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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1104102 Turkey 03/04/2011 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe an animal can definitely die of a broken heart! Dogs, cats, horses and birds...... Quoting: Dried Up HagWhen I was young, my family had a pair of strawberry finches. The female was always scooting her mate off of the stick they both sat on. We had the pair for years. The female sang all the time, it was so pretty to hear. One day, while my sister was cleaning the cage, the birds got out and flew out an open door. My dad made a trap out in the back yard to catch them. He was able to catch the female, but not the male. He tried for several days, to no avail. The female became so despondant that she stopped singing entirely. Shortly thereafter she passed away. I always believed it was because she pined for her companion..... are you sure it wasn't the fjords |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1284254 United States 03/04/2011 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | according to the bible, no. animals do not have souls, thus they can not have feelings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68945dont believe me? read your bible. What a great way to also reinforce the believe that all animals are put here to be used/abused by humans. Some of the biggest abusers of pets and animals I know, are also huge bible thumpers. Again, I repeat what a great brain washing tool that allows those abusers to justify their actions. But the bible says.... |
antikythera User ID: 1030102 United States 03/04/2011 08:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | according to the bible, no. animals do not have souls, thus they can not have feelings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68945dont believe me? read your bible. Nice twisted religion you got there. The wolves among you will devour the sheep. :orbsig: :ninjalapirate: Art Homepage, [link to pondcypress.deviantart.com] Hand carved skull and cross available for purchase, [link to www.artfire.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 910164 Germany 03/04/2011 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about cats? Can a cat die of a broken heart? Any stories of cats pining away for their owners? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284024the cat Forget quickly and it's so independent even it love its owner.. There was Real story, about a camel who was killed a son of bedouin man in the desert by mistake.. , this camel has a little Baby , the man was so angry and crazy , so he killed it's baby in front of it . the mother when saw that squeak immediately, and died at the same moment .. this man take the mother and slain it to eat ,he found it's liver very dark almost black not like any ather camel how saw in his entire life... Very sad but very true... my grandfather told us this sad story... So, how does Camel taste? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 910164 Germany 03/04/2011 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | according to the bible, no. animals do not have souls, thus they can not have feelings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68945dont believe me? read your bible. I read my bible, but animals even though they dont have souls, have feelings, maybe even a spirit. Look into their eyes, there is something there. They feel fear and anxiety and show love and gratefulness. |
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Mikewithgod User ID: 1284253 United States 03/04/2011 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had a dog(German Shepard) that I grew up with, We had to move to United States and my parents wouldn't take the dog, it started crying and howling on the day we were leaving and within a week it died, it was depressed and didn't eat or drink anything. So yeah I think dogs can die from a broken heart. |
Whispering Breeze User ID: 1199093 United States 03/04/2011 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our dog does a little mini version of that every time my husband leaves the house. Even if just to run to the store. She mopes, and then when she sees or hears him coming to the door she barks, and runs around, jumps all over him. And that is just when he walks out to get the mail. But when he traveled for work she would barely function. |
Dried Up Hag User ID: 1281016 United States 03/04/2011 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ecclesiastes 3:18 - 21 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1145382 United States 03/04/2011 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When my Papa, ( Grandfather ), passed away his Dog was so distraut , he climbed up in the pump house and stayed there till he passed on himself. He never would eat the food offered to him. He decided if my Papa wasn't going to be around , he had no interest in sticking around neither. So I say YES ... a Dog CAN die of a broken heart. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1125314That's dying of starvation, not a broken heart. Starvation induced by a broken heart. I've known animals of many species to grieve themselves to death after the loss of a loved one. Recently one of my dogs passed away and the other one was so distraut nothing we did would comfort her, and she slowly slipped away on us. Yes, I know a dog who was put in a kennel for a couple of weeks who starved himself (wouldn't drink water either). I guess he thought his owner wasn't coming back. The owner died of a heart attack a few months later. People can die of a broken heart too. |
Dried Up Hag User ID: 1281016 United States 03/04/2011 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ecclesiastes 3:18 - 21 Quoting: Dried Up HagI said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? Sorry - I thumped my bible and this fell out.....I'm not so quick to say what animals have and what they don't. Only God knows......I myself believe there is way more to them than what people can perceive. |
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Whispering Breeze User ID: 1199093 United States 03/04/2011 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's not an interesting question. An interesting question would be "can a cat die of a broken heart"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277136I am not saying they don't form strong bonds. But in the wild the wolves work as a pack, and so it is in their genetic makeup to stick together, and bond. Cats in the wild with the exception of African Lions I believe work alone. They only bond with their offspring really, and even they go off on their own. As I say, the exception being Lions. If you recall that video about the pet lion that was released back into the wild and after some time still recognized and greeted his owner. So I think the bond is just different. Not as intense with cats. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1179734 United States 03/04/2011 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My good friend passed away a year ago this Sunday, he was young and it happened quickly with little warning. His beloved dog was dead in three weeks following it.... My grandfather's horse also dropped dead about two weeks after his death... They are our companions in life and death |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1179734 United States 03/04/2011 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had a dog(German Shepard) that I grew up with, We had to move to United States and my parents wouldn't take the dog, it started crying and howling on the day we were leaving and within a week it died, it was depressed and didn't eat or drink anything. So yeah I think dogs can die from a broken heart. Quoting: MikewithgodThis is so sad :( The dog I spoke about was also a German Shepard....I think the are special dogs |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1283178 Slovakia 03/04/2011 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | according to the bible, no. animals do not have souls, thus they can not have feelings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68945dont believe me? read your bible. where tf is it? I had read the Bible and from time to time I look in it, and I never read anything there claiming animals have no soul. I am convinced they do, I had the opportunity to make sure. Can you give me a hint which paragraph claims that animals are soulless? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 894431 United States 03/04/2011 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would say definitely yes. Quoting: Emerge~n~SeeAnd so can a Cat, and so can a Human for that matter. My Dad's cat who had never been sick a day in his life, began moping and died within weeks of my Dad's passing. Also my Uncle died less than one month after my Aunt who he had been married to for decades.... attachments like that run deep. Also after my one Cat got hit by a car, my other Cat fell into a deep depression and then went into kidney failure because of the shock and grief and lack of eating. I took him to the vet and the vet treated him and put him on a 48 hr death watch. My Cat's pulse had slowed so much his body temp had fallen to 96, when a Cat's normal body temp is 101 .... His heart was shutting down ! I begged Toby to stay and opened a capsule of cayenne pepper, mixed with water and squirted it into his mouth with an eyedropper ( I had read a story of a Doc who had resuscitated a man in the midst of heart seizure by putting drops of cayenne extract under his tongue and the man recovered ! Cayenne is a POWERFUL Heart tonic) I then squirted some water in his mouth too, Toby briefly gagged, then gave a big sigh as if to say "OK, OK, I will Live since you want it so much...!" and I was then blessed to have him until his 16th year ~ Cayenne Pepper RAWKS !!! * P.S. It's very dark and hard to see so most people can't notice it, but there is a dog in my Avatar,facing forward to the left side of the Woman, she has her left hand around his head, just thought this would be a good time to mention that ! Love it |
tkwasny User ID: 1135294 United States 03/04/2011 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | according to the bible, no. animals do not have souls, thus they can not have feelings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68945dont believe me? read your bible. where tf is it? I had read the Bible and from time to time I look in it, and I never read anything there claiming animals have no soul. I am convinced they do, I had the opportunity to make sure. Can you give me a hint which paragraph claims that animals are soulless? If a creature: 1. Shows evidence of the ability to dream, they have levels of consciousness higher than a mineral. 2. The current of time impacts them out from the future, as it does us and all that is animate and inanimate, then they lay a recording into spacetime that is into the past. That recording is your Book of Life, their Book of Life, etc. It's about science. Time is a material. Just because it's the past, and contains no spacial characteristics, being pure time, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It only means our puny brains that REQUIRE BOTH space and time to process them to verify existence, is our problem not reality's problem. |
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Godsontoo User ID: 1258525 United States 03/04/2011 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally I prefer cats, but this is an amazing true story.. Quoting: Cool for cats 1283450There is no doubt that a DOG can have a broken heart they can and most times are the most faithful animal that GOD has given us and it is no mistake DOG is God in reverse. God is always faithful to us also. If you go back to the original Hebrew in the book of Genesis chapter 1 when he Created these animals. That word is the same used for man denoting he has a soul. We can deduce that God gave some animals souls from this and DOG is most certainly one of them. Scripture also talks of many other animals that will be with us in the after life . In this world all animals will eat hay pf the earth no more flesh. In short lots of animals have feelings and experience both love and sadness. God the father loves all his creations. A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. †. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 828523 United States 03/04/2011 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | according to the bible, no. animals do not have souls, thus they can not have feelings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68945dont believe me? read your bible. where tf is it? I had read the Bible and from time to time I look in it, and I never read anything there claiming animals have no soul. I am convinced they do, I had the opportunity to make sure. Can you give me a hint which paragraph claims that animals are soulless? here you go: But does animal intelligence constitute a soul? Does a pet’s emotions and ability to relate to human beings mean that animals possess an immortal spirit that will survive after death? Theologians say no. They point out that man was created superior to animals and that animals can’t be equal with him. Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (Genesis 1:26, NIV) Most interpreters of the Bible assume that man’s likeness to God and animals’ subservience to man implies that animals may have the "breath of life," nephesh in Hebrew, but not an immortal soul in the same sense as man’s. Later in Genesis we read that by God’s command, Adam and Eve were vegetarians. There is no mention that they ate animal flesh: And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden, but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die." (Genesis 2:16-17, NIV) After the flood, God gave Noah and his sons permission to kill and eat animals: "Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything." (Genesis 9:3, NIV) God prohibited the killing of man ("You shall not murder," Exodus 20:13) but he placed no such restriction on the killing of animals. Man is made in God’s image, so man must not kill one of his own kind. Animals, it would seem, are different from man. If they do have a "soul" that survives death, it is different from man’s. It does not need redemption. Christ died to save the souls of human beings, not animals. so no virginia, animals do not have souls, can not feel or die of a broken heart. to believe so would mean you believe gays are born that way and women should have careers. all of that goes against the bible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1179734 United States 03/04/2011 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | according to the bible, no. animals do not have souls, thus they can not have feelings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68945dont believe me? read your bible. where tf is it? I had read the Bible and from time to time I look in it, and I never read anything there claiming animals have no soul. I am convinced they do, I had the opportunity to make sure. Can you give me a hint which paragraph claims that animals are soulless? so no virginia, animals do not have souls, can not feel or die of a broken heart. to believe so would mean you believe gays are born that way and women should have careers. all of that goes against the bible. Fuckin' haters... |
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