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The Contact Thread ~ The Magic Of Our Fractal Reality ~ Wanna Take A Ride? (version 20.13)

 
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Amazing visual, Bowman. There is something about that that feels like a reminding. Nice to just sit with that. hf
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Accretion Disk Directly Observed by Hubble

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Thanks to the magic of the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope, a team of international astronomers have made an incredible observation – a quasar accretion disc surrounding a black hole. By employing a technique known as gravitation lensing, the researchers have been able to get an accurate size measurement and spectral data. While you might not think this exciting at first, know that this type of observation is akin to spotting individual grains of sand on the Moon!

Of course, we know we can’t see a black hole – but we’ve learned a lot about them with time. One of their properties is a bright, visible phenomenon called a quasar. These glowing discs of matter are engaged in orbit around the black hole, much like a coil on an electric stove. As energy is applied, the “coil” heats up and unleashes bright radiation.

“A quasar accretion disc has a typical size of a few light-days, or around 100 billion kilometres across, but they lie billions of light-years away. This means their apparent size when viewed from Earth is so small that we will probably never have a telescope powerful enough to see their structure directly,” explains Jose Munoz, the lead scientist in this study.

Because of the diminutive size of the quasar, most of our understanding of how they work has been based on theory… but great minds have found a way to directly observe their effects. By employing the gravity of stars in an intervening galaxy like a scanning microscope, astronomers have been able to observe the quasar’s light as the stars move. While most of these types of features would be too small to see, the gravitation lensing effect ramps up the strength of the quasar’s light and allows study of the spectra as it cruises across the accretion disc.


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 Quoting: BOWMAN


Well,...that was cool Bowman. The cymatic frequencies of our fractal hologram are being made visible as we approach 2012 at warp speed.

Damn!!! It's good to be alive!!!!cheers


Z
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Thanks Zack! Good to see you buddy!

Interesting series on PBS that focuses on the nature of what 'space' really is. It's good to see maintsteam science take a novel approach in this direction...

[link to www.pbs.org]

cheers


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Don’t know why but makes me what to post this song.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Thanks Zack! Good to see you buddy!

Interesting series on PBS that focuses on the nature of what 'space' really is. It's good to see maintsteam science take a novel approach in this direction...

[link to www.pbs.org]

cheers


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Thanks man. I have been wallowing in gutter thoughts lately. Things are moving really fast for me now. I get spun around,...

Just checking out, and contemplating, the black hole quasar light show you posted in that pic,... nudged me back toward center a tad.

...and then you came up with that human-being meditating DNA cosmic pic. SHAAAAZAM!!!

Hahaha,...

It's all good in this moment!!! Hope your family is Prospering and Happy!!!

Later Friend.

Z
Free your mind,...your ass will follow.

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Don’t know why but makes me what to post this song.
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Thank you AMM. What a beautiful song to wake up to.


All Saints' Day (in the Roman Catholic Church officially the Solemnity of All Saints and also called All Hallows or Hallowmas[3]), often shortened to All Saints, is a solemnity celebrated on 1 November by parts of Western Christianity, and on the first Sunday after Pentecost in Eastern Christianity, in honour of all the saints, known and unknown. In the Western calendar it is the day after Halloween and the day before All Souls' Day.

In Western Christian theology, the day commemorates all those who have attained the beatific vision in Heaven. It is a national holiday in many historically Catholic countries. In the Catholic Church and many Anglican churches, the next day specifically commemorates the departed faithful who have not yet been purified and reached heaven. Christians who celebrate All Saints' Day and All Souls' Day do so in the fundamental belief that there is a prayerful spiritual bond between those in purgatory (the 'Church Suffering'), those in heaven (the 'church triumphant'), and the living (the 'church militant'). Other Christian traditions define, remember and respond to the saints in different ways; for example, in the Methodist Church, saints refer to all Christians and therefore, on All Saint's Day, the Church Universal, as well as the deceased members of a local congregation are honoured and remembered.
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Thanks Zack! Good to see you buddy!

Interesting series on PBS that focuses on the nature of what 'space' really is. It's good to see maintsteam science take a novel approach in this direction...

[link to www.pbs.org]

cheers


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Thanks man. I have been wallowing in gutter thoughts lately. Things are moving really fast for me now. I get spun around,...

Just checking out, and contemplating, the black hole quasar light show you posted in that pic,... nudged me back toward center a tad.

...and then you came up with that human-being meditating DNA cosmic pic. SHAAAAZAM!!!

Hahaha,...

It's all good in this moment!!! Hope your family is Prospering and Happy!!!

Later Friend.

Z
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Yeah, it's been an intense ride 'internally speaking' over the course of the last few weeks Zack. I have a friend here in 'meatworld'. He's been a great friend of mine for almost 32 years. We met in the first grade. And I do talk to him about all this stuff. But what's been going on internally over the last few weeks, I don't think I could even articulate it in a way that he would understand. Perhaps my mind just isn't in Kansas anymore. chuckle

On the global scale, this whole OWS movement to me seems like the initial stages of a behavioral shift in consciousness that might bring about a phase change of metamorphical proportions.

Resonately speaking, I figured November 16th and December 7th as dates that would be resonating with the start of the global demonstrations on the 8th of this past October and the initial start of the movement in September. That's if we are 'consciously speaking', working our way through the other side of the 'hourglass'. Something to consider and watch for I guess.


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"It's easy to imagine that black holes gobble up everything they encounter, consigning this stuff to eternal oblivion. Right?

Well, not quite. Today, Vyacheslav Dokuchaev at the Institute for Nuclear Research of the Russian Academy of Sciences in Moscow points out that certain black holes can have a complex internal structure. And that this structure ought to allow photons, particles and perhaps even planets to orbit the central singularity without ever getting sucked all the way in.

A black hole is a region of space where gravity is so strong that nothing can escape, not even light. However, cosmologists have known for some time that there are regions inside charged, rotating black holes where objects such as photons can survive in stable periodic orbits.

Dokuchaev's contribution is to study these orbits in detail and to explore their dynamics. One of the problems that would at first seem to scupper any chance of planetary orbits inside a black hole is the way that the dimensions of space and time behave."


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"It's easy to imagine that black holes gobble up everything they encounter, consigning this stuff to eternal oblivion. Right?

Well, not quite. Today, Vyacheslav Dokuchaev at the Institute for Nuclear Research of the Russian Academy of Sciences in Moscow points out that certain black holes can have a complex internal structure. And that this structure ought to allow photons, particles and perhaps even planets to orbit the central singularity without ever getting sucked all the way in.


A black hole is a region of space where gravity is so strong that nothing can escape, not even light. However, cosmologists have known for some time that there are regions inside charged, rotating black holes where objects such as photons can survive in stable periodic orbits.

Dokuchaev's contribution is to study these orbits in detail and to explore their dynamics. One of the problems that would at first seem to scupper any chance of planetary orbits inside a black hole is the way that the dimensions of space and time behave."


[link to www.technologyreview.com]


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Was thinking about this the other day. That would be like eternal damnation.
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"It's easy to imagine that black holes gobble up everything they encounter, consigning this stuff to eternal oblivion. Right?

Well, not quite. Today, Vyacheslav Dokuchaev at the Institute for Nuclear Research of the Russian Academy of Sciences in Moscow points out that certain black holes can have a complex internal structure. And that this structure ought to allow photons, particles and perhaps even planets to orbit the central singularity without ever getting sucked all the way in.


A black hole is a region of space where gravity is so strong that nothing can escape, not even light. However, cosmologists have known for some time that there are regions inside charged, rotating black holes where objects such as photons can survive in stable periodic orbits.

Dokuchaev's contribution is to study these orbits in detail and to explore their dynamics. One of the problems that would at first seem to scupper any chance of planetary orbits inside a black hole is the way that the dimensions of space and time behave."


[link to www.technologyreview.com]


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Was thinking about this the other day. That would be like eternal damnation.
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your to nice for that cheer

The Black Hole, the Big Bang, and Modern Physics

There has been a deliberate suppression of important scientific papers by the community of physicists and astronomers concerning the black hole, beginning with the original paper by Karl Schwarzschild of 1916, evidently for vainglory, money and self-aggrandisement. I bring you free access to those papers, and others of relevance, in the hope that this fraud can be exposed and physics restored to a rational search for knowledge. The black hole has no foundation in theory whatsoever. Neither Newton's theory nor Einstein's theory predict it. In fact, both theories preclude it, contrary to what the orthodox relativists claim.
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You'd need some Major League thrusters to get out of that theoretical neighborhood. chuckle

So 'black holes', instead of them being extremely small and dense points of matter, are they really the opposite? Like a void?


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The Black Hole at the Heart of Astronomy

The so-called “queen” of the sciences, cosmology, is founded upon the myth that the weakest force in the universe—gravity—is responsible for forming and shaping galaxies, stars and planets. But even if this were true, gravity remains unexplained. How it works is a mystery.

Newton gave us a mathematical description of what gravity does. Einstein invoked an unreal geometry to do the same thing. Newton had the sense to “frame no hypotheses” about how gravity worked. Einstein made it impossible to relate cause and effect—which means that the theory of general relativity is not physics! How, precisely, does matter warp empty space? The language is meaningless. But this hasn’t stopped scientists declaring a law of gravitation with a ‘universal’ physical constant—‘G.’

For many years now, astronomers have been reporting that supermassive black holes — several million times the mass of the Sun — exist in nearly every galaxy.
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The Black Hole at the Heart of Astronomy

The so-called “queen” of the sciences, cosmology, is founded upon the myth that the weakest force in the universe—gravity—is responsible for forming and shaping galaxies, stars and planets. But even if this were true, gravity remains unexplained. How it works is a mystery.

Newton gave us a mathematical description of what gravity does. Einstein invoked an unreal geometry to do the same thing. Newton had the sense to “frame no hypotheses” about how gravity worked. Einstein made it impossible to relate cause and effect—which means that the theory of general relativity is not physics! How, precisely, does matter warp empty space? The language is meaningless. But this hasn’t stopped scientists declaring a law of gravitation with a ‘universal’ physical constant—‘G.’

For many years now, astronomers have been reporting that supermassive black holes — several million times the mass of the Sun — exist in nearly every galaxy.
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[link to www.holoscience.com]
 Quoting: aether


I've really been thinking about the nature of black holes and the described characteristics of them as given by science. That's how I associated the fractal pattern of consciousness evolution to, like associating the different patterns in nature. And I wrote it up in the OP with the emotional association of consciousness speeding into a singularity point. I've been questioning that assumption now that we into it. There's really no gaurantee of where the pattern will go from here. Whether it be traversing a singularity, or a shift in the pattern to a more wornhole like structure, which would serve as a sort of plateau. Or in its entirety, some sort of subtle launch mechanism for self awareness. 1dunno1

If it's a living fractal than why not?


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The best way to get an idea of what the pattern is would be to observe and track where human consciousness goes from here. I would think that over the next year or so we may have some markers to consider.


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True story...

In my fantasy football league, I'm going up against a friend of mine who way back in the late '90's recommended I go see this really neat movie called 'The Matrix'. He said I would really enjoy it yet at the time I had no idea of what the plot of the movie was, nor did I until several years later when I finally saw the film.

Anyways, here's the projected point totals for this weeks matchup...

111 to 111

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I've really been thinking about the nature of black holes and the described characteristics of them as given by science. That's how I associated the fractal pattern of consciousness evolution to, like associating the different patterns in nature. And I wrote it up in the OP with the emotional association of consciousness speeding into a singularity point. I've been questioning that assumption now that we into it. There's really no gaurantee of where the pattern will go from here. Whether it be traversing a singularity, or a shift in the pattern to a more wornhole like structure, which would serve as a sort of plateau. Or in its entirety, some sort of subtle launch mechanism for self awareness.

If it's a living fractal than why not?
 Quoting: bowman


our universe is living and utilizes fractality for storage (infinite) of information thus it fractals (provides information) infinitely

this is why eternity is eternal

infinite store of information sustains and maintains eternity eternally
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she is here on glp and posts
you never mentioned guides rockon


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Oh, you noticed such a novel statement from me aether? chuckle


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Thread: Everything changes... (Page 77)

it prompted me to remember that is common to the personalities of people i am comfortable in the company of

then prompted me to look at my own experiences noticing i don`t manifest lasting close connections, as in, always around, with any non material anything
it is, whatever does or does not appear at the moment, is always relevant to the moment

that being said, once met, future meeting always reflects the goodwill of the first meeting so it senses like, i have a lot of connections "out there" which, once formed, don`t break and as i write this, i detect everything i`ve met and all i have not, is but a heartbeat away always, if desired

that`s nice

nice sensations bowman rockon
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you never mentioned guides rockon


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Oh, you noticed such a novel statement from me aether? chuckle


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Thread: Everything changes... (Page 77)

it prompted me to remember that is common to the personalities of people i am comfortable in the company of

then prompted me to look at my own experiences noticing i don`t manifest lasting close connections, as in, always around, with any non material anything
it is, whatever does or does not appear at the moment, is always relevant to the moment

that being said, once met, future meeting always reflects the goodwill of the first meeting so it senses like, i have a lot of connections "out there" which, once formed, don`t break and as i write this, i detect everything i`ve met and all i have not, is but a heartbeat away always, if desired

that`s nice

nice sensations bowman rockon
 Quoting: aether


I can resonate with that aether. I guess that' why they say first impressions are so important, which when you consider what we do here, can be a little tricky, being so consciously segragated from the majority. But it's a worthwhile journey despite such a separation imho. sun


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that`s funny bowman because i experienced something in your country last night that is on this topic

i have spent a lot of time stateside, months at a time but always the same way , cocooned by my hosts whom are used to my personality
i was always within an artificial environment in this context

funny what you discover when prompted to look:

USE OF SILVER BY THE AMERICAN ABORIGINES

Engravings of the silver-plated discs and also of the embossed silver plate supposed by Dr. Hildreth to have been a sword ornament, are herewith presented. These articles have been critically examined, and it is beyond doubt that the copper "bosses" are absolutely plated, not simply overlaid, with silver. Between the copper and the silver exists a connection, such as, it seems to me, could only be produced by heat; and if it is admitted that these are genuine remains of the mound-builders, it must, at the same time, be admitted that they possessed the difficult art of plating one metal upon another. There is but one alternative, viz., that they had occasional or constant intercourse with a people advanced in the arts, from whom these articles were obtained. Again, if Dr. Hildreth is not mistaken, oxydized iron, or steel, was also discovered in connection with the above remains; from which also follows, as a necessity upon the previous assumption, the extraordinary conclusion that the mound-builders were acquainted with the use of iron,—the conclusion being, of course, subject to the improbable alternative already mentioned.

Leading, therefore, as they do, to such extraordinary conclusions, it is of the utmost importance that every fact and circumstance connected with these remains should be narrowly examined.
 Quoting: mound builders

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shivers, you guys are sitting on very ancient cultures and possibly a missing link in our global awareness is the fact that such a vital area (usa) is unaware of the energetic emotional potential you all live within as in:
no connection to ancestral emotions that exist within your nation
i am getting this from the usa ley line remote i am prompted to connect to at this moment
so you know

it is not about "not our ancestors" it is about being cut off from the living which is the feedback i am getting
wow
that was unexpected!!
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i was not expecting to interact with statesides ley line complex but i did

as a consequence i become aware of exactly what you are telling
you, like the posters on that thread and others on glp are living within a society that does not welcome your topics or expressions of them
it is the same , to a degree, everywhere but i notice that stateside it feels more oppressive than most other areas
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that`s funny bowman because i experienced something in your country last night that is on this topic

i have spent a lot of time stateside, months at a time but always the same way , cocooned by my hosts whom are used to my personality
i was always within an artificial environment in this context

funny what you discover when prompted to look:

USE OF SILVER BY THE AMERICAN ABORIGINES

Engravings of the silver-plated discs and also of the embossed silver plate supposed by Dr. Hildreth to have been a sword ornament, are herewith presented. These articles have been critically examined, and it is beyond doubt that the copper "bosses" are absolutely plated, not simply overlaid, with silver. Between the copper and the silver exists a connection, such as, it seems to me, could only be produced by heat; and if it is admitted that these are genuine remains of the mound-builders, it must, at the same time, be admitted that they possessed the difficult art of plating one metal upon another. There is but one alternative, viz., that they had occasional or constant intercourse with a people advanced in the arts, from whom these articles were obtained. Again, if Dr. Hildreth is not mistaken, oxydized iron, or steel, was also discovered in connection with the above remains; from which also follows, as a necessity upon the previous assumption, the extraordinary conclusion that the mound-builders were acquainted with the use of iron,—the conclusion being, of course, subject to the improbable alternative already mentioned.

Leading, therefore, as they do, to such extraordinary conclusions, it is of the utmost importance that every fact and circumstance connected with these remains should be narrowly examined.
 Quoting: mound builders

[link to www.scienceviews.com]

shivers, you guys are sitting on very ancient cultures and possibly a missing link in our global awareness is the fact that such a vital area (usa) is unaware of the energetic emotional potential you all live within as in:
no connection to ancestral emotions that exist within your nation
i am getting this from the usa ley line remote i am prompted to connect to at this moment
so you know

it is not about "not our ancestors" it is about being cut off from the living which is the feedback i am getting
wow
that was unexpected!!
 Quoting: aether

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i was not expecting to interact with statesides ley line complex but i did

as a consequence i become aware of exactly what you are telling
you, like the posters on that thread and others on glp are living within a society that does not welcome your topics or expressions of them
it is the same , to a degree, everywhere but i notice that stateside it feels more oppressive than most other areas
 Quoting: bowman}I can resonate with that aether. I guess that' why they say first impressions are so important, which when you consider what we do here, can be a little tricky, being so consciously segragated from the majority. But it's a worthwhile journey despite such a separation imho


That's an interesting construction, because when two dissimilar metals are connected to one another, it can form electricity...

"Electrolysis is the passage of a direct electric current through an ionic substance that is either molten or dissolved in a suitable solvent, resulting in chemical reactions at the electrodes and separation of materials.

The main components required to achieve electrolysis are :

An electrolyte : a substance containing free ions which are the carriers of electric current in the electrolyte. If the ions are not mobile, as in a solid salt then electrolysis cannot occur.

A direct current (DC) supply : provides the energy necessary to create or discharge the ions in the electrolyte. Electric current is carried by electrons in the external circuit.

Two electrodes : an electrical conductor which provides the physical interface between the electrical circuit providing the energy and the electrolyte.

Electrodes of metal, graphite and semiconductor material are widely used. Choice of suitable electrode depends on chemical reactivity between the electrode and electrolyte and the cost of manufacture."


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Yeah aether, we are so cut off here. There is very little if any teaching about Native American's in our schools. Then when you combine that with the pop cultural engineers creation of reality, most people's minds are securly locked up tight.


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...wow...just...wow...

remember this...1/20/10...

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That's an interesting construction, because when two dissimilar metals are connected to one another, it can form electricity...

"Electrolysis is the passage of a direct electric current through an ionic substance that is either molten or dissolved in a suitable solvent, resulting in chemical reactions at the electrodes and separation of materials.

The main components required to achieve electrolysis are :

An electrolyte : a substance containing free ions which are the carriers of electric current in the electrolyte. If the ions are not mobile, as in a solid salt then electrolysis cannot occur.

A direct current (DC) supply : provides the energy necessary to create or discharge the ions in the electrolyte. Electric current is carried by electrons in the external circuit.

Two electrodes : an electrical conductor which provides the physical interface between the electrical circuit providing the energy and the electrolyte.

Electrodes of metal, graphite and semiconductor material are widely used. Choice of suitable electrode depends on chemical reactivity between the electrode and electrolyte and the cost of manufacture."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Yeah aether, we are so cut off here. There is very little if any teaching about Native American's in our schools. Then when you combine that with the pop cultural engineers creation of reality, most people's minds are securly locked up tight.
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The history of the United States traditionally starts with the Declaration of Independence in the year 1776, but its territory was occupied first by the Native Americans since prehistoric times and then also by European colonists who followed the voyages of Christopher Columbus starting in 1492. The largest settlements were by the English on the East Coast, starting in 1607. By the 1770s the Thirteen Colonies contained two and half million people, were prosperous, and had developed their own political and legal systems. The British government's threat to American self-government led to war in 1775 and the Declaration of Independence in 1776. With major military and financial support from France, the patriots won the American Revolution. In 1789 the Constitution became the basis for the United States federal government, with war hero George Washington as the first president. The young nation continued to struggle with the scope of central government and with European influence, creating the first political parties in the 1790s, and fighting a second war for independence in 1812.

U.S. territory expanded westward across the continent, brushing aside Native Americans and Mexico, and overcoming modernizers who wanted to deepen the economy rather than expand the geography
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i just realized something reading this thread

our founding fathers did not have a clue what they were walking into in either scale, personality or nature of the location
in fact they, like all others of that era, were aware of very little concerning the scale , nature and functions of our environment either locally or globally

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i just realized something reading this thread

our founding fathers did not have a clue what they were walking into in either scale, personality or nature of the location
in fact they, like all others of that era, were aware of very little concerning the scale , nature and functions of our environment either locally or globally
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the reason i looked at that is because appolo quite correctly identifies denver`s symbols as representative of the motivation (beliefs) that dominated our founding fathers expression

within denver`s symbols is the expression of our founding fathers belief of creation and associated consequences

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i just realized something reading this thread

our founding fathers did not have a clue what they were walking into in either scale, personality or nature of the location
in fact they, like all others of that era, were aware of very little concerning the scale , nature and functions of our environment either locally or globally
 Quoting: aether


the reason i looked at that is because appolo quite correctly identifies denver`s symbols as representative of the motivation (beliefs) that dominated our founding fathers expression

within denver`s symbols is the expression of our founding fathers belief of creation and associated consequences
 Quoting: aether


so what our founding fathers ancestors (us) are having to do is attempt to match their beliefs of then, an accumulation of belief gathered within europe and our middle east, to a practical application matching the discoveries, thus awareness, of our past 100 years or so and confirmed via our technology off planet within our past 50 years

nasa etc.has the same problem

social structure founded upon belief not replicated in nature
as we now are aware

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...wow...just...wow...

remember this...1/20/10...

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hf
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Sorry but your link is broken AC.

hf


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i just realized something reading this thread

our founding fathers did not have a clue what they were walking into in either scale, personality or nature of the location
in fact they, like all others of that era, were aware of very little concerning the scale , nature and functions of our environment either locally or globally
 Quoting: aether


the reason i looked at that is because appolo quite correctly identifies denver`s symbols as representative of the motivation (beliefs) that dominated our founding fathers expression

within denver`s symbols is the expression of our founding fathers belief of creation and associated consequences
 Quoting: aether


so what our founding fathers ancestors (us) are having to do is attempt to match their beliefs of then, an accumulation of belief gathered within europe and our middle east, to a practical application matching the discoveries, thus awareness, of our past 100 years or so and confirmed via our technology off planet within our past 50 years

nasa etc.has the same problem

social structure founded upon belief not replicated in nature
as we now are aware

 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


The Freemason and supposed Illuminati influence formed in lock step with the founding of the country so I take it that it was the 'secret' European influence that directed the process of Manifest Destiny. And it was the way they went about bulldozing across the continent that would lend some credence to your idea that the founding fathers 'did not have a clue'. When you think about it that kind of behavior carried out to this very day as America has military bases in most countries, only it took much more 'finesse' with public acceptance being a major concern as things became more contemporary (propaganda). It's that left brained manifestation of wanting to dominate is a wisdomless kind of way.

The town I grew up in was founded in 1649 and luckily we had some teachers in school who took a lot of interest in the local history, so they worked it into the curriculum. We had a war fought in part there too...

"Philip was ultimately killed by one of these teams when he was tracked down by colony-allied Native Americans led by Captain Benjamin Church and Captain Josiah Standish of the Plymouth Colony militia at Mt. Hope, Rhode Island. Philip was shot and killed by an Indian named John Alderman on August 12, 1676. Philip was beheaded, then drawn and quartered (a traditional treatment of criminals in this era). His head was displayed in Plymouth for twenty years. The war was nearly over except for a few attacks in Maine that lasted until 1677."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It's not uncommon to walk through the wilderness here and still find relics left by Native Americans, arrow heads and things like that.


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yes, you only find out by finding out so, until all was globalized, the effect of linking everything could never be known

once globalized it no longer mattered how it became so

it mattered to those that achieved it, humanity, but it didn`t matter to the effects it caused

they (effects) are only aware of linked globally on-wards, there is no history prior to linked for them, only the previous global memories, they do not relate to the in between separated history.

thus humanity met unexpected consequences with nothing within their remembered past to relate them

what had awoken was the ancestral memories of a long forgotten global culture .

manifesting emotional experiences alien to those presently living

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yes, you only find out by finding out so, until all was globalized, the effect of linking everything could never be known

once globalized it no longer mattered how it became so

it mattered to those that achieved it, humanity, but it didn`t matter to the effects it caused

they (effects) are only aware of linked globally on-wards, there is no history prior to linked for them, only the previous global memories, they do not relate to the in between separated history.

thus humanity met unexpected consequences with nothing within their remembered past to relate them

what had awoken was the ancestral memories of a long forgotten global culture .

manifesting emotional experiences alien to those presently living
 Quoting: aether


That's a good way to put it aether. Had it not been for that type of left brained need to dominate, the would have been no mechanism in place to tie everything together. Now that 'things are in place', it should be an interesting future ahead. I'm pretty sure that this whole OWS movement is the beginning stages of a transformation in the way we go about surviving, seeing peoples' motivation in protesting is all centered around the global economy.


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yes, you only find out by finding out so, until all was globalized, the effect of linking everything could never be known

once globalized it no longer mattered how it became so

it mattered to those that achieved it, humanity, but it didn`t matter to the effects it caused

they (effects) are only aware of linked globally on-wards, there is no history prior to linked for them, only the previous global memories, they do not relate to the in between separated history.

thus humanity met unexpected consequences with nothing within their remembered past to relate them

what had awoken was the ancestral memories of a long forgotten global culture .

manifesting emotional experiences alien to those presently living
 Quoting: aether


That's a good way to put it aether. Had it not been for that type of left brained need to dominate, the would have been no mechanism in place to tie everything together. Now that 'things are in place', it should be an interesting future ahead. I'm pretty sure that this whole OWS movement is the beginning stages of a transformation in the way we go about surviving, seeing peoples' motivation in protesting is all centered around the global economy.


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this is very relevant


Martin, Do you not think it is so that WE All have
a Testimony?


Beautiful, Bright, and gleaming with
every imaginable color and spectrum-------
when Sung together produces a glorious symphony----

Our Testimony is that we have survived countless
disasters, poisoning, Mass Genocides, Imprisonment,
Beatings, and Super deranged Mental Conditioning-------
over the course of time after the Flood----

Each one of Our Personal Stories that we have to Tell
is Special----and Brought forward with Purpose By Each and Every one who cares to make a post......


How can one say to another being------"I am Anointed,
But you are not, because I just know"------


Thats the same Derogatory mindset that Has brought the
World into its Present Turmoil-------Placing oneself
Over another met with the reasoning that "One is divine,
and another is Not"---------in your judgement

I have been Judged, by Too many with this Same Mindset---
And you also have been judged in this society---

Perhaps you should make your true feelings Spoken----
in Regards to The Situation That You believe Is at
Hand--
- it may or may not validate your judgements...
But at least the reasoning for what you say Would
be laid on the table so to speake.
 Quoting: Le Palma

Thread: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse. (Page 1514)

it is why i have been avoiding the topic on my marko thread
it is emotional to others





GLP