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Why are so many Jews white?

 
TheRealUFOMan

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I agree JARD


Btw realufoman, I think your post was interesting but I don't quite see what your conclusion is regarding the OP?
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The reason as to why there are so many white jew's can be answered in many ways. The popularity of Abrahamic religions stems over all races and creeds. Asians, Africans, and Europeans flock to Judaism every year as other religions.

Essentially There is no difference between a Hamite and Semite by skin color

When Joseph was Visor in Egypt, his Hebrew brothers had no idea who he could be
 Quoting: TheRealUFOMan


Which could have been either because they were all dark or all fair, or we could conclude that if the Egyptian elites were fair then Joseph could pass off one of them because he was alike, or viceversa.

It's all quite theoretical, although I tend to believe all the founders of these ancient mesopotamic civilizations were refugees from Atlantis who were white and later on migrated north to Europe and founded European civilization.

This explains how suddenly in Sumeria a full fledged civilization appeared out of the blue 6000 kya and how all the civilizations that came after them followed the same patterns.

It makes quite a lot of sense doesn't it?
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Also it is a response to another user saying Blacks/African represent the Hamitic bloodline, where as it doesn't help with skin color since it is apparently that Ham and Semites carry the same skin color, after reviewing the evidence its hard to deflect a possibility that there were indeed Black Israelites in every single tribe

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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
The 12 tribes were in fact 12 different ethnic groups.
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"Israelites"?

First off, Israel is the name that God gave Jacob who sired twelves sons who became the heads of twelve tribes, with two of those tribes being what is now known as Jews, Judah and Benjamin and from Levi come the priests for same. So all Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews, it is that simple. Abraham was progenitor of many peoples, including the Arab world.
Jews are not now nor never been black, but there are people who adopted and have a long Jewish heritage who are black.
Why do you get hung up on so much nothing to begin with?
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cos the op is a true isrealite ...and he hate whitey lmao
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Im white, dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


so you a wigger or something ...loosen up man , the zionists are the synogog of satan , the rest of the jews are to be brought back into isreal when jesus comes it says they will be picked up from all four corners , how ...by ufo the original ufos from the old testament are returning the real jews to the land , the bible says there is no jews in isreal cos the jews are not to be brought back till after he arrives ...not sure if there is any white jews , through the path of the original isrealites went through greece , italy , ireland and england ... so there could be isrealite blood , the black isrealites say there cant be but the father passes the line down so even if they are watered down to whites there could be jewish blood amonst whites ... ireland in hebrew is hebrnia meaning hebrews new land .... then the blacks and irish were turned into slaves , but the black isrealites dont want to know that either ....just there black side , fecking delueded
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"Israelites"?

First off, Israel is the name that God gave Jacob who sired twelves sons who became the heads of twelve tribes, with two of those tribes being what is now known as Jews, Judah and Benjamin and from Levi come the priests for same. So all Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews, it is that simple. Abraham was progenitor of many peoples, including the Arab world.
Jews are not now nor never been black, but there are people who adopted and have a long Jewish heritage who are black.
Why do you get hung up on so much nothing to begin with?
 Quoting: Mickeyblue 1280088


cos the op is a true isrealite ...and he hate whitey lmao
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Im white, dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


so you a wigger or something ...loosen up man , the zionists are the synogog of satan , the rest of the jews are to be brought back into isreal when jesus comes it says they will be picked up from all four corners , how ...by ufo the original ufos from the old testament are returning the real jews to the land , the bible says there is no jews in isreal cos the jews are not to be brought back till after he arrives ...not sure if there is any white jews , through the path of the original isrealites went through greece , italy , ireland and england ... so there could be isrealite blood , the black isrealites say there cant be but the father passes the line down so even if they are watered down to whites there could be jewish blood amonst whites ... ireland in hebrew is hebrnia meaning hebrews new land .... then the blacks and irish were turned into slaves , but the black isrealites dont want to know that either ....just there black side , fecking delueded
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Ive heard UFO's won't do it personally, but that would be so exclusive
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cos the op is a true isrealite ...and he hate whitey lmao
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Im white, dumbass.
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so you a wigger or something ...loosen up man , the zionists are the synogog of satan , the rest of the jews are to be brought back into isreal when jesus comes it says they will be picked up from all four corners , how ...by ufo the original ufos from the old testament are returning the real jews to the land , the bible says there is no jews in isreal cos the jews are not to be brought back till after he arrives ...not sure if there is any white jews , through the path of the original isrealites went through greece , italy , ireland and england ... so there could be isrealite blood , the black isrealites say there cant be but the father passes the line down so even if they are watered down to whites there could be jewish blood amonst whites ... ireland in hebrew is hebrnia meaning hebrews new land .... then the blacks and irish were turned into slaves , but the black isrealites dont want to know that either ....just there black side , fecking delueded
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Ive heard UFO's won't do it personally, but that would be so exclusive
 Quoting: TheRealUFOMan


it clearly says when the fires of heaven come down to destroy the 200 million man army and the earth , isreal will be shielded from the lightning , the fire and the storms ... its a pillar of fire by night and by days a silver cloud its axactly the same as the ufo in the old testament .... in the bible jesus is coming to destroy the wicked nations and the wicked , the believer are told to get out of the way ... if you are a jew you may be picked up , if not your dead .....but it does say gentiles can be saved to ... the getiles time is forfilled when jesus returns if you dont believe then , its to late .. and it will be ufos ..

why are the elite making all these alien film to get you to go against jesus ... the demons are coming first to claim they made us and sort humaity out , we get blagged and the mark of the beast is set up ... when jesus returns they gona say its an invation ... but he is here to destroy so it will be an invasion .. the elite are the devils
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I mean aren't white people just some quite recent mutation that happened somewhere around north-eastern Europe? Are we suppossed to believe the ancient Israelites were as white as the majority of Ashkenazim Jews are nowadays?
And if diaspora Jews claim to be whiter because having intermixed with European populations, how valuable is their claim of direct descendance from Abraham if their genes are so dilluted as to change their phenotype so much?

Jews stand out like a sore thumb among the brown masses in the Middle East, and they are often whiter than even southern Europeans, what's the deal with that?

Discuss.
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You do know middle eastern people are considered caucasion by the entire scientific community, right?
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WRONG!

"middle easterners" are considered "semitic", its a language group.

the Ashka-NAZI's are Baltic Caucasians.

thats where the "apple" originated...
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Im white, dumbass.
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so you a wigger or something ...loosen up man , the zionists are the synogog of satan , the rest of the jews are to be brought back into isreal when jesus comes it says they will be picked up from all four corners , how ...by ufo the original ufos from the old testament are returning the real jews to the land , the bible says there is no jews in isreal cos the jews are not to be brought back till after he arrives ...not sure if there is any white jews , through the path of the original isrealites went through greece , italy , ireland and england ... so there could be isrealite blood , the black isrealites say there cant be but the father passes the line down so even if they are watered down to whites there could be jewish blood amonst whites ... ireland in hebrew is hebrnia meaning hebrews new land .... then the blacks and irish were turned into slaves , but the black isrealites dont want to know that either ....just there black side , fecking delueded
 Quoting: godsaveme


Ive heard UFO's won't do it personally, but that would be so exclusive
 Quoting: TheRealUFOMan


it clearly says when the fires of heaven come down to destroy the 200 million man army and the earth , isreal will be shielded from the lightning , the fire and the storms ... its a pillar of fire by night and by days a silver cloud its axactly the same as the ufo in the old testament .... in the bible jesus is coming to destroy the wicked nations and the wicked , the believer are told to get out of the way ... if you are a jew you may be picked up , if not your dead .....but it does say gentiles can be saved to ... the getiles time is forfilled when jesus returns if you dont believe then , its to late .. and it will be ufos ..

why are the elite making all these alien film to get you to go against jesus ... the demons are coming first to claim they made us and sort humaity out , we get blagged and the mark of the beast is set up ... when jesus returns they gona say its an invation ... but he is here to destroy so it will be an invasion .. the elite are the devils
 Quoting: godsaveme


it clearly says when the fires of heaven come down to destroy the 200 million man army and the earth , isreal will be shielded from the lightning , the fire and the storms ... its a pillar of fire by night and by days a silver cloud its axactly the same as the ufo in the old testament

I believe UFO's are involved indefinitely, but the details event by event aren't exclusively known to anyone person the bible also has two endings.

Also, Christianity man be built on convert Judaism. But I won't debate every little detail now, yet indeed UFO's are the focus point of the ancient texts.
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Re: Why are so many Jews white?
Who cares? Since when is pigment relevant to religion?

What's with all the white muslims in eastern europe?
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Judaism might be a religion, but world Jewry isn't. What about all the secular Jews who reside in Israel? What do they claim gives them a right to live there? Religious myths, even when they claim not to be religious.

Isn't that a pretty fucked up contradiction?
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The United Nations and international law.
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Yes, and based on what? on the claim that Jews make to descend from Abraham and that God gave them that land in some covenant, which is all related to religion. Yet not all Jews are religious, so basically there's a contradiction there, can you see that?

The Torah is not history, it's religious mythology, the fact that the U.N and international law gave diaspora Jews a land already occupied based on a mythologic book defies all logic and reason.
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Bullshit. The UN did not recognize the Nation of Israel based on any religious claims.
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"Israelites"?

First off, Israel is the name that God gave Jacob who sired twelves sons who became the heads of twelve tribes, with two of those tribes being what is now known as Jews, Judah and Benjamin and from Levi come the priests for same. So all Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews, it is that simple. Abraham was progenitor of many peoples, including the Arab world.
Jews are not now nor never been black, but there are people who adopted and have a long Jewish heritage who are black.
Why do you get hung up on so much nothing to begin with?
 Quoting: Mickeyblue 1280088


cos the op is a true isrealite ...and he hate whitey lmao
 Quoting: godsaveme




Im white, dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


so you a wigger or something ...loosen up man , the zionists are the synogog of satan , the rest of the jews are to be brought back into isreal when jesus comes it says they will be picked up from all four corners , how ...by ufo the original ufos from the old testament are returning the real jews to the land , the bible says there is no jews in isreal cos the jews are not to be brought back till after he arrives ...not sure if there is any white jews , through the path of the original isrealites went through greece , italy , ireland and england ... so there could be isrealite blood , the black isrealites say there cant be but the father passes the line down so even if they are watered down to whites there could be jewish blood amonst whites ... ireland in hebrew is hebrnia meaning hebrews new land .... then the blacks and irish were turned into slaves , but the black isrealites dont want to know that either ....just there black side , fecking delueded
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Praise The Lamb:: Amen There is a connection here although I have not perceived a clear Idea on it yet !!
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Praise The Lamb:: Amen There is a connection here although I have not perceived a clear Idea on it yet !!
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Cain's seed was killed off in the flood, only Seth's survived
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Praise The Lamb:: Amen There is a connection here although I have not perceived a clear Idea on it yet !!
 Quoting: wing-ed


Cain's seed was killed off in the flood, only Seth's survived
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Somehow the giants came back after the flood ! Praise The Holy Of Holy :: 2Sa 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. Praise The Lamb:: Amen
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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No neanderthal fossils have ever been found in Africa, and no modern african has any Neanderthal DNA.

European Cro magnon, which is the origin of RH negative blood, has nothing to do with Africa

In other words, the afrocentric out-of-africa theory is BS

Humanity is a hybrid species, blacks did not "turn into" asians or whites, sorry ;)


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I tend to agree with this view but I tried to go with the mainstream theory.

Regarding the point Middle Easterners are considered caucasian, yes they are, but they aren't "white" as in European white, except of course Jews who mostly can pass off for European without any problem.

Are we to suggest somehow ancient Hebrews and their Sumerian ancestors somehow came "down" from Europe and established in ancient Mesopotamia?
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during the last ice age, sea/ocean levels were 425 feet lower. After Atlantis "sunk" or the ice melted and covered it up, the survivors rebuilt civilization from turkey/armenia.. Mount Ararat (see Noah flood story).

so pre flood = Atlantis

Post Flood = Middle east

Middle eastertners are not caucasians with a suntan.. they are a hybrid of caucasian, asian, and african

closer to africa, more dark, closer to asia, more asian looking... most royalty and nobility will have more caucasian features (see India, caste system, etc)

You'll notice almost all roayalty has RH negative blood... remnants from antidevulian times
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I agree JARD


Btw realufoman, I think your post was interesting but I don't quite see what your conclusion is regarding the OP?
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The reason as to why there are so many white jew's can be answered in many ways. The popularity of Abrahamic religions stems over all races and creeds. Asians, Africans, and Europeans flock to Judaism every year as other religions.

Essentially There is no difference between a Hamite and Semite by skin color

When Joseph was Visor in Egypt, his Hebrew brothers had no idea who he could be
 Quoting: TheRealUFOMan


Which could have been either because they were all dark or all fair, or we could conclude that if the Egyptian elites were fair then Joseph could pass off one of them because he was alike, or viceversa.

It's all quite theoretical, although I tend to believe all the founders of these ancient mesopotamic civilizations were refugees from Atlantis who were white and later on migrated north to Europe and founded European civilization.

This explains how suddenly in Sumeria a full fledged civilization appeared out of the blue 6000 kya and how all the civilizations that came after them followed the same patterns.

It makes quite a lot of sense doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


I don't think it matters what skin color you think anyone is, i tend to stay away from making that decision and exhibit the evidence.

What i can conclude is that National Geographic makes the claim that all humans began in Ethiopia/Nubia. This means the ancient texts were enlightening to human migrations when it asks the Israelites are you not like Ethiopians to me?

I believe it's time to stop looking a history with a bias and trying to label a skin tone on people we have never seen after thousands and migrations and conquering bands change the maps as we know them today.

Just 600 years ago Native Americans lived here, change is rapid. And to try to label a skin color on anyone we haven't seen is not political correct and an obvious attempt to dominate intellectual basis of history for what ever personal gains we might have like ego.

The only thing which matters to me is character, and it is shame that only one race of any religion is given attention, as this is the only way to human unification.
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People belief what they want to belief and the fact is that Ethiopians today have 50% white ancestry.
Refer to the following genetic studies.
[link to www.sciencedirect.com]
An extract:
"Both Ethiopians and Yemenis contain an almost-equal proportion of Eurasian-specific M and N and African-specific lineages and therefore cluster together in a multidimensional scaling plot between Near Eastern and sub-Saharan African populations."

These whites came from somewhere, as they certainly did not fall from the heavens.
When other genetic studies are taken into consideration, it is proven that these whites were Egyptians.

That the Egyptians were Caucasian has been proven by genetic studies.

Referring to the following genetic studies

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
An extract:
"Moreover, Libya and Egypt show the smallest genetic distances with the European populations,"
Think Ghadaffi.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
An extract:
Oman and Egypt's NRY frequency distributions appear to be much more similar to those of the Middle East than to any sub-Saharan African population, suggesting a much larger Eurasian genetic component.

The study below proves that the white gene flow entered the Ethiopian race via males. Think of the sex that are mostly soldiers? It's males. The different Pharaohs conquests and attacks on Ethiopia to get slaves, are well documented.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
An extract:
"Results from these markers led to the hypothesis that the Ethiopian population (1) experienced Caucasoid gene flow mainly through males,"
................

Afrocentrists are trying very hard to steal what don't belong to them and in the process they are well deserving of the scorn that they receive, for science has impartially shown them for what they are. Culture thieves and wishful thinkers.
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Praise The Lamb:: Amen There is a connection here although I have not perceived a clear Idea on it yet !!
 Quoting: wing-ed


Cain's seed was killed off in the flood, only Seth's survived
 Quoting: TheRealUFOMan


Somehow the giants came back after the flood ! Praise The Holy Of Holy :: 2Sa 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. Praise The Lamb:: Amen
 Quoting: wing-ed


The flood was local. The biblical Hebrew word 'erets' was used and although it means earth, as in the whole earth was under water, it also means land/country.

As in the land/country was under water.

Science has proven that a massive flood to place in the Tarim basin and it happened at the correct time.
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Praise The Lamb:: Amen There is a connection here although I have not perceived a clear Idea on it yet !!
 Quoting: wing-ed


Cain's seed was killed off in the flood, only Seth's survived
 Quoting: TheRealUFOMan


Somehow the giants came back after the flood ! Praise The Holy Of Holy :: 2Sa 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. Praise The Lamb:: Amen
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This is a separate issue from Cain, more likely a fraternal DNA presence, or continued abductions.
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The reason as to why there are so many white jew's can be answered in many ways. The popularity of Abrahamic religions stems over all races and creeds. Asians, Africans, and Europeans flock to Judaism every year as other religions.

Essentially There is no difference between a Hamite and Semite by skin color

When Joseph was Visor in Egypt, his Hebrew brothers had no idea who he could be
 Quoting: TheRealUFOMan


Which could have been either because they were all dark or all fair, or we could conclude that if the Egyptian elites were fair then Joseph could pass off one of them because he was alike, or viceversa.

It's all quite theoretical, although I tend to believe all the founders of these ancient mesopotamic civilizations were refugees from Atlantis who were white and later on migrated north to Europe and founded European civilization.

This explains how suddenly in Sumeria a full fledged civilization appeared out of the blue 6000 kya and how all the civilizations that came after them followed the same patterns.

It makes quite a lot of sense doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


I don't think it matters what skin color you think anyone is, i tend to stay away from making that decision and exhibit the evidence.

What i can conclude is that National Geographic makes the claim that all humans began in Ethiopia/Nubia. This means the ancient texts were enlightening to human migrations when it asks the Israelites are you not like Ethiopians to me?

I believe it's time to stop looking a history with a bias and trying to label a skin tone on people we have never seen after thousands and migrations and conquering bands change the maps as we know them today.

Just 600 years ago Native Americans lived here, change is rapid. And to try to label a skin color on anyone we haven't seen is not political correct and an obvious attempt to dominate intellectual basis of history for what ever personal gains we might have like ego.

The only thing which matters to me is character, and it is shame that only one race of any religion is given attention, as this is the only way to human unification.
 Quoting: TheRealUFOMan


People belief what they want to belief and the fact is that Ethiopians today have 50% white ancestry.
Refer to the following genetic studies.
[link to www.sciencedirect.com]
An extract:
"Both Ethiopians and Yemenis contain an almost-equal proportion of Eurasian-specific M and N and African-specific lineages and therefore cluster together in a multidimensional scaling plot between Near Eastern and sub-Saharan African populations."

These whites came from somewhere, as they certainly did not fall from the heavens.
When other genetic studies are taken into consideration, it is proven that these whites were Egyptians.

That the Egyptians were Caucasian has been proven by genetic studies.

Referring to the following genetic studies

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
An extract:
"Moreover, Libya and Egypt show the smallest genetic distances with the European populations,"
Think Ghadaffi.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
An extract:
Oman and Egypt's NRY frequency distributions appear to be much more similar to those of the Middle East than to any sub-Saharan African population, suggesting a much larger Eurasian genetic component.

The study below proves that the white gene flow entered the Ethiopian race via males. Think of the sex that are mostly soldiers? It's males. The different Pharaohs conquests and attacks on Ethiopia to get slaves, are well documented.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
An extract:
"Results from these markers led to the hypothesis that the Ethiopian population (1) experienced Caucasoid gene flow mainly through males,"
................

Afrocentrists are trying very hard to steal what don't belong to them and in the process they are well deserving of the scorn that they receive, for science has impartially shown them for what they are. Culture thieves and wishful thinkers.
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I'm not sure how paraphrases you link prove your point? We can see an obvious connection between Ethiopians and Arabs.

Along with the human migrations out of the Horn, we can see that indeed they begin in Ethiopian and span simutaneously to Sumer and Egypt.

But we also know that Arabs are indeed mentioned in the ancient biblical texts as a small band of raiders while Israel was near a exile from Jerusalem.

I dont understand what you say anyone is stealing, there are many black Egyptians even today, i don't think they are stealing anything.

Yet it is clear that the arabs you see today, were considered a small band of nomads by the time Israel was near its last days.


Though i consider DNA interesting, i'd like to know what you are trying to prove specifically in reference to the information you have given beyond the ideas that Euro and Nubian connection is clear though the existence of the Arab people?
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Praise The Lamb:: Amen There is a connection here although I have not perceived a clear Idea on it yet !!
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Cain's seed was killed off in the flood, only Seth's survived
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Somehow the giants came back after the flood ! Praise The Holy Of Holy :: 2Sa 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. Praise The Lamb:: Amen
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This is a separate issue from Cain, more likely a fraternal DNA presence, or continued abductions.
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I feel you and Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1280186 above your post both have merits to your views !! Very interesting !!
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Praise The Lamb:: Amen There is a connection here although I have not perceived a clear Idea on it yet !!
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Cain's seed was killed off in the flood, only Seth's survived
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Somehow the giants came back after the flood ! Praise The Holy Of Holy :: 2Sa 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. Praise The Lamb:: Amen
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The flood was local. The biblical Hebrew word 'erets' was used and although it means earth, as in the whole earth was under water, it also means land/country.

As in the land/country was under water.

Science has proven that a massive flood to place in the Tarim basin and it happened at the correct time.
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even if this was the case which the ancient texts don't fully imply, the return of nephilim was only local
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No neanderthal fossils have ever been found in Africa, and no modern african has any Neanderthal DNA.

European Cro magnon, which is the origin of RH negative blood, has nothing to do with Africa

In other words, the afrocentric out-of-africa theory is BS

Humanity is a hybrid species, blacks did not "turn into" asians or whites, sorry ;)


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I tend to agree with this view but I tried to go with the mainstream theory.

Regarding the point Middle Easterners are considered caucasian, yes they are, but they aren't "white" as in European white, except of course Jews who mostly can pass off for European without any problem.

Are we to suggest somehow ancient Hebrews and their Sumerian ancestors somehow came "down" from Europe and established in ancient Mesopotamia?
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during the last ice age, sea/ocean levels were 425 feet lower. After Atlantis "sunk" or the ice melted and covered it up, the survivors rebuilt civilization from turkey/armenia.. Mount Ararat (see Noah flood story).

so pre flood = Atlantis

Post Flood = Middle east

Middle eastertners are not caucasians with a suntan.. they are a hybrid of caucasian, asian, and african

closer to africa, more dark, closer to asia, more asian looking... most royalty and nobility will have more caucasian features (see India, caste system, etc)

You'll notice almost all roayalty has RH negative blood... remnants from antidevulian times
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Makes sense, and besides we have Gobekli Tepe to support that theory.
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This is true, I once came across a beautiful girls picture and I was like WOW, shes middle eastern, Turned out she was a American with white, black and asian in her parental background.

Middle eastertners are not caucasians with a suntan.. they are a hybrid of caucasian, asian, and african
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Cain's seed was killed off in the flood, only Seth's survived
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Somehow the giants came back after the flood ! Praise The Holy Of Holy :: 2Sa 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. Praise The Lamb:: Amen
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This is a separate issue from Cain, more likely a fraternal DNA presence, or continued abductions.
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I feel you and Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1280186 above your post both have merits to your views !! Very interesting !!
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thats maternal* excuse me
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Why do 5 million Jews in the U.S. feel like 500 million?
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Oh man, I lol'd so hard when I read that.
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I mean aren't white people just some quite recent mutation that happened somewhere around north-eastern Europe? Are we suppossed to believe the ancient Israelites were as white as the majority of Ashkenazim Jews are nowadays?
And if diaspora Jews claim to be whiter because having intermixed with European populations, how valuable is their claim of direct descendance from Abraham if their genes are so dilluted as to change their phenotype so much?

Jews stand out like a sore thumb among the brown masses in the Middle East, and they are often whiter than even southern Europeans, what's the deal with that?

Discuss.
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The Israelites were the Hyksos people of Egypt. There were mostly 3 groups worshipping 3 different Gods. 1) Goddess woshippers who worshipped Isis. 2) Ra worshippers and 3) worshippers of the God El. Moses united them into one group called the "Israelites" or those who worship Isis, Ra and El: Is-Ra-El. Many of them came from Europe. Their tribes describe their geographic/ethnic origin but the story of them being descended from Jacob is just pure mythology to unite them as a nation. All were genetically gifted, essentially an ant colony for an ET of some kind to experiment with genetically so the mythology of Jacob hides some scientific truth...i.e. Jacob's Ladder is a metaphor for DNA, so the myth tells us someone is/was trying to raise human beings up genetically through this nation, thus Israel were God's chosen..not Jews, but the Israelites as a whole. Indeed the Israelite tribes went on to found empires in Europe, the U.S. and even Japan. The Jews are the Judahites and Benjamites that were carted off to Babylon. While enslaved in Babylon they formed the modern assembly of Judaism so they are very unique and differentiated from the Israelites.
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I mean aren't white people just some quite recent mutation that happened somewhere around north-eastern Europe? Are we suppossed to believe the ancient Israelites were as white as the majority of Ashkenazim Jews are nowadays?
And if diaspora Jews claim to be whiter because having intermixed with European populations, how valuable is their claim of direct descendance from Abraham if their genes are so dilluted as to change their phenotype so much?

Jews stand out like a sore thumb among the brown masses in the Middle East, and they are often whiter than even southern Europeans, what's the deal with that?

Discuss.
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The Israelites were the Hyksos people of Egypt. There were mostly 3 groups worshipping 3 different Gods. 1) Goddess woshippers who worshipped Isis. 2) Ra worshippers and 3) worshippers of the God El. Moses united them into one group called the "Israelites" or those who worship Isis, Ra and El: Is-Ra-El. Many of them came from Europe. Their tribes describe their geographic/ethnic origin but the story of them being descended from Jacob is just pure mythology to unite them as a nation. All were genetically gifted, essentially an ant colony for an ET of some kind to experiment with genetically so the mythology of Jacob hides some scientific truth...i.e. Jacob's Ladder is a metaphor for DNA, so the myth tells us someone is/was trying to raise human beings up genetically through this nation, thus Israel were God's chosen..not Jews, but the Israelites as a whole. Indeed the Israelite tribes went on to found empires in Europe, the U.S. and even Japan. The Jews are the Judahites and Benjamites that were carted off to Babylon. While enslaved in Babylon they formed the modern assembly of Judaism so they are very unique and differentiated from the Israelites.
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This is why the Masonic Mysteries and Brother Russells Watchtower properly taught people the Egyptian heritage first,

But the other typical Christians today are so ignorant and dumb as to the origin of their beliefs they cry out that everything else paganism or satanic, They know so little. It drives me nuts.
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The Afroasiatic languages constitute a language family with about 375 living languages[2] and more than 350 million speakers spread throughout North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and Southwest Asia, as well as parts of the Sahel, and East Africa. The most widely spoken Afroasiatic language is Arabic, with 230 million speakers (all the colloquial varieties).[3] In addition to languages now spoken, Afroasiatic includes several ancient languages, such as Ancient Egyptian, Biblical Hebrew, and Akkadian.

The term "Afroasiatic" (often now spelled as Afro-Asiatic) was coined by Maurice Delafosse (1914). It did not come into general use until it was adopted by Joseph Greenberg (1950) to replace the earlier term "Hamito-Semitic"
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I mean aren't white people just some quite recent mutation that happened somewhere around north-eastern Europe? Are we suppossed to believe the ancient Israelites were as white as the majority of Ashkenazim Jews are nowadays?
And if diaspora Jews claim to be whiter because having intermixed with European populations, how valuable is their claim of direct descendance from Abraham if their genes are so dilluted as to change their phenotype so much?

Jews stand out like a sore thumb among the brown masses in the Middle East, and they are often whiter than even southern Europeans, what's the deal with that?

Discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1274739


The Israelites were the Hyksos people of Egypt. There were mostly 3 groups worshipping 3 different Gods. 1) Goddess woshippers who worshipped Isis. 2) Ra worshippers and 3) worshippers of the God El. Moses united them into one group called the "Israelites" or those who worship Isis, Ra and El: Is-Ra-El. Many of them came from Europe. Their tribes describe their geographic/ethnic origin but the story of them being descended from Jacob is just pure mythology to unite them as a nation. All were genetically gifted, essentially an ant colony for an ET of some kind to experiment with genetically so the mythology of Jacob hides some scientific truth...i.e. Jacob's Ladder is a metaphor for DNA, so the myth tells us someone is/was trying to raise human beings up genetically through this nation, thus Israel were God's chosen..not Jews, but the Israelites as a whole. Indeed the Israelite tribes went on to found empires in Europe, the U.S. and even Japan. The Jews are the Judahites and Benjamites that were carted off to Babylon. While enslaved in Babylon they formed the modern assembly of Judaism so they are very unique and differentiated from the Israelites.
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Seems to go against what their texts predict, not to found nations but to become absorbed by the nations.

Seems their unique DNA is a tracking tag also, allows to find who and where they are regardless of the mixing done with other nations.

We do know that paganism was a huge problem in ancient Israel, the main obvious observation is with the Tribe of Gad, whom his mother kept an idol of.
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Are those Libyan Jews too white for you?
(They have been in Libya for over 2500 years )



Many people in those photos are indistinguishable from eastern European Jews ...
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Because ashkenazi jews are not white...

...neither are they the Israelites of the Bible.



Learn the truth about who the Israelites are today, and the Bible and history will make sense to you like it never has before.
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black americans are not the real jews , they are hamites ...

they just like to steal history , white history it seams

as for white jews they are zionist , synogog of satan or something like that ...if they are not someone tell me

what is the jews who say they are jews but they are not they are a synogog of satan ...as said in the bible , i was told its the jewish lobby in america and the zionist
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didn't i already correct you about hamites being white and not black?

you are very stuborn and stiffnecked.
please get back to the lesson once again.
i shouldn't have to tell you again.

don't deceive your people like that.
they want the truth.

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Judaism might be a religion, but world Jewry isn't. What about all the secular Jews who reside in Israel? What do they claim gives them a right to live there? Religious myths, even when they claim not to be religious.

Isn't that a pretty fucked up contradiction?
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The United Nations and international law.
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Yes, and based on what? on the claim that Jews make to descend from Abraham and that God gave them that land in some covenant, which is all related to religion. Yet not all Jews are religious, so basically there's a contradiction there, can you see that?

The Torah is not history, it's religious mythology, the fact that the U.N and international law gave diaspora Jews a land already occupied based on a mythologic book defies all logic and reason.
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Bullshit. The UN did not recognize the Nation of Israel based on any religious claims.
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Jeez you people are dense aren't you?

Zionists wanted Palestine because they believed it was the land that belonged to their ancestors, and they believed that because the book says so. Get it?

If it wasn't for the Old Testament why would Jews consider Palestine theirs? Nobody really knows from any other source other than the OT who first inhabited that piece of land.

The very first Zionist claim to Palestine had religious roots, whether Zionist themselves were religious or not, and that's the bottom line.

In fact the very fact that Jews consider themselves Jews has religious roots, whether the Jew in question is religious or not. For Jews as Jews, Abraham had to exist, and to believe Abraham existed we must resort to the book again, get it?

Without religion there are no Jews, no Israel, no nothing! regardless of what reason the beaurocrats at the U.N had in mind when they gave the OK for Israel to exist.

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