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Question about Homosexuals - what is it?

 
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Hi all,

After years of being bombarded with pro-gay and anti-gay opinions in media and elsewhere, I still don't comprehend the issue. And frankly getting tired about it when there are far more important matters in the world in my opinion.

So I did some quick research to see what the fuss is all about, but still could not come to a conclusion based on reason.

It seems homosexuals claim it is by birth, while anti-gays claim it is a choice. Did I get that right? Don't scientists know the answer to this?

So what is homosexuality exactly? Can someone kindly explain.

- is a gay person born that way so they are not sexually attracted to the opposite sex from a young age?

- are there any straight people turning gay later in life?

Personally, I can never imagine myself with another man at any point in my life. I feel nauseous even thinking about it.

I cannot fathom any straight person 'choosing' to be with the same sex.

So if homosexuality is by birth, shouldn't it be considered a type of mental disorder (which is nothing to be ashamed of or prejudiced)? I don't mean any disrespect when I ask this, I only want to comprehend the issue because nobody really explains exactly what homosexuality is, only preach what their views are.

Appreciate any feedback. Thank you.
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"So if homosexuality is by birth, shouldn't it be considered a type of mental disorder"

The fact that you said this means that you have already formed an opinion.

You are either an attention whore ready for a fight, a christian ready to cite biblical damnation, a troll wanting to cause a stir between the many religious vs humantiarian rights posts already, someone who just can't stand homosexuals, someone who is homosexual and hasn't come to terms with it and wants to be deemed as mental, someone who is mental and can't understand, a homosexual that wants a fight...etc
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PS. what is your assumption on those who choose neither, or have no feelings towards no sex...as in the opposite of bisexual? Is choosing nothing a mental disorder for thise who prefer celibecy? Are they mental, frowned upon for not having babies, have no feelings (and I mean have nothing) for either sex and just wanting to seek enlightenment?
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"So if homosexuality is by birth, shouldn't it be considered a type of mental disorder"

The fact that you said this means that you have already formed an opinion.

You are either an attention whore ready for a fight, a christian ready to cite biblical damnation, a troll wanting to cause a stir between the many religious vs humantiarian rights posts already, someone who just can't stand homosexuals, someone who is homosexual and hasn't come to terms with it and wants to be deemed as mental, someone who is mental and can't understand, a homosexual that wants a fight...etc
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i think you are onto something there.
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Homosexuality is no different than Beastiality or other peverted sexual practices....

A feeling does not define you....

If you act on a feeling because you believe your feeling defines you then you eventually you become as you feel...
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Homosexuality is no different than Beastiality or other peverted sexual practices....

A feeling does not define you....

If you act on a feeling because you believe your feeling defines you then you eventually you become as you feel...
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I loved God before I knew him, are you associating that with bestiality? I acted on a feeling and it defined me and I became what I felt...your anology is perverse therfore shows your fruit before your utter another word. You made your statement and are judged by many for it.
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Homosexuality is no different than Beastiality or other peverted sexual practices....

A feeling does not define you....

If you act on a feeling because you believe your feeling defines you then you eventually you become as you feel...
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I loved God before I knew him, are you associating that with bestiality? I acted on a feeling and it defined me and I became what I felt...your anology is perverse therfore shows your fruit before your utter another word. You made your statement and are judged by many for it.
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Why do you condemn Beastilaity if a person truly has a *Feeling* of sexual attraction for an animal...

If a feeling defines an individual where does it stop????


People have feelings about many many things...

I do not question your love for GOD....
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Homosexuality is no different than Beastiality or other peverted sexual practices....

A feeling does not define you....

If you act on a feeling because you believe your feeling defines you then you eventually you become as you feel...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246263


I loved God before I knew him, are you associating that with bestiality? I acted on a feeling and it defined me and I became what I felt...your anology is perverse therfore shows your fruit before your utter another word. You made your statement and are judged by many for it.
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Why do you condemn Beastilaity if a person truly has a *Feeling* of sexual attraction for an animal...

If a feeling defines an individual where does it stop????


People have feelings about many many things...

I do not question your love for GOD....
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I think you are missinterpreting consent and love with animalistic intention that is present in both sexes regardless of sexuality. I think that all humas have definitions of the bestial and the consentual in varying degrees. Most offence towards homosexuality as being immoral is no different as heterosexual immorality or animialstic behavior if used as a power tip or to abuse. The difference being consentual and complete love for another where the animalistic becomes absolved. If you want to judge another by your own standards then you so shall be judged as the pharisee who though they felt righteous compared to the tax payer who was humbled. be careful between what you call bestial and animalistic....you are using a very large brush that covers all humanity and have no consideration that only God can judge the heart of man or woman.

If man and woman were always meant to procreate the most families would have 10's of twenties of children. Do you think that married cpoupes only copulate when the want a child, or do they try to avoid pregnancy on occasion. Count how many times you have had sex vs how many kids you have (for the virle). I know many Irish catholics that have more sex than children, and they dont want more....which biblically is bestial.
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It is born not learned
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I am the OP.

I'm not looking for a fight nor am I a troll. I'm just asking a legitimate question since there are many intellectual people on GLP forums. Unfortunately, I did not get a definite answer.

When I went to school, we were never taught about homosexuals. So I'm just curious about it, that's all.

I don't know why bestiality got involved in this topic?

To answer one posters question, I don't think celibacy is a mental disorder. It's just their decision not to have sex. There is a major difference between not having sex and homosexuality.

My inquiry was what homosexuality is exactly. Are homosexuals, bisexuals, transgenders born that way? As I mentioned before, I cannot imagine any straight person turning gay.

It appears anti-gay groups claim it is their choice and gay groups respond back that they were born that way. At least this is what I found while doing a bit of research.

If a person is born gay, then I would think that it is a mental disorder. But it is who they are. Some people are born with mental disorders and shouldn't be prejudiced. It would be like restricting marriage between the developmentally disabled, the deaf, people with speech impediments, on wheelchairs, etc.

Personally I don't care if it is a choice (although I would be amazed how one can suddenly choose homosexuality) or are born that way. But if born that way, then all the prejudice is outrageous.

I think it would beneficial if the pro-gay groups actually EXPLAIN what homosexuality is for people to understand it better.
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You are not born gay, because there are many many peoplec who were "gay" then decided that men weren't for them anymore and went back to women. These people were gay, not bisexual just gay, then changed to straight.
And there are some men who were straight and then decided they liked men.
It's a choice like any of sexuality or fetish.
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It is born not learned
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Yes..some are BORN with an INNATE DESIRE to insert their cocks into the shit in others bumholes..and others are not.
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I'll try to explain in parts. Depending on the reactions to my posts I'll either continue or discontinue my insights. There is no use to me in having my efforts stopped by spam.

Homosexuality is based on feelings towards the same sex. Though there are cases where an individual (forcefully) chooses to engage in homosexual activity, for several reasons - chemical necessity (prison), money (porn), and others.

The choice is made when an individual with these feelings (biochemical, spiritual, etc.) are acted upon. One becomes "gay" when they fall in love with a same sex individual, and the relationship becomes beneficial to both individuals. Again, being "gay" is more of a personality type than a sexual configuration. For example, a heterosexual couple can claim to be gay.
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Furthermore, to stylistically explain this topic I'll say the following: certain individuals are born with the ingredients to become any degree of "gay". Throughout the course of the lives of these people they may experience "trauma"; triggers that activate certain ingredients. Life sucks shit sometimes.

If you see where I'm going with this, you can say "well if they're victims, you can't really blame the victim".

Sometimes there is no "trigger" involved.

The topic of homosexuality (and being "gay") is incredible complex IMO. It's a (paradoxically) creative form of sex, involving artificial means - condoms, lubricants, chemicals (for sanitizing, etc.), and toys.

Chaotic.
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Ianto + Harkness. That'd turn anyone at least bi.
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Hi all,

After years of being bombarded with pro-gay and anti-gay opinions in media and elsewhere, I still don't comprehend the issue. And frankly getting tired about it when there are far more important matters in the world in my opinion.

So I did some quick research to see what the fuss is all about, but still could not come to a conclusion based on reason.

It seems homosexuals claim it is by birth, while anti-gays claim it is a choice. Did I get that right? Don't scientists know the answer to this?

So what is homosexuality exactly? Can someone kindly explain.

- is a gay person born that way so they are not sexually attracted to the opposite sex from a young age?

- are there any straight people turning gay later in life?

Personally, I can never imagine myself with another man at any point in my life. I feel nauseous even thinking about it.

I cannot fathom any straight person 'choosing' to be with the same sex.

So if homosexuality is by birth, shouldn't it be considered a type of mental disorder (which is nothing to be ashamed of or prejudiced)? I don't mean any disrespect when I ask this, I only want to comprehend the issue because nobody really explains exactly what homosexuality is, only preach what their views are.

Appreciate any feedback. Thank you.
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It is only nature... Animal's bare homosexuality in every species... I believe people was born homosexual... I believe that this is what makes this world colorful... If everyone was the same... this world would be a boring place to live... We all need to love each other for who we are and stop supporting classification and keeping people in groups and keeping us separated... This is how the Elites want us to act... Policing each other so we can be in groups instead of coming together... We would be impossible to control... and that is what this is all about... Control!
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Yes..some are BORN with an INNATE DESIRE to insert their cocks into the shit in others bumholes..and others are not.
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Yes it's true that homosexuality is a choice. I mean it's obvious is'nt it that gays would chose a life where they are often in despair enough to commit suicide, hated and discriminated against?

It's a choice any sensible person would make.
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Well science has found gay pheromones. Pheromones are naturally occurring chemicals in the human body that are attractants. It appears that while straight people are attracted to and release cross gender attracting pheromones, gays release and are attracted to same gender pheromones.

As for Science and 'belief'. Science has pretty much demonstrated that Noah's Flood could not have been a global flood. There is no physical evidence of such an event. Yet we have billions who believe that Noah's Flood took place exactly as the bible described.

'Belief' of a thing doesn't mean a person is correct. Unfortunately many people have certain 'beliefs' about homosexuals and homosexuality.

Yet in both cases we have people who believe that being gay means you have sex with anything that moves (you are promiscuous) and that every gay man 'takes it up the rear'.

As for homosexuality being a 'mental disorder'. When stacked against the ever increasing number of other species where homosexuality and bisexuality take place on a regular basis, it becomes clear that homosexuality falls with in the parameters of sexuality for many species, including humans.

To say that being a homosexual is a 'disorder' is like saying that a person who doesn't like chocolate suffers from a disorder. While 95% of the population like or even love chocolate, there is that 5% who can't stand the taste of chocolate and actually think its the nastiest thing on earth (Personally I loath chocolate, its nasty) Does this mean that the 5% who hate chocolate suffer from a mental disorder?
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Then it's a disorder or a birth defect. If that homosexual's parents acted the same way, then they would not be born or exist. How's that for irony?
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I've never liked the argument about choice. For most people
straight and gay it is not a choice. But ultimately its
freedom that matters rather than if its a choice or not.

America is not a theocracy. No one should have the right to
impose there religious ideas of right and wrong on me. End
of story.
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Then it's a disorder or a birth defect. If that homosexual's parents acted the same way, then they would not be born or exist. How's that for irony?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170814


That's the problem with hetrosexual's: They produce gay people. How's that for irony?
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Then it's a disorder or a birth defect. If that homosexual's parents acted the same way, then they would not be born or exist. How's that for irony?
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That's the problem with hetrosexual's: They produce gay people. How's that for irony?
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I don't trust a woman that won't smoke a pole or a man who would. PERIOD.
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Well science has found gay pheromones. Pheromones are naturally occurring chemicals in the human body that are attractants. It appears that while straight people are attracted to and release cross gender attracting pheromones, gays release and are attracted to same gender pheromones.

 Quoting: Dr. House


I'm gay myself, but i have serious doubts about there being "Gay pheromones".
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It is born not learned
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Then it's a disorder or a birth defect. If that homosexual's parents acted the same way, then they would not be born or exist. How's that for irony?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170814


That's the problem with hetrosexual's: They produce gay people. How's that for irony?
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I don't trust a woman that won't smoke a pole or a man who would. PERIOD.
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What has sexual orientation got to do with being trustworthy or not?
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I still can't figure out what they've done to harm anyone? They can't turn people 'gay'. They aren't randomly attacking heterosexuals (like we are towards them). Why does anyone give a fuck to be honest? They exist, get over it.. homophobes.

I think there's a clear distincting between sexual freaks and homosexuality. Homosexuality is innate, born with the trait. Call it a mutation or whatever. We all have mutations and trait characteristics or we'd all look and act the same. I'd call that a boring fucking world. Sexual freaks or deviants want to fuck everything in site, male/female/both and can switch back and forth. But you know what, they don't even bother me either. Who cares what happens in the bedroom either? If the homosexual agenda bothers you, well you may as well give up on all your favorite hollywood movies/tv. Just about every bit of entertainment we enjoy today is created in some part by homosexuals. They're good it.. and good on them.

Rant over.
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You are not born gay, because there are many many peoplec who were "gay" then decided that men weren't for them anymore and went back to women. These people were gay, not bisexual just gay, then changed to straight.
And there are some men who were straight and then decided they liked men.
It's a choice like any of sexuality or fetish.
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What is the difference/similarity between "gay" and "homosexual"? The question is about "homosexuals". Until recent times most of the homosexuals I knew were miserable and confused, in fact anything but "gay".
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Homosexuals are mentally ill, they got molested and that turned them queer. They're damaged and depraved.
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Hi all,

After years of being bombarded with pro-gay and anti-gay opinions in media and elsewhere, I still don't comprehend the issue. And frankly getting tired about it when there are far more important matters in the world in my opinion.

So I did some quick research to see what the fuss is all about, but still could not come to a conclusion based on reason.

It seems homosexuals claim it is by birth, while anti-gays claim it is a choice. Did I get that right? Don't scientists know the answer to this?

So what is homosexuality exactly? Can someone kindly explain.

- is a gay person born that way so they are not sexually attracted to the opposite sex from a young age?

- are there any straight people turning gay later in life?

Personally, I can never imagine myself with another man at any point in my life. I feel nauseous even thinking about it.

I cannot fathom any straight person 'choosing' to be with the same sex.

So if homosexuality is by birth, shouldn't it be considered a type of mental disorder (which is nothing to be ashamed of or prejudiced)? I don't mean any disrespect when I ask this, I only want to comprehend the issue because nobody really explains exactly what homosexuality is, only preach what their views are.

Appreciate any feedback. Thank you.
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the mom from family ties, meridth baxter just came out and she has 5 grown children

and it was still listed in a psychological disorder book up until late 90's I think.

I personally feel I was born gay.

all the emotions and feelings are the same man to man as you would feel with someone you are resonating with

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