located BY water, they need to be, that's your flood, but much of the world stayed above water and people not on any ark survived and so did animals, so while I believe the ark has validity to it, it was a wise man with some animals ona boat the entire linage of man doesn't come from the survivors, there were survivors everywhere

How do I know this?

There was NO genetic bottle neck of substance at the time of the flood
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ohno

I cant decide which one of these is more retarded!!!
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OP the only thing you said that was truth was this "black people ARE NOT the cursed ones connected to HAM."

"Black" in the context of Ham is a Hebraism that means "evil, the deepest kind of evil."
It has nothing to do with skin color.

No wonder people get so confused in what they read in the bible.
And to think some people are going to buy into your junk.
Geeish!
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Just one more thing for ya there OPIE!

Go read 1 Chron. chapter 2:55.
These are the tribes that kept mixing with the fallen angels and or were direct link to Satan's blood line.
In Genesis 14:5 you see the second influx of the Naphal, fallen angels.
Notice the tribe name "Rephiams" ?

There fathers name is "Rapha" one of the most wicked bad boy angels to fall to earht.
It is NOT the Rapha the child from another tribe which you will see written in the bible.
So OPIE you need to pay attention to what the bible says, not what you think it says. Learn the Hebraisms, metphors, and figures of speech. When you do that, then you will have a better chance of understanding what you are reading.
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I don't agree that it's Albinoism. (Or Whatever you're postulating there.)
All accounts of "The Gods" is that they were white, and by all accounts of Creation the Gods mixed their seed with the seed of a primitive species such as you see in evolution.
 Quoting: Greg_B.



In 1288 and again in 1293 the Venetian traveler Marco Polo visited the Pandyan kingdom and left a vivid description of the land and its people. Polo exclaimed that:

"The darkest man is here the most highly esteemed and considered better than the others who are not so dark. Let me add that in very truth these people portray and depict their gods and their idols black and their devils white as snow. For they say that God and all the saints are black and the devils are all white. That is why they portray them as I have described."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
In Greek mythology, Memnon (Greek: Mέμνων) was an Ethiopian king and son of Tithonus and Eos. As a warrior he was considered to be almost Achilles' equal in skill. During the Trojan War, he brought an army to Troy's defense and was killed by Achilles in retribution for killing Antilochus
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The Bible classifies the Ethiopians & Jews together, "Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, “O children of Israel? Saith the Lord." (Amos 9:7) Black Paul is mistaken for an "Egyptian" and declares he himself to be a "Jew." (Acts 21:37-39, 22: 2,3

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The Queen Cassiopeia, wife of king Cepheus of Ethiopia, was beautiful but also arrogant and vain; these latter two characteristics led to her downfall.

Her name in Greek is Κασσιόπη, which means "she whose words excel".

The boast of Cassiopeia was that both she and her daughter Andromeda were more beautiful than all the Nereids, the nymph-daughters of the sea god Nereus.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The ancient gods of India are shown with Ethiopian crowns on their heads. According to the Old Testament, Moses first met Jehovah during his sojourn among the Midianites, who were an Ethiopian tribe. We learn from Hellenic tradition that Zeus, king of the Grecian gods, so cherished the friendship of the Ethiopians that he traveled to their country twice a year to attend banquets. “All the gods and goddesses of Greece were black,” asserts Sir Godfrey Higgins, “at least this was the case with Jupiter, Baccus, Hercules, Apollo, Ammon. The goddesses Benum, Isis, Hecate, Diana, Juno, Metis, Ceres, Cybele were black.” (Anacalypsis, Vol. I, Book IV, Chap. I.)

Even the Romans, who received their religion mainly from the Greeks, admitted their debt to Egypt and Ethiopia. This may be well illustrated by the following passage from The Golden Ass or Metamorphosis, by Apuleius. The author, as an initiate of the Isis cult is represented as being addressed by that goddess: “I am present; I who am Nature, the parent of things, queen of all the elements … the primitive Phrygians called me Pressimunitica, the mother or the gods; the native Athenians, Ceropian Minerva; the floating Cyprians, Paphian Venus … the inhabitants of Eleusis, the ancient goddess Ceres. Some again have invoked me as Juno, others as Bellona, others as Hecate, and others Rhamnusia; and those who are enlightened by the emerging rays of the rising sun, the Ethiopians, Ariians and Egyptians, powerful in ancient learning, who reverence by divinity with ceremonies perfectly proper, call me by my true appellation, Queen Isis.” (Doane’s Bible Myths, Note, p. 478.)

A study of the images of ancient deities of both the Old and New Worlds reveal their Ethiopic origin. This is noted by Kenneth R. H. Mackezie in T. A. Buckley’s Cities of the Ancient World, p. 180: “From the wooly texture of the hair, I am inclined to assign to the Buddha of India, the Fuhi of China, the Sommonacom of the Siamese, the Zaha of the Japanese, and the Quetzalcoatl of the Mexicans, the same, and indeed an African, or rather Nubian, origin.” Most of these black gods were regarded as crucified saviors who died to save mankind by being nailed to a cross, or tied to a tree with arms outstretched as if on a cross, or slain violently in some other manner.

Of these crucified saviors, the most prominent were Osiris and Horus of Egypt, Krishna of India, Mithra of Persia, Quetazlcoatl of Mexico, Adonis of Babylonia and Attis of Phrygia. Nearly all of these slain savior-gods have the following stories related about them: They are born of a virgin, on or near Dec. 25th (Christmas); their births are heralded by a star; they are born either in a cave or stable; they are slain, commonly by crucifixion; they descend into hell, and rise from the dead at the beginning of Spring (Easter), and finally ascend into heaven. The parallels between the legendary lives of these pagan messiahs and the life of Jesus Christ as recorded in the Bible are so similar that progressive Bible scholars now admit that stories of these heathen Christs have been woven into the life-story of Jesus. (These remarkable parallels are discussed and interpreted in a pamphlet, Christianity Before Christ, by John G. Jackson, New York, 1938.)

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You said this """it appears HAM was the first homosexual and his line was responsible for idols and false gods."""

Really blew me over.
You no nothing about what you read.
You think Ham had a homosexual situation with his father?

Why not learn it correctly what happen.
What is thy fathers nakedness? Learn it and wake up.
Go read Leviticus 18:8 and Leviticus 20:11.
There is the solution as to what happen with Noah.
Geeish, some people just make up any old thing.
Also, your analogy of what you think of the tribes you mentioned is way off base also, just like your "homosexual" junk you stated.
Sorry if I offend, but it pure junk in what you wrote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278230


LOL

ok...explain Sodom and Gomorrah?!?
there's NO WAY around that evil place.
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OP the only thing you said that was truth was this "black people ARE NOT the cursed ones connected to HAM."

"Black" in the context of Ham is a Hebraism that means "evil, the deepest kind of evil."
It has nothing to do with skin color.

No wonder people get so confused in what they read in the bible.
And to think some people are going to buy into your junk.
Geeish!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278230


well it did say for looking at my dick you would be cursed to be the lowest of mans servants ... and if you look since the start of time that has exactly happened ....

blackman loves sodomy its no secret every white girl i know who has slept with black men say they always ask to dip it in the shitter ... they love it

even in jail they do it to whitemen .... they just think with there dicks they absolutely love sodomy i just look at the evidence , blackman lowest of the barbarians , lowest servant to man .. this has happened even now they build nothing , just drain everything in site ...

they sodomise everything in site , even after the curse they got they still persist with sodomy even with whitemen in jail .... i know exactly who the edendants of ham are ... black american's and africans ... the hopi could be isrealites not really sure but the blacks arnt , there just jumping on the waggon ... but let them get exited once they see the gates of hell after theyve spewed all there hatred , they can get back to throwing shit at each other and sodomy again ....

so funny this afro bullshit , so heres the new list

1 blacks are really the true isrealites
2 god only loves them and no one else
3 whiteman is esau and now also ham ...lol
4 blacks built egypt
5 whites are mutants
7 whites are devils

pretty good claims this is just getting better and better
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You said " well it did say for looking at my dick you would be cursed to be the lowest of mans servants ... and if you look since the start of time that has exactly happened .... "

Show me the scripture! lol

I gave the correct meaning using scripture to validate what it means to "see thy fathers nakedness".
It means to have sex with your fathers wife which would be your mother.
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OP the only thing you said that was truth was this "black people ARE NOT the cursed ones connected to HAM."

"Black" in the context of Ham is a Hebraism that means "evil, the deepest kind of evil."
It has nothing to do with skin color.

No wonder people get so confused in what they read in the bible.
And to think some people are going to buy into your junk.
Geeish!
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read leviticus to understand what leprosy is.

it is NOT BLACK SKIN!!!
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You said this """it appears HAM was the first homosexual and his line was responsible for idols and false gods."""

Really blew me over.
You no nothing about what you read.
You think Ham had a homosexual situation with his father?

Why not learn it correctly what happen.
What is thy fathers nakedness? Learn it and wake up.
Go read Leviticus 18:8 and Leviticus 20:11.
There is the solution as to what happen with Noah.
Geeish, some people just make up any old thing.
Also, your analogy of what you think of the tribes you mentioned is way off base also, just like your "homosexual" junk you stated.
Sorry if I offend, but it pure junk in what you wrote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278230


LOL

ok...explain Sodom and Gomorrah?!?
there's NO WAY around that evil place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 917351


Sodom and Gomorrah is another subject and you want to put Ham into that position?

Yes there was homosexual things going on in Sodom and Gomorrah. But what does that have to do with Ham being black or Canaan?
Noah's blood line is a pure blood line and that is what it is meant when God said that Noah was found "perfect". Perfect is not being perfect in the case of what God had stated. It means Noah did not mix with the fallen angels.
Geeish!
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Just one more thing for ya there OPIE!

Go read 1 Chron. chapter 2:55.
These are the tribes that kept mixing with the fallen angels and or were direct link to Satan's blood line.
In Genesis 14:5 you see the second influx of the Naphal, fallen angels.
Notice the tribe name "Rephiams" ?

There fathers name is "Rapha" one of the most wicked bad boy angels to fall to earht.
It is NOT the Rapha the child from another tribe which you will see written in the bible.
So OPIE you need to pay attention to what the bible says, not what you think it says. Learn the Hebraisms, metphors, and figures of speech. When you do that, then you will have a better chance of understanding what you are reading.
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what the heck does this have to do with HAM?
please stay on topic.
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OP the only thing you said that was truth was this "black people ARE NOT the cursed ones connected to HAM."

"Black" in the context of Ham is a Hebraism that means "evil, the deepest kind of evil."
It has nothing to do with skin color.

No wonder people get so confused in what they read in the bible.
And to think some people are going to buy into your junk.
Geeish!
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read leviticus to understand what leprosy is.

it is NOT BLACK SKIN!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 917351


Give me a break will ya.
How old are you?

I hope your not a Christian, if you are I feel sorry for ya.

Why not ask some doctor today what leprosy is?

Geeish!
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BTW

I disagree with OP

All three of Noah's Suns were Black.

I think he is being a provacatur
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Just one more thing for ya there OPIE!

Go read 1 Chron. chapter 2:55.
These are the tribes that kept mixing with the fallen angels and or were direct link to Satan's blood line.
In Genesis 14:5 you see the second influx of the Naphal, fallen angels.
Notice the tribe name "Rephiams" ?

There fathers name is "Rapha" one of the most wicked bad boy angels to fall to earht.
It is NOT the Rapha the child from another tribe which you will see written in the bible.
So OPIE you need to pay attention to what the bible says, not what you think it says. Learn the Hebraisms, metphors, and figures of speech. When you do that, then you will have a better chance of understanding what you are reading.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278230


what the heck does this have to do with HAM?
please stay on topic.
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I did stay on the topic dummy!
I presented enough info that should of jump started anyone's mind to what was really going on with Ham, Noah and the grand child. Geeish!

I added the info to open your closed eyes.
I gave you 1 Chron. 2:55 so you can see the tribes there that you posted about and I told you what it was all about. You can verify that quite easily if you paid attention to what I shared.

So get back into your studies, cuz you have it wrong...
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BTW

I disagree with OP

All three of Noah's Suns were Black.

I think he is being a provacatur
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NO they were NOT black. Geeish.
They had a "ruddy complexion which is not black skinned."
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OP the only thing you said that was truth was this "black people ARE NOT the cursed ones connected to HAM."

"Black" in the context of Ham is a Hebraism that means "evil, the deepest kind of evil."
It has nothing to do with skin color.

No wonder people get so confused in what they read in the bible.
And to think some people are going to buy into your junk.
Geeish!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278230


well it did say for looking at my dick you would be cursed to be the lowest of mans servants ... and if you look since the start of time that has exactly happened ....

blackman loves sodomy its no secret every white girl i know who has slept with black men say they always ask to dip it in the shitter ... they love it

even in jail they do it to whitemen .... they just think with there dicks they absolutely love sodomy i just look at the evidence , blackman lowest of the barbarians , lowest servant to man .. this has happened even now they build nothing , just drain everything in site ...

they sodomise everything in site , even after the curse they got they still persist with sodomy even with whitemen in jail .... i know exactly who the edendants of ham are ... black american's and africans ... the hopi could be isrealites not really sure but the blacks arnt , there just jumping on the waggon ... but let them get exited once they see the gates of hell after theyve spewed all there hatred , they can get back to throwing shit at each other and sodomy again ....

so funny this afro bullshit , so heres the new list

1 blacks are really the true isrealites
2 god only loves them and no one else
3 whiteman is esau and now also ham ...lol
4 blacks built egypt
5 whites are mutants
7 whites are devils

pretty good claims this is just getting better and better
 Quoting: godsaveme


You said " well it did say for looking at my dick you would be cursed to be the lowest of mans servants ... and if you look since the start of time that has exactly happened .... "

Show me the scripture! lol

I gave the correct meaning using scripture to validate what it means to "see thy fathers nakedness".
It means to have sex with your fathers wife which would be your mother.
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well they would do that to , they will sleep with anything and most of all they sodomise everything they just love it .... hence the curse , they've not even learnt from that either they've never stopped they just love the poop shoot ... fecking descusting if you ask me and why would god choose complete savages as his chosen race is completely beyond me !!!
" Are you really worthy enough to enter " or are you kidding yourself ...
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bullshit. the bible is the history OF the White Race. love how starving minorities grasp at historical crumbs to somehow claim a birthright not their own.
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:catpopz:
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Give me a bite of that popcorn, this is going to be fun watching the chips fall where they may. lol

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