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Why are so many Jews white?

 
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Who cares? Since when is pigment relevant to religion?

What's with all the white muslims in eastern europe?
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Judaism might be a religion, but world Jewry isn't. What about all the secular Jews who reside in Israel? What do they claim gives them a right to live there? Religious myths, even when they claim not to be religious.

Isn't that a pretty fucked up contradiction?
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The United Nations and international law.
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
probably this is why:



or maybe because of this:




Jews specifically marry whiter or lighter skinned women and well dayyyuuuummmmmmmmm! who doesn't wanna be white!!!

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Many Jewish tribes that fled ancient Israel went to Asia, as well as Europe, but the former is less well known. Jewish communities that are older than 1000 years, are documented as far as China and Japan. The Kaifeng Jews in China are one such early Jewish settlement, who's decsendents are still present to this day. Many Jewish scholars and Israeli officials acknowledge the parallels between Japanese culture and Jewish culture, including language and ceremonial traditions. Jews and Japanese, alike, have long acknowledged uncanny similarities of these two groups.









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I mean aren't white people just some quite recent mutation that happened somewhere around north-eastern Europe? Are we suppossed to believe the ancient Israelites were as white as the majority of Ashkenazim Jews are nowadays?
And if diaspora Jews claim to be whiter because having intermixed with European populations, how valuable is their claim of direct descendance from Abraham if their genes are so dilluted as to change their phenotype so much?

Jews stand out like a sore thumb among the brown masses in the Middle East, and they are often whiter than even southern Europeans, what's the deal with that?

Discuss.
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besides the fact that Jews are not white on average, being Black is not a requirement for being from the middle east.
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
You never heard of ...Black Jew soup?
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
....because all real 'Jews' and the rest of the 11 tribes of Israel, ARE white.
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OK so how do you explain that? How did white people arrived to ancient Mesopotamia?

I can't find a scientifically acceptable answer. I could accept a theory such as that an ancient civilization like Atlantis was destroyed by a cataclysm and the ones who escaped the destruction settled in ancient Mesopotamia and started the new "Eden". And that these people were in fact the origin of white people instead of the bogus scientific evolution theories which most of the time don't make any sense.
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I would have to explain that to you Biblically

and somehow, i think that would be a waste of time with YOU.
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Yes, nonsensical explanations are always a waste of time.

And btw, how did Africans get to Australia 60 kya? Well I don't think they did. But what's your explanation anyway?=
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
Who cares? Since when is pigment relevant to religion?

What's with all the white muslims in eastern europe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1275283


Judaism might be a religion, but world Jewry isn't. What about all the secular Jews who reside in Israel? What do they claim gives them a right to live there? Religious myths, even when they claim not to be religious.

Isn't that a pretty fucked up contradiction?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


The United Nations and international law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1275283


Yes, and based on what? on the claim that Jews make to descend from Abraham and that God gave them that land in some covenant, which is all related to religion. Yet not all Jews are religious, so basically there's a contradiction there, can you see that?

The Torah is not history, it's religious mythology, the fact that the U.N and international law gave diaspora Jews a land already occupied based on a mythologic book defies all logic and reason.
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I mean aren't white people just some quite recent mutation that happened somewhere around north-eastern Europe? Are we suppossed to believe the ancient Israelites were as white as the majority of Ashkenazim Jews are nowadays?
And if diaspora Jews claim to be whiter because having intermixed with European populations, how valuable is their claim of direct descendance from Abraham if their genes are so dilluted as to change their phenotype so much?

Jews stand out like a sore thumb among the brown masses in the Middle East, and they are often whiter than even southern Europeans, what's the deal with that?

Discuss.
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Why do you keep acting like you were born yesterday?

Your shillism is such a drag, and too obvious.
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I mean aren't white people just some quite recent mutation that happened somewhere around north-eastern Europe? Are we suppossed to believe the ancient Israelites were as white as the majority of Ashkenazim Jews are nowadays?
And if diaspora Jews claim to be whiter because having intermixed with European populations, how valuable is their claim of direct descendance from Abraham if their genes are so dilluted as to change their phenotype so much?

Jews stand out like a sore thumb among the brown masses in the Middle East, and they are often whiter than even southern Europeans, what's the deal with that?

Discuss.
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Why do you keep acting like you were born yesterday?

Your shillism is such a drag, and too obvious.
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It's an honest question. I tend to accept the possibility that ancient Hebrews were fair looking people, and so were the Ancient Egyptians founders and subsequent elites. But that could only be explained by a migration of white people into Mesopotamia and north Africa by some form of migrants perhaps from Atlantis or such ancient civilization. I don't think it was a back migration from Europe, nor that white people just "evolved" in the Middle east.
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Who cares? Since when is pigment relevant to religion?

What's with all the white muslims in eastern europe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1275283


Judaism might be a religion, but world Jewry isn't. What about all the secular Jews who reside in Israel? What do they claim gives them a right to live there? Religious myths, even when they claim not to be religious.

Isn't that a pretty fucked up contradiction?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


The United Nations and international law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1275283


Yes, and based on what? on the claim that Jews make to descend from Abraham and that God gave them that land in some covenant, which is all related to religion. Yet not all Jews are religious, so basically there's a contradiction there, can you see that?

The Torah is not history, it's religious mythology, the fact that the U.N and international law gave diaspora Jews a land already occupied based on a mythologic book defies all logic and reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


this is called a 'straw man' in debating terms. You are creating a false position and then debating against this false position.

Israel doesn't exist solely on the basis of what is in the Torah. It was formed, legally, much like any other country in the region or elsewhere. Jews were already living there before the Balfour declaration. The land was not stolen, and was not given to Jews solely on religious grounds.
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
....because all real 'Jews' and the rest of the 11 tribes of Israel, ARE white.
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OK so how do you explain that? How did white people arrived to ancient Mesopotamia?

I can't find a scientifically acceptable answer. I could accept a theory such as that an ancient civilization like Atlantis was destroyed by a cataclysm and the ones who escaped the destruction settled in ancient Mesopotamia and started the new "Eden". And that these people were in fact the origin of white people instead of the bogus scientific evolution theories which most of the time don't make any sense.
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I would have to explain that to you Biblically

and somehow, i think that would be a waste of time with YOU.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1107780


Yes, nonsensical explanations are always a waste of time.

And btw, how did Africans get to Australia 60 kya? Well I don't think they did. But what's your explanation anyway?=
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


Any explanation you will hear will never be more than a theory relying on small clues and whatever the current ideology dictates.

All I know for sure is that climate alone will not make melanin increase or decrease significantly over a thousand generation.

Proof: Inuits near the arctic circle are fairly dark despite the lack of sun light- Tasmanian Aboriginals were very dark - despite the very European like climate of Tasmania.
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
If you want to speak to someone who has taken a serious study on the subject. It's someone like me.

Here is a way to help you see a bigger picture in a few sentences. You may do the research on your own time.

There is no way to know who an "Israelite" is. History and Science presents a few challenges.

Before the rebuilding of Solomon's temple several massive conversions were applied.

During the building of Solomon's temple most Jews but 48,000 were denied participation because lack of proof. Not only were they not real Israelite's but they did not fully convert. They would worship their own gods along with the god of Israel.

These same ancient texts claim that more than 1 million Israelites were last seen in Egypt before they continued their escape from Assyria into Western Africa.

We know that Jews presented an extreme economic problem in West Africa for muslims since they were told to either convert or leave. Many converted, while some kept their religion secret, while in fact many did leave for the coasts of West Africa.

With massive conversions in Europe and Africa, the original Israelites would become absorbed into the populace unable to provide proof of identity.

I believe that this was the point of their exile, since it means nothing to be an Israelite outside of your land(philosophy)?

DNA proves that Jews are blood related to Samaritans a stock of converts according to the bible. Although the Samaritans consider themselves to be Jews. All DNA proven jews have this in common with Samaritans.

If you have any further questions or would like elaboration, feel free to ask

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Judaism might be a religion, but world Jewry isn't. What about all the secular Jews who reside in Israel? What do they claim gives them a right to live there? Religious myths, even when they claim not to be religious.

Isn't that a pretty fucked up contradiction?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


The United Nations and international law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1275283


Yes, and based on what? on the claim that Jews make to descend from Abraham and that God gave them that land in some covenant, which is all related to religion. Yet not all Jews are religious, so basically there's a contradiction there, can you see that?

The Torah is not history, it's religious mythology, the fact that the U.N and international law gave diaspora Jews a land already occupied based on a mythologic book defies all logic and reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


this is called a 'straw man' in debating terms. You are creating a false position and then debating against this false position.

Israel doesn't exist solely on the basis of what is in the Torah. It was formed, legally, much like any other country in the region or elsewhere. Jews were already living there before the Balfour declaration. The land was not stolen, and was not given to Jews solely on religious grounds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233159



Zionists were offered other lands to inhabit and they refused based on a RELIGIOUS claim, so the origin of Zionism and thus ISrael is based on religion NOT on the fact that Jews were already living there. Jews were living in many places and that didn't mean that those nations were suddenly turned into a JEwish state by international law right?

Besides you are supporting my initial point which is that Jewishness is not only related to religion but to ethnicity, which ironically can be traced to religion anyways because the idea of a Jewish people is based on genealogies found in a religious book who has never been proven to be based on any sound facts,.
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
this is how a real jew looked!!

[link to www.old-picture.com]

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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
If you want to speak to someone who has taken a serious study on the subject. It's someone like me.

Here is a way to help you see a bigger picture in a few sentences. You may do the research on your own time.

There is no way to know who an "Israelite" is. History and Science presents a few challenges.

Before the rebuilding of Solomon's temple several massive conversions were applied.

During the building of Solomon's temple most Jews but 48,000 were denied participation because lack of proof. Not only were they not real Israelite's but they did not fully convert. They would worship their own gods along with the god of Israel.

These same ancient texts claim that more than 1 million Israelites were last seen in Egypt before they continued their escape from Assyria into Western Africa.

We know that Jews presented an extreme economic problem in West Africa for muslims since they were told to either convert or leave. Many converted, while some kept their religion secret, while in fact many did leave for the coasts of West Africa.

With massive conversions in Europe and Africa, the original Israelites would become absorbed into the populace unable to provide proof of identity.

I believe that this was the point of their exile, since it means nothing to be an Israelite outside of your land(philosophy)?

DNA proves that Jews are blood related to Samaritans a stock of converts according to the bible. Although the Samaritans consider themselves to be Jews. All DNA proven jews have this in common with Samaritans.

If you have any further questions or would like elaboration, feel free to ask
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I agree JARD


Btw realufoman, I think your post was interesting but I don't quite see what your conclusion is regarding the OP?
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
Whites with beaks. And dont ya know Barry aint white.
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I agree JARD


Btw realufoman, I think your post was interesting but I don't quite see what your conclusion is regarding the OP?
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The reason as to why there are so many white jew's can be answered in many ways. The popularity of Abrahamic religions stems over all races and creeds. Asians, Africans, and Europeans flock to Judaism every year as other religions.

Essentially There is no difference between a Hamite and Semite by skin color

When Joseph was Visor in Egypt, his Hebrew brothers had no idea who he could be
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I agree JARD


Btw realufoman, I think your post was interesting but I don't quite see what your conclusion is regarding the OP?
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The reason as to why there are so many white jew's can be answered in many ways. The popularity of Abrahamic religions stems over all races and creeds. Asians, Africans, and Europeans flock to Judaism every year as other religions.

Essentially There is no difference between a Hamite and Semite by skin color

When Joseph was Visor in Egypt, his Hebrew brothers had no idea who he could be
 Quoting: TheRealUFOMan


Which could have been either because they were all dark or all fair, or we could conclude that if the Egyptian elites were fair then Joseph could pass off one of them because he was alike, or viceversa.

It's all quite theoretical, although I tend to believe all the founders of these ancient mesopotamic civilizations were refugees from Atlantis who were white and later on migrated north to Europe and founded European civilization.

This explains how suddenly in Sumeria a full fledged civilization appeared out of the blue 6000 kya and how all the civilizations that came after them followed the same patterns.

It makes quite a lot of sense doesn't it?
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"Israelites"?

First off, Israel is the name that God gave Jacob who sired twelves sons who became the heads of twelve tribes, with two of those tribes being what is now known as Jews, Judah and Benjamin and from Levi come the priests for same. So all Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews, it is that simple. Abraham was progenitor of many peoples, including the Arab world.
Jews are not now nor never been black, but there are people who adopted and have a long Jewish heritage who are black.
Why do you get hung up on so much nothing to begin with?
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
All Jews would be Israelites if they could trace their ancestry irrefutably to this mythical Abraham figure, which is not the case by any means.
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
i think the OP has been brainwashed by the black isrealites , alot of false prphits will come in jesus name and decive many into hatred ,,,,

just looking at the black hebrew isrealites tree ...

the fruit is descustingly vile full of hatred for whites , there vile ....
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And you .. you are full of love? lmao
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yeah and you are full of shit lmao

i do love everyone and all races if they treat me with respect i do them also , i hate the black isrealites cos they just teach whites are all devils when they are not , some are though , but they are in every race , i hate the greed corruption and theft , im all for the old testament and muslims are fine to..ok buddie
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
I mean aren't white people just some quite recent mutation that happened somewhere around north-eastern Europe? Discuss.
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No neanderthal fossils have ever been found in Africa, and no modern african has any Neanderthal DNA.

European Cro magnon, which is the origin of RH negative blood, has nothing to do with Africa

In other words, the afrocentric out-of-africa theory is BS

Humanity is a hybrid species, blacks did not "turn into" asians or whites, sorry ;)


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I tend to agree with this view but I tried to go with the mainstream theory.

Regarding the point Middle Easterners are considered caucasian, yes they are, but they aren't "white" as in European white, except of course Jews who mostly can pass off for European without any problem.

Are we to suggest somehow ancient Hebrews and their Sumerian ancestors somehow came "down" from Europe and established in ancient Mesopotamia?
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during the last ice age, sea/ocean levels were 425 feet lower. After Atlantis "sunk" or the ice melted and covered it up, the survivors rebuilt civilization from turkey/armenia.. Mount Ararat (see Noah flood story).

so pre flood = Atlantis

Post Flood = Middle east

Middle eastertners are not caucasians with a suntan.. they are a hybrid of caucasian, asian, and african

closer to africa, more dark, closer to asia, more asian looking... most royalty and nobility will have more caucasian features (see India, caste system, etc)

You'll notice almost all roayalty has RH negative blood... remnants from antidevulian times
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I agree JARD


Btw realufoman, I think your post was interesting but I don't quite see what your conclusion is regarding the OP?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


The reason as to why there are so many white jew's can be answered in many ways. The popularity of Abrahamic religions stems over all races and creeds. Asians, Africans, and Europeans flock to Judaism every year as other religions.

Essentially There is no difference between a Hamite and Semite by skin color

When Joseph was Visor in Egypt, his Hebrew brothers had no idea who he could be
 Quoting: TheRealUFOMan


Which could have been either because they were all dark or all fair, or we could conclude that if the Egyptian elites were fair then Joseph could pass off one of them because he was alike, or viceversa.

It's all quite theoretical, although I tend to believe all the founders of these ancient mesopotamic civilizations were refugees from Atlantis who were white and later on migrated north to Europe and founded European civilization.

This explains how suddenly in Sumeria a full fledged civilization appeared out of the blue 6000 kya and how all the civilizations that came after them followed the same patterns.

It makes quite a lot of sense doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


I don't think it matters what skin color you think anyone is, i tend to stay away from making that decision and exhibit the evidence.

What i can conclude is that National Geographic makes the claim that all humans began in Ethiopia/Nubia. This means the ancient texts were enlightening to human migrations when it asks the Israelites are you not like Ethiopians to me?

I believe it's time to stop looking a history with a bias and trying to label a skin tone on people we have never seen after thousands and migrations and conquering bands change the maps as we know them today.

Just 600 years ago Native Americans lived here, change is rapid. And to try to label a skin color on anyone we haven't seen is not political correct and an obvious attempt to dominate intellectual basis of history for what ever personal gains we might have like ego.

The only thing which matters to me is character, and it is shame that only one race of any religion is given attention, as this is the only way to human unification.
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I mean aren't white people just some quite recent mutation that happened somewhere around north-eastern Europe? Discuss.
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No neanderthal fossils have ever been found in Africa, and no modern african has any Neanderthal DNA.

European Cro magnon, which is the origin of RH negative blood, has nothing to do with Africa

In other words, the afrocentric out-of-africa theory is BS

Humanity is a hybrid species, blacks did not "turn into" asians or whites, sorry ;)


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I tend to agree with this view but I tried to go with the mainstream theory.

Regarding the point Middle Easterners are considered caucasian, yes they are, but they aren't "white" as in European white, except of course Jews who mostly can pass off for European without any problem.

Are we to suggest somehow ancient Hebrews and their Sumerian ancestors somehow came "down" from Europe and established in ancient Mesopotamia?
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during the last ice age, sea/ocean levels were 425 feet lower. After Atlantis "sunk" or the ice melted and covered it up, the survivors rebuilt civilization from turkey/armenia.. Mount Ararat (see Noah flood story).

so pre flood = Atlantis

Post Flood = Middle east

Middle eastertners are not caucasians with a suntan.. they are a hybrid of caucasian, asian, and african

closer to africa, more dark, closer to asia, more asian looking... most royalty and nobility will have more caucasian features (see India, caste system, etc)

You'll notice almost all roayalty has RH negative blood... remnants from antidevulian times
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
"Israelites"?

First off, Israel is the name that God gave Jacob who sired twelves sons who became the heads of twelve tribes, with two of those tribes being what is now known as Jews, Judah and Benjamin and from Levi come the priests for same. So all Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews, it is that simple. Abraham was progenitor of many peoples, including the Arab world.
Jews are not now nor never been black, but there are people who adopted and have a long Jewish heritage who are black.
Why do you get hung up on so much nothing to begin with?
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cos the op is a true isrealite ...and he hate whitey lmao
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All Jews would be Israelites if they could trace their ancestry irrefutably to this mythical Abraham figure, which is not the case by any means.
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This also became a problem for Jesus and the Pharisees leaders.

One should remember pharisees leaders were often converts.

This would be seen as blasphemy to the god of Israel.
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"Israelites"?

First off, Israel is the name that God gave Jacob who sired twelves sons who became the heads of twelve tribes, with two of those tribes being what is now known as Jews, Judah and Benjamin and from Levi come the priests for same. So all Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews, it is that simple. Abraham was progenitor of many peoples, including the Arab world.
Jews are not now nor never been black, but there are people who adopted and have a long Jewish heritage who are black.
Why do you get hung up on so much nothing to begin with?
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cos the op is a true isrealite ...and he hate whitey lmao
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Although it's hard to read your posts through all the misspellings, i believe it is unfair to label scholars who have specific questions in theology and history.

What point in history do you hold the greatest knowledge? I must ask
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"Israelites"?

First off, Israel is the name that God gave Jacob who sired twelves sons who became the heads of twelve tribes, with two of those tribes being what is now known as Jews, Judah and Benjamin and from Levi come the priests for same. So all Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews, it is that simple. Abraham was progenitor of many peoples, including the Arab world.
Jews are not now nor never been black, but there are people who adopted and have a long Jewish heritage who are black.
Why do you get hung up on so much nothing to begin with?
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cos the op is a true isrealite ...and he hate whitey lmao
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Im white, dumbass.
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I agree JARD


Btw realufoman, I think your post was interesting but I don't quite see what your conclusion is regarding the OP?
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The reason as to why there are so many white jew's can be answered in many ways. The popularity of Abrahamic religions stems over all races and creeds. Asians, Africans, and Europeans flock to Judaism every year as other religions.

Essentially There is no difference between a Hamite and Semite by skin color

When Joseph was Visor in Egypt, his Hebrew brothers had no idea who he could be
 Quoting: TheRealUFOMan


Which could have been either because they were all dark or all fair, or we could conclude that if the Egyptian elites were fair then Joseph could pass off one of them because he was alike, or viceversa.

It's all quite theoretical, although I tend to believe all the founders of these ancient mesopotamic civilizations were refugees from Atlantis who were white and later on migrated north to Europe and founded European civilization.

This explains how suddenly in Sumeria a full fledged civilization appeared out of the blue 6000 kya and how all the civilizations that came after them followed the same patterns.

It makes quite a lot of sense doesn't it?
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Or maybe a ufo from planet Hebra crashed in the region 12,000 years ago .... and out of it came 2 astronauts - Adam & Eve ...
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
I mean aren't white people just some quite recent mutation that happened somewhere around north-eastern Europe? Discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


No neanderthal fossils have ever been found in Africa, and no modern african has any Neanderthal DNA.

European Cro magnon, which is the origin of RH negative blood, has nothing to do with Africa

In other words, the afrocentric out-of-africa theory is BS

Humanity is a hybrid species, blacks did not "turn into" asians or whites, sorry ;)


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I tend to agree with this view but I tried to go with the mainstream theory.

Regarding the point Middle Easterners are considered caucasian, yes they are, but they aren't "white" as in European white, except of course Jews who mostly can pass off for European without any problem.

Are we to suggest somehow ancient Hebrews and their Sumerian ancestors somehow came "down" from Europe and established in ancient Mesopotamia?
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during the last ice age, sea/ocean levels were 425 feet lower. After Atlantis "sunk" or the ice melted and covered it up, the survivors rebuilt civilization from turkey/armenia.. Mount Ararat (see Noah flood story).

so pre flood = Atlantis

Post Flood = Middle east

Middle eastertners are not caucasians with a suntan.. they are a hybrid of caucasian, asian, and african

closer to africa, more dark, closer to asia, more asian looking... most royalty and nobility will have more caucasian features (see India, caste system, etc)

You'll notice almost all roayalty has RH negative blood... remnants from antidevulian times
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Makes sense, and besides we have Gobekli Tepe to support that theory.

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