Walid Shoebat is WRONG about "mark of the beast"

With all the studying I have done over the yearshe issue of 666 I could not have explained it as well as you did! Excellent post for those NOT in the know.

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walid shoebat was exactly right...THERE WILL BE NO MICROCHIPPING OF HUMANS....TRUST ME....THAT IS NOT THE MARK OF THE BEAST...THATS THE BIGGEST LIE EVER.

if we have not figured it out yet then its pretty much too late...billions of people are going to be shocked at the things that are about to take place

i guess i have said enough...no one would probably listen anyway...the truth is right under our nose.

There will be no microchipping of humans you say!?
Shoebat is right you say!?

LOL!!!

I think you need to read this article. It legitimizes my original post, and mentions RFID. Here read this...

[link to www.eetimes.com]

The word "mark" comes from the Greek word P"D"(:" - charagma - which means: a scratch, etching or stamp (as a badge of servitude);1 a stamp that was once used on deeds of sale and similar documents that contained the name and regnal year of the emperor.

This thread caught my eye because I have Walid Shoebat's book. There are a few things I agree with, like the importance to Islam of the re-establishment of the Caliphate. I think he is sorely out-to-lunch on this issue though.

The "mark" itself does not need to be a transactional device. The mark can just be a method of identification with the Beast. Let's say someone wanted to go to the store, and they had acceptable payment, the mark could just be the "gateway" allowing the transaction to be completed. It might just be a symbol of ownership, tattooed on the body. Here's the thing, if by some chance electronics are fried due to solar flares and there is no power, a simple mark would do fine to show loyalty.

I'm not saying you are wrong. You provided a very important piece of information. Thank you.

come on bro...lets be honest...we need to use common sense. anybody can write an article about their view on things.
but believe what you must...im just making a statement.
and the "so called" mark of the beast is a spiritual mark.(meaning those that have it wont even know until it is reveal to them)
they will be utterly shocked when they discover they have given themselves to the "so called" beast.
i wish i could explain more, but i dont want to start a big debate over this...take care bro!

is it a mark of slavery, ownership, and sin as manifest in thoughts and deeds? It is a mark which great or small are forced to accept if they want to work to make money to buy food. The mark intoxicates and implicates all who partake in a cup of blood of innocents. It is the mark of a vast empire, and it is 666, which any Christian familiar with their history will tell you was definitely code for Nero who martyred the early Christians in an attempt by the devil to crush the infant Church before it could spread. Nero made Christianity illegal and forced citizens to burn incense(prayer/worship)to a statue and likeness of him, and horrendously tortured, persecuted, and murdered dissidents who refused to offer absolute allegiance to the Caesar. Render unto Caesar was belongs to Caesar; to God what belongs to God. The anti-super naturalism, inherent relativism, and general godlessness as propagated and manifested by mainstream culture, which I define below, is impressed upon the mind and deed of those on the wide road.

I think the SSN is a candidate for the mark as it is compulsory, and implicates every one of us in the culpability of untold 'innocent' lives who have been sacrificed upon the altars of 'democracy', 'free-markets', 'profit', and control. And the many that consist of the mainstream culture are being seduced into snares by the conduits of sin and blasphemy like liberal public education, mass media, popular press, and popular culture. If it not the mark, which i gravely suspect it is, then it is a precursor to it, and this suggests that their will be a new Nero, so besides the godless mainstream media, which has given us a neo-pagan state, as moral decay always precedes collapse, it makes us easier to conquer, who else could this beast be with the spirit of the antichrist, who murders the innocent and oppresses and persecutes the Church? Ill give you a hint, it is a dragon, but if you still can't guess it is China who the Western World is in bed with, which is a compromise of the values we profess to hold dear. Just my thoughts

Oh, and btw, only God can save us, and there will be no heaven on earth for all the proud and lofty humanists, as you have lead many to deny the Supreme Living God, of Heaven, and Earth, who is Lord of All, and has shown us His light, life, power, authority, wisdom, truth, love, compassion, mercy, grace, and patience, as Revealed in Jesus who is the Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, the Word Made Flesh, Immanuel! He has shown us the way, and how much it is that He loves us, even in spite of our sins, that He offers us the hope of sharing in His resurrection by understanding this love made manifest in His passion, sorrow, suffering, unjust persecution, and Crucifixion, that if we understood His Love, and His Infinite Benevolence, then we would respond with love, and humility, and sorrow, for how unworthy are we? We have sinned against such an Awesome God and still He has made it possible for us to be reconciled to Him, through the blood of Christ, which is an inconceivably generous gift that none of us can afford, it is a gift, as God is all that is good and perfect, but what have we done, and what has the world done with this gift? If we believe in Him then we will understand His love, as manifest by His Incarnation, Humility, Obedience, Suffering, and Crucifixion, if we understand this love how can we do anything but cease to do that which is against Him? I hope and pray in the name of Jesus that through the working of the Holy Spirit, and the tilling of the heart, that these seeds would fall upon fertile soil, and not upon barren land. For the praise and glory of His name! Amen!

Youre right about Jesus, but youre wrong about the mark of the beast.

nothing to worry about then, since "RFID carbon chips" aren't invented yet.

Okay, so you're rebuttal is that you are too stupid to understand?

HAHA! Works for me! In fact I agree with you wholeheartedly!

Let me add that yes Satan is more cunning than that. So cunning in fact that he made absolutely sure that there could be confusion regarding the correct translation!

So, once again. You are wrong.

I can't see any other group other than Islam that chooses beheading as the manner of death. That is for all infidels.

I also think the the "mark" is more like a badge, when you look at the word in the orginal greek and the vision only the middle letter is a wee bit off. If you tilt that letter to it's side it is for Islam. They have it represented straight up and on it's side.

INO.

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Yes it is oh Anonymous bi-pedal carbon based life form, yes it is...

The Apocalypse Unsealed
James M. Pryse,


The purpose of this book is to show that the Apocalypse is a manual of spiritual development and not, as conventionally interpreted, a cryptic history or prophecy. In the following pages the reader will find the complete solution of the Apocalyptic enigma, with ample proof of the correctness of that solution. As the subject dealt with in the work is, however, familiar to only a comparatively few special students of the sacred science, which to the many has ever been a sealed book, the exposition here given is put in the form of an elementary treatise. If it were written for the few, it would have been expanded to great bulk; but as it is intended for the many, the author has kept within the limits of a small volume, avoiding everything mystical, scholastic and controversial, using plain, concise language, and employing technical terms only when they are required by the nature of the subject


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It was speculation, it may have more to do with what we believe/doctrine; does the new paganism have anything to do with it?

lol, you serious?? fail thread.

This is what I think it will be.........


INVISIBLE BARCODE TATTOOS!!!!


My own gut feeling!!

I have seen both explanations and here is what I know.
I'm not converting to Islam or allowing myself to get implanted.

The best defense is coming to Christ and believing on Him. If you are an actual born again christian then you belong to Jesus, and there isn't any chip or conversion that is going to change that.

Chris is King

Islam is the mark of the beast the NWO to come..

This is what I think it will be.........


INVISIBLE BARCODE TATTOOS!!!!


My own gut feeling!!


Yes and no.

It will probably be a tattoo, but it wont be a simple barcode. It will be a tatto using carbon nanotube RFID ink, and I'm not just speculating. They are working on the technology right now as we speak in Korea. Here is a link...

[link to www.technologyreview.com]

first for medical reasons, and then after for ID reasons.

Here read this...

[link to news.cnet.com]

Sure they would never "convert". But how many would wear a badge just to get what they need and say "God knows my heart, I need to buy food or sell my stuff". All while wearing something that says Allah is god...doesn't mean you are converting. But yea, God does know your heart, He knows that you betrayed Him. I think you are holding a lot of "jewish people" and "Christians" to a little too high of a standard. Most of them are pretty flaky as it is when it comes to spirituality. It's not a real relationship with the Lord.

Sorry, but as much of a lie Islam is, its not the mark of the beast. Islam is a lie, and so is it being the mark of the beast.

The bible is specific about what the mark of the beast is. Very specific. So specific in fact that John was given many clues as to what it is.

1. You cannot buy or sell without it

2. It will be forced upon EVERYONE (nobody will be excluded)

3. It will be a mark on your hand or forhead

4. It is man's number

6. That number is 666

Only one thing fits ALL of the above criteria and it isnt a piece of cloth paying tribute to Islam. It has to be made from carbon nanotubes for it to be "man's number" and it has to be made from carbon nanotubes for it to fit into the number 666. The atomic number for carbon is 6. That means it has 6 protons, 6 nuetrons, and 6 electrons. Carbon nanotubes are made of carbon atoms formed into chains of 6 sided hexagons repeating itself over and over until it takes the shape of a whole carbon nanotube which resembels a man's penis (man's number). Here is a picture of a man holding a model of a carbon nanotube...

[link to www.google.com]

666 is the number representing the carbon nanotube transistor.

The mark of the beast will be some form of this...

[link to news.cnet.com]

...except instead of just being used for medical purposes, it will also be used for buying and selling, and ID.

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6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 6 electrons is not the same as the number in the bible, 666.

Yes it is.