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ILLUMINATI MASTERS ! .... A Question of "Help".

 
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Rex i recently found my hammer, allso found the calm in my dreams
Maybe you need your hammer
At the look at your struggles i see rewards in the near future
 Quoting: skirmisher


Thank you my friend !

Indeed, the Aspiration of my hammer

The Challenge of Thor


I am the God Thor,
I am the War God,
I am the Thunderer!
Here in my Northland,
My fastness and fortress,
Reign I forever!
Here amid icebergs
Rule I the nations;
This is my hammer,
Miölner the mighty;
Giants and sorcerers
Cannot withstand it!

These are the gauntlets
Wherewith I wield it,
And hurl it afar off;
This is my girdle;
Whenever I brace it,
Strength is redoubled!

The light thou beholdest
Stream through the heavens,
In flashes of crimson,
Is but my red beard
Blown by the night-wind,
Affrighting the nations!
Jove is my brother;
Mine eyes are the lightning;
The wheels of my chariot
Roll in the thunder,
The blows of my hammer
Ring in the earthquake!

Force rules the world still,
Has ruled it, shall rule it;
Meekness is weakness,
Strength is triumphant,
Over the whole earth
Still is it Thor's Day!

Thou art a God too,
O Galilean!
And thus singled-handed
Unto the combat,
Gauntlet or Gospel,
Here I defy thee!


Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
 Quoting: REX QUONDAM, REXQUE FUTURUS


That was beautiful
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Rex i recently found my hammer, allso found the calm in my dreams
Maybe you need your hammer
At the look at your struggles i see rewards in the near future
 Quoting: skirmisher


Thank you my friend !

Indeed, the Aspiration of my hammer

The Challenge of Thor


I am the God Thor,
I am the War God,
I am the Thunderer!
Here in my Northland,
My fastness and fortress,
Reign I forever!
Here amid icebergs
Rule I the nations;
This is my hammer,
Miölner the mighty;
Giants and sorcerers
Cannot withstand it!

These are the gauntlets
Wherewith I wield it,
And hurl it afar off;
This is my girdle;
Whenever I brace it,
Strength is redoubled!

The light thou beholdest
Stream through the heavens,
In flashes of crimson,
Is but my red beard
Blown by the night-wind,
Affrighting the nations!
Jove is my brother;
Mine eyes are the lightning;
The wheels of my chariot
Roll in the thunder,
The blows of my hammer
Ring in the earthquake!

Force rules the world still,
Has ruled it, shall rule it;
Meekness is weakness,
Strength is triumphant,
Over the whole earth
Still is it Thor's Day!

Thou art a God too,
O Galilean!
And thus singled-handed
Unto the combat,
Gauntlet or Gospel,
Here I defy thee!


Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
 Quoting: REX QUONDAM, REXQUE FUTURUS


That was beautiful
 Quoting: skirmisher


Every Thursday my friend, Always think of Thors hammer, Its his day. Which happens to be today !
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What are your thoughts on this whole 2012 deal? Will there be global catastrophe and massive loss of life?
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Don't give up. Keep seeking the truth.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


Thanks Bugsy ! Loved your post about challenging Christians to speak without their copying and pasting, That was a good one !

lol..
 Quoting: REX QUONDAM, REXQUE FUTURUS


You will have to go 10 times deeper to see that there is no escape
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Trolling for Jesus? 5a
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If your frustrated, you failed
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Quite the oposite
You can not light a cigarette with a cigarette
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If your frustrated, you failed
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Jesus had doubts in the Garden of Gethsemane.
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Trolling for Jesus? 5a
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Oui, Oui, lol. That Jesus was from France.
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Hello again sir,

You say you are of a revolutionary mindset, which seems to be truth. You say you are illuminati, which also seems to be truth.


We see how chaotic and hectic the World is today. Many people blame the "illuminti" for many, many of these attrocities. Someone said earlier that they feel there has been much deception by some, in order to discredit the illuminati, a smear campaign if you will...

So if we choose to believe what you say, that illuminati and freemasons are of the light. Not necessarily satans light or whatever luciferian termanology that is used. Of GOD, The One and Only, the Creator's Light.

Who are the bad guys?? Illuminati good, xxxxxxxxxxxx = bad???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282684


The bad guys are also illuminati. Sometimes darkness masquerades as light.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


Conversely, of course, light must always spring from darkness... They say that in order to 'come forth,' 'God' first had to 'withdraw' himself into nothingness, or darkness, in order to expel the light that is creation. As far as my own advice, it has been given more than once, but you seem to have quite a fair handle on the whole thing yourself in spite of it, I see... My blessings on your own marriage...
"Come, my friend! let us go forth into the field; let us spend the night in the villages;

Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine have blossomed, whether the grapes have opened (to the view), whether the pomegranates have budded: there will I give my caresses unto thee.

The mandrakes give forth (their) smell, and at our doors are all manner of precious fruits, new and also old: O my friend! these have I laid up for thee. --Song of Songs
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Hello again sir,

You say you are of a revolutionary mindset, which seems to be truth. You say you are illuminati, which also seems to be truth.


We see how chaotic and hectic the World is today. Many people blame the "illuminti" for many, many of these attrocities. Someone said earlier that they feel there has been much deception by some, in order to discredit the illuminati, a smear campaign if you will...

So if we choose to believe what you say, that illuminati and freemasons are of the light. Not necessarily satans light or whatever luciferian termanology that is used. Of GOD, The One and Only, the Creator's Light.

Who are the bad guys?? Illuminati good, xxxxxxxxxxxx = bad???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282684


The bad guys are also illuminati. Sometimes darkness masquerades as light.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


Conversely, of course, light must always spring from darkness... They say that in order to 'come forth,' 'God' first had to 'withdraw' himself into nothingness, or darkness, in order to expel the light that is creation. As far as my own advice, it has been given more than once, but you seem to have quite a fair handle on the whole thing yourself in spite of it, I see... My blessings on your own marriage...
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine



LaReine, excellent ! I have more to say on this, I will soon. Not having a good day again, Mars opposing Saturn. lol... arrghh.
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Hello again sir,

You say you are of a revolutionary mindset, which seems to be truth. You say you are illuminati, which also seems to be truth.


We see how chaotic and hectic the World is today. Many people blame the "illuminti" for many, many of these attrocities. Someone said earlier that they feel there has been much deception by some, in order to discredit the illuminati, a smear campaign if you will...

So if we choose to believe what you say, that illuminati and freemasons are of the light. Not necessarily satans light or whatever luciferian termanology that is used. Of GOD, The One and Only, the Creator's Light.

Who are the bad guys?? Illuminati good, xxxxxxxxxxxx = bad???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282684


The bad guys are also illuminati. Sometimes darkness masquerades as light.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


Conversely, of course, light must always spring from darkness... They say that in order to 'come forth,' 'God' first had to 'withdraw' himself into nothingness, or darkness, in order to expel the light that is creation. As far as my own advice, it has been given more than once, but you seem to have quite a fair handle on the whole thing yourself in spite of it, I see... My blessings on your own marriage...
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine



LaReine, excellent ! I have more to say on this, I will soon. Not having a good day again, Mars opposing Saturn. lol... arrghh.
 Quoting: ORDO OF THE MILLENIUM


So, I am 'Golden' no more, then...? I miss it, in a way; I will try to hang on for that, for a bit. I miss our little talks, too.
"Come, my friend! let us go forth into the field; let us spend the night in the villages;

Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine have blossomed, whether the grapes have opened (to the view), whether the pomegranates have budded: there will I give my caresses unto thee.

The mandrakes give forth (their) smell, and at our doors are all manner of precious fruits, new and also old: O my friend! these have I laid up for thee. --Song of Songs
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I'm embarrassed to even ask among such advanced members but I'm fascinated by what is being said here. Even though I only understand about 65% of it.

Here is my question:

What is the ONE thing, you recommend I start with in my more advanced "enlightenment"?

I have performed zero rituals, and just focus on meditation. Not looking to reach your level, and don't feel it is possible for me at this late stage, but would definitely appreciate a good beginner tip from advanced members of this forum such as yourselves.

Thank you in advance.
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Naughty loo men Ill

Keep saying it and see if it picks up in intensity.

IE Men who are naughty in the bathrooms(whatever) do they become more ill than others? Public bathrooms, bathhouses. bathists as a political party(perhaps)
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I have performed zero rituals, and just focus on meditation. Not looking to reach your level, and don't feel it is possible for me at this late stage, but would definitely appreciate a good beginner tip from advanced members of this forum such as yourselves.

Thank you in advance.
 Quoting: SV


Modern Magick by the author Kraig if you are interested in the formal study of ritual magick.

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I'm embarrassed to even ask among such advanced members but I'm fascinated by what is being said here. Even though I only understand about 65% of it.

Here is my question:

What is the ONE thing, you recommend I start with in my more advanced "enlightenment"?

I have performed zero rituals, and just focus on meditation. Not looking to reach your level, and don't feel it is possible for me at this late stage, but would definitely appreciate a good beginner tip from advanced members of this forum such as yourselves.

Thank you in advance.
 Quoting: SV


the ONE thing is that GOD is ONE..

He is everything over all. He cannot punish people by sending them to hell and some to Heaven. He just Is and will always be, He is the Everything and the All. hes not even the one mentioned in the Bible and other ancient text and yet he is.. He is THE ALL.

Start off with this small book, Its a Gem !

THE KYBALLION by the Three Initiates.
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The bad guys are also illuminati. Sometimes darkness masquerades as light.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


Conversely, of course, light must always spring from darkness... They say that in order to 'come forth,' 'God' first had to 'withdraw' himself into nothingness, or darkness, in order to expel the light that is creation. As far as my own advice, it has been given more than once, but you seem to have quite a fair handle on the whole thing yourself in spite of it, I see... My blessings on your own marriage...
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine



LaReine, excellent ! I have more to say on this, I will soon. Not having a good day again, Mars opposing Saturn. lol... arrghh.
 Quoting: ORDO OF THE MILLENIUM


So, I am 'Golden' no more, then...? I miss it, in a way; I will try to hang on for that, for a bit. I miss our little talks, too.
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine


Metalworking is a process, there is always more dross to skim off before we have the pure Gold to make our Golden Goblet and forge our Iron Sword...Base metals turning into usefull implements...
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Hello again sir,

You say you are of a revolutionary mindset, which seems to be truth. You say you are illuminati, which also seems to be truth.


We see how chaotic and hectic the World is today. Many people blame the "illuminti" for many, many of these attrocities. Someone said earlier that they feel there has been much deception by some, in order to discredit the illuminati, a smear campaign if you will...

So if we choose to believe what you say, that illuminati and freemasons are of the light. Not necessarily satans light or whatever luciferian termanology that is used. Of GOD, The One and Only, the Creator's Light.

Who are the bad guys?? Illuminati good, xxxxxxxxxxxx = bad???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282684


The bad guys are also illuminati. Sometimes darkness masquerades as light.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


Conversely, of course, light must always spring from darkness... They say that in order to 'come forth,' 'God' first had to 'withdraw' himself into nothingness, or darkness, in order to expel the light that is creation. As far as my own advice, it has been given more than once, but you seem to have quite a fair handle on the whole thing yourself in spite of it, I see... My blessings on your own marriage...
 Quoting: The Cross of LaReine



LaReine, excellent ! I have more to say on this, I will soon. Not having a good day again, Mars opposing Saturn. lol... arrghh.
 Quoting: ORDO OF THE MILLENIUM


Its the void that is the womb... it is the source creation. the dark matter before the big bang ! What happens at conception is the Micro of the Macro of what happens at the birth of a Universe !
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Can you please explain what and who you really are? Or are you role-playing?
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Im a Ordained Minister, An Illuminist Initiate, The Order of Melchizedek, and a few other Orders.

But Im not a Master, only a Probate. I teach students on a casual, informal level the lesser mysteries. (link in sig)

Im not role playing as the steps therein are impossible to role play, As I said before, All charts of my progress are available to Masters upon Request.

I just got a phone call and I feel better, It had some good news,

I apologize for letting off steam, I just get lonely.. and depressed as its still not the Final Initiation of the New Dawn.
 Quoting: REX QUONDAM, REXQUE FUTURUS




I'm truly sorry to hear that, but truth be told if you think you feel bad now just wait until the second advent when you realize exactly what you have invested yourself in for so very, very long now.

You see there is a vast difference between learned wisdom and common sense. Knowledge is only knowledge and yes it can be accessed, studied, learned, memorized, whatever... but the divine doth not come from the Tree of Knowledge by a long shot... and grace isn't something you receive thru ritual effort. Quite the opposite in fact. God hates anything repetitive or ritualistic in nature such as chanting and/or repetitive motion of the body and etc. He makes that perfectly clear so that's on you since you have made it your business to study so hard and effect such rituals in your quest for the power you believe will come to you from being declared Illumined by those you refer to as Masters. Freemasters in some states.

Knowledge is like money honey, and money can't buy you Love.

Pity
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Don't give up. Keep seeking the truth.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


Thanks Bugsy ! Loved your post about challenging Christians to speak without their copying and pasting, That was a good one !

lol..
 Quoting: REX QUONDAM, REXQUE FUTURUS



I have to agree on that point wholeheartedly, yes.

Parroting scripture is not going to help anyone understand a thing with any more clarity at this point. It is ridiculous. If they have something to say they need to say it in the most simplistic terminology possible since the majority of misconceptions regarding the meaning and truth behind the biblical texts are due in full to improper, twisted, corrupted/polluted transliterations of same.

The world has seen enough of what straight up quoted scripture can do and it clearly falls short in this day and age wherein a whole new vocabulary needs to be established with reference to that used back in the day so that the exact intent can be transferred verbatim with the full meaning and proper emphasis intact. That is the purpose and duty of any so called teacher of the word and yet seems to be the one thing they all fall beyond short in accomplishing.

Just a pity is all.

If people cannot take the point they believe the scripture is intending... and rephrase it in the most commonly used terminology that they are capable of articulating then they needn't bother at all. If they don't understand it well enough themselves to say it outright in plain english then they damn sure have no business trying to enlighten another with it to any degree. no business at all as they are in effect doing far more harm than good in the process.

common sense seems to be the missing link in this equation.

just a damn shame.

Anyone that was the least bit interested in trying to understand scripture would have had the good sense to find an accomplished professor/expert of ancient languages since they would surely realize that what "cloud" meant back at that time has little of nothing to do with what the same word means in todays terminology. Nothing at all.

Herein lies all the problems in the first place, arguing over proper translations, that's all it is it seems. Hence parroting (copy/pasting) the same misunderstood verbiage is utterly useless and at best only creates more disillusionment for the recipients of same and in turn sparks further hot debates rather than allowing a light bulb to go on in anyones mind.

People that feel the need to copy and paste scripture obviously have no real understanding of it's meaning in the first place, this much they do make perfectly clear in the doing and I daresay that couldn't possibly have been their intent.

They are patronizing others by doing so because it's all been read and rereading the same misunderstood, misconstrued scriptures again and again only serves to give people a headache, the broken record effect and it ain't a good one.

So yeah, thanks but no thanks scriptural parrots. Your work here is done I pray. Literally. (no pun intended but wtf, oh well huh?)

In the first place most of them haven't a clue with regard to colloquialisms and/or hebraisms to begin with.
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On cursing,
Many Avatars are well versed in brutal language including curses, sometimes strings of curses.
It's been said that the man who was Jesus was filled with rage,was known at times to have a frightening temper, indulged in the wacky weed of the day,drank his wine and his passion included intimate relationships with many a woman.
And he's been said to have had much red in his hair,representing his anger....
It had to be horrific for him as his life/spirit was unfolding,one of his gifts was being clairvoyant and knowing the past and future.
Reminds me of Chinese water torture,drip by drip you begin to know your destiny.
If true, it would explain why he was supposedly missing for 30 yrs.

My point here is we don't know and assuming that if one curses,or drinks,loves sex, eats meat,or whatever that it must mean that they aren't or couldn't possibly be in the process of enlightenment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1248229




assuming anything in anothers regard is akin to judging them

and God doesn't approve of those who treat the word GOD as if it were a bad word either, whereby they write is G-D instead of saying/typing/spelling it loud and proud. I for one don't blame Him at all for this and I understand it completely. There is no such thing as political correctness, that is just another of the NWO lies meant to compromise truth by virtue of the false light they profess to bring.

Moral and ethical correctness is one thing...

But political correctness?

Ha! Never the twain shall meet.
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Don't give up. Keep seeking the truth.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


Thanks Bugsy ! Loved your post about challenging Christians to speak without their copying and pasting, That was a good one !

lol..
 Quoting: REX QUONDAM, REXQUE FUTURUS



I have to agree on that point wholeheartedly, yes.

Parroting scripture is not going to help anyone understand a thing with any more clarity at this point. It is ridiculous. If they have something to say they need to say it in the most simplistic terminology possible since the majority of misconceptions regarding the meaning and truth behind the biblical texts are due in full to improper, twisted, corrupted/polluted transliterations of same.

The world has seen enough of what straight up quoted scripture can do and it clearly falls short in this day and age wherein a whole new vocabulary needs to be established with reference to that used back in the day so that the exact intent can be transferred verbatim with the full meaning and proper emphasis intact. That is the purpose and duty of any so called teacher of the word and yet seems to be the one thing they all fall beyond short in accomplishing.

Just a pity is all.

If people cannot take the point they believe the scripture is intending... and rephrase it in the most commonly used terminology that they are capable of articulating then they needn't bother at all. If they don't understand it well enough themselves to say it outright in plain english then they damn sure have no business trying to enlighten another with it to any degree. no business at all as they are in effect doing far more harm than good in the process.

common sense seems to be the missing link in this equation.

just a damn shame.

Anyone that was the least bit interested in trying to understand scripture would have had the good sense to find an accomplished professor/expert of ancient languages since they would surely realize that what "cloud" meant back at that time has little of nothing to do with what the same word means in todays terminology. Nothing at all.

Herein lies all the problems in the first place, arguing over proper translations, that's all it is it seems. Hence parroting (copy/pasting) the same misunderstood verbiage is utterly useless and at best only creates more disillusionment for the recipients of same and in turn sparks further hot debates rather than allowing a light bulb to go on in anyones mind.

People that feel the need to copy and paste scripture obviously have no real understanding of it's meaning in the first place, this much they do make perfectly clear in the doing and I daresay that couldn't possibly have been their intent.

They are patronizing others by doing so because it's all been read and rereading the same misunderstood, misconstrued scriptures again and again only serves to give people a headache, the broken record effect and it ain't a good one.

So yeah, thanks but no thanks scriptural parrots. Your work here is done I pray. Literally. (no pun intended but wtf, oh well huh?)

In the first place most of them haven't a clue with regard to colloquialisms and/or hebraisms to begin with.
 Quoting: touche' 1285430


Touche, excellent ! its what got me into Illuminism and Mysticism, they study the ORIGINAL language ! new insights into the Serpent and who Jesus actually was, Who Yahweh was, part of the Elohim when one studies the Original Hebrew and Greek

Its a shame that Christians copy and paste the English Translations without learning it within, without learning the intended lesson

Its the greatest tragedy of modern religion of what should have been one of the worlds greatest religions

Id love to restore Christianity to its proper place as a inner Gnostic Sun God Religion.
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Look into David de Rothschild, he's right square in the middle of the illuminati bad guys but doesn't seem to be tainted by it. Perhaps he is the glitter that is not gold.
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Look into David de Rothschild, he's right square in the middle of the illuminati bad guys but doesn't seem to be tainted by it. Perhaps he is the glitter that is not gold.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


Bugsy ! no one can be Illuminati bad guy, Theyd be the Darkinati !

lol.

Illuminati means Light. Enlightenment. Its a name of the Inner mysteries...and the connection with the Help of the Shining Ones. Where we meet on the World Mountain

Speaking of Rothschild, dont forget Rockefellers who made their fortune from the Steel Corporation. Theyve done many charitable contributions ! There is good that can be done with money.
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Look into David de Rothschild, he's right square in the middle of the illuminati bad guys but doesn't seem to be tainted by it. Perhaps he is the glitter that is not gold.
 Quoting: Bugsy Moran


Bugsy ! no one can be Illuminati bad guy, Theyd be the Darkinati !

lol.

Illuminati means Light. Enlightenment. Its a name of the Inner mysteries...and the connection with the Help of the Shining Ones. Where we meet on the World Mountain

Speaking of Rothschild, dont forget Rockefellers who made their fortune from the Steel Corporation. Theyve done many charitable contributions ! There is good that can be done with money.
 Quoting: ORDO OF THE MILLENIUM


There is no absence of light, only absence of God. There is a bad illuminati, they are without God.

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