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So I'm trying to find some answers to some Biblical questions, hoping you guys could help me out...

First of all, did God create mankind as a whole (many men and women) on the 6th Day of Creation, then create Adam and Eve separately later? Or is the second creation account a more elaborate detailing of the first?

Secondly, as per the "Serpent Seedline/Satanic Race" discussion: If Lucifer is the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil whose fruit is not to be "eaten" or "known," who or what is the "Tree of Life?"

Thanks in advance for the help!
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Thread: Satan's Seedline Pt1... Aliens, Reptilians, Hybrid, Nephilim
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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The bible is very specific about the fact that Adam and Eve were created 6,000 years ago, as it gives their genealogy.

This is why creationists claim that the earth was created 6,000 years ago. The Bible however does not say this anywhere. The fight between creationism and evolution has been falsely created to mislead the stupid.

The Hebrew word for day is "yom" and although it means day, it also means "era"

If you were to say in Hebrew that the earth was created in six days, you would say the earth was created in six "Yom"
BUT If you were to say that the earth was created over six eras, you would also say that the earth was created over six "yom"

Furthermore the trees in the garden of Eden are simbolism for nations. The Bible often makes use of trees to simbolise nations/people.

For example:

Ezekiel 31:9
I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.

Ezekiel 31:16
I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

Ezekiel 31:18
To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden? yet shalt thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the nether parts of the earth: thou shalt lie in the midst of the uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword. This is Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord GOD.


Israel is called the fig tree in many different places.
The Seder of Lebanon.

Search for the truth and you'll find it.

Read Gen 1 ad you'll see where God created man. God rests on the seventh day which is described at the end of Gen 1. He rests and only after that does he create Adam.

Adam and Eve were thus created on the eight day.
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The bible is very specific about the fact that Adam and Eve were created 6,000 years ago, as it gives their genealogy.

This is why creationists claim that the earth was created 6,000 years ago. The Bible however does not say this anywhere. The fight between creationism and evolution has been falsely created to mislead the stupid.

The Hebrew word for day is "yom" and although it means day, it also means "era"

If you were to say in Hebrew that the earth was created in six days, you would say the earth was created in six "Yom"
BUT If you were to say that the earth was created over six eras, you would also say that the earth was created over six "yom"

Furthermore the trees in the garden of Eden are simbolism for nations. The Bible often makes use of trees to simbolise nations/people.

For example:

Ezekiel 31:9
I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.

Ezekiel 31:16
I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

Ezekiel 31:18
To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden? yet shalt thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the nether parts of the earth: thou shalt lie in the midst of the uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword. This is Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord GOD.


Israel is called the fig tree in many different places.
The Seder of Lebanon.

Search for the truth and you'll find it.

Read Gen 1 ad you'll see where God created man. God rests on the seventh day which is described at the end of Gen 1. He rests and only after that does he create Adam.

Adam and Eve were thus created on the eight day.
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So Adam and Eve were created separately from the rest of mankind? Why?


Gen 1:
3 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
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Genesis 2:
4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the LORD God made the earth and the heavens.
5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth[a] and no plant had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 The LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
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So I'm trying to find some answers to some Biblical questions, hoping you guys could help me out...

First of all, did God create mankind as a whole (many men and women) on the 6th Day of Creation, then create Adam and Eve separately later? Or is the second creation account a more elaborate detailing of the first?

Secondly, as per the "Serpent Seedline/Satanic Race" discussion: If Lucifer is the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil whose fruit is not to be "eaten" or "known," who or what is the "Tree of Life?"

Thanks in advance for the help!
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even though Old Testament is Hebrew, lets use Greek to shed light..

Ophis is Greek for serpent
Optometry is Greek for the study of the eyes

The Serpent used Gnosis or Knowledge to open our eyes.
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So I'm trying to find some answers to some Biblical questions, hoping you guys could help me out...

First of all, did God create mankind as a whole (many men and women) on the 6th Day of Creation, then create Adam and Eve separately later? Or is the second creation account a more elaborate detailing of the first?

Secondly, as per the "Serpent Seedline/Satanic Race" discussion: If Lucifer is the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil whose fruit is not to be "eaten" or "known," who or what is the "Tree of Life?"

Thanks in advance for the help!
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just some things that helped me ....


read Enoch and google pre adamites people


the 6 day creation is not literal 6 days... could be thousands and millions of years


Satan - the fallen angels (read Enoch) are the tree of knowledge of good and evil ...they knew good but turned on yahweh ...now know evil

satan means adversary ... opponent of God - Nachash was the serpents name ... was not a literal snake


race mixing with these peoples were forbidden !
race mixing is the great evil ... it destroys Yahweh's creation ...


God had special creation of Adam man .... man (2 legged) was here already ..but adam man was special creation ..he needed a tiller of the ground = a farmer


Adam and eve were not to mix with the "other peoples' the fallen angel people



the tree of life - is the family tree = geneology

Jesus' family tree ... his seed line (his family) the adamites

not all people are adamites
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even though Old Testament is Hebrew, lets use Greek to shed light..

Ophis is Greek for serpent
Optometry is Greek for the study of the eyes

The Serpent used Gnosis or Knowledge to open our eyes.


I know what is said about the Serpent and knowledge.
Can you please elaborate?

Also, any theories on what the Tree of Life would be in the Serpent Seedline scenario?
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WE ARE THE CHILD BEING BORN. WE ARE THE SPECIAL CREATION,,COLLECTIVE AWARENESS APES.
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So I'm trying to find some answers to some Biblical questions, hoping you guys could help me out...

First of all, did God create mankind as a whole (many men and women) on the 6th Day of Creation, then create Adam and Eve separately later? Or is the second creation account a more elaborate detailing of the first?

Secondly, as per the "Serpent Seedline/Satanic Race" discussion: If Lucifer is the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil whose fruit is not to be "eaten" or "known," who or what is the "Tree of Life?"

Thanks in advance for the help!
 Quoting: adx 1281646


just some things that helped me ....


read Enoch and google pre adamites people


the 6 day creation is not literal 6 days... could be thousands and millions of years


Satan - the fallen angels (read Enoch) are the tree of knowledge of good and evil ...they knew good but turned on yahweh ...now know evil

satan means adversary ... opponent of God - Nachash was the serpents name ... was not a literal snake


race mixing with these peoples were forbidden !
race mixing is the great evil ... it destroys Yahweh's creation ...


God had special creation of Adam man .... man (2 legged) was here already ..but adam man was special creation ..he needed a tiller of the ground = a farmer


Adam and eve were not to mix with the "other peoples' the fallen angel people



the tree of life - is the family tree = geneology

Jesus' family tree ... his seed line (his family) the adamites

not all people are adamites
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First of all, thanks for the help. I will definitely check out Enoch and pre-Adamites.
However, what I'm getting stuck on is that God simply created Adam to till or farm the ground. There has to be more to it.
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The 'sixth day' people were Neandrethals...and were missing our gene for 'language'. They existed a LONG time before Adam and Eve arrived, to 'tend the garden'. Neandrethals were simple hunter/gatherers...Adam's DNA took it up a notch. Notice how God enjoyed 'hearing' what Adam would 'call' the animals....

Gen 2:19 Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name.

Also, how could Cain 'take a wife in Nod'...where did SHE come from?
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The 'sixth day' people were Neandrethals...and were missing our gene for 'language'. They existed a LONG time before Adam and Eve arrived, to 'tend the garden'. Neandrethals were simple hunter/gatherers...Adam's DNA took it up a notch. Notice how God enjoyed 'hearing' what Adam would 'call' the animals....

Gen 2:19 Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name.

Also, how could Cain 'take a wife in Nod'...where did SHE come from?
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Yes, Neanderthals couldnt say vowel sounds, Hebrew was written without the vowels.
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A Neandrethal wife wouldn't do for Adam...thus, Eve was created for him...

Gen 2:20 So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper 'comparable' to him.
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even though Old Testament is Hebrew, lets use Greek to shed light..

Ophis is Greek for serpent
Optometry is Greek for the study of the eyes

The Serpent used Gnosis or Knowledge to open our eyes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1281646


I know what is said about the Serpent and knowledge.
Can you please elaborate?

Also, any theories on what the Tree of Life would be in the Serpent Seedline scenario?





Gnosis, higher knowledge..

the one known as Lucifer was part of the Elohim group, Its like us humans a few thousand years from now. They were going to take their time with humanity.. and do it carefully and slowly..

Lucifer however seduced one of the human creations and Eve had Cain,

Cain is not Adams child,

Cain went off to do metalworking and build cities and forge tools. Him and his descendants cause of the HIGHER GNOSIS or intelligence...

We've seen where technology goes, Like matchsticks given to monkeys, or higher monkeys, excuse me, we can eventually blow ourselves up if we werent deserving of it yet.
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1 “But now they mock me,
men younger than I,
whose fathers I would have disdained
to put with my sheep dogs.
2 Of what use was the strength of their hands to me,
since their vigor had gone from them?
3 Haggard from want and hunger,
they roamed[a] the parched land
in desolate wastelands at night.
4 In the brush they gathered salt herbs,
and their food was the root of the broom bush.
5 They were banished from human society,
shouted at as if they were thieves.
6 They were forced to live in the dry stream beds,
among the rocks and in holes in the ground.
7 They brayed among the bushes
and huddled in the undergrowth.
8 A base and nameless brood,
they were driven out of the land.
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But its ok, Most Bloodlines by now are mixed anyways...The only thing to do is build peace on earth and love and light. We have to forgive.

Hence the Cross of Lorraine


Cross of Lorraine

The arms of Jesus are the Cross of Lorraine,
Both the blood in the artery and the blood in the vein,
Both the source of grace and the clear fountaine;

The arms of Satan are the Cross of Lorraine,
And the same artery and the same vein,
And the same blood and the troubled fountaine.”


by Charles Peguy
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A Neandrethal wife wouldn't do for Adam...thus, Eve was created for him...

Gen 2:20 So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper 'comparable' to him.
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Yes, there was many additions to the Genetic Creation, However the Serpents seduction changed everything too drasticallly and rapidly
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dead please do it together and not with someone else when you have eachother.
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How were Adam and Eve expected to understand the concept of 'death'...having been created as 'adilts'? God told Adam if he ate of the tree, he would surely die? Spiritual death and physical death...both would seem diffucult to comprehend, considering their 'sheltered environment'.

Satan took advantage of this 'lack of knowledge' and used it against them. Sound familiar?
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adx, if you register on GLP, I can send you something, or you can check out my blog, link in sig

Anyone is welcome to join.
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jezus man , finaly the great explenation and nah shut up. :/

strange
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jezus man , finaly the great explenation and nah shut up. :/

strange
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I guess I left everyone speechless.

lol
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Shamar & some of you others are all very much on track with things imho. And that link above also has very good discussion on this topic so do check it out.

To the newbies: please be careful about everything you come across < all sources> as nothing much is "pure" these days except for the really ancient stuff that has come from places like the caves of the Himalayas or original materials & teachings sourced from Tibet, Bhutan, Inca-Mayan regions, etc (re Tibet .... Tibet is now under the control of that d'evil-beast bunch holed up in China & now trying hard to assimilate the rest of us along w/ their NWO cronies!).

It is now well-documented that there has been thousands of years of deliberate deceptions, distortions, manipulations, & so on regarding the true history of this planet and who/what we are (& the others hanging out around these parts = the entities "occupants" residing herein ) ---> and the same is also the case regarding the true origins & nature of this particular reality (hologram matrix w/ X-box brain receivers gluing us into it so we are totally immersed in something that seems real ('solid') but is actually all just energies that equate to nothingness).

It is vital that we not assume anything about any "thing" and to maintain vigilance so as to question all & keep open minds = think outside the freakin' box!!

One that seeks must make it a soul-quest of many years (... like a lifetime) so to root out all that which has been confounded, obscured, and even traces of that which has been obliterated from physical records and humankind's memory. Know that some of us were born, like on an assigned mission) with this soul-purpose and have always been at work on the quest to help liberate all sentient consciousness (= human/e/ity) since earliest childhood days. It is an effort that requires study in all the classic fields: all sciences - all forms of history, ancient societies & belief systems + mythologies + religions, astronomy, archeology, anthropology, metaphysics, etc ---> very long list. And such a person feels intense purpose ... a willingness to persevere, to determinedly explore and study intensely in all of these things... to peer into the deepest past possible so as to unravel the tangled roots of truth then bring it forth in a manner such to stimulate the collective awakening that will lead to liberation & enlightenment/ascension of this entire physicality realm.

People must keep in mind that the current form of the Bible is actually a remnant historical record that was compiled from many various sources of unrelated texts found in different areas of the Middle East --- and it is a very much manipulated and carefully structured compilation. There were thousands more of such scrolls & ancient sources that were not "allowed" into the final compilation due to political & esoteric reasons (= power politics by a ruling elite/DNA class over other beings that have purposefully been kept under tight control & delusional enslavement for nefarious purposes).

Switching gears .... those really wanting alternative perspectives should explore some of the really great researchers/ teachers/ investigators --- mythology, ancient religions + cultures, alternative sciences, metaphysics, etc - a long list! Here are few names . books, sites to look up & some have excellent material on YouTube.

#1 favorite = DAN WINTER ... his understanding & collection of works regarding the ancient past is beyond comparison, especially concerning the remnant evidence regarding the races of serpent kings in ancient cultures and how all this interrelates with current world of the elite DNA classes that still have upper-crust lives & use their advanced suppressive & warfare technologies so to maintain a continued dominance over most global resources - including humans! Dan's been under attack bigtime and that in itself is big clue that the evil-darkside is doing whatever it can to shut down his teaching & material, imho.

>> DAN WINTER: [link to www.goldenmean.info]

[I found it most beneficial to start ancient studies w/ Dan's material listed under "HISTORY OF DNA / ET HISTORY" -- it is a chart of links on his website. This is his earlier articles archived from 1990's ----> go down, past halfway on his main Index Page to the full-size chart that has w/ columns across it.

Each column has a title as this:

Site Resources <> Science & Research Articles <> Sacred Geometry <> Heart Research <> History of DNA/ET History <> Practical Health /Emotion/ Bliss Hygiene

For those wanting specific leads of the Serpent - 'NEPH' connections, see these articles below from that column that's listed above = "HISTORY OF DNA / ET HISTORY" + many, many more are linked in the articles themselves!

ORION-Star Maps/Giza & Ophanic Origins
[link to www.goldenmean.info]

PLANETARY INVASION FORCE: A Reason for Ecstasy? - deeper on Drac Reptilian History of DNA-
[link to www.goldenmean.info]

Heart Arrows - Cosmic Serpent - Remothering -Fusion Serpent Draco Sumer Blood -Galaxy Healing Climaxes on Earth
[link to www.goldenmean.info]

ShapeShifter: Religions-SORTING DNA HYGIENE EMPOWERMENT vs A History of ET Manipulation
[link to www.goldenmean.info]

OrionGen of Arthur: Blood Of Merkabbah- Messeh/Messiah Reptile Blood, Germain Origins of Vampire Myth
[link to www.goldenmean.info]

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Next is a tremendous resource for all researchers = the virtual library of BIBLIOTECAPLEYADES NET:

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

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Some others to read/study - check on YouTube also:

>> Alex Collier
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

* Galactic History According to Alex Collier and The Andromedans
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

* Also see: [link to projectcamelot.org]

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>> Andrew Collins:
[link to www.andrewcollins.com]

>> William Henry - Mythologist
[link to www.williamhenry.net]

>> George Hunt Williamson / Brother Phillip --> Read @ Wiki + his book, "Secret Places of the Lion" is good place to start. And yes, he is controversial source .. but to those that are experienced in deep history research, he does *know* lots that resonates with many other sources.

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Find Book --> Jeremy Narby: The Cosmic Serpent: DNA and the Origins of Knowledge [link to en.wikipedia.org]


[Note: After study of Dan Winter's ancient history stuff, recommend to then listen to Alex Collier's talks & read the Andromeda accounts to get a good overview of how this whole thing we are collectively experiencing was formulated as part of a plan --- in times way, way beyond our conceptual abilities; that we, hue/mane-unit fleshly container components of sentience, are like microscopic parts of a vast, organic "healing" machine (G-O-D) = a team that actually volunteered to materialize over & over into form. (Another source I studied over years was named "BLUE" and that entity taught about the role of GOLD in this story and that it is more than just a molecular element as we are led to think). We the sentient-units manifest into form have served to be assimilated into the DNA of other lifeforms over aeons of time --- particularly, adverse (S-T-S) type entities = with purpose supposedly to knit back together a tremendous rift and thus bring into manifestation a new "wholeness" totality (the prophesied Buddhahood, Ascension, Enlightenment, Christ + Heaven on Earth, Hopi 4th wheel higher path choice, etc) - we trigger a healing by becoming that which was a'part from the whole body, reuniting that which was a state of brokenness ... similar to something like a rip or split in the cosmos / godhood (= polarity division of evil v good)... apparently stemming from a situation that could not be approximated back together (story of "the egg of Humpty Dumpty & all the king's men...) any other way except by this method of divine consciousness fragmenting then descending into the karmic wheel of being erased, experiential suffering & redemption (ex: study about the path of a Bodhisattva, the movie about descending into the bardo/hell w/ Robin Williams "What Dreams May Come")

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Last, a few sources from spiritual perspectives outside of Christian traditions:

Padmasambhava of Tibet region conquered the NAGA's in ancient times & there is much to study on this - see Wiki:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Here are few other recommendations including books:

** Anything written by or about HH Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche of Bhutan: [link to www.shechen.org]

Good Books:

-- Autobiography of a Yogi - Paramahansa Yogananda

-- The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying - Sogyal Rinpoche

-- The Way of the White Clouds - Lama Govinda

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