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========PLANET X "HOAX" ????? >> EVERYONE READ

 
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The Discovery of Planet X

Planet X was discovered and photographed in modern times by JPL’s deep space

Infrared Electronic Telescope. The year was 1981. At that time the astronomers and

scientists working on the project were so elated with their discovery that they released

the news of its discovery to the public news media. The story of its discovery was

published in the New York Times and the Washington Post in 1981, then picked up by

other newspapers and carried all over the world. I have copies of both of the original

articles printed in those two major newspapers in my files right now. Any reader can

obtain copies for themselves by researching the subject on the Internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1031022

The guy doesn't even know the correct acronym for IRAS (NASA never had an "Infrared Electronic Telescope") let alone what it stands for, yet you expect us to believe he's right about what it discovered? He's not, by the way. IRAS initially found 9 point-like light sources that could not be traced to a visible light source at that time. The 1983 (not 1981, IRAS wasn't even launched till '83) article claims it "could" be a jupiter-like planet OR extra-galactic, they had no idea when it was first observed. IRAS did not find a planet though, it did find a number of infrared-luminous galaxies and intragalactic dust. If you claim that this discovery was actually a planet, which of these 9 initally-unidentified point-like sources was the planet?

0358+223 3h 58m 2.8s 22d 18’ 0”
0404+101 4h 4m 44.7s 10d 11’ 52”
0412+085 4h 12m 32.3s 8d 31’ 13”
0413+122 4h 13m 47.3s 12d 17’ 16”
0422+009 4h 22m 54.0s 0d 56’ 6”
0425-012 4h 25m 12.1s -1d 14’ 50”
1703+049 17h 3m 1.4s 4d 57’ 50”
1712+100 17h 12m 57.8s 10d 4’ 8”
1732_239 17h 32m 51.4s 23d 56’ 36”

If you want to know what they actually found, here are the follow-up papers that further researched these point-like sources:

Unidentified point sources in the IRAS minisurvey, Houck et al. Astrophysical Journal, vol. 278, March 1, 1984, p. L63-L66

Unidentified IRAS sources - Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies, Houck et al., Astrophysical Journal, vol. 290, March 1, 1985, p. L5-L8.

Optical counterparts of unidentified IRAS point sources Infrared luminous galaxies, Aaronson and Olszewski, Nature, vol. 309, May 31, 1984, p. 414-417.

This pastor is so completely and totally wrong it's embarrassing to even read it.
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Governments lie ... he may be wrong ...but governments lie
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I think when the elites go underground, the rest of us should get some heavey equipment and make sure they they stay there. I'm close enough to DIA to help make sure that happens. All I need is access to a big dozer. No air vents, no doors, no lying sack of shit elites. It will make a great archaeologic find in a few thousand years.
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what makes you think they need air vents ?
 Quoting: Humanibean


The shelter at DIA certainly has air vents, and there are going to need air or it's just a mass grave. The vents at DIA are very large and easy to see on Google earth. But even if we can't find the source of air, they has to come out at some poit. That will be "mission impossible" with a few thousand tons of dirt and debry in the doorway.
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Even if they make it out of their bunkers are they expecting to be welcomed with open arms by survivors? I think not.
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The Discovery of Planet X

Planet X was discovered and photographed in modern times by JPL’s deep space

Infrared Electronic Telescope. The year was 1981. At that time the astronomers and

scientists working on the project were so elated with their discovery that they released

the news of its discovery to the public news media. The story of its discovery was

published in the New York Times and the Washington Post in 1981, then picked up by

other newspapers and carried all over the world. I have copies of both of the original

articles printed in those two major newspapers in my files right now. Any reader can

obtain copies for themselves by researching the subject on the Internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1031022

The guy doesn't even know the correct acronym for IRAS (NASA never had an "Infrared Electronic Telescope") let alone what it stands for, yet you expect us to believe he's right about what it discovered? He's not, by the way. IRAS initially found 9 point-like light sources that could not be traced to a visible light source at that time. The 1983 (not 1981, IRAS wasn't even launched till '83) article claims it "could" be a jupiter-like planet OR extra-galactic, they had no idea when it was first observed. IRAS did not find a planet though, it did find a number of infrared-luminous galaxies and intragalactic dust. If you claim that this discovery was actually a planet, which of these 9 initally-unidentified point-like sources was the planet?

0358+223 3h 58m 2.8s 22d 18’ 0”
0404+101 4h 4m 44.7s 10d 11’ 52”
0412+085 4h 12m 32.3s 8d 31’ 13”
0413+122 4h 13m 47.3s 12d 17’ 16”
0422+009 4h 22m 54.0s 0d 56’ 6”
0425-012 4h 25m 12.1s -1d 14’ 50”
1703+049 17h 3m 1.4s 4d 57’ 50”
1712+100 17h 12m 57.8s 10d 4’ 8”
1732_239 17h 32m 51.4s 23d 56’ 36”

If you want to know what they actually found, here are the follow-up papers that further researched these point-like sources:

Unidentified point sources in the IRAS minisurvey, Houck et al. Astrophysical Journal, vol. 278, March 1, 1984, p. L63-L66

Unidentified IRAS sources - Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies, Houck et al., Astrophysical Journal, vol. 290, March 1, 1985, p. L5-L8.

Optical counterparts of unidentified IRAS point sources Infrared luminous galaxies, Aaronson and Olszewski, Nature, vol. 309, May 31, 1984, p. 414-417.

This pastor is so completely and totally wrong it's embarrassing to even read it.
 Quoting: Astronut


Governments lie ... he may be wrong ...but governments lie
 Quoting: TorontonianGuy


Then which of those 9 point-like light sources was planet x? Oh wait, you're just handwaving, never mind.

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Wiki says IRAS was launched in Jan 1983. So where did the 1981 date come from? Nothing cited before 1984. Unless there was an older model telescope being used in 81 the article is a hoax.
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


Exactly. Googling the term in quotes "Infrared Electronic Telescope" only returns F.M. Riley related postings on the internet. He has no idea what he's talking about, JPL never had a telescope by that name.
 Quoting: Astronut


That you know about ....
 Quoting: TorontonianGuy


So you're saying that Mr. Riley knew about a "secret infrared telescope" that he knows was launched by JPL, he even knows what the name was, and it secretly "discovered planet x" which was then publicly published in multiple major papers despite coming from a completely secret and unknown satellite that for some reason no amateur satellite hunter could detect. Do you think your posts through before you post them or do you just let it fly? Show me proof Riley's proof that JPL was operating an infrared telescope called the "Infrared Electronic Telescope" in 1981. It doesn't exist, he's pulling crap out of his rear.
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No, like my other post ... governments lie ... you do realize this I hope ???

He may have been privy to info from a person that attended one of these 'secret' meetings .... he may be full of shit BUT governments lie (FACT).
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The elite will be sealed in their underground tombs.

The meek (survivors) of The Great Destroyer shall inherit the Earth.
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hf
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YAY!
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OP you say Nibiru will be visible by binoculars in April and appearing in the night sky as a "second moon" visible to the naked eye. Where do you get your information from?
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. . . now iam sure the Google search is flooded with information. The Internet will or already has gone crazy getting information out to you all. This is going to be a few fun months. MAN OH MAN AM I EVER GLAD I AM SAVED !!!!!!!!!Thank you Jesus, sweet Jesus.
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+1 So this happened 3600 years ago huh? Funny how the Egyptians wrote nothing of the matter. If planet X was going to be here by 2012 it would be in the asteroid belt right now and we could see it at night. Move out of your mothers basement and get a job.
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Familiarize yourself with the Kolbrin Bible writings then... quite a clear Egyptian description of the last passing
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Really? Translate sonny, they wrote nothing of it. The only people that did were supposofly the Sumerians, and it was all bullshit written by that fraud Stitchin.
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Wiki says IRAS was launched in Jan 1983. So where did the 1981 date come from? Nothing cited before 1984. Unless there was an older model telescope being used in 81 the article is a hoax.
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


Exactly. Googling the term in quotes "Infrared Electronic Telescope" only returns F.M. Riley related postings on the internet. He has no idea what he's talking about, JPL never had a telescope by that name.
 Quoting: Astronut


That you know about ....
 Quoting: TorontonianGuy


So you're saying that Mr. Riley knew about a "secret infrared telescope" that he knows was launched by JPL, he even knows what the name was, and it secretly "discovered planet x" which was then publicly published in multiple major papers despite coming from a completely secret and unknown satellite that for some reason no amateur satellite hunter could detect. Do you think your posts through before you post them or do you just let it fly? Show me proof Riley's proof that JPL was operating an infrared telescope called the "Infrared Electronic Telescope" in 1981. It doesn't exist, he's pulling crap out of his rear.
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You know and I know He was talking about IRA in 1983. Explain that.
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IRAS

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It took me 20 min. to read this.
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I thought it was great. Thank you. It's amazing people's lack of attention span these days
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Sires, and Ladies, I believe thouest hath thine facts wrong.
God is a SHE , not a HE.
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God IS. Gender is irrelevant. You can worhip a tree, a stone, or a statue & call it god if you wish - imho, its a matter of perception.
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You know and I know He was talking about IRA in 1983. Explain that.
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He wasn't accurate about that, what makes him any more accurate about anything else?
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You know and I know He was talking about IRA in 1983. Explain that.
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I already explained what IRAS found. In 1983. You're saying he got both the name of the satellite and the year it operated completely wrong, but we're supposed to trust that he's at all credible about what it found? Sorry, not buying it. Either prove that JPL operated a telescope named the "Infrared Electronic Telescope" in 1981 or this guy has no credibility at all.
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Amen!!!
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Amen Ra
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Not BS! dumbass

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Makes you wonder if Comet Elenin will be used to explain away Planet X.
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THIS I BELIEVE IS EXACTLY WHAT Comet Elenin IS BEING USED FOR !!
 Quoting: TorontonianGuy


. . . i thought Elenin was "Planet X" with a name. Another name for it is Wormwood. Brown Elf whatever is another. It has a lot of nic-names . . . However a rose by any other name is still a rose.
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I think when the elites go underground, the rest of us should get some heavey equipment and make sure they they stay there. I'm close enough to DIA to help make sure that happens. All I need is access to a big dozer. No air vents, no doors, no lying sack of shit elites. It will make a great archaeologic find in a few thousand years.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


what makes you think they need air vents ?
 Quoting: Humanibean


The shelter at DIA certainly has air vents, and there are going to need air or it's just a mass grave. The vents at DIA are very large and easy to see on Google earth. But even if we can't find the source of air, they has to come out at some poit. That will be "mission impossible" with a few thousand tons of dirt and debry in the doorway.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Even if they make it out of their bunkers are they expecting to be welcomed with open arms by survivors? I think not.
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That's why they are training/preparing with movies and video games about zombies which seems to be really popular these days......cause you see the ZOMBIES ARE US.
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Planet X pushed me down, stole my lunch money and rubbed sand in my ass crack!
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Laughed my ass off over this one!!

But seriously folks, there is no doomsday scenario on the horizon!
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I think you'll find that we debunkers are not even saying that. It's just that it is not going to come in the form of an imaginary planet.
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Exactly. Googling the term in quotes "Infrared Electronic Telescope" only returns F.M. Riley related postings on the internet. He has no idea what he's talking about, JPL never had a telescope by that name.
 Quoting: Astronut


That you know about ....
 Quoting: TorontonianGuy


So you're saying that Mr. Riley knew about a "secret infrared telescope" that he knows was launched by JPL, he even knows what the name was, and it secretly "discovered planet x" which was then publicly published in multiple major papers despite coming from a completely secret and unknown satellite that for some reason no amateur satellite hunter could detect. Do you think your posts through before you post them or do you just let it fly? Show me proof Riley's proof that JPL was operating an infrared telescope called the "Infrared Electronic Telescope" in 1981. It doesn't exist, he's pulling crap out of his rear.
 Quoting: Astronut


No, like my other post ... governments lie ... you do realize this I hope ???

He may have been privy to info from a person that attended one of these 'secret' meetings .... he may be full of shit BUT governments lie (FACT).
 Quoting: TorontonianGuy


So you're saying that Mr. Riley knew about a "secret infrared telescope" that he knows was launched by JPL, he even knows what the name was, and it secretly "discovered planet x" which was then publicly published in multiple major papers despite coming from a completely secret and unknown satellite that for some reason no amateur satellite hunter could detect, but it's all good because "governments lie." That's called handwaving.

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I think when the elites go underground, the rest of us should get some heavey equipment and make sure they they stay there. I'm close enough to DIA to help make sure that happens. All I need is access to a big dozer. No air vents, no doors, no lying sack of shit elites. It will make a great archaeologic find in a few thousand years.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


what makes you think they need air vents ?
 Quoting: Humanibean


The shelter at DIA certainly has air vents, and there are going to need air or it's just a mass grave. The vents at DIA are very large and easy to see on Google earth. But even if we can't find the source of air, they has to come out at some poit. That will be "mission impossible" with a few thousand tons of dirt and debry in the doorway.
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Even if they make it out of their bunkers are they expecting to be welcomed with open arms by survivors? I think not.
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Pitchforks and torches await!
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Okay...maybe. Give me something factual to go with the rest. I am near Indianapolis...give me a underground bunker location. I wanna see if it exists. Publish the whole list, so we can raid their supplies, when the end is near. After all, we paid for all that crap. Just sayin
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Shills are still on the payroll I see...
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All the Jesus BS overflowing from this gives away the fact that it's all garbage
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this ^

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If he knows all he gives us the illusion of choice, for he created the Hellbound knowing what they would choose.
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god can see ahead, but who says he always looks?
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By the way...can anyone that works here tell me why I am no longer allowed to log in, and why my user name doesn`t exist anymore. Surely you don`t feel threatened by me?????yoda
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You know and I know He was talking about IRA in 1983. Explain that.
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I already explained what IRAS found. In 1983. You're saying he got both the name of the satellite and the year it operated completely wrong, but we're supposed to trust that he's at all credible about what it found? Sorry, not buying it. Either prove that JPL operated a telescope named the "Infrared Electronic Telescope" in 1981 or this guy has no credibility at all.
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shill
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i didn't get past "scripture says".
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The Discovery of Planet X

Planet X was discovered and photographed in modern times by JPL’s deep space

Infrared Electronic Telescope. The year was 1981. At that time the astronomers and

scientists working on the project were so elated with their discovery that they released

the news of its discovery to the public news media. The story of its discovery was

published in the New York Times and the Washington Post in 1981, then picked up by

other newspapers and carried all over the world. I have copies of both of the original

articles printed in those two major newspapers in my files right now. Any reader can

obtain copies for themselves by researching the subject on the Internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1031022

The guy doesn't even know the correct acronym for IRAS (NASA never had an "Infrared Electronic Telescope") let alone what it stands for, yet you expect us to believe he's right about what it discovered? He's not, by the way. IRAS initially found 9 point-like light sources that could not be traced to a visible light source at that time. The 1983 (not 1981, IRAS wasn't even launched till '83) article claims it "could" be a jupiter-like planet OR extra-galactic, they had no idea when it was first observed. IRAS did not find a planet though, it did find a number of infrared-luminous galaxies and intragalactic dust. If you claim that this discovery was actually a planet, which of these 9 initally-unidentified point-like sources was the planet?

0358+223 3h 58m 2.8s 22d 18’ 0”
0404+101 4h 4m 44.7s 10d 11’ 52”
0412+085 4h 12m 32.3s 8d 31’ 13”
0413+122 4h 13m 47.3s 12d 17’ 16”
0422+009 4h 22m 54.0s 0d 56’ 6”
0425-012 4h 25m 12.1s -1d 14’ 50”
1703+049 17h 3m 1.4s 4d 57’ 50”
1712+100 17h 12m 57.8s 10d 4’ 8”
1732_239 17h 32m 51.4s 23d 56’ 36”

If you want to know what they actually found, here are the follow-up papers that further researched these point-like sources:

Unidentified point sources in the IRAS minisurvey, Houck et al. Astrophysical Journal, vol. 278, March 1, 1984, p. L63-L66

Unidentified IRAS sources - Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies, Houck et al., Astrophysical Journal, vol. 290, March 1, 1985, p. L5-L8.

Optical counterparts of unidentified IRAS point sources Infrared luminous galaxies, Aaronson and Olszewski, Nature, vol. 309, May 31, 1984, p. 414-417.

This pastor is so completely and totally wrong it's embarrassing to even read it.
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Governments lie ... he may be wrong ...but governments lie
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ASTRO YOU ARE HILARIOUS
IS IT POSSIBLE YOU MAY NOT KNOW
EVERYTHING YOU THINK ABOUT THIS.
YOUR CLING TO THE WORD INTELLIGENT
SO DEARLY. RELAX TIME WILL TELL.
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religitard Foolishness, following a book that has been compromised countless times. They keep rehashing Jesus over and over. There are so many forms of christendom , who knows what is true? I tend to think it is all bunk.

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