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How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?

 
FreedomGladiator
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How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Everyone here seriously thinks that "the shit is about to hit the fan". How many of you have a weapon to protect yourself and your family? I'm thinking about getting a handgun for an "apocalyptic" scenario. I'm trying to protect my family from an alien invasion, foreign army invasion, thugs, looters, and wild animals (maybe even zombies).

I'm just curious as to how many of the GLP members have actual weapons that will somewhat protect them in such scenario. I have no weapon at all, maybe a few knives, and I'm trying to purchase a handgun. If the government doesn't "approve" for me to have one then I think under the US Constitution I can just buy one or make my own.

We really don't know what can happen, we can have an alien invasion, we can have Russians or Chinese soldiers invading, or an asteroid could hit the Earth killing almost everything and the survivals will have to defend themselves with something.

Hopefully I can get one before "the shit hits the fan".
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02/27/2011 02:41 PM
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
It's a good place to start, IMO, but I wouldn't rely on a handgun solely.

Whatever you get make sure you know how to use it! I'd take some private lessons. And then practice regularly.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
I recently bought and carry a Ruger for myself and a Smith and Wesson for my GF ...
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Some handguns are pretty much tiny assault rifles. It's insane. I saw one with a fucking... well, hold on...

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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
bump firing looks funny
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Wanna get a good shotgun also
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Some handguns are pretty much tiny assault rifles. It's insane. I saw one with a fucking... well, hold on...

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That is funny and weird looking.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
no gun will help you unless most police forces die in the disaster too. If police survives, your guns will be outnumbered. If they don't, it might help you kill the criminals
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
If you get over run by crazies, make sure yoy save one bullet for each of your family members and yourself.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
learn how to shoot a bow also.......if TSHTF......you'll run out bullets eventually and a bow/arrow can be easily made/acquired addition
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
no gun will help you unless most police forces die in the disaster too. If police survives, your guns will be outnumbered. If they don't, it might help you kill the criminals
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1263679

...but the police officers can't be everywhere at the same time. Also, what makes you think all police officers are good people? Why would a police officer who is hungry and has a family to feed too not kill me and my family and take our food/weapons/ammo/shelter? Not everyone has a good heart and not everyone is going to be thinking rationally if "the shit hits the fan".
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Handgun is a backup....have a AR-15 or AK as a primary weapon....
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
My choice for home defense would be a Remington 870 Tactical with Blackhawk stock, Federal 00 buck magnum rounds.

Shuck round, point in general direction of intruder, squeeze trigger, intruder very very dead or wishing he was.
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It's good to hold 'em off till you get to the heavy artillery.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Bullets are totally ineffective against airborne fan propelled flying shit. Perhaps high pressure water hoses would be a more adequate defense against flying shit.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Handgun is a backup....have a AR-15 or AK as a primary weapon....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1270082


high power rifle round would kill intruder, but also go through the dude, through your wall, through your neighbors wall, and possibly into your neighbor. Same goes for most handgun rounds.

Shotgun is the best home defense solution.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
I would recommend a home defense shotgun first, you can pick up a nice one at a retailer like Cabellas for less than 300.00. It's simple to use and will inflict a lot of damage. You dont have a "dead eye" either...point in the direction you want and pump away.. You dont need a high priced 00 buck shot or tungsten round...regular ol #8 birdshot will prety much drop whoever with 10-15 yards.

If you looking at a handgun I would recommend either a 9mm or .40cal, highly effective round plus I would imagine it would be easy to come by if TSHF.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Handgun is a backup....have a AR-15 or AK as a primary weapon....
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AR-15 in a SHTF scenario isn't the wisest choice. Especially compared to an AK-47. When TSHTF, you'll want something rugged, something reliable and something that won't mind if you skip a cleaning or two. The AR's are nice and precise weapons, and you can group very nicely at long ranges, but they are impractical, prone to jamming and very needy as far as weapons go. An AK-47 on the other hand is a much better choice, you can use and abuse them and they'll keep firing. Cleaning AK-47's is optional and they will still function if you forget to or cannot clean it for whatever reason. They are also cheaper and ammunition is around the same price as AR's. The recoil might be a bit much to an untrained shooter, but they are well worth it.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Bullets are totally ineffective against airborne fan propelled flying shit. Perhaps high pressure water hoses would be a more adequate defense against flying shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144159


Shoot the power cord...Duh
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
bump firing looks funny
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It does look funny, I'll agree. It would never have a practical application in a real situation, but It's one hell of a fun way to manipulate your gun : )
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Handgun is a backup....have a AR-15 or AK as a primary weapon....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1270082


high power rifle round would kill intruder, but also go through the dude, through your wall, through your neighbors wall, and possibly into your neighbor. Same goes for most handgun rounds.

Shotgun is the best home defense solution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1231031


Not everyone live in the city....want some range to reach out...
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Here are some facts about handguns you need to be aware of:

1) 86% of all people shot with a handgun survive.
2) On a scale going from throwing rocks to an intercontinental ballistic missile, handguns are relatively LOW in terms of power. They're not a particularly powerful weapon in general.
3) We like handguns because they're concealable, they're light and they're easily handled. They're generally easy to learn to use - the glock style are one of the easiest. The 1911s are much more difficult.
4) They're cheap, too. You can get a used glock for a few hundred dollars and the ammo is only about 30 cents a round for something like a 40 caliber.
5) Go to Front Sight (Pahrump Nevada) if you want some awesome and FUN training.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
he's saying the cops would actually be a threat to citizens,
or some such
it's what our gun registries and 'permits' and 'licenses' are all for
so it makes for an easy roundup of assets
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Handgun is a backup....have a AR-15 or AK as a primary weapon....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1270082


That is how most people think.

But if you have to go to the handgun its because there is a problem.

AR-15's have lots of problems in real battle. They only want to run "wet" meaning they have to be cleaned and oiled very well and have lots of maintenance to make sure it will fire.

An AK is nothing like that, it does not need to be coddled to fire. If the world is going into a SHTF scenario you want an AK. It was designed with better tolerances and it does not "Shit" where it eats.

Either option is a great black gun to strike fear in people. Especially with a bayonet attached.

But if this theoretical SHTF scenario is WWIII I would not carry a Pistol. I would have a 308 scoped sniper rifle and my AK as backup.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
bump firing looks funny
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It does look funny, I'll agree. It would never have a practical application in a real situation, but It's one hell of a fun way to manipulate your gun : )
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194147


heh

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Handgun is a backup....have a AR-15 or AK as a primary weapon....
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Oh yeah, you gonna use those in your car? What about if you live in an apartment complex or have loved ones living in your house?

There are many times a rifle is NOT the weapon you want to use if you have a choice. A rifle round can go three miles. Plus, it's too damn big for really close quarters combat.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
bump firing looks funny
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279127


It does look funny, I'll agree. It would never have a practical application in a real situation, but It's one hell of a fun way to manipulate your gun : )
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194147


heh

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279127


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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
Handgun is a backup....have a AR-15 or AK as a primary weapon....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1270082


Oh yeah, you gonna use those in your car? What about if you live in an apartment complex or have loved ones living in your house?

There are many times a rifle is NOT the weapon you want to use if you have a choice. A rifle round can go three miles. Plus, it's too damn big for really close quarters combat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946424


Yeah I like something I can carry
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If you get over run by crazies, make sure yoy save one bullet for each of your family members and yourself.
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Re: How useful is a HANDGUN for protecting your family if SHTF?
he's saying the cops would actually be a threat to citizens,
or some such
it's what our gun registries and 'permits' and 'licenses' are all for
so it makes for an easy roundup of assets
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279127

That is exactly what I am saying. A police officer is out in the world right now doing his job as protectors of the law and citizen. Now put them in a "shit hits the fan" scenario where everyone is going crazy and wild, mass deaths everywhere, and you nor your friendly officer is going to think rationally.

People will be trying to survive using any method that works. We see officers today abusing their "power", what makes you so sure they won't be abusing it in an apocalyptic scenario.
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