HEBREW AND GREEK WORDS IN THE BIBLE MISTRANSLATED TO MEAN HELL

Then explain this:

Mark 9:43 "If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire,
Mark 9:44 where THEIR WORM DOES NOT DIE, AND THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED.

The greek word for "hell" is this context is "Gehenna" which was a literal place in the Valley of Hinnom south of Jerusalem.

It represents the worst possible combination of filth, dead bodies, decay, etc. Roughly translated into English is the equivalent term "hell".

The Analytical Greek Lexicon, Zondervan Publishing, 1976.

Here's a translation for you....

It's clear that you and everyone else who agrees with you are obviously very happy about this concept.

It essentially means "I can do whatever I want, and there is no punishment for my behavior." You are wrong.

It is very clear how things end, and latching on to some "new age" alternative is not going to change anything. You are only a human being. You do NOT control the fate of the world--only the fate of your own soul.

Fact or opinion?

3) “Gehenna” means a place of fire, brimstone, and punishment (see Matthew 5:22, 29, 30, described in Matthew 13:40-42, 2 Peter 3:7, 10-12). These flames are yet future, at the end of the world.
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I don't think I need to point out the fact that you didn't answer my question--it's obvious. You avoided it. What is so specifically offensive to you about Christianity? It is the ONLY religion you attack.

I visited the link you posted. The one who's ideas you are hanging on. The following link is their "argument" against the possibility of a hell:
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While they post some bible verses, it is mere speculation on their part. They provide NO PROOF whatsoever to backup their claims. Just simple, widely common human interpretation.

I would suggest looking here before continuing with your discussion:

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sorry op, but i am intent on hammering you.

God is love, and he loves all of his creation equally. doesnt matter if its angels or men.

rev.22:8-9, Now i, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed me these things. Then he said to me, "See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your bretheren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.

2 pet. 2:4, For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved untill judgement.

a prision for angels

located under the earth

a place of confinment for the angels untill the judgement. rev.20:11-15, jude 6

a place visited by Jesus when he went to hell. ps. 16:10, 1 pet. 3:19

a place of darkness

a place of eternal fire

a place of vengence

jude 6-7

these are the angels who left their heavenly habitation to persue lustful relationships with women. they are in hell/tartarus.

actually the whole chapter of 2 peter, 2 is noteworthy.

lets examine hell a little closer.

rev. 19:20, Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he decieved those who recieved the mark of the beast and those who worshipped his image. These two were cast ALIVE into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.

rev. 20:10, And the devil, who decieved them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet ARE. And THEY will be tormented forever and ever.

lets examine these two verses, remember, these two verses are actually separated by a 1000 plus years..... they are alive, in physical/mortal flesh. now look at the second verse, satan is thrown where the beast and false prophet ARE, not WERE. and THEY will be tormented forever, they is plural, meaning more than one. another thing, forever is another term for eternal.

feel good christianity is really trying to persuade people away from their faith. seems like a sign to me.

Galatians 1:6-9, I marvel that you are turning away so soon from him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As I have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches anyother gospel to you than what you have recieved, let him be accursed.

i myself am all for a friendly debate, i think it is wonderful to discuss Gods word, it makes you examine yourself, find the faults and then make adjustments to become a better follower of Jesus. however, one must figure out the fine lines between stressing a point and preaching a teaching.

You have pointed that far too many verses in the Bible that do tell of a place of eternal separation from God that ALL men and women are headed to, UNLESS they rely on the finished work of Christ on the cross for their salvation. We are/were all headed there, but Yeshua stepped into time and opened the door of salvation, himself, for any that would hear his voice and walk through.....

Does the Bible give an example of what Eternal Fire judgement is? Yes it does and it is clear that it is an example


Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire

Jude 1:7
Nothing survives if God punishes it (or them) with eternal fire, to think that it will be forever and you will still survive despite being Judged by eternal fire is really stupid.
Just ask Sodom and Gomorrha, oh wait you can't, because they have received eternal fire judgment and no longer exist. Nor will they ever exist again
It is eternal extinction. There you have it direct from the Bible. This is from the Bible and should end the stupid idea of eternal burning. Gods eternal fire consumes totally.

Does the Bible give an example of what Eternal Fire judgement is? Yes it does and it is clear that it is an example


Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire

Jude 1:7
Nothing survives if God punishes it (or them) with eternal fire, to think that it will be forever and you will still survive despite being Judged by eternal fire is really stupid.
Just ask Sodom and Gomorrha, oh wait you can't, because they have received eternal fire judgment and no longer exist. Nor will they ever exist again
It is eternal extinction. There you have it direct from the Bible. This is from the Bible and should end the stupid idea of eternal burning. Gods eternal fire consumes totally.

A Blemish and a Stain

5/6/11 From The Lord, Our God and Savior - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear - Regarding a Request for Funds for an Evangelist Meeting in India


Thus says The Lord: I have nourished and brought up many children... Yet the nourishment of men I despise, and the doctrines of men I do hate...

Therefore, concerning fellowship among the teachers: It is well and good in My eyes. Yet the doctrines of the churches of this world have crept into every corner. Whether near or far, the doctrine of hell and eternal torment is spoken of widely among My people... This doctrine, of which I loathe with a passion and detest in My zeal. For by it is the name of The Lord polluted, and the glory of My majesty covered over with lies and darkness.
It is a loathsome spot on every garment worn in the name of truth, a detestable wrinkle upon the tapestry of glory... A horrible, interwoven thread. This doctrine is evil, and I will not tolerate it to any degree, for I am The Lord, The Light in which there can be no darkness!... For I shall destroy it utterly, in the day My glory is revealed!

Therefore, if you assemble, then this doctrine must be opposed by those of the truth, those who believe and know it is I who has spoken to this generation, even as it was I who had spoken in all times past to the men of Israel, even as it is this day among those whom I have chosen, of whom I am known... All veils removed from the faces of My messengers.

Therefore, My servants shall contribute no more to this cause, nor shall continued aid be given for this meeting... For it is and has been My will from the beginning, that all which My little flock gives is to be used for My cause, in the declaration of the Gospel in My name, spreading forth the knowledge of Messiah’s passion from village to village before I gather... And that the tithes and offerings of My people aid the poor and the needy, and feed and clothe the little ones, of whom I love.

Therefore let those who have received, pray... And use what I have given them wisely, in fulfilling My just cause. I am The Lord.


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this life is as close to the idea of hell as I ever intend to get

run by satanists since the beginning with the lot of them in cahoots with the world religions, also from the beginning

a true Christian won't be found supporting ANY of the world religious institutions

guarantee you this

the Elect would know better than to tithe in such places whereby they are held complicit for the false teachings being spread with their offerings

that's as bad as working for satan right up front even tho it's an error of stupidity


Very insightful IMHO. Thanks.

Figured it out already

But endless suffering refers to souls endlessly reincarnating in the same physical form because they have not learnt their lesson to progress higher

It's like repeating the third grade forever, that would be HELL