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Wisconsin controversy - the difference between public employee unions and private industry labor unions

 
Vision Thing

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03/02/2011 04:25 AM

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Wisconsin controversy - the difference between public employee unions and private industry labor unions
Here is a quote from an article by Pat Buchanan (less than half of it) which I thought explained very well the distinction between public employee unions and private industry labor unions:

""Walker wants to end collective bargaining", is the wail.

Actually, what the governor wants to end is the scandalous practice of powerful unions raising millions and running phone banks and get-out-the-vote operations for politicians who thank them with wages, benefits and job security no private employer can match.

Since the 1960s, government unions have been able to sit behind closed doors with the politicians they put in office and write contracts, the cost of which is borne by taxpayers who have no one at the table.

They call this collective bargaining. A more accurate term is collusive bargaining. And Walker means put an end to the racket.

When Ford sits down with the UAW, Ford negotiators represent the executives, directors and shareholders. Should they give away the store and Ford have to raise prices, and be undercut by Honda, all Ford workers, shareholders and executives suffer.

This is a healthy adversary procedure where Ford and the UAW each represents the interests of those who sent them, and both share a stake in keeping Ford prosperous.

When government unions sit down with the politicians they put into office, the relationship is not adversarial. It is not healthy. It is incestuous. And taxpayers must pay the cost of their cohabitation."

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03/02/2011 04:36 AM
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Re: Wisconsin controversy - the difference between public employee unions and private industry labor unions
I agree totally, public employee unions must go, but private industry unions STILL protect workers rights, keeping salaries up, and safeguarding their rights in a proper workplace!
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03/02/2011 07:32 AM
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Re: Wisconsin controversy - the difference between public employee unions and private industry labor unions
i dont know what public employees are negotiating with politicians they put in office.

if this is more anti-school union shilling though, i can tell you we negotiate with the school board and superintendant. we dont go to town hall, close the doors with the mayor/senator/governor and wink wink nudge nudge over some brandy coke and hookers. we usually only get what we want with the communities support.

for as long as i have been involved, we usually get fucked around until the community steps in and tells the district to knock their shit off and give us whatever.

i must live in the twilight zone. everything you guys say seems to not apply in my area. also, from your title, are you trying to create a rift between public and private union members? turn them against each other?
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03/02/2011 07:38 AM
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Re: Wisconsin controversy - the difference between public employee unions and private industry labor unions
Since the 1960s, government unions have been able to sit behind closed doors with the politicians they put in office and write contracts
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Since the 1960s, government unions have been able to sit behind closed doors with the politicians they put in office and write contracts

Since the 1960s, government unions have been able to sit behind closed doors with the politicians they put in office and write contracts

Since the 1960s, government unions have been able to sit behind closed doors with the politicians they put in office and write contracts

Since the 1960s, government unions have been able to sit behind closed doors with the politicians they put in office and write contracts

Since the 1960s, government unions have been able to sit behind closed doors with the politicians they put in office and write contracts

Since the 1960s, government unions have been able to sit behind closed doors with the politicians they put in office and write contracts

Since the 1960s, government unions have been able to sit behind closed doors with the politicians they put in office and write contracts



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03/02/2011 07:41 AM
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Re: Wisconsin controversy - the difference between public employee unions and private industry labor unions
randi weingarten is on of the leaders or was one of the leaders of the teachers union.

are they really concerned about the kids or part of the radical communists that seek to destroy this country from aithin? are they dupes of tptb? personally i doubt it... at that level they have to know.

bottom line we have to purge the system of this cancer that seeks to steal middle class property. when you see union thugs attacking 'end the fed' guys you know who to support!!!


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03/02/2011 07:44 AM
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Re: Wisconsin controversy - the difference between public employee unions and private industry labor unions
Wow OP 5 Stars couldn't have said it better!
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03/02/2011 07:49 AM
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Re: Wisconsin controversy - the difference between public employee unions and private industry labor unions
"When school children start paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interests of school children". - Former American Federation of teachers President Albert Shanker
Vision Thing (OP)

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03/02/2011 11:55 AM

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Re: Wisconsin controversy - the difference between public employee unions and private industry labor unions
Hey thanks for the replies and the five star votes. Thought I should bump this because someone just posted a thread titled "Scott Walker is a fascist".

Seems like many years ago, Pat Buchanan was one of those names that made you cringe, like Watts who was Secretary of the Interior under Reagan? Now I read the things Pat Buchanan writes and it all makes perfect sense, for the most part anyway, and this article that I was quoting from certainly made tons of sense and wasn't an attack on legitimate unions at all.

It bugs me that some people don't make the distinction between public employee unions who have all their wages and benefits paid by the taxpayer, and private industry labor unions, which are entirely different in my book. Not beyond reproach either sometimes, but not in the same category, in my opinion.