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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/23/2011 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the influence of mara upon our elites: Quoting: aether following aethers discovery the brothers focus began to alter: Quoting: aether reflecting the different information they were now receiving prompted by their own altered state of awareness previously all entity connection was believed to be either "demonic" or "angelic" of nature and manifested either from "below" or "above" both of which were in close proximity to earth with aether , the non material dimensions of near instant motion over distance, the brothers awareness of what they were communicating with`s as in: locations changed to include, for it`s day, surprising results written around the white brotherhood reality the following type publications appeared 1923 The Nine Unknown is a 1923 novel by Talbot Mundy.Originally serialised in Adventure magazine, [1] it concerns the "Nine Unknown Men", a fictional secret society founded by the Mauryan Emperor Asoka around 270 BC Quoting: observationThe nine books entrusted to the Nine Unknown contain information on Propaganda and Psychological warfare, Physiology, including secrets concerning the "touch of death", Microbiology, Alchemy, Communication, including communication with extraterrestrials, Gravity, and anti-gravity devices (Vimanas, the "ancient UFOs of India"), Cosmology, including hyperspace and time-travel, Light, and a technology capable of modifying the speed of light and Sociology, including rules predicting the rise and fall of empires. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Thread: Happy Rosh Hashanah !!...Shana Tova Umetukah ! ... Listen to the Shofar ! (Page 15) Thread: NINE---A Curious Number (Page 6) Last Edited by aether on 10/23/2011 09:55 AM |
A Muse Me User ID: 1492096 United States 10/23/2011 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, good morning aether. Just mulling over some of the themes that are in your thread as of late. As far as experiences in truth go I classify them as such: Quoting: bowmanType I - direct experience of the individual Type II - what two or more individuals can objectively agree on as 'truth' Type III - what two or more individuals can subjectively agree on as 'truth' Something like that... Anyways starting in the later half of 2009 I began to detect something that was more like a 'secondary language' (type III) that was emerging that was much more emotionally based that formed 'out of the chaos' so to speak. It's not so much the fear and submission that I struggle with, because I think that as 'unique' an individual as I sometimes see myself to be, I know that everyone has the same potential to be 'where I'm at'. I'm more or less 'okay' with myself at any given time, but it IS a balancing act in progress. It's more the respect that I have in trying to define something I have no business trying to define, lest I have the experience of whatever it is this 'language out of chaos' is emerging from. In other words I don't want to define it out of my own 'slanted' expeectations, only to end up being incorrect (potentially) and having a setback of sorts. Intuitively I feel as though I should allow things to progress naturally and not try to claim anything for my own, if that makes sense? fantastically described bowman !!!!! luv ya that sensation i outlined in red is our emotional formed and sustained human archetypes effect doing their job of forming unease within your emotions if and as you look through their (societies) influence (belief structure) others get that same sensation ,the "not my place" sensation which is part of the override, that which will be over ridden, discussed on the marko thread arising from your words and amm`s translations Thank you aether and thank you for all the time you've put in bringing me along here. When I read your response yesterday I felt a little bit of weight come off the old shoulders of mine. ------ I felt real similar to you, Bowman, in the ‘defining’ department as aether noted. It wasn’t the daunting in the face of daunting, as much as also intuitively knowing that it was going to be more of phase of what people had already stumbled upon come to light in waves. That collective thing that creates organic from chaos. Precious soul you are. Holding the ambivalence least wanting to ring ones hands and crush it is no easy feat. The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/23/2011 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I felt real similar to you, Bowman, in the ‘defining’ department as aether noted. It wasn’t the daunting in the face of daunting, as much as also intuitively knowing that it was going to be more of phase of what people had already stumbled upon come to light in waves. That collective thing that creates organic from chaos. Precious soul you are. Holding the ambivalence least wanting to ring ones hands and crush it is no easy feat. Quoting: ammthat lite up my forehead good summation |
¤ Itz A DreaM ¤ User ID: 1452841 United States 10/24/2011 02:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because this is a great thread. "For someone who was never meant for this world, I must confess I'm suddenly having a hard time leaving it. Of course, they say every atom in our bodies was once part of a star. Maybe I'm not leaving... maybe I'm going home." — Vincent, Gattaca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1403418 United States 10/24/2011 05:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, good morning aether. Just mulling over some of the themes that are in your thread as of late. As far as experiences in truth go I classify them as such: Quoting: bowmanType I - direct experience of the individual Type II - what two or more individuals can objectively agree on as 'truth' Type III - what two or more individuals can subjectively agree on as 'truth' Something like that... Anyways starting in the later half of 2009 I began to detect something that was more like a 'secondary language' (type III) that was emerging that was much more emotionally based that formed 'out of the chaos' so to speak. It's not so much the fear and submission that I struggle with, because I think that as 'unique' an individual as I sometimes see myself to be, I know that everyone has the same potential to be 'where I'm at'. I'm more or less 'okay' with myself at any given time, but it IS a balancing act in progress. It's more the respect that I have in trying to define something I have no business trying to define, lest I have the experience of whatever it is this 'language out of chaos' is emerging from. In other words I don't want to define it out of my own 'slanted' expeectations, only to end up being incorrect (potentially) and having a setback of sorts. Intuitively I feel as though I should allow things to progress naturally and not try to claim anything for my own, if that makes sense? fantastically described bowman !!!!! luv ya that sensation i outlined in red is our emotional formed and sustained human archetypes effect doing their job of forming unease within your emotions if and as you look through their (societies) influence (belief structure) others get that same sensation ,the "not my place" sensation which is part of the override, that which will be over ridden, discussed on the marko thread arising from your words and amm`s translations Thank you aether and thank you for all the time you've put in bringing me along here. When I read your response yesterday I felt a little bit of weight come off the old shoulders of mine. ------ I felt real similar to you, Bowman, in the ‘defining’ department as aether noted. It wasn’t the daunting in the face of daunting, as much as also intuitively knowing that it was going to be more of phase of what people had already stumbled upon come to light in waves. That collective thing that creates organic from chaos. Precious soul you are. Holding the ambivalence least wanting to ring ones hands and crush it is no easy feat. AMM, when I first became aware of the fractal nature of consciousness evolution, I wanted to share what had been discovered but was also aware of the challenge of 'sharing'. I at the time was 'ready' to hear about it because my life experiences up to that point had 'prepared' myself to 'hear about it'. While others around me at the time had not held the same 'interests' so I intuitively knew that I had to be careful with this new understanding I held. It was the 'rabbit hole' that was guarded by the social falacies we tend to be programmed with, that was the situation and it was a daunting challenge to attempt to share it the right way I felt. Then I stumble upon GLP...I learned how to 'thread' and felt that this was the best communication medium to use in order to 'share' with people who might also be looking for the information. I knew back then that there was no way of knowing where this was all leading us specifically so I focused on what already had happened. To present this information with the proper character that was befitting of it was my goal, knowing that whatever character I applied would fail in truly representing the divinity that was behind it all. It has been an adventure in self honesty and faith and that has been what's steered my character to where it presently is. ------ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1403418 United States 10/24/2011 05:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I felt real similar to you, Bowman, in the ‘defining’ department as aether noted. It wasn’t the daunting in the face of daunting, as much as also intuitively knowing that it was going to be more of phase of what people had already stumbled upon come to light in waves. That collective thing that creates organic from chaos. Precious soul you are. Holding the ambivalence least wanting to ring ones hands and crush it is no easy feat. Quoting: ammthat lite up my forehead good summation ------ |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/24/2011 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AMM, when I first became aware of the fractal nature of consciousness evolution, I wanted to share what had been discovered but was also aware of the challenge of 'sharing'. I at the time was 'ready' to hear about it because my life experiences up to that point had 'prepared' myself to 'hear about it'. While others around me at the time had not held the same 'interests' so I intuitively knew that I had to be careful with this new understanding I held. It was the 'rabbit hole' that was guarded by the social falacies we tend to be programmed with, that was the situation and it was a daunting challenge to attempt to share it the right way I felt. Quoting: bowmwnThen I stumble upon GLP...I learned how to 'thread' and felt that this was the best communication medium to use in order to 'share' with people who might also be looking for the information. I knew back then that there was no way of knowing where this was all leading us specifically so I focused on what already had happened. To present this information with the proper character that was befitting of it was my goal, knowing that whatever character I applied would fail in truly representing the divinity that was behind it all. It has been an adventure in self honesty and faith and that has been what's steered my character to where it presently is. wow, your words have the same effect upon my forehead to the point i needed to scratch it LOL the stunning proven conclusion reached over our past 100 years or so is our "personalities" are the same non material structure (consciousness) as the environment we emotionally express ourselves (live) within it and we are emotional experiences expressed in material form from this the inescapable truth arose that it, like us, must possess motive within the minds of our traditional elites , minds that had long forgotten their purpose within our society, confusion arose when this realization began to blossom the reason is because they themselves, and the structures we formed to support them, are founded on notions that without exception, do not exactly fit what we now are aware of over that 100 years many shifts of opinion have manifested within our elites on the topic of disclosure but the one that prevailed was always the one which is governed by mara fear, a fear which our new found awareness prompts in those whom emotionally experience they have most to lose by it`s discovery they simply can not imagine humanity different to the humanity which prompted them to form and maintain social order , when humanity needed them to do so, a very long time ago |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/24/2011 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you just prompted me to remember: Quoting: aether oh you just reminded me amm Quoting: aether Re: Genesis -1:1 whatever wrote that line Quoting: sether wanted to impose time by putting a beginning making eternity ending the reason is simple place power in invisble then wield power by saying authority from a non existing thus impossible to deny you are the main guy Thread: Genesis -1:1 (Page 3) Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 97) the reason the first line of genesis is wrong, thus all that follows by default wrong is because the archetype (god) utilized to confirm our and our universes reality contains the wrong information within it that god archetype utilized is the human emotionally formed and sustained archetype of their belief at that place (time)formed from ancestral awareness just as wrong put simple, a fantasy is attributed as the cause of reality jesus knew but if you notice, 80% of what he told is removed AND he told us the place (time) of his physically talking to us was NOT the place (time) for us to become aware of what we are to become aware of to put that simple, he remote viewed here , this place (time) for our awareness to blossom Thread: Do you choose the world of Man or the Kingdom of God Here on earth? Last Edited by aether on 10/24/2011 08:59 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 852939 United States 10/24/2011 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AMM, when I first became aware of the fractal nature of consciousness evolution, I wanted to share what had been discovered but was also aware of the challenge of 'sharing'. I at the time was 'ready' to hear about it because my life experiences up to that point had 'prepared' myself to 'hear about it'. While others around me at the time had not held the same 'interests' so I intuitively knew that I had to be careful with this new understanding I held. It was the 'rabbit hole' that was guarded by the social falacies we tend to be programmed with, that was the situation and it was a daunting challenge to attempt to share it the right way I felt. Quoting: bowmwnThen I stumble upon GLP...I learned how to 'thread' and felt that this was the best communication medium to use in order to 'share' with people who might also be looking for the information. I knew back then that there was no way of knowing where this was all leading us specifically so I focused on what already had happened. To present this information with the proper character that was befitting of it was my goal, knowing that whatever character I applied would fail in truly representing the divinity that was behind it all. It has been an adventure in self honesty and faith and that has been what's steered my character to where it presently is. wow, your words have the same effect upon my forehead to the point i needed to scratch it LOL the stunning proven conclusion reached over our past 100 years or so is our "personalities" are the same non material structure (consciousness) as the environment we emotionally express ourselves (live) within it and we are emotional experiences expressed in material form from this the inescapable truth arose that it, like us, must possess motive within the minds of our traditional elites , minds that had long forgotten their purpose within our society, confusion arose when this realization began to blossom the reason is because they themselves, and the structures we formed to support them, are founded on notions that without exception, do not exactly fit what we now are aware of over that 100 years many shifts of opinion have manifested within our elites on the topic of disclosure but the one that prevailed was always the one which is governed by mara fear, a fear which our new found awareness prompts in those whom emotionally experience they have most to lose by it`s discovery they simply can not imagine humanity different to the humanity which prompted them to form and maintain social order , when humanity needed them to do so, a very long time ago Yeah, those societal falacies are built on fear. I found that out the hard way that when trying to present the information, even with good character, that when someone isn't prepared to 'hear' it, the fear reaction kicks in. And that's where all the flak arose from throughout this journey to deliver this message. It arose from fear and it's what helped turned me into a broken man, at least by today's societal standards anyways. :P ------ |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/24/2011 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, those societal falacies are built on fear. I found that out the hard way that when trying to present the information, even with good character, that when someone isn't prepared to 'hear' it, the fear reaction kicks in. And that's where all the flak arose from throughout this journey to deliver this message. It arose from fear and it's what helped turned me into a broken man, at least by today's societal standards anyways. :P Quoting: bowmansame |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/24/2011 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, those societal falacies are built on fear. I found that out the hard way that when trying to present the information, even with good character, that when someone isn't prepared to 'hear' it, the fear reaction kicks in. And that's where all the flak arose from throughout this journey to deliver this message. It arose from fear and it's what helped turned me into a broken man, at least by today's societal standards anyways. :P Quoting: bowmansame but |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 852939 United States 10/24/2011 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, those societal falacies are built on fear. I found that out the hard way that when trying to present the information, even with good character, that when someone isn't prepared to 'hear' it, the fear reaction kicks in. And that's where all the flak arose from throughout this journey to deliver this message. It arose from fear and it's what helped turned me into a broken man, at least by today's societal standards anyways. :P Quoting: bowmansame but Sounds like a plan. ------ |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/25/2011 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not for the first time as a principle but, within our global communication era, for the first time as a collective, all humankind is aware that everyone's emotional expression of lifestyle awaits the decisions of a group of anonymous humans regarding the nature (politics) of god Quoting: aether i imagine our collective intuition is experiencing the tensions generated by this debate whilst experiencing the gathering material consequences that the necessity of the debate generates |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/25/2011 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same motive as Genesis. To put limitations on that which is not limited. Quoting: bowmanThat's my guess whatever the motive (cause) that is definitely the effect perhaps the motive contains the need to control ourselves (societies) because the motive (cause) of our existence is as much a mystery to our traditional controllers as it is to societies we empower them to control mara got us where we are this day through very long distance of our awareness possessing very little of practical use to us maybe Last Edited by aether on 10/25/2011 08:40 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3729200 United States 10/25/2011 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | guess la palma banned me from commenting on her thread , ... interesting ride, no need to point out flaws:-)... post not allowed for the record Maybe 'the two witnesses' is an occurrence that plays out on all scales of existence. Quoting: BOWMAN Sorta like how the Sun spends '3 days in the tomb' during winter solstice as Jesus supposedly did. ------ hmmm,... i'll have to ponder that... hiya sugar...aether too... marty, didn't mean to cause a stir...no apologies needed here... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1403418 United States 10/26/2011 05:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not for the first time as a principle but, within our global communication era, for the first time as a collective, all humankind is aware that everyone's emotional expression of lifestyle awaits the decisions of a group of anonymous humans regarding the nature (politics) of god Quoting: aether i imagine our collective intuition is experiencing the tensions generated by this debate whilst experiencing the gathering material consequences that the necessity of the debate generates Still working on this one aether. ------ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1403418 United States 10/26/2011 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | guess la palma banned me from commenting on her thread , ... interesting ride, no need to point out flaws:-)... post not allowed for the record Maybe 'the two witnesses' is an occurrence that plays out on all scales of existence. Quoting: BOWMAN Sorta like how the Sun spends '3 days in the tomb' during winter solstice as Jesus supposedly did. ------ hmmm,... i'll have to ponder that... hiya sugar...aether too... marty, didn't mean to cause a stir...no apologies needed here... Hiya AC. If you're trying to confuse me you're succeeding, lol. Welcome! ------ |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/27/2011 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Still working on this one aether. Quoting: bowmani`m sure, for some time now i have been immersed within our vortical archetype more than previously experienced, the consequence of location (time) today i`m experiencing the formation of the feedback (consequences) and i like it not sure why i am telling this other than my desire to do so, which feels my sole motive. well no.......on this thread our vortice is materially expressive so here i feel comfortable talking within it`s and the witness presence in this context you are the witness so you know |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/27/2011 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mayan New Film Documentary Will Provide The Proof Of Alien Contact Says, Mexico and Guatemala Govt. Officials Quoting: aether "Revelations of the Mayans 2012 and Beyond" film documentary will provide the proof of alien contact says, Mexico and Guatemala government officials. Quoting: observationA new documentary "Revelations of the Mayans 2012 and Beyond" about Mayan civilization will provide evidence of extraterrestrial contact with the ancient culture, according to a Mexican,Guatemalan government official and the film's producer. "Revelations of the Mayans 2012 and Beyond," currently in production, will claim the Mayans had contact with extraterrestrials, producer Raul Julia-Levy revealed to media.. "Mexico will release codices, artifacts and significant documents with evidence of Mayan and extraterrestrial contact, and all of their information will be corroborated by archaeologists," said Julia-Levy, son of actor Raul Julia. In a release to media, Luis Augusto Garcia Rosado, the minister of tourism for the Mexican state of Campeche, said new evidence has emerged "of contact between the Mayans and extraterrestrials, supported by translations of certain codices, which the government has kept secure in underground vaults for some time." He also spoke, in a phone conversation, of "landing pads in the jungle that are 3,000 years old." "The Mexican government is not making this statement on their own -- everything we say, we're going to back it up," he said. The film will be directed by Juan Carlos Rulfo, who won the Humanitas Prize for "Those Who Remain" in 2009 and the Sundance Grand Jury Prize for International Documentary for "In the Pit" in 2006. Juan Diego Rodriguez Gonzalez will serve as the Guatemalan executive producer, and Eduardo Vertiz as the Mexican executive producer. Thread: BREAKING: New Information on Mexican Documentary offering proof of Aliens. w PHOTO fits remote yesterday i was prompted to know non human topic will arise synchronized to our vortical experience |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1905380 United States 10/27/2011 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Still working on this one aether. Quoting: bowmani`m sure, for some time now i have been immersed within our vortical archetype more than previously experienced, the consequence of location (time) today i`m experiencing the formation of the feedback (consequences) and i like it not sure why i am telling this other than my desire to do so, which feels my sole motive. well no.......on this thread our vortice is materially expressive so here i feel comfortable talking within it`s and the witness presence in this context you are the witness so you know Thanks aether. Sometimes I try too hard and I cannot see the forset through all the trees. I've been getting some 'feedback' as of late in the form of junk e-mails. Not sure if it's a test or a message. It feels odd to me to even bring this up. I guess you just go with what you feel confident in and not worry too much about what you cannot make certain. ------ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1905380 United States 10/27/2011 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mayan New Film Documentary Will Provide The Proof Of Alien Contact Says, Mexico and Guatemala Govt. Officials Quoting: aether "Revelations of the Mayans 2012 and Beyond" film documentary will provide the proof of alien contact says, Mexico and Guatemala government officials. Quoting: observationA new documentary "Revelations of the Mayans 2012 and Beyond" about Mayan civilization will provide evidence of extraterrestrial contact with the ancient culture, according to a Mexican,Guatemalan government official and the film's producer. "Revelations of the Mayans 2012 and Beyond," currently in production, will claim the Mayans had contact with extraterrestrials, producer Raul Julia-Levy revealed to media.. "Mexico will release codices, artifacts and significant documents with evidence of Mayan and extraterrestrial contact, and all of their information will be corroborated by archaeologists," said Julia-Levy, son of actor Raul Julia. In a release to media, Luis Augusto Garcia Rosado, the minister of tourism for the Mexican state of Campeche, said new evidence has emerged "of contact between the Mayans and extraterrestrials, supported by translations of certain codices, which the government has kept secure in underground vaults for some time." He also spoke, in a phone conversation, of "landing pads in the jungle that are 3,000 years old." "The Mexican government is not making this statement on their own -- everything we say, we're going to back it up," he said. The film will be directed by Juan Carlos Rulfo, who won the Humanitas Prize for "Those Who Remain" in 2009 and the Sundance Grand Jury Prize for International Documentary for "In the Pit" in 2006. Juan Diego Rodriguez Gonzalez will serve as the Guatemalan executive producer, and Eduardo Vertiz as the Mexican executive producer. Thread: BREAKING: New Information on Mexican Documentary offering proof of Aliens. w PHOTO fits remote yesterday i was prompted to know non human topic will arise synchronized to our vortical experience The plot THICKENS. Would explains the classical Mayan disappearance quite neatly. I hope this is true. ------ |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/27/2011 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The plot THICKENS. Quoting: bowmanWould explains the classical Mayan disappearance quite neatly. I hope this is true. closer interaction with them over our past 18 months and the resultant increase of intuitive emotional interaction this has manifested in others of human origination emotional experiences (lives) has radically enhanced our receptive mood atmosphere globally i notice this never entered my imagination throughout but i see/feel now it`s effect senses as experiencing a different environment to that which existed i like it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1905380 United States 10/27/2011 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The plot THICKENS. Quoting: bowmanWould explains the classical Mayan disappearance quite neatly. I hope this is true. closer interaction with them over our past 18 months and the resultant increase of intuitive emotional interaction this has manifested in others of human origination emotional experiences (lives) has radically enhanced our receptive mood atmosphere globally i notice this never entered my imagination throughout but i see/feel now it`s effect senses as experiencing a different environment to that which existed i like it Yeah, I've sensed that those who I those who use to laugh at me in years past are not laughing so hard now. Who's laughing now? The unaware ARE detecting something... I love it. ------ |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/27/2011 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | because there exists no script (natural) it can only be told looking back the key was to locate the archetypal earth origin human personality most naturally opposed to the emotional sensation of non human experience once located, interaction with them prompted their own awareness of themselves, abilities blossomed , thus negating naturally their emotional opposition to different as they themselves experienced different they altered the consequential effect upon humanity is that of a (the) human archetype altering emotional radiatiing sensations globally (effecting all others) from opposition to acceptance |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1212469 United States 10/27/2011 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | because there exists no script (natural) it can only be told looking back Quoting: aether the key was to locate the archetypal earth origin human personality most naturally opposed to the emotional sensation of non human experience once located, interaction with them prompted their own awareness of themselves, abilities blossomed , thus negating naturally their emotional opposition to different as they themselves experienced different they altered the consequential effect upon humanity is that of a (the) human archetype altering emotional radiatiing sensations globally (effecting all others) from opposition to acceptance Is this what you meant when you said the other day that we're no longer with the book of Revelations, or something to that effect? We cleared some sort of threshold? ------ |