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The Contact Thread ~ The Magic Of Our Fractal Reality ~ Wanna Take A Ride? (version 20.13)

 
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i just realized something reading this thread

our founding fathers did not have a clue what they were walking into in either scale, personality or nature of the location
in fact they, like all others of that era, were aware of very little concerning the scale , nature and functions of our environment either locally or globally
 Quoting: aether


the reason i looked at that is because appolo quite correctly identifies denver`s symbols as representative of the motivation (beliefs) that dominated our founding fathers expression

within denver`s symbols is the expression of our founding fathers belief of creation and associated consequences
 Quoting: aether


so what our founding fathers ancestors (us) are having to do is attempt to match their beliefs of then, an accumulation of belief gathered within europe and our middle east, to a practical application matching the discoveries, thus awareness, of our past 100 years or so and confirmed via our technology off planet within our past 50 years

nasa etc.has the same problem

social structure founded upon belief not replicated in nature
as we now are aware

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...wow...just...wow...

remember this...1/20/10...

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hf
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Sorry but your link is broken AC.

hf


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i just realized something reading this thread

our founding fathers did not have a clue what they were walking into in either scale, personality or nature of the location
in fact they, like all others of that era, were aware of very little concerning the scale , nature and functions of our environment either locally or globally
 Quoting: aether


the reason i looked at that is because appolo quite correctly identifies denver`s symbols as representative of the motivation (beliefs) that dominated our founding fathers expression

within denver`s symbols is the expression of our founding fathers belief of creation and associated consequences
 Quoting: aether


so what our founding fathers ancestors (us) are having to do is attempt to match their beliefs of then, an accumulation of belief gathered within europe and our middle east, to a practical application matching the discoveries, thus awareness, of our past 100 years or so and confirmed via our technology off planet within our past 50 years

nasa etc.has the same problem

social structure founded upon belief not replicated in nature
as we now are aware

 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


The Freemason and supposed Illuminati influence formed in lock step with the founding of the country so I take it that it was the 'secret' European influence that directed the process of Manifest Destiny. And it was the way they went about bulldozing across the continent that would lend some credence to your idea that the founding fathers 'did not have a clue'. When you think about it that kind of behavior carried out to this very day as America has military bases in most countries, only it took much more 'finesse' with public acceptance being a major concern as things became more contemporary (propaganda). It's that left brained manifestation of wanting to dominate is a wisdomless kind of way.

The town I grew up in was founded in 1649 and luckily we had some teachers in school who took a lot of interest in the local history, so they worked it into the curriculum. We had a war fought in part there too...

"Philip was ultimately killed by one of these teams when he was tracked down by colony-allied Native Americans led by Captain Benjamin Church and Captain Josiah Standish of the Plymouth Colony militia at Mt. Hope, Rhode Island. Philip was shot and killed by an Indian named John Alderman on August 12, 1676. Philip was beheaded, then drawn and quartered (a traditional treatment of criminals in this era). His head was displayed in Plymouth for twenty years. The war was nearly over except for a few attacks in Maine that lasted until 1677."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It's not uncommon to walk through the wilderness here and still find relics left by Native Americans, arrow heads and things like that.


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Last Edited by halman on 11/12/2011 06:34 PM
"And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick

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yes, you only find out by finding out so, until all was globalized, the effect of linking everything could never be known

once globalized it no longer mattered how it became so

it mattered to those that achieved it, humanity, but it didn`t matter to the effects it caused

they (effects) are only aware of linked globally on-wards, there is no history prior to linked for them, only the previous global memories, they do not relate to the in between separated history.

thus humanity met unexpected consequences with nothing within their remembered past to relate them

what had awoken was the ancestral memories of a long forgotten global culture .

manifesting emotional experiences alien to those presently living

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yes, you only find out by finding out so, until all was globalized, the effect of linking everything could never be known

once globalized it no longer mattered how it became so

it mattered to those that achieved it, humanity, but it didn`t matter to the effects it caused

they (effects) are only aware of linked globally on-wards, there is no history prior to linked for them, only the previous global memories, they do not relate to the in between separated history.

thus humanity met unexpected consequences with nothing within their remembered past to relate them

what had awoken was the ancestral memories of a long forgotten global culture .

manifesting emotional experiences alien to those presently living
 Quoting: aether


That's a good way to put it aether. Had it not been for that type of left brained need to dominate, the would have been no mechanism in place to tie everything together. Now that 'things are in place', it should be an interesting future ahead. I'm pretty sure that this whole OWS movement is the beginning stages of a transformation in the way we go about surviving, seeing peoples' motivation in protesting is all centered around the global economy.


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yes, you only find out by finding out so, until all was globalized, the effect of linking everything could never be known

once globalized it no longer mattered how it became so

it mattered to those that achieved it, humanity, but it didn`t matter to the effects it caused

they (effects) are only aware of linked globally on-wards, there is no history prior to linked for them, only the previous global memories, they do not relate to the in between separated history.

thus humanity met unexpected consequences with nothing within their remembered past to relate them

what had awoken was the ancestral memories of a long forgotten global culture .

manifesting emotional experiences alien to those presently living
 Quoting: aether


That's a good way to put it aether. Had it not been for that type of left brained need to dominate, the would have been no mechanism in place to tie everything together. Now that 'things are in place', it should be an interesting future ahead. I'm pretty sure that this whole OWS movement is the beginning stages of a transformation in the way we go about surviving, seeing peoples' motivation in protesting is all centered around the global economy.


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 Quoting: BOWMAN


this is very relevant


Martin, Do you not think it is so that WE All have
a Testimony?


Beautiful, Bright, and gleaming with
every imaginable color and spectrum-------
when Sung together produces a glorious symphony----

Our Testimony is that we have survived countless
disasters, poisoning, Mass Genocides, Imprisonment,
Beatings, and Super deranged Mental Conditioning-------
over the course of time after the Flood----

Each one of Our Personal Stories that we have to Tell
is Special----and Brought forward with Purpose By Each and Every one who cares to make a post......


How can one say to another being------"I am Anointed,
But you are not, because I just know"------


Thats the same Derogatory mindset that Has brought the
World into its Present Turmoil-------Placing oneself
Over another met with the reasoning that "One is divine,
and another is Not"---------in your judgement

I have been Judged, by Too many with this Same Mindset---
And you also have been judged in this society---

Perhaps you should make your true feelings Spoken----
in Regards to The Situation That You believe Is at
Hand--
- it may or may not validate your judgements...
But at least the reasoning for what you say Would
be laid on the table so to speake.
 Quoting: Le Palma

Thread: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse. (Page 1514)

it is why i have been avoiding the topic on my marko thread
it is emotional to others
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I rode there, lived through it. Survived and woke up.

Sig.
Something - A tree etc., that looks real to us, is nothing but a bunch of atoms, interacting with each other to form a shape, because our brain requires it. When we see an arrangement of atoms in a particular way, we think that is a tree.
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yes, you only find out by finding out so, until all was globalized, the effect of linking everything could never be known

once globalized it no longer mattered how it became so

it mattered to those that achieved it, humanity, but it didn`t matter to the effects it caused

they (effects) are only aware of linked globally on-wards, there is no history prior to linked for them, only the previous global memories, they do not relate to the in between separated history.

thus humanity met unexpected consequences with nothing within their remembered past to relate them

what had awoken was the ancestral memories of a long forgotten global culture .

manifesting emotional experiences alien to those presently living
 Quoting: aether


That's a good way to put it aether. Had it not been for that type of left brained need to dominate, the would have been no mechanism in place to tie everything together. Now that 'things are in place', it should be an interesting future ahead. I'm pretty sure that this whole OWS movement is the beginning stages of a transformation in the way we go about surviving, seeing peoples' motivation in protesting is all centered around the global economy.


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 Quoting: BOWMAN


this is very relevant


Martin, Do you not think it is so that WE All have
a Testimony?


Beautiful, Bright, and gleaming with
every imaginable color and spectrum-------
when Sung together produces a glorious symphony----

Our Testimony is that we have survived countless
disasters, poisoning, Mass Genocides, Imprisonment,
Beatings, and Super deranged Mental Conditioning-------
over the course of time after the Flood----

Each one of Our Personal Stories that we have to Tell
is Special----and Brought forward with Purpose By Each and Every one who cares to make a post......


How can one say to another being------"I am Anointed,
But you are not, because I just know"------


Thats the same Derogatory mindset that Has brought the
World into its Present Turmoil-------Placing oneself
Over another met with the reasoning that "One is divine,
and another is Not"---------in your judgement

I have been Judged, by Too many with this Same Mindset---
And you also have been judged in this society---

Perhaps you should make your true feelings Spoken----
in Regards to The Situation That You believe Is at
Hand--
- it may or may not validate your judgements...
But at least the reasoning for what you say Would
be laid on the table so to speake.
 Quoting: Le Palma

Thread: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse. (Page 1514)

it is why i have been avoiding the topic on my marko thread
it is emotional to others
 Quoting: aether


thumbs


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I rode there, lived through it. Survived and woke up.

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Something - A tree etc., that looks real to us, is nothing but a bunch of atoms, interacting with each other to form a shape, because our brain requires it. When we see an arrangement of atoms in a particular way, we think that is a tree.
 Quoting: no one 5295888


Well that can be one perspective of a tree, no one. But how many would utilize that kind of perspective from a day to day standpoint? Nowadays when I see a tree I see a message from Creation, one that tells us yes, we are diversified but at the same time we're all bound together to form one thing.

OLtree


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"And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick

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I rode there, lived through it. Survived and woke up.

Sig.
Something - A tree etc., that looks real to us, is nothing but a bunch of atoms, interacting with each other to form a shape, because our brain requires it. When we see an arrangement of atoms in a particular way, we think that is a tree.
 Quoting: no one 5295888


Well that can be one perspective of a tree, no one. But how many would utilize that kind of perspective from a day to day standpoint? Nowadays when I see a tree I see a message from Creation, one that tells us yes, we are diversified but at the same time we're all bound together to form one thing.

OLtree


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 Quoting: BOWMAN


Three Models of the Universe

The Ceramic Model – The Universe as artifact.

This is the model that has carried over from the Judeo-Christian tradition. In this model, one sees the world as constructed or made- particularly by a supreme God, be it an Intelligent designer or Yahweh himself. The Biblical Narrative in the first few chapters of Genesis describes how the world came in to being. When God made man, he formed him out of the earth and breathed life ‘in’ to him. This idea has left many westerners with the idea that the world was manufactured by God, and our essential being (soul, spirit, atman, etc…) was brought ‘in to’ the world.
 Quoting: abrahamic


The Fully-Automatic Model – The Universe as dumb energy and random cause & effect.

When science began to take precedence over religion, it became harder for people to believe in the God of the Ceramic Model. They saw no evidence of his craftsmanship, because the signs were pointing to natural selection and evolution. Intelligent design became too hard to believe. Charles Darwin, one of the key thinkers for this model of the Universe, had this to say about Intelligent design:

“I had no intention to write atheistically. But I own that I cannot see as plainly as others do, and as I should wish to do, evidence of design…. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae [parasitic wasps] with the express intention of their [larva] feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars.”(The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, 8:224)

The fully-automatic model that Darwin endorsed suggests that the evolutionary process is push along by a dumb energy, not an intelligent designer.
 Quoting: mechanical


The Organic Model – The Universe as organism.

This is the view that Alan Watts pulled from a Chinese worldview. Watts usually starts his discussion on this model by saying that the Chinese don’t see their lives/souls as coming ‘in to’ the world, but rather ‘out of’ the world. For example, a common question that a western child will ask her parents is, “Mommy, how was I made?” A Chinese child would not ask, “How was I made?” But, she might as her mother, “How was I grown?” This is the view that I believe Alan Watts held for a majority of his later years.

Watts would say that the same way an apple tree “apples” (as a verb), the universe “peoples”. Everything we see, hear, touch and taste has come out of the world – not in to it. It is assumed that when people believe that their ‘self’ was cast in to a human body on this earth, they see the unsatisfactory events in life as being unfair. They didn’t choose this life. Nobody asked them if they wanted to be born. But when if we believe that we are in fact a part of the world, coming forth from it, we are motivated to work with the ways of the world (what the Taoist calls establishing Wu-Wei). Realizing the interdependence of the whole Universe, we are able to see where we fit in it and how to work with it.
 Quoting: far east

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 Quoting: aether

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does that answer the tree of life ?

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I rode there, lived through it. Survived and woke up.

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Something - A tree etc., that looks real to us, is nothing but a bunch of atoms, interacting with each other to form a shape, because our brain requires it. When we see an arrangement of atoms in a particular way, we think that is a tree.
 Quoting: no one 5295888


Well that can be one perspective of a tree, no one. But how many would utilize that kind of perspective from a day to day standpoint? Nowadays when I see a tree I see a message from Creation, one that tells us yes, we are diversified but at the same time we're all bound together to form one thing.

OLtree


------
 Quoting: BOWMAN


Three Models of the Universe

The Ceramic Model – The Universe as artifact.

This is the model that has carried over from the Judeo-Christian tradition. In this model, one sees the world as constructed or made- particularly by a supreme God, be it an Intelligent designer or Yahweh himself. The Biblical Narrative in the first few chapters of Genesis describes how the world came in to being. When God made man, he formed him out of the earth and breathed life ‘in’ to him. This idea has left many westerners with the idea that the world was manufactured by God, and our essential being (soul, spirit, atman, etc…) was brought ‘in to’ the world.
 Quoting: abrahamic


The Fully-Automatic Model – The Universe as dumb energy and random cause & effect.

When science began to take precedence over religion, it became harder for people to believe in the God of the Ceramic Model. They saw no evidence of his craftsmanship, because the signs were pointing to natural selection and evolution. Intelligent design became too hard to believe. Charles Darwin, one of the key thinkers for this model of the Universe, had this to say about Intelligent design:

“I had no intention to write atheistically. But I own that I cannot see as plainly as others do, and as I should wish to do, evidence of design…. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae [parasitic wasps] with the express intention of their [larva] feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars.”(The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, 8:224)

The fully-automatic model that Darwin endorsed suggests that the evolutionary process is push along by a dumb energy, not an intelligent designer.
 Quoting: mechanical


The Organic Model – The Universe as organism.

This is the view that Alan Watts pulled from a Chinese worldview. Watts usually starts his discussion on this model by saying that the Chinese don’t see their lives/souls as coming ‘in to’ the world, but rather ‘out of’ the world. For example, a common question that a western child will ask her parents is, “Mommy, how was I made?” A Chinese child would not ask, “How was I made?” But, she might as her mother, “How was I grown?” This is the view that I believe Alan Watts held for a majority of his later years.

Watts would say that the same way an apple tree “apples” (as a verb), the universe “peoples”. Everything we see, hear, touch and taste has come out of the world – not in to it. It is assumed that when people believe that their ‘self’ was cast in to a human body on this earth, they see the unsatisfactory events in life as being unfair. They didn’t choose this life. Nobody asked them if they wanted to be born. But when if we believe that we are in fact a part of the world, coming forth from it, we are motivated to work with the ways of the world (what the Taoist calls establishing Wu-Wei). Realizing the interdependence of the whole Universe, we are able to see where we fit in it and how to work with it.
 Quoting: far east

[link to truthaparadox.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: aether

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

does that answer the tree of life ?
 Quoting: aether


Option 3 seems to me as not only the best explanation between the other two extremes, but also the one that can yield the most possibilities.


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Option 3 seems to me as not only the best explanation between the other two extremes, but also the one that can yield the most possibilities.
 Quoting: bowman


now all is globalized within our information era the two sides of the brain (earth) manifest the two to one expressions between them

the extremes (2) being in the west
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Option 3 seems to me as not only the best explanation between the other two extremes, but also the one that can yield the most possibilities.
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now all is globalized within our information era the two sides of the brain (earth) manifest the two to one expressions between them

the extremes (2) being in the west
 Quoting: aether


strangely maybe it is the underground "occult/pagan" of the west that most closely matches the east
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Option 3 seems to me as not only the best explanation between the other two extremes, but also the one that can yield the most possibilities.
 Quoting: bowman


now all is globalized within our information era the two sides of the brain (earth) manifest the two to one expressions between them

the extremes (2) being in the west
 Quoting: aether


That's a great observation there aether.


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Option 3 seems to me as not only the best explanation between the other two extremes, but also the one that can yield the most possibilities.
 Quoting: bowman


now all is globalized within our information era the two sides of the brain (earth) manifest the two to one expressions between them

the extremes (2) being in the west
 Quoting: aether


strangely maybe it is the underground "occult/pagan" of the west that most closely matches the east
 Quoting: aether


Yes, and probably because of their acknowledgement of Creation being more the product of energies over some form of personification. Although over the last 10-20 years there has been a shift in the general population showing greater interest in Eastern spiritual practices too.


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Last Edited by halman on 11/15/2011 05:08 AM
"And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick

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in the west new awareness (information) was either against gods will or of confrontational mechanical explosive nature

both emotional attitudes the result of their emotional self programming

in the east , no matter the topic, (awareness) flows as wave on a wave on a wave on a wave ...............
 Quoting: aether



Option 3 seems to me as not only the best explanation between the other two extremes, but also the one that can yield the most possibilities.
 Quoting: bowman


now all is globalized within our information era the two sides of the brain (earth) manifest the two to one expressions between them

the extremes (2) being in the west
 Quoting: aether


strangely maybe it is the underground "occult/pagan" of the west that most closely matches the east
 Quoting: aether


Yes, and probably because of their acknowledgement of Creation being more the product of energies over some form of personification. Although over the last 10-20 years there has been a shift in the general population showing greater interest in Eastern spiritual practices too.


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hallelujah !!!

14 months of debate and finally this pops out :

A universal, homogeneous, energy substructure, separated by a sort of double layer, composed of energy vortexes, aligned as pseudo-dipoles, in a three dimensional matrix..

Upon this matrix is the aether, particles, as aligned vortexes, that form the other half of the double layer type structure.

The aether transmits energy, from the energy substrate, through the vortexes, at points corresponding to quantum flux, initiated by certain disturbances of the aether.

A particle, moving through the aether will exchange energy through the aether, to and from the energy substructure, and maintain internal equilibrium, or just exchange energy to other particles, if that exchange results in an energy state that is stable.

So, we have pure energy at the substructure level.
An insulating matrix layer of vortex energy, aligned with particle vortexes. This is the transition level of energy into particles.
And the aether field that allows passage of energy to and from the substrate.

I know of no analogy to use for this combination of insulated energy, a transfer mechanism for that energy, and a transport field for waves. From our perspective all of these seem to be only possible in disallowed dimensional structures. Indeed, dimension exchange is the only possible conclusion for this construct
 Quoting: observation


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this was arrived at without communicative intuition boost as in:

this is terrestrial grown awareness of human origin within our western dominated hierarchical structure (pyramid) following agreement of all parties concerned to allow awareness to blossom (naturally) as in:
no influence just new awareness (information) utilized
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cern is bravely fighting it`s corner tounge

...

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aware of the "weirdness" manifesting within the personalities of many over the coming 7 years it is best to allow distance (time) to "straighten" that out




and this is how it occurs in the personalities of some:

Until I read Ralph Sansbury, who pointed me to Wal T, I had never met anyone who affirmed what I have been teaching since 1982: the universe is connected, gravitation and light, as well as voltage effects, are instantaneous consequences of the unified field that comprises the entire universe, operating with the same geometry at every scale. My late mentor, Robert Archer Smith, wrote about this starting in 1960, and totally changed my paradigm when I met him at a teachers' conference in 1981, by showing me a simple home-made double slit experiment, then building his unified field geometry Euclid-like from a point up on the back of a napkin.

what can still get me edgy is that for over a hundred years before i formed human this was all known yet resisted, denied, hidden etc. etc
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l the consequential bull shit fantasy structures of human belie
those beliefs carried on their merry insane way on purpose.

it is the on purpose that gets me on both sides of the equation.

those that hid/denied what was known and those whom believed what existed

i never will get that as in:
how or why

knowing how and why does not assist because the actual reasons are unimaginable . i believe it because it is true but i will never "feel" it cos i can`t.
i am not structured to experience that.


The manifestation of the two extremes, science and religion, are a product of the fractal progression of human consciousness. Both are of a dictative nature, di
 Quoting: observation
rom the 'authority' to the individual and both resist one another. Despite the arrival of the plasma cloud and it's effects on human consciousness in the mid to late 19th century, the platform just wasn't in place to deliver the type of consciousness that combines science and spirituality, until our global communication system manifested. With this new delivery system of information, it was now possible for the individual to become it's own authority in determining it's true origins.



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wow do i like that reply!!

love it xoxo
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The manifestation of the two extremes, science and religion, are a product of the fractal progression of human consciousness. Both are of a dictative nature, dictated from the 'authority' to the individual and both resist one another. Despite the arrival of the plasma cloud and it's effects on human consciousness in the mid to late 19th century, the platform just wasn't in place to deliver the type of consciousness that combines science and spirituality, until our global communication system manifested. With this new delivery system of information, it was now possible for the individual to become it's own authority in determining it's true origins.
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that is the perfect reply because that is reality of this location
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Love that series of videos!
I can't help but thinking I wish so many more people were interested in this kind of information...or even getting it taught in schools...

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This will happen again on our earth. this knowledge that once existed will again be brought forth for all to see and experience.
I'm not being wishful about this...I know it will happen.

To best describe the knowing of what unfolds.
It's a thought that enters not only in one's mind but an unflinching set in stone energy that will manifest into reality.

Even those words don't do justice to how one knows.
Thought is energy...what we do in today's world is we second guess and doubt the original intent.
The world has become self doubting in there stance towards shaping our own reality.

The reality of thought structure has been lined with seperation and self doubt.
If people have a good look around, they will see the amount of self doubt and lack of confidence in people's ability.
This confidence is very brittle and breakable when things go wrong.
This has got to do with our unbringing and structured lives we live in.
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That 'strangeness' you described earlier is what I think is the catalyst that makes people ask themselves, 'What is going on?' especially in the Western world because as you pointed out we are the ones most caught between the two extremeties of the authority of origin. And it takes all of this information processing to, as the Gospel of Thomas puts it..'make the two (understandings) into one (understanding). It happens at the individuL level, yes. As I'm sure everyone who's reading this thread can relate their experiences in that kind of way. But also look at the two authorities (science and religion). Both are making progression towards one another as science has become more open to how it has been fundamentally wrong in it's interpretation of it's observations and religion has become more open to what is observed in our environment. Though there's still a long way to go to get the two to agree on a basic principle, I think the more individuals that attain a unitary type of consciousness about their origins will drive the authorities towards more concessions towards one another.


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wow bowman
hat`s off

keep talking please !!!

shivers and tingles rockon
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The whole "nine waves" theory is interesting and all, but...

What I don't get, is why nothing really happened in the ninth wave. Was the date calculation wrong or what?

The first wave bore some pretty OBVIOUS FRUIT, and so did the rest. But then we get to the NINTH AND FINAL LEVEL, THE GRAND CONCLUSION OF THE WHOLE 16.4 BILLION YEAR DRAMA, and we see nothing much of real significance happening at all.

I for one had greater expectations.
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information is always coming towards us and rupert is getting his head around it
add to this our awareness that the information that is light (material) travels infinitely slower that information within the fields which form and sustain light

feel what he is building towards explaining

our past is the habits (memory) derived when our past was our present
today the information flowing towards us is more informative than it was when our past was our present was because our awareness today realizes that faster information exists (intuition)
our awareness is aware what the faster received information is and what it means (makes sense)

in our past our senses (intuition) still detected the faster information but our awareness could only attribute a meaning (motive of effect) into what our awareness new, the light speed information thus we attributed light as the cause (motive) for all of our experiences (effects)
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this thread is an example of this faster information awareness and consequences
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in the west new awareness (information) was either against gods will or of confrontational mechanical explosive nature

both emotional attitudes the result of their emotional self programming

in the east , no matter the topic, (awareness) flows as wave on a wave on a wave on a wave ...............
 Quoting: aether



...


now all is globalized within our information era the two sides of the brain (earth) manifest the two to one expressions between them

the extremes (2) being in the west
 Quoting: aether


strangely maybe it is the underground "occult/pagan" of the west that most closely matches the east
 Quoting: aether


Yes, and probably because of their acknowledgement of Creation being more the product of energies over some form of personification. Although over the last 10-20 years there has been a shift in the general population showing greater interest in Eastern spiritual practices too.


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hallelujah !!!

14 months of debate and finally this pops out :

A universal, homogeneous, energy substructure, separated by a sort of double layer, composed of energy vortexes, aligned as pseudo-dipoles, in a three dimensional matrix..

Upon this matrix is the aether, particles, as aligned vortexes, that form the other half of the double layer type structure.

The aether transmits energy, from the energy substrate, through the vortexes, at points corresponding to quantum flux, initiated by certain disturbances of the aether.

A particle, moving through the aether will exchange energy through the aether, to and from the energy substructure, and maintain internal equilibrium, or just exchange energy to other particles, if that exchange results in an energy state that is stable.

So, we have pure energy at the substructure level.
An insulating matrix layer of vortex energy, aligned with particle vortexes. This is the transition level of energy into particles.
And the aether field that allows passage of energy to and from the substrate.

I know of no analogy to use for this combination of insulated energy, a transfer mechanism for that energy, and a transport field for waves. From our perspective all of these seem to be only possible in disallowed dimensional structures. Indeed, dimension exchange is the only possible conclusion for this construct
 Quoting: observation


thumbs
 Quoting: aether


this was arrived at without communicative intuition boost as in:

this is terrestrial grown awareness of human origin within our western dominated hierarchical structure (pyramid) following agreement of all parties concerned to allow awareness to blossom (naturally) as in:
no influence just new awareness (information) utilized
 Quoting: aether


Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 121)
 Quoting: aether


In the context you describe here it seems your talking localities within the universe in which this insulated transferance of energy takes place. It makes me wonder that the 'big bang' should be renamed the 'big transferance' :)

ltthrblght


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I like Dan Winter. He seems to know the practical approach that I can relate to. Knows how to use test instruments too in observing our own electrical fields. thumbs


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Here is your primal grid:


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Love that series of videos!
I can't help but thinking I wish so many more people were interested in this kind of information...or even getting it taught in schools...

thumbs
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This will happen again on our earth. this knowledge that once existed will again be brought forth for all to see and experience.
I'm not being wishful about this...I know it will happen.

To best describe the knowing of what unfolds.
It's a thought that enters not only in one's mind but an unflinching set in stone energy that will manifest into reality.

Even those words don't do justice to how one knows.
Thought is energy...what we do in today's world is we second guess and doubt the original intent.
The world has become self doubting in there stance towards shaping our own reality.

The reality of thought structure has been lined with seperation and self doubt.
If people have a good look around, they will see the amount of self doubt and lack of confidence in people's ability.
This confidence is very brittle and breakable when things go wrong.
This has got to do with our unbringing and structured lives we live in.
 Quoting: mysterynomore


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It goes back to being dictated to by 'authoriy' for so long. You become accustomed to it. With the information available today to the everyday person, immense in both volume and speed, you CAN become your own authority. But just that little realization is such a huge leap in consciousness for most people, when it comes to such subjects they have been made to feel that they have no business exploring.


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The whole "nine waves" theory is interesting and all, but...

What I don't get, is why nothing really happened in the ninth wave. Was the date calculation wrong or what?

The first wave bore some pretty OBVIOUS FRUIT, and so did the rest. But then we get to the NINTH AND FINAL LEVEL, THE GRAND CONCLUSION OF THE WHOLE 16.4 BILLION YEAR DRAMA, and we see nothing much of real significance happening at all.

I for one had greater expectations.
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For me the study of the fractal progression of consciousness was more of an exercise in dropping expectations, because lord knows our heads have been jammed packed with 'expectations' regarding 'end times', 'shift of ages', etc...Because for the purist there was no mechanism within the structure of the fractal progression of consciousness that predicted anything of a specific nature to manifest into reality on October 28th, 2011.

You could listen to what the ancients had to say about it but at the end of the day it's still heresay and there was no difinitive proof linking what they had to say about the shift and the timing of the fractal progression. I tried my best to deliver this model with that kind of honesty here.

Let me ask you this...what were your 'expectations' at the turn of the millenium? Were you focused on 'doomsday' senarios and Y2K theories, which were all the rage and what grabbed most peoples' attention? Or were you focused on the 'subtle' shift of human consciousness into cyberspace? Most people if they were honest, including me, would say no to the latter and yes to the former.

Altough I'm still processing the 9th wave and all that transpired during it, I'll say that the magic seemed to be of a more personal nature, rather than global. Although the global economy, the process that allows people to survive, IS in a tremendous upheaval and should be payed attention to. But from the personal perspective, it was as though those who were aware of the process, and its subtle nature, were the ones who were aware to watch for the 'little miracles' and synchronicities.

For me it feels as though the 'new world consciousness' is growing as it should be, but it will take some time for the manifestation part to take hold on a global scale.


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information is always coming towards us and rupert is getting his head around it
add to this our awareness that the information that is light (material) travels infinitely slower that information within the fields which form and sustain light

feel what he is building towards explaining

our past is the habits (memory) derived when our past was our present
today the information flowing towards us is more informative than it was when our past was our present was because our awareness today realizes that faster information exists (intuition)
our awareness is aware what the faster received information is and what it means (makes sense)

in our past our senses (intuition) still detected the faster information but our awareness could only attribute a meaning (motive of effect) into what our awareness new, the light speed information thus we attributed light as the cause (motive) for all of our experiences (effects)
 Quoting: aether


this thread is an example of this faster information awareness and consequences
 Quoting: aether


Except for the original posts. They took about a month or so to write. chuckle

This past 9th wave really had that intuitive theme to it, which makes sense because it's the next step beyond the global communication system in terms of speed. Again, that's more toward the personal awareness of the fractal unfolding of consciousness, tapping into that other realm. I still feel though that I need to sharpen up my non-material number 2 pencil a bit. :)


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THAT's the series that prompted me to start DRAWING the circles...

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