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Well, we all have a right to free-speech in this country -- KKK, anti-abortion, and anti-gay nuts included.


1st Amendment protects military funeral protesters

By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Mark Sherman, Associated Press

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that the First Amendment protects fundamentalist church members who mount anti-gay protests outside military funerals, despite the pain they cause grieving families.

The court voted 8-1 in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan. The decision upheld an appeals court ruling that threw out a $5 million judgment to the father of a dead Marine who sued church members after they picketed his son's funeral.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the opinion for the court. Justice Samuel Alito dissented.

Roberts said free speech rights in the First Amendment shield the funeral protesters, noting that they obeyed police directions and were 1,000 feet from the church.

"Speech is powerful. It can stir people to action, move them to tears of both joy and sorrow, and — as it did here — inflict great pain. On the facts before us, we cannot react to that pain by punishing the speaker," Roberts said. "As a nation we have chosen a different course — to protect even hurtful speech on public issues to ensure that we do not stifle public debate."

Alito strongly disagreed. "Our profound national commitment to free and open debate is not a license for the vicious verbal assault that occurred in this case," he said.

Matthew Snyder died in Iraq in 2006 and his body was returned to the United States for burial. Members of the Westboro Baptist Church, who have picketed military funerals for several years, decided to protest outside the Westminster, Md., church where his funeral was to be held.

The Rev. Fred Phelps and his family members who make up most of the Westboro Baptist Church have picketed many military funerals in their quest to draw attention to their incendiary view that U.S. deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq are God's punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

They showed up with their usual signs, including "Thank God for dead soldiers," "You're Going to Hell," "God Hates the USA/Thank God for 9/11," and one that combined the U.S. Marine Corps motto, Semper Fi, with a slur against gay men.

The church members drew counter-demonstrators, as well as media coverage and a heavy police presence to maintain order. The result was a spectacle that led to altering the route of the funeral procession.

Several weeks later, Albert Snyder was surfing the Internet for tributes to his son from other soldiers and strangers when he came upon a poem on the church's website that attacked Matthew's parents for the way they brought up their son.

Soon after, Snyder filed a lawsuit accusing the Phelpses of intentionally inflicting emotional distress. He won $11 million at trial, later reduced by a judge to $5 million.

The federal appeals court in Richmond, Va., threw out the verdict and said the Constitution shielded the church members from liability.

Forty-eight states, 42 U.S. senators and veterans groups sided with Snyder, asking the court to shield funerals from the Phelps family's "psychological terrorism."

While distancing themselves from the church's message, media organizations, including The Associated Press, urged the court to side with the Phelps family because of concerns that a victory for Snyder could erode speech rights.

Roberts described the court's holding as narrow, and in a separate opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer suggested in other circumstances, governments would not be "powerless to provide private individuals with necessary protection."

But in this case, Breyer said, it would be wrong to "punish Westboro for seeking to communicate its views on matters of public concern."

Margie Phelps, a daughter of the minister and a lawyer who argued the case at the Supreme Court, said she expected the outcome. "The only surprise is that Justice Alito did not feel compelled to follow his oath," Phelps said. "We read the law. We follow the law. The only way for a different ruling is to shred the First Amendment."

She also offered her church's view of the decision. "I think it's pretty self-explanatory, but here's the core point: The wrath of God is pouring onto this land. Rather than trying to shut us up, use your platforms to tell this nation to mourn for your sins."
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the westboro freaks can rot in hell.
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They need thrown a good beatin
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As much as it pains me to say, thats a good ruling.

I dont like them one bit, butt if they are US Citizens, they have a right to believe what they want and to espouse that on street corners.

You cant legislate morality and civility. Unfortunately, to be a truly free country, you have to afford rights to even those you do not magree with. Much like socialist and liberals, that church has a right to exist and protest.
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The Rev. Fred Phelps and his family members who make up most of the Westboro Baptist Church have picketed many military funerals in their quest to draw attention to their incendiary view that U.S. deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq are God's punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

They showed up with their usual signs, including "Thank God for dead soldiers," "You're Going to Hell," "God Hates the USA/Thank God for 9/11," and one that combined the U.S. Marine Corps motto, Semper Fi, with a slur against gay men.

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Several weeks later, Albert Snyder was surfing the Internet for tributes to his son from other soldiers and strangers when he came upon a poem on the church's website that attacked Matthew's parents for the way they brought up their son.

...

Margie Phelps, a daughter of the minister and a lawyer who argued the case at the Supreme Court, said she expected the outcome. "The only surprise is that Justice Alito did not feel compelled to follow his oath," Phelps said. "We read the law. We follow the law. The only way for a different ruling is to shred the First Amendment."

She also offered her church's view of the decision. "I think it's pretty self-explanatory, but here's the core point: The wrath of God is pouring onto this land. Rather than trying to shut us up, use your platforms to tell this nation to mourn for your sins."
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Lovely folks!
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They ARE NOT Christian. Never have been, never will be.
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As much as it pains me to say, thats a good ruling.

I dont like them one bit, butt if they are US Citizens, they have a right to believe what they want and to espouse that on street corners.

You cant legislate morality and civility. Unfortunately, to be a truly free country, you have to afford rights to even those you do not magree with. Much like socialist and liberals, that church has a right to exist and protest.
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Yup. Too bad the Constitution has been raped and pillaged so badly. Every victory of it should be celebrated.
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Anonymous owned them, we'll own them again.
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They ARE NOT Christian. Never have been, never will be.
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Really, it sounds like they're following the words of the book better than most Christians. Except by all rights, they should be out stoning homosexuals, not protesting. Not saying it's right, just saying, that's what the book demands. Christianity is not the happy go lucky watered down bullshit most people practice today.
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How do they know these soldiers are gay?
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How do they know these soldiers are gay?
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I'd assume someone asked, then someone told.
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Well, we all have a right to free-speech in this country -- KKK, anti-abortion, and anti-gay nuts included.


1st Amendment protects military funeral protesters

By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Mark Sherman, Associated Press

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that the First Amendment protects fundamentalist church members who mount anti-gay protests outside military funerals, despite the pain they cause grieving families.

The court voted 8-1 in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan. The decision upheld an appeals court ruling that threw out a $5 million judgment to the father of a dead Marine who sued church members after they picketed his son's funeral.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the opinion for the court. Justice Samuel Alito dissented.

Roberts said free speech rights in the First Amendment shield the funeral protesters, noting that they obeyed police directions and were 1,000 feet from the church.

"Speech is powerful. It can stir people to action, move them to tears of both joy and sorrow, and — as it did here — inflict great pain. On the facts before us, we cannot react to that pain by punishing the speaker," Roberts said. "As a nation we have chosen a different course — to protect even hurtful speech on public issues to ensure that we do not stifle public debate."

Alito strongly disagreed. "Our profound national commitment to free and open debate is not a license for the vicious verbal assault that occurred in this case," he said.

Matthew Snyder died in Iraq in 2006 and his body was returned to the United States for burial. Members of the Westboro Baptist Church, who have picketed military funerals for several years, decided to protest outside the Westminster, Md., church where his funeral was to be held.

The Rev. Fred Phelps and his family members who make up most of the Westboro Baptist Church have picketed many military funerals in their quest to draw attention to their incendiary view that U.S. deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq are God's punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

They showed up with their usual signs, including "Thank God for dead soldiers," "You're Going to Hell," "God Hates the USA/Thank God for 9/11," and one that combined the U.S. Marine Corps motto, Semper Fi, with a slur against gay men.

The church members drew counter-demonstrators, as well as media coverage and a heavy police presence to maintain order. The result was a spectacle that led to altering the route of the funeral procession.

Several weeks later, Albert Snyder was surfing the Internet for tributes to his son from other soldiers and strangers when he came upon a poem on the church's website that attacked Matthew's parents for the way they brought up their son.

Soon after, Snyder filed a lawsuit accusing the Phelpses of intentionally inflicting emotional distress. He won $11 million at trial, later reduced by a judge to $5 million.

The federal appeals court in Richmond, Va., threw out the verdict and said the Constitution shielded the church members from liability.

Forty-eight states, 42 U.S. senators and veterans groups sided with Snyder, asking the court to shield funerals from the Phelps family's "psychological terrorism."

While distancing themselves from the church's message, media organizations, including The Associated Press, urged the court to side with the Phelps family because of concerns that a victory for Snyder could erode speech rights.

Roberts described the court's holding as narrow, and in a separate opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer suggested in other circumstances, governments would not be "powerless to provide private individuals with necessary protection."

But in this case, Breyer said, it would be wrong to "punish Westboro for seeking to communicate its views on matters of public concern."

Margie Phelps, a daughter of the minister and a lawyer who argued the case at the Supreme Court, said she expected the outcome. "The only surprise is that Justice Alito did not feel compelled to follow his oath," Phelps said. "We read the law. We follow the law. The only way for a different ruling is to shred the First Amendment."

She also offered her church's view of the decision. "I think it's pretty self-explanatory, but here's the core point: The wrath of God is pouring onto this land. Rather than trying to shut us up, use your platforms to tell this nation to mourn for your sins."
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WHy is it when they call a gay a faggot, it's free speech, when someone else does it's hate speech? I'm lost... really really Lost....
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Well, we all have a right to free-speech in this country -- KKK, anti-abortion, and anti-gay nuts included.


1st Amendment protects military funeral protesters

By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Mark Sherman, Associated Press

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that the First Amendment protects fundamentalist church members who mount anti-gay protests outside military funerals, despite the pain they cause grieving families.

The court voted 8-1 in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan. The decision upheld an appeals court ruling that threw out a $5 million judgment to the father of a dead Marine who sued church members after they picketed his son's funeral.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the opinion for the court. Justice Samuel Alito dissented.

Roberts said free speech rights in the First Amendment shield the funeral protesters, noting that they obeyed police directions and were 1,000 feet from the church.

"Speech is powerful. It can stir people to action, move them to tears of both joy and sorrow, and — as it did here — inflict great pain. On the facts before us, we cannot react to that pain by punishing the speaker," Roberts said. "As a nation we have chosen a different course — to protect even hurtful speech on public issues to ensure that we do not stifle public debate."

Alito strongly disagreed. "Our profound national commitment to free and open debate is not a license for the vicious verbal assault that occurred in this case," he said.

Matthew Snyder died in Iraq in 2006 and his body was returned to the United States for burial. Members of the Westboro Baptist Church, who have picketed military funerals for several years, decided to protest outside the Westminster, Md., church where his funeral was to be held.

The Rev. Fred Phelps and his family members who make up most of the Westboro Baptist Church have picketed many military funerals in their quest to draw attention to their incendiary view that U.S. deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq are God's punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

They showed up with their usual signs, including "Thank God for dead soldiers," "You're Going to Hell," "God Hates the USA/Thank God for 9/11," and one that combined the U.S. Marine Corps motto, Semper Fi, with a slur against gay men.

The church members drew counter-demonstrators, as well as media coverage and a heavy police presence to maintain order. The result was a spectacle that led to altering the route of the funeral procession.

Several weeks later, Albert Snyder was surfing the Internet for tributes to his son from other soldiers and strangers when he came upon a poem on the church's website that attacked Matthew's parents for the way they brought up their son.

Soon after, Snyder filed a lawsuit accusing the Phelpses of intentionally inflicting emotional distress. He won $11 million at trial, later reduced by a judge to $5 million.

The federal appeals court in Richmond, Va., threw out the verdict and said the Constitution shielded the church members from liability.

Forty-eight states, 42 U.S. senators and veterans groups sided with Snyder, asking the court to shield funerals from the Phelps family's "psychological terrorism."

While distancing themselves from the church's message, media organizations, including The Associated Press, urged the court to side with the Phelps family because of concerns that a victory for Snyder could erode speech rights.

Roberts described the court's holding as narrow, and in a separate opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer suggested in other circumstances, governments would not be "powerless to provide private individuals with necessary protection."

But in this case, Breyer said, it would be wrong to "punish Westboro for seeking to communicate its views on matters of public concern."

Margie Phelps, a daughter of the minister and a lawyer who argued the case at the Supreme Court, said she expected the outcome. "The only surprise is that Justice Alito did not feel compelled to follow his oath," Phelps said. "We read the law. We follow the law. The only way for a different ruling is to shred the First Amendment."

She also offered her church's view of the decision. "I think it's pretty self-explanatory, but here's the core point: The wrath of God is pouring onto this land. Rather than trying to shut us up, use your platforms to tell this nation to mourn for your sins."
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WHy is it when they call a gay a faggot, it's free speech, when someone else does it's hate speech? I'm lost... really really Lost....
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...its bad when an 8yr old is standing at a funeral listening to the words F*ggot, N*gger, C*acker, W*tback...ect

...when I can't even walk down the street after drinking, then being picked up for public intoxication.
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The infamous Letter to Dr. Laura Schlessinger, highlighting the problems with literal interpretation of the bible:

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Dear Dr.Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them.

1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with any woman while she is in her period of menstrual cleanliness (Lev.15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
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Freedom os speech does not guarantee an audience! People assembled for a funeral should not be forced to provide that audience.
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How do they know these soldiers are gay?
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Westboro does not say the soldiers are gay. Rather, Westboro is saying that God allowed the soldiers to be killed because homosexuals are tolerated in the US.
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Freedom os speech does not guarantee an audience! People assembled for a funeral should not be forced to provide that audience.
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It's technically considered harassment, though apparently the courts are getting many lulz from Westboro, plus they probably want to use them to draw out Anonymous.
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How do they know these soldiers are gay?
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Westboro does not say the soldiers are gay. Rather, Westboro is saying that God allowed the soldiers to be killed because homosexuals are tolerated in the US.
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Hey, do muzzie's stone their fags? Just curious.
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How do they know these soldiers are gay?
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Westboro does not say the soldiers are gay. Rather, Westboro is saying that God allowed the soldiers to be killed because homosexuals are tolerated in the US.
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Hey, do muzzie's stone their fags? Just curious.
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The more fundamentalist Islamic nations do.
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Freedom os speech does not guarantee an audience! People assembled for a funeral should not be forced to provide that audience.
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It's technically considered harassment, though apparently the courts are getting many lulz from Westboro, plus they probably want to use them to draw out Anonymous.
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"Anonymous" - What are you referring to here, Bugsy?
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How do they know these soldiers are gay?
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Westboro does not say the soldiers are gay. Rather, Westboro is saying that God allowed the soldiers to be killed because homosexuals are tolerated in the US.
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Hey, do muzzie's stone their fags? Just curious.
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The more fundamentalist Islamic nations do.
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So, our fundie christians are still better than their fundie muzzies, eh? I'll take it.
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Freedom os speech does not guarantee an audience! People assembled for a funeral should not be forced to provide that audience.
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It's technically considered harassment, though apparently the courts are getting many lulz from Westboro, plus they probably want to use them to draw out Anonymous.
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"Anonymous" - What are you referring to here, Bugsy?
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Government trolling.
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If I were a family and I figured these people would show up, I'd just have to bury my loved one in a hard to get to location and have some sort of way of contacting my family and friends to disclose the location. I guess that really complicates things, but they don't have to make it easy for the protesters to find the area and get to the area.

Can't they have some sort of gated cemetary owned by a family with only people who are invited to come? Maybe start building some sort of private cemetary that isn't owned by the public or a place where the public can go.

I don't know the legality of this, but maybe someone could figure out how to build cemetaries such as this. There could be a market for such things. Privately owned and you need an invite to go there, unless you have family buried there. There has to be a way to have a cemetary that is exclusive and not just anyone can go there.

Other than that, I like the idea of counter protestors. There was a group that was going to get together and everyone was going to wear these huge feathery angel wings and they were going to try to block the families view of these people.

Maybe also you could have some sort of screen or bright lights or something that you could use, even a fog machine or something to kind of make them less visible.

They want to be seen and heard. So maybe all the family could wear some sort of head peices with the dialogue and sounds of the funeral piped in, so they don't have to hear the protesters.

Then have counter protesters with angel wings or umbrellas or something big, even sheets or something to block the families view of them.

Then a fog machine or something to block the view.

Maybe set off some doves that are trained to crap all over the protesters.

There has to be some sort of defense and opposition. They have the right to be there, but families don't have to make it pleasent for them to be there. If it becomes a hassle to be there and they know birds will crap on them and there will be other protesters there to protest against them. Well they just have to make it such a hassle for them to be there that they won't bother to come.
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Other than that, I like the idea of counter protestors. There was a group that was going to get together and everyone was going to wear these huge feathery angel wings and they were going to try to block the families view of these people.

Maybe also you could have some sort of screen or bright lights or something that you could use, even a fog machine or something to kind of make them less visible.

They want to be seen and heard. So maybe all the family could wear some sort of head peices with the dialogue and sounds of the funeral piped in, so they don't have to hear the protesters.

Then have counter protesters with angel wings or umbrellas or something big, even sheets or something to block the families view of them.

Then a fog machine or something to block the view.

Maybe set off some doves that are trained to crap all over the protesters.


There has to be some sort of defense and opposition. They have the right to be there, but families don't have to make it pleasent for them to be there. If it becomes a hassle to be there and they know birds will crap on them and there will be other protesters there to protest against them. Well they just have to make it such a hassle for them to be there that they won't bother to come.
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I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?

I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them (Lev.24:10-16)? Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws (Lev. 20:14)?

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Re: 1st Amendment protects military funeral protesters - Bible Thumpers have right to offend families of gay soldiers
I think it's high time we take our grief to their personal gatherings. I know it's very tit for tat, but this will be a learning experience for everyone.
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