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Cyanobacterium can make oil at $30 a barrel - using the sun, water, and co2

 
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Cyanobacterium can make oil at $30 a barrel - using the sun, water, and co2
They could use the technology to produce the fuel needed to keep the middle east wars running full noise? Hopefully not.

From AP at yahoo [link to news.yahoo.com]

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. – A Massachusetts biotechnology company says it can produce the fuel that runs Jaguars and jet engines using the same ingredients that make grass grow.

Joule Unlimited has invented a genetically-engineered organism that it says simply secretes diesel fuel or ethanol wherever it finds sunlight, water and carbon dioxide.

Joule claims, for instance, that its cyanobacterium can produce 15,000 gallons of diesel full per acre annually, over four times more than the most efficient algal process for making fuel. And they say they can do it at $30 a barrel.

A key for Joule is the cyanobacterium it chose, which is found everywhere and is less complex than algae, so it's easier to genetically manipulate, said biologist Dan Robertson, Joule's top scientist.

The organisms are engineered to take in sunlight and carbon dioxide, then produce and secrete ethanol or hydrocarbons — the basis of various fuels, such as diesel — as a byproduct of photosynthesis.

Joule's company's [link to www.jouleunlimited.com]

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Re: Cyanobacterium can make oil at $30 a barrel - using the sun, water, and co2
Hmmm. That's about 70 cents a gallon, then you have to tweek it in some kind of refining process. Probably retail for a buck fifty.

Takes a lot of land though.
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Re: Cyanobacterium can make oil at $30 a barrel - using the sun, water, and co2
Hmmm. That's about 70 cents a gallon, then you have to tweek it in some kind of refining process. Probably retail for a buck fifty.

Takes a lot of land though.
 Quoting: The Monk 959567


Making 15,000 gallons of diesel per acre per year sounds ok. Plenty of shitty bare land around places no one likes to live. Say Detroit could go a new venture to get back into the auto industry like the good old days.

Also see that they "elected" John Podesta to the BoD.

Joule Elects Former White House Chief of Staff John Podesta to Board of Directors

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Cambridge, Mass. –January 18, 2011 – Joule Unlimited, Inc., pioneer of Liquid Fuel from the Sun™, today announced the election of John Podesta to its board of directors. A veteran of two White House administrations, Mr. Podesta will bring considerable expertise to Joule in the realm of public policy as well as partnering with the public sector.

"Since inception, we've sought the guidance of truly world-class directors and advisors to help Joule convert a promising concept into a successful and potentially industry-changing enterprise. We are thrilled to welcome John to the team, given his extensive experience within the US government and internationally as well," said Bill Sims, President and CEO of Joule. "As a leading expert in technology policy and a known advocate for clean energy, John is an ideal champion for Joule, and we look forward to leveraging his insights as we progress towards international deployment."

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Re: Cyanobacterium can make oil at $30 a barrel - using the sun, water, and co2
Nice concept, but it is unnecessary. Nikola Tesla and many others have designed workable free energy devices over the last hundred years, and our lovely, benevolent government has snatched them up and hidden them away. You would need to get rid of the current greedy global corporate elites before any reforms in the area of energy could take place.
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Re: Cyanobacterium can make oil at $30 a barrel - using the sun, water, and co2
Nice concept, but it is unnecessary. Nikola Tesla and many others have designed workable free energy devices over the last hundred years, and our lovely, benevolent government has snatched them up and hidden them away. You would need to get rid of the current greedy global corporate elites before any reforms in the area of energy could take place.
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Yes getting rid of those elite pricks would be a good start. I'm not sure about all this Tesla wireless junk buzzing around everywhere. Haarp fucking sucks. I like big motors that live to drink fuel. Growing your own gas would rock. Like growing your own bonghit
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Re: Cyanobacterium can make oil at $30 a barrel - using the sun, water, and co2
bsflag More hype trying to sell crap read the fine print.

Joule claims, for instance, that its cyanobacterium can produce 15,000 gallons of diesel full per acre annually

Oh and what about the land Einsteins?
Ever consider that?15000 gallons per acre?You realize that is not much in the scheme of things right 15000 gallons?
An annually? lol
A petrol tanker with 1 trailer has 9000 gallons.
So lets stop growing food and grow diesel instead huh?
Not much use when we are dead from starvation right?
Oh and lets see the other emissions that get output from growing this?Like N02....which is worse than C02.
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Re: Cyanobacterium can make oil at $30 a barrel - using the sun, water, and co2
I could see a genetically engineered bacteria that eats crops and secretes oil would get loose and destroy mankind, all in our lust for oil.
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Re: Cyanobacterium can make oil at $30 a barrel - using the sun, water, and co2
The same thing can be done in a factory building, in huge quantities with no sunlight. Just the organism, CO2, and water. Costs a little more but no slow down on cloudy days.
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Re: Cyanobacterium can make oil at $30 a barrel - using the sun, water, and co2
More hype trying to sell crap read the fine print.

Joule claims, for instance, that its cyanobacterium can produce 15,000 gallons of diesel full per acre annually

Oh and what about the land Einsteins?
Ever consider that?15000 gallons per acre?You realize that is not much in the scheme of things right 15000 gallons?
An annually? lol
A petrol tanker with 1 trailer has 9000 gallons.
So lets stop growing food and grow diesel instead huh?
Not much use when we are dead from starvation right?
Oh and lets see the other emissions that get output from growing this?Like N02....which is worse than C02.
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I've driven across the US a few times and looked at plenty of land nobody was doing anything much with. Lots of it. And there is the odd bit of spare dirt in other countries. Which could always be an option if they carry on with the outsourcing drive taking place. Water is a different story in most places.

I don't know where you got the NO2 from? But I think diesel is a better fuel than gasoline looking at emissions. Either way the air-con seems to keep everything cool and fresh in the cab.

From US Dept. of Trasportation the figure for the "Average annual fuel consumed per vehicle (gallons)" for 2006 was 697 gallons (Includes personal passenger vehicles, buses, and trucks.) So that is enough fuel for 21 average vehciles per year from 1 acre.

source [link to www.infoplease.com]





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