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Message Subject The Contact Thread ~ The Magic Of Our Fractal Reality ~ Wanna Take A Ride? (version 20.13)
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"You have to take seriously the notion that understanding the universe is your responsibility, because the only understanding of the universe that will be useful to you is your own understanding."
~ Terence McKenna


[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]


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A Journey Through Infinity ~ Measuring the Fractal Growth & Evolution of Awareness ~ The Universe Is Consciousness


Ever since you were born, you have been painting a picture in your mind of Creation. Each and every individuals 'picture' of what Creation looks like, from the beginning and how it has evolved to this point, is dependent upon what that person has been paying attention to and to what degree they've been paying attention over the course of their lifetime.

For your garden variety middle aged person raised and living in the Western world, your picture of Creation probably was fed to you by two different 'institutions', those being religious and educational respectively. And it probably went something like this...

You were told at a young age about the Creation story in the book of Genesis. You were told that the Earth, life, and all of existence was created within a period of one week, with God resting on the 7th day after the completion of his work. You were essentially given a subjective story about the origin of our existence, and you were expected to accept this story as fact. To question it, was to question God himself. But you did.

Then, as you became more 'educated' by scientific & historical culture, you were shown that the individual scientific facts about our origins completely annihilated this 'Creation story' that came out of the Bible, at least in a literal sense. The universe, through the observations of astrophysicists, was shown to be somewhere between 12 to 20 billion years old. Radiometric dating methods demonstrate that the Earth is somewhere around 4.5 billion years old, not the 6,000 years as depicted in the Bible. And carbon 14 dating methods show that humans have been around for much longer than 6,000 years. These are individual facts that are peer reviewed and can be trusted as being more towards the truth as far as our physical origins are concerned. And through the peer reviewed works of minds like Darwin, Newton, Einstein, and Hawking, you were now given an objective calculation of Creation, based solely on physical observations. It's a 'story' observed by (but devoid of) consciousness. To question this 'story', is to go against what is taught by Western educational authority.

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Over the course of the last century, a great debate over our origins as a species has raged on between radical fundamentalists and their subjective story vs. radical positivists and their objective calculations. These few people have dominated the subject in a particularly intense way. The majority of people have been observing this debate over the course of the last century from the sidelines, knowing that they are conscious beings living in a material world, but with no way to express and to resolve these two aspects of reality into one explanation...

...until now.

Please join in on this examination of a model of time that demonstrates we are here to experience a purposeful existence, something that flies in the face of what modern day scientific culture tells us. There is nothing to be believed with this model of time. This model of time is delivered on a non linear template and is based upon individual scientific and historical facts. It is a model to be tested and wrestled with, but never is it to be believed in. It is to be known.

And your duty here in this thread, if you choose to accept it, is to 'make me a liar'.

With this model of time, you'll see that there is a code to how Creation is constructing itself, and that this code is calibrated around the evolution of consciousness from the very inception of Creation to its completion. We'll learn why we've been told that we are the result of randomness & chance, and why that just isn't the truth. We'll also learn what the true intention and direction of our evolution is as a species. This model of time is a synthesis of a subjective story, the flow of Creation, overlaid onto an objective calculation of numbers, the language that cannot lie. As you will see, this objective calculation can be used as a tool to trend the subjective flow of consciousness over the course of Creation. And when you do this, you'll see how Creation utilizes 9 distinct and discernible forms of communication to build 9 base cells of consciousness, that make up who we are as human beings. This model of time is a melding of spiritual and scientific mindsets. It's only when we stop arguing over the differences and start putting together the similarities, that we can begin to make sense of it all.


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 Quoting: BOWMAN


'make me a liar'... good one!

if one wanted to state that with even more creative license one could have quoted the following..


"Make me thy lyre, even as the forest is"

P.B. Shelley

quick memorial..

"Hymn to Intellectual Beauty" is an 84-line ode that was influenced by Jean-Jacques Rousseau's novel of sensibility Julie, or the New Heloise and William Wordsworth's "Ode: Intimations of Immortality". Although the theme of the ode, glory's departure, is shared with Wordsworth's ode, Shelley holds a differing view of nature:[3]

The awful shadow of some unseen Power
Floats though unseen among us, - visiting
This various world with as inconstant wing
As summer winds that creep from flower to flower. -
Like moonbeams that behind some piny mountain shower,
It visits with inconstant glance
Each human heart and countenance; (Lines 1–8)
The second stanza begins with the narrator addressing Intellectual Beauty:

Spirit of Beauty, that dost consecrate
With thine own hues all thou dost shine upon
Of human thought or form, - where are thou gone?
Why dost thou pass away and leave our state,
This dim vast vale of tears, vacant and desolate? (Lines 13–17)
But he is not answered, as he reveals in stanza three:

No voice from some sublimer world hath ever
To sage or poet these responses given -
Therefore the name of God and ghosts and Heaven,
Remain the records of their vain endeavour, (Lines 25–28)
The fourth stanza reveals three values:

Love, Hope, and Self-esteem, like clouds depart
And come, for some uncertain moments lent.
Man were immortal, and omnipotent,
Didst thou, unknown and awful as thou art,
Keep with thy glorious train firm state within his heart. (Lines 36–41)
Shelley replaces the third of the Christian values, faith, with self-esteem, which signifies respect for the human imagination. According to the narrator, we have only temporary access to these values and can only attain them through Intellectual Beauty:[3]

Thou messenger of sympathies,
That wax and wane in lovers's eyes-
Thou - that to human thought art nourishment,
Like darkness to a dying flame!
Depart not as thy shadow came,
Depart not - lest the grave should be,
Like life and fear, a dark reality. (Lines 42–48)
In stanza five, he reveals:

While yet a boy I sought for ghosts, and sped
Through many a listening chamber, cave and ruin,
And starlight wood, with fearful steps pursuing
Hopes of high talk with the departed dead. (Lines 49–52)
The words he speaks, possibly referring to Christian doctrines, brought him no response. It was not until he mused on life that he was able to experience a sort of religious awakening and learn of Intellectual Beauty:[4]

Sudden, thy shadow fell on me;
I shrieked, and clasped my hands in ecstacy! (Lines 59–60)
Once he learns of Intellectual Beauty, he makes a vow, which begins stanza six:[4]

I vowed that I would dedicate my powers
To thee and thine - have I not kept the vow?
Stanza seven continues with the vow:

Thus let thy power, which like the truth
Of nature on my passive youth
Descended, to my ownward life supply
Its calm - to one who worships thee,
And every form containing thee,
Whom, Spirit fair, thy spells did bind
To fear himself, and love all human kind. (Lines 78–84)
The narrator breaks from the Wordsworthian tradition by realizing that Intellectual Beauty, and not manifestations of it in nature, is what should be worshipped. The imagination, and not nature, is connected to truth, and the narrator realizes that he should revere his own imagination and the imagination of others.[5]

[edit] Variations

Shelley's understanding of Beauty as an ideal and universal aspect, as opposed to the common understanding of the word as an aesthetic judgment of an object, was influenced by his knowledge of Plato's writings. However, where Plato believed Beauty should be sought after gradually in degrees until one can achieve true Beauty, a process made possible through dialectic, Shelley believed that Beauty could also be found through its earthly manifestations and could only be connected to through the use of the imagination. The origins of Shelley's understanding of Beauty and how to attain it can be found within "Hymn to Intellectual Beauty". The poem's theme is Beauty, but Shelley's understanding of how the mind works is different from Plato's: Plato wrote (principally in the Symposium) that Beauty is a metaphysical object existing independent of our experiences of particular concrete objects, while Shelley believed that philosophy and metaphysics could not reveal truth and that an understanding of Beauty was futile. Instead, Beauty could only be felt and its source could not be known.[7]

[edit] Notes
 Quoting: it's all too beautiful! 1286620



Nice substitution. :)

I wonder what Plato meant when he said beauty was a 'metaphysical object'. Interesting to get the differing viewpoints on its origins.


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