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HEBREW AND GREEK WORDS IN THE BIBLE MISTRANSLATED TO MEAN HELL

 
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"There is not a single word in any of the original Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts of the Bible that means hell, a place of everlasting punishment for unbelievers."


This IS actually GOOD NEWS!

There is NO such thing as HELL!

5a
 Quoting: Sir.Kalin


growlbear Sir Kalin is a Satanic liar, don't follow him down the easy path to hell. You will bitterly regret it for the rest of eternity.

If you would like to know more from a truthful biblical viewpoint, not from Satanic Roman Catholic lies, then read this.

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This is an exceptionally important topic.
It is one of the things that I discovered while studying Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic.

5 stars and a pin for you OP.
 Quoting: Comedian


Yep!


This is why most people say the bible doesn't make sense. They never take the time out to read the texts in their original languages. It's all there if you're truly serious about learning.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth (NLI) 1013398


9teen It is not necessary to know ancient Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic etc to arrive at the truth.
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the truth...
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you are very fucking weird.
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There will come a day very soon when repentance will be taken away.
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Absolute bullshit.
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It is all over the Old Testament. Here are a few:

Micah 3:4
Then they will cry to Yahweh, but he will not answer them. Yes, he will hide his face from them at that time, because they made their deeds evil.

Did the Lord save anyone not in the Ark, after the rains started ? Did He spare anyone after the Angel passed through Jerusalem and marked the righteous on their forehead:

Ezekiel 9
3 Now the glory of the God of Israel had gone up from the cherub on which it rested to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed in linen, who had the writing case at his waist. 4 And the Lord said to him, “Pass through the city, through Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and groan over all the abominations that are committed in it.” 5 And to the others he said in my hearing, “Pass through the city after him, and strike. Your eye shall not spare, and you shall show no pity.


To understand the 4th seal and what it is all about you need to read the books of Jeremiah and Ezekiel.
 Quoting: Stoned Prophet


The very reason for judgment is specifically to bring people to repentance. Jonah summed it up with his statement "I cried out to the Lord because of my affliction,
And He answered me". Further, Isaiah says "For when Your judgments are in the earth, The inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness."

God doesn't issue retribution without intent to *fix* the problem and change us, like some impersonal force.
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work all day for a sack of gluten? good god take the supply wagon by force and EAT.
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Yep, That is the sign. Food prices have been going up for the last 4 years. They will continue going up until we hit the point that people are working a day for a quart of wheat (loaf of bread).

No major worldwide doom will happen until food prices get that high. Then the 4th seal will be broken RIGHT ON SCHEDULE. All the other doom that fills this board happens after the fifth seal, problem is most of the people on this board will be dead from the 4th seal verysad
 Quoting: Stoned Prophet


Who is going to bother taking your precious Mark Of The Beast if everything will be too expensive to afford anyhow?

hmm
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There is an angel in the Book of Revelation who goes around the whole earth warning people not to take the Mark. He does this after the 7th trumpet. Now warning people to not take the mark AFTER it is enforced is stupid and evil, so this angel must give this warning BEFORE the mark.

That places the mark of the Beast very far down, after the 7th trumpet. Most of you people are going to die in the 4th seal and not have to worry about this, so your comment is off topic.

You do not believe me because of all the paid false prophets from seminaries going around saying things that break scripture. Anyone who claims to speak for the Lord and breaks the inherent order of the prophecies in the Book of Revelation is a false prophet and should be ignored.
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I don't think you understood my question. You make it sound as though people will be eager to take this mark and will need to be warned not to. . .I'm asking why would they even want it? Per your claims, goods will be too expensive.

I don't believe you because I don't do "Doom" any longer, nor armchair eschatology (which is essentially "Doom").
Revelation is little more than a summary, and unless we establish a sound foundation on the previous 65 books, we're bound to end up in left field preaching a bunch of sensational nonsense that doesn't bless anyone.
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"There is not a single word in any of the original Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts of the Bible that means hell, a place of everlasting punishment for unbelievers."


This IS actually GOOD NEWS!

There is NO such thing as HELL!

5a
 Quoting: Sir.Kalin


This is true. There is no hell. You will be in an environment that reflects your heart after this world. For some it will be like hell, but its their own deeds and thinking, thus their own world.
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Think of the mark as being a business permit in the time that the 5th and 6th trumps unfold. 10 men are given kingdoms and that is who the world's population will serve, Get a permit means agreeing to a contract with the 10 men after they have surrendered to two angelic beings who will appear to be in conflict with each other but are together in a plan that includes having a temple on holy ground in Jerusalem and God only allows that to take place in the 4 days the 2 witnesses lay dead. The moment life enters them again the people there see through the deception and that is moments before worship of the image (the false throne)can take place. The sequence in Re:11 has the men that see the resurrection as being the ones that run to the mountains and it says they are merchants but stopped from worshiping the Beast.2/3 of the world's population die on that day, the first 7,000 are in Jerusalem in that first quake that starts the 7 vial being poured out in just a few hours. The last quake in the vials is the one in Zec:14.

As somebody pointed out yesterday the warning about the mark would be worship of the image under threat of death is given as late as the 7th trump so repenting still works until that event is done and it needs a throne to be standing where it should not be.
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There will be no judgement. God does not judge. He loves his sons and daughters.

After, there is a state to be within God, or to be outside. The situation to be "outside" is always interpreted as "hell" or "judgement".

But it is not. It is a state of being. A situation which can be changed.

God created you, he is your father, he loves you. He loves you more than you are ever able to love your own children.

All he does is to help you in your free will to come back to him.
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holy ground in Jerusalem
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dude.
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We are soul, spirit and man of woman.

One day we leave the state of being man or woman behind, we leave our body. That normally is a day of joy.

We live on, with whats left, our soul and spirit.

Notice the spirit comes from god, the soul usually comes from you.

In that state, when you left your body, normally you refind your soul.

The spirit evolves if you believe and love god, and it comes to you. The marriage of the spirit and your soul makes you one.

Until that day, you are in hell. And it doesn't matter if you live here or there.

Notice, and that is nice; children, who didn't have choices come to special places, are being taken care of with all the love and they have a special place.
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Don't worry about the ones who leave this earth,

worry about the ones, who are on this earth.
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Yep, That is the sign. Food prices have been going up for the last 4 years. They will continue going up until we hit the point that people are working a day for a quart of wheat (loaf of bread).

No major worldwide doom will happen until food prices get that high. Then the 4th seal will be broken RIGHT ON SCHEDULE. All the other doom that fills this board happens after the fifth seal, problem is most of the people on this board will be dead from the 4th seal verysad
 Quoting: Stoned Prophet


Who is going to bother taking your precious Mark Of The Beast if everything will be too expensive to afford anyhow?

hmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


There is an angel in the Book of Revelation who goes around the whole earth warning people not to take the Mark. He does this after the 7th trumpet. Now warning people to not take the mark AFTER it is enforced is stupid and evil, so this angel must give this warning BEFORE the mark.

That places the mark of the Beast very far down, after the 7th trumpet. Most of you people are going to die in the 4th seal and not have to worry about this, so your comment is off topic.

You do not believe me because of all the paid false prophets from seminaries going around saying things that break scripture. Anyone who claims to speak for the Lord and breaks the inherent order of the prophecies in the Book of Revelation is a false prophet and should be ignored.
 Quoting: Stoned Prophet


I don't think you understood my question. You make it sound as though people will be eager to take this mark and will need to be warned not to. . .I'm asking why would they even want it? Per your claims, goods will be too expensive.

I don't believe you because I don't do "Doom" any longer, nor armchair eschatology (which is essentially "Doom").
Revelation is little more than a summary, and unless we establish a sound foundation on the previous 65 books, we're bound to end up in left field preaching a bunch of sensational nonsense that doesn't bless anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


The Book of Revelation IS THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST. It tells us EXACTLY how he will reveal Himself to the world in the end times. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS AGE.

The 4th seal is a famine. Famines in the Bible are only 3 1/2 or 7 years. The famine of the fourth seal will be over long before the mark, which I just proved to you must occur after the 7th trumpet, so your concern is unwarranted.

I agree your emotional condition. There is so much " preaching a bunch of sensational nonsense that doesn't bless anyone." My whole POINT is to read the Book of Revelation, and don't listen to anyone (including me). I am speaking truths that were given to me by the Holy Spirit. They will prove themselves so I don't have to ask anyone to believe.

I don't like making these posts, because the 4th seal horrifies me. I only do it so a few blessed readers will wakeup and repent before the judgment hammer falls. This whole world is turning into a piece of crap and my only hope is the Lord will return right on schedule to clean it up.

PS: I never bother with the mark because per the Book of Revelation it is clear to me when it will happen. I only answered your question about it because you quoted me.
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HEBREW AND GREEK WORDS MISTRANSLATED TO MEAN HELL
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Mistranslations of Sheol, Hades, Tartarus and Gehenna


In Chapter 15, we showed that the concept of ‘eternal punishment in hell' is an unbiblical pagan doctrine embraced and christianised by the Roman Catholic Church in the early centuries of Christianity, and made official when Jerome translated the Bible into Latin in 400 A.D.

Jerome mistranslated and misinterpreted several key Hebrew and Greek words into the Latin Vulgate in support of the already established doctrine of hell of the Roman Catholic Church. The Latin Vulgate, as translated by Jerome, had such an overpowering dominance for over a thousand years that many subsequent Bible versions, especially the King James Version (KJV), have simply carried forward the translation and interpretation errors to varying degrees in support of the doctrine of hell.

The doctrine of everlasting punishment in hell is founded upon a combination of mistranslations and misinterpretations of the following Hebrew and Greek words.

• Mistranslations of the Hebrew word sheol and the Greek words hades, tartarus and gehenna to mean hell.

• Mistranslations of the time-related Hebrew word owlam and the time-related Greek words aion and aionios to mean everlasting when relating to God’s future punishment of unbelievers.

In the next chapter, we shall deal with the mistranslations of owlam, aion and aionios. In this chapter, we deal with sheol, hades, tartarus and gehenna, which have been mistranslated to mean hell.

Hell is such an infinitely extreme and dreadfully fearful doctrine with respect to the fate of unbelievers, who are the vast majority of humanity, that surely God would have inspired clear, unambiguous statements about it in the Bible. Also, one would expect Bible translators, experts in the Hebrew and Greek languages, to be in complete agreement on how many times the word ‘hell’ occurs in the Bible. But the shocking fact is that the opposite is true.

When we examine how often the word ‘hell’ occurs in various versions of the Bible from the Latin Vulgate onwards, we are shocked to see how widely Bible translators differ in their opinion and understanding of the word ‘hell’, as demonstrated by the table below.

Number of times the word ‘Hell’ occurs in the following Bible Versions

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Please study this comparison table and note the following shocking facts.

You will note that the Latin Vulgate mentions hell 101 times, which is the highest number of times the word hell occurs when compared to all of the other Bible versions. Actually, the number of times hell occurs in the Latin Vulgate is even greater than 101 times, but for comparison purposes with the Protestant Bibles, we have not included the number of times hell occurs in the additional books of the Apocrypha contained in the Latin Vulgate.

All of the popular Protestant Bible versions like the King James Version (KJV), the American Standard Version (ASV), the New Revised Standard Version (NRSV), the New International Version (NIV) and the New King James Version (NKJV) do not agree with the Latin Vulgate nor between themselves as to the number of times the word hell appears in the Bible.

Only in the Latin Vulgate, the KJV and the NKJV does the word hell appear in the Old Testament of the Bible, but even these versions have wide disagreements on the number of times hell occurs in the Old Testament. The Latin Vulgate mentions hell 77 times, whereas the KJV mentions hell 31 times and the NKJV mentions hell only 19 times.

All versions of the Bible except for these three, the Latin Vulgate, the KJV and the NKJV, reject any notion of hell occurring in the original Hebrew Manuscripts of the Old Testament. Also, please especially note from the comparison table above that the translators of the Jewish Publication Society Bible and the Tanakh/The Complete Jewish Bible disagree with the Latin Vulgate, the KJV and the NKJV by making no mention of hell whatsoever in their Bibles. If the Jews, who are experts in their own language Hebrew, do not include hell in their Bibles, then this confirms that the word hell is a mistranslation of the Hebrew word sheol.

There are also several Bible versions that reject any notion of hell occurring in the original Greek Manuscripts of the New Testament of the Bible. Among others, these versions include Young’s Literal Translation and Rotherham’s Emphasized Bible.

These are amazing and shocking facts that should make any Christian stop in his tracks, and start seriously questioning the validity of the doctrine of hell. Surely, the just and loving God of the Bible, who desires and wills all men to be saved, would have inspired clear, unambiguous statements in the Word of God about such an extreme doctrine as hell. This is absolutely not the case at all, as we have demonstrated.

The truth of the matter is that there is not one single word in the original Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts of the Bible that means hell. As discussed in the previous chapter, Hell is a man-invented, pagan, unchristian, heretical belief that was first embraced and christianised by Roman Catholicism and incorporated into the Bible through the Latin Vulgate in the early history of Christianity. The Latin Vulgate reigned supreme for over a thousand years and the doctrine of hell became deeply entrenched into the psyche of the Christian world as if it were a true biblical doctrine. The King James Version (KJV) followed the Latin Vulgate in most of its translation errors and also mistranslated sheol, hades, tartarus and gehenna to mean hell.

The King James Version (KJV) published in 1611 was the only standard version of the Bible for English speaking Protestant Christians for nearly 350 years until the general acceptance of the Revised Standard Version (RSV) published in 1952. Therefore, the KJV has had a major influence on formulating the traditional Christian view of the doctrine of hell in Protestant Christianity.

In the original Hebrew Manuscripts, the Hebrew word sheol occurs 65 times in the Old Testament, and it means the grave (the place of the dead) or the pit, as correctly translated by the KJV in 34 out of the 65 times it occurs in the Old Testament. However, shockingly and without any justification whatsoever, the KJV translates sheol 31 out of the 65 times to mean hell. As we have seen from the comparison table, all translators of the Bible versions except those who translated the Latin Vulgate, the KJV and the NKJV reject the interpretation of the Hebrew word sheol to mean hell.

The Greek word hades occurs 11 times in the original Greek Manuscripts of the New Testament and it is the direct equivalent of the Hebrew word sheol, thus it also means the grave (the place of the dead) or the pit. Once again, the KJV translators have carried forward the errors of the Latin Vulgate by translating hades 10 times to mean hell, and only one time to mean the correct translation of the grave.

The Greek word tartarus occurs only once in the original manuscripts of the New Testament and it means a prison of spiritual darkness, which all fallen angels are confined to until their final judgement in the Lake of Fire, as explained in Chapter 13. Tartarus does not mean a place of eternal torment in hell for fallen angels. Translators of the KJV and some other versions of the Bible have erred once again by copying the mistakes of the Latin Vulgate in mistranslating tartarus to mean hell.

The Greek word gehenna occurs 12 times in the original manuscripts of the New Testament, and for each and every time gehenna occurs, it has been mistranslated to mean hell by the KJV translators, who yet again followed the errors made by Jerome in the Latin Vulgate. In addition, all of the popular versions of the English Bible like the NKJV and the NIV also fell into the same trap of mistranslating gehenna to mean hell. However, Young’s Literal Translation version and several other versions of the Bible have left gehenna untranslated as it appears in the original Greek manuscripts.

Let us be absolutely clear that Jesus Christ did not speak about hell. Jesus Christ spoke about gehenna, not hell. Bible translators have mistranslated and misinterpreted the Greek word gehenna to mean hell, a place of eternal punishment for all unbelievers.

We need to understand the spiritual significance of the Greek word gehenna, and why Jesus Christ used it to refer to God’s refining, yet merciful fiery judgement for all unbelievers when they are cast into the Lake of Fire, on the Great White Throne Judgement Day.

As explained in Chapter 12, the Lake of Fire represents both God’s physical and spiritual cleansing of the earth and its heaven (earth’s atmosphere) in the Lake of Fire Judgement Age. This is all in preparation for the Eternal Kingdom of God of the New Heaven and the New Earth. The literal fire will cleanse the earth physically by melting the elements, and God’s Spiritual Fire will cleanse the earth spiritually by consuming the dross, scum and filth of wickedness and unbelief from the hearts of all resurrected unbelievers and all fallen angels. The physical Lake of Fire will be an age-lasting fire and it will not be quenched until every unbeliever and every fallen angel has been refined and purified, and reconciled to God by God’s Spiritual Fire, which is of course, eternal and unquenchable.

In Chapter 18, Jesus Christ did not Teach Hell, we give further details on the meaning of gehenna and explain how Jesus’ words have been mistranslated and misinterpreted in support of the doctrine of hell.

The most important point we need to emphasise is that hell is an absolute mistranslation of the original Hebrew word sheol, and the Greek words hades, tartarus and gehenna. There is not a single word in any of the original Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts of the Bible that means hell, a place of everlasting punishment for unbelievers.
 Quoting: Sir.Kalin


All you liars going to hell for trying to make the father look like he is an idiot.I hope you remember to print this out and have it in your back pocket so you can make a fan to keep kool down there.

You better go learn to river dance because you will be on your toes down there




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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I seen hell, or what I like to call the underworld. I seen the demons, they were black, and had wings. They were all sleeping except one that was sitting up, waiting to get saved.

All these demons were us, our lower beings. These demons give us the negative emotions we feel today.

In reality part of us are already in hell, and another part of is in Heaven. So that explains the positive & negative emotions we feel.

We can't go higher without, lifting our lower self out of the underworld, to repent and heal together. Our higher self will then offer his hand to raise us up to him, to become one. Then we can be saved, by the Hand that God gave us, as it's his hand also. We are angels on this planet, that has the ability to save ourselves, when The Father sees fit, that our soul needs to move on.
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All you liars going to hell for trying to make the father look like he is an idiot.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Lol - instead of an unhinged pyromaniac

rolleyes

Why do you folks expect God to *fail* and resort to burning the evidence?
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All you liars going to hell for trying to make the father look like he is an idiot.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

Yep, people who say the Lord, the Father, the Holy Spirit, or Jesus told them something and they DID NOT, did not fare well in the Bible.

Especially in the book of Jeremiah, where the false prophets mislead the Jews so badly that only 4600 were saved out of a whole NATION !