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Drunvalo Melchizedek......who is financially backing him?

 
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08/11/2005 04:57 PM
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As most of the New Age gurus are backed by billionaires, I just wondered who was financing his research? Any ideas, GLP geniuses? dance
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12/08/2005 10:08 AM
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Always wondered about him myself. Something about him always seemed bogus.

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yeah yo mamma op
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12/08/2005 10:08 AM
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His books aren´t cheap.
But he probably grows weed like the rest of ´em.
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That explains why most of the new age gurus are corrupt lying cheating bastards. Send me $20/month, I live simple in a trailer and need help for this website to spout rubbish about 5Th Dimensional Portals/Sananda/White Brotherhood/Arch-Angel Michael/Zetas........etc
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If Drunvalo is spouting ´Archangel Michael´, et al, then he is one of the bad guys.
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I have seen some of Drunvalo´s video´s and read the books, I believe he´s one of the most enlightened people I have had the pleasure of seeing speak. Greg Bradden is awesome as well. Greg´s work hit´s home for me.
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Suspicious or 1 666...

It´s pretty obvious that Drunvalo backs himself
financially by good old fashioned hard work,
committment and service.

[link to www.spiritofmaat.com]
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from his site

The Living in the Heart Workshop

Our lives are changing at the speed of light! We can all feel it in our soul and in our bones. It´s all moving so fast that sometimes it seems like a blur.

But our souls are still the same as they were in the beginning, One with Great Spirit. And as this world accelerates, so does our approach to the Light.

Love is more than an emotion, it is the beam of energy that guides us Home into the arms of Infinity. And compassion is the nest that protects us from the unknown and our fears.

The Sacred Space in each of our Hearts is the key, my friends. There, beyond the mind and its insistent thoughts that never tire, is a pool of calm clear water that is older than the most distant star.

And in this water, just as in Geneses, God moves like the wind over, around and through it. Here we can dream a new world, and the dream will become Reality. This is certain, for how do you think this world began?

No matter your desire, the water of this pool within your Heart is no less than the water of your Mother’s womb taking you from one world into another.

Like a tiny baby bird cracking the shell of its inner world, the outer world will begin anew as sure as the Sun rising over the horizon.

Don’t worry. Remember, the whole universe was created by your Cosmic Parents just for you. Only for you. You are loved so dearly.

In the Living in the Heart Workshop we enter into the essence of the Sacred Space of your Heart to remember the Way of Dreaming.

In Love and Service,
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"in 98 or so Drunvalo attempted to infiltrate my house with his assistant RON HOLT * via Dan Winter, and have me killed.. (long story)"

Please tell the story, or do you have it posted on a website somewhere?
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12/08/2005 10:08 AM
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the story is posted somewhere.. and on the list i have d ragonslayers.. unless YAHOO has deleted it..

briefly this is it.. i had a meeting about the alien issues.. some drgonslayers came and dan winter asked me if ron holt could come.. i said NO! and then he kept asking and said ron wouldnt cause trouble.. DAH.. well i said finally OK.. my fault.. there.. and i had some NDN friends there too.. Ron went s t raight for Sweet Medicine and t ried to re c ruit him.. Dru and Ron offered SM $$$ women and drugs.. and went over to Dru´s and Ron´s House where Lysssa Royal tried to have s e x with SM .. they knew his allegiences to AIM etc.. and his run in with the system.. anyway Dru showed him his bedroom with lots of weapons Rocket launchers etc.. and asked him to kill me with a silencer i. SM said NO!.. he still liked me.. etc. and came back to tell me what happened.. he was very scared..for me and my family and called Denise Banks.. AIM.. my husband called the POLICE.. and a friend of his in SWA T.. they knew a bout D runvalo.. but said they probably couldnt help.. so Denise called Dru and said.. IF U HARM BARBARA OR SM OR HER FAMILY WE WILL KILL U!.. he meant it.. and ofcourse after that ALL WAS QUIET!..
thats basically it.. i have had no more contact with DRU and his fiends.. as far as i know.. he moved from TEXAS to SEDONA to PHX.. and i was horrified.. he followed me everywhere.. he has been married se v eral times.. and says his son by a previous wife will lead the world.. of the so called INDIGO CHILDREN.... btw.. if i remember AIM was already at that time infiltrat ing that snakes lair.. because they ALREADY KNEW!

ah ho WIO
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Thanks.
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WIO, thanx!!! I´d really like to know more about this Czek fellow that finances him. Most New Age gurus are scumbags, distracting and deceiving light workers.

We should blow this scam wide open. Any more info, anyone? Wio, what is AIM?

Does anyone have any other evidence that Dan Winter is from the dark side? Now that Laura and the Cassies have been debunked, maybe we could do the same with Melchizedek, Royal, etc.

I never did trust this Indigo children idea.....flowerspock
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QUOTED from a discussion site:
[link to www.zenatode.org.uk]


>>In the early 1990´s Drunvalo founded "Flower of Life Research" as an umbrella organization through which to teach his Flower of Life workshop. In 1997 he apparently handed over the reigns to persue other interests. Currently floweroflife.org is registered to Lyssa and Ronald Holt of Phoenix Arizona. The Flower of Life website includes what is apparently a version of Drunvalo´s resume that starts from the time he was at UCB in the late 1960´s and which seems far more specific than anything I could find on his own website.

According to this resume Drunvalo got his degree in 1970 then headed up to Canada, married a woman called Renee and lived at Kootenay Lake. As you will soon realize, it is significant that he does not mention that he ever went by a different name.

Are you still with me? Well hold on tight because things now start to get really bizarre. First port of call is the curious website of a guy called Bob Dratch AKA Dolphin Hyper-Resonance Institute, inventor of the Godbox(tm) Holographic Waveform Projector. On a page entitled "Spooks, Mystery and Intrigue" we find:

In the late 80´s I met someone who calls himself "Drunvalo" (at that time, he had not changed his name yet to Melchezidek, but kept his natural name of Bernard Perona, although he used to call himself as AKBAR before his "drunvalo incarnation) - I was introduced to him by Bruce Mace of Aspen Colorado.

Bob refers to a CIA connection and goes on to reveal how he once "scanned the neural ganglia of Drunvalo" prior to the "Entrance of the Dark Light Spiral".

The implication that Drunvalo is a 5000 year old Atlantean appeared in a posting to the psychoceramics mailing list, an interesting forum for the discussion of crackpot phenomena. In a followup to this posting I became aware of his interest in the Hall of Records which is a generic term refering to all three locations (in Egypt, Yucatan and Bimini) at which, according to the readings of Edgar Cayce, the records of the Atlantean civilization exist. Apparently Drunvalo is a contributor to the hallofrecords@yahoogroups.com mailing list but I have not managed to find the archives without subscribing to the group.

I then decided to change tack and focus on the name Akbar, at which point I discovered the following book:

The Traveler & the End of Time: The Secret Life of Ken Page
Paperback, 195 Pages, Clear Light Arts, March 1996
ISBN: 0964970317
Author: Page, Ken / Hemingway, Simon P.
Editor: Page, Mary D.

This book is actually available online at www.kenpage.com where in Chapter 10: Blue Lake we find the following:

Don told me about the year he spent living off of the land in British Columbia in 1971. The story ended when he was poisoned and died. He held me in his steady gaze waiting to make sure that what he had told me had taken root. "Don is dead," he explained seriously. "I am Akbar now." I understood. Akbar was the being that had come in to inhabit his body after Don left. It was like a sublease. I understood subleases. My uncle didn´t take his eyes off of me. "Akbar," I said experimentally, trying out the feel of it on my tongue. No problem. Instead of my ultracool Uncle Don I now had the wise and mysterious Uncle Akbar. Everybody should be so lucky. Uncle Don was Uncle Akbar for only a few years. Today he´s widely known as Drunvalo Melchizedek.

Are we getting a coherent picture yet? Not really, but at least a few pieces of the puzzle are matching up.

To be continued....

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THE WINTER-MELCHIZEDEK CONNECTION - CONTINUED: Mr. Melchizedek´s Second Letter
Explanatory Notes by Stan Tenen, written 2 December 2002

I think it would be helpful to fill in some background information, before presenting Mr. Melchizedek´s second letter.

Mr. Winter has tried to excuse his thievery and abuse of my work by claiming that he was only "sharing" information that I was trying to keep secret, because I was some sort of selfish and fanatically religious "Jewish priest keeping the secrets of immortality for the Jews alone." (Several of Mr. Winter´s outraged and naive followers have self-righteously and innocently screamed this insanity at me personally on the phone.) It serves Mr. Winter when people think I am a fanatically religious Jew. Actually this has never been true.

It is true that I was first motivated to want to help to solve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict when I was in Jerusalem for the first time, and saw for myself that the situation was serious. I did not plan to be in Jerusalem. I was there on a fluke, because a friend had invited me to visit (in part to visit the world famous Bahai Shrine in Haifa) and because my work situation provided an opportunity for the first vacation I had had in 3-years. I also stopped in London and Paris - this was a vacation. - It was not some lunatic scene from the annals of a deluded person visiting Jerusalem and coming down with the well-known mental condition known as "the Jerusalem syndrome." (I was offered a job in an optical-electronics start-up in Haifa, but I didn´t take it.)

Until Mr. Winter stole and bastardized my work, it didn´t occur to me that I was researching teachings that had been preserved by the dedicated efforts of people of faith and people of science for thousands of years - without myself giving them adequate credit.

Until Mr. Winter stole from me, it never occurred to me that I had a responsibility to respect the sensibilities and feelings of the communities of faith and science that had preserved the raw data I was working from.

In other words, I´m not a particularly good Jew (and I am not a Jewish priest, as Mr. Winter admitted in his Corrective Notice, even he knew this was untrue), but - because of the Golden Rule - and because Mr. Winter was stealing from me, I decided to "give credit where credit is due." I decided - in the words of Jesse Jackson - to not just "talk the talk", but to also "walk the walk." And I decided to do this by honoring my family´s religion (which I previously paid no attention to) by not working on Saturdays and by eating (almost completely) vegetarian (so I would be honoring the kosher laws and eating healthy at the same time.)

This is the extent of my fanaticism: I take off one day a week and I eat healthy vegetarian food. Many millions of other normal, non-fanatic, believers and unbelievers, saints, sinners, infidels, scientists, agnostics, etc. etc. do the same thing.

I must admit that as a careful and skeptical scientist I am strict with the truth and integrity of my data and findings. It is just not possible to do good science that has real value in the world without telling the truth and standing up for the truth. All religions teach truthfulness, but this is not my reason for sticking to the truth, providing full and honest findings in context (that is the whole truth), and standing up for it. In science, misrepresentation and sloppiness with regard to the truth destroys credibility.

Because I went to the New York City public schools and did not have a religious education, I never paid much attention to religion and I knew nothing about theology. I studied just enough of the Hebrew alphabet to be able to read at my Bar Mitzvah, and then I had no other connection to anything religious - and I never looked back - until Mr. Winter´s thievery reminded me to "give credit where credit is due."

There were more Native Americans from the Mohawk Nation and religious Catholics (who left school early on Wednesdays so they could go to parochial school) in my classes, than there were religious Jews.

Interestingly, Mr. Winter´s only education was in theology and psychology. Mr. Winter had a full religious education (and little other education.) Mr. Winter attended Catholic parochial schools and got his B.A. in Psychology - his only credential - at the Catholic University of Detroit. (Mr. Winter admitted under oath that he was lying when he claimed he did graduate work for Prof. Al Ax at U. Detroit, and he confessed that he did not do any other undergraduate or graduate work either.)

In contrast, I was educated to be a honest skeptic, I had no exposure to theology, and I had no training in the use of psychological techniques and pseudo-scientific jargon like the sort of clever double-talk that Mr. Winter (and Mr. Melchizedek) use to get people to believe. I have a B.S. in Physics (minor in Mathematics) from the decidedly non-religious, mechanistic, techno-nerd, Polytechnic Institute of Brooklyn (now the Polytechnic University of New York in Brooklyn.) My work is published in peer-reviewed science and consciousness journals, and I serve on the editorial advisory board of the Science and the Primacy of Consciousness series, along with highly respected "name brand" scholars and scientists with more Ph.D.s than I have fingers and toes.

If I had known something about theology - if I had heard about Satanism, Lucifer, the "dark side", angelology, messianism, prophecy, miracles, and the like, I might not have been taken by surprise by Mr. Melchizedek´s wild response when I telephoned him. "All hell broke loose", so to speak, when I asked Mr. Melchizedek to help to rein in Mr. Winter as he had promised, and as he wrote in his April 1992 letter to Mr. Winter.

Because I was not well educated in Judaism (which puts no emphasis on these things) and because I was not educated at all about Christianity or Islam (which apparently take Satan and the "dark side" more seriously than does Judaism), I was not at all prepared for Mr. Melchizedek´s weird theological arguments. I was certainly not prepared for Mr. Melchizedek´s threats and his intervention to prevent Meru Foundation from defending the integrity (and usefulness) of our original work from Mr. Winter and his abuses and misrepresentations of it.

I was not at all prepared when Mr. Melchizedek told me that he would not rein in Mr. Winter unless I joined with him and his multi-millionaire benefactor, Jirka Rysavy in "channeling Lucifer." I had previously heard that Mr. Winter was involved in satanism, but I had not taken it seriously or tried to confirm this. (Mr. Rysavy was then CEO of Corporate Express and Transecon in Broomfield, Colorado, and he is now CEO of Gaiam, the health food and exercise equipment mega-corporation that is currently taking over numerous independent businesses. As we know from the transcript of Mr. Winter´s first "confession" (posted at < [link to www.danwinter.com] >) Mr. Winter later worked for Transecon, under a "front" company, set up by Mr. Rysavy, until Mr. Rysavy fired him for refusing to end his plagiarism of my work.)

What followed was like a grade "B" horror or gangster movie. Mr. Melchizedek not only told me that he and Mr. Rysavy were channeling Lucifer, but that now that he had told me this, if I did not go alone with him and if I did not turn my work over to Mr. Winter, "they (I assume he and/or his Lucifer-channeling friends) would ´get´ me."

I was taken completely by surprise. I expected Mr. Melchizedek to be reasonable and caring and to help me to rein in Mr. Winter. Instead I was told about something really sick and dangerous, and I was told if I did not acquiesce, he and/or the others involved with him in channeling Lucifer would actively try to destroy my work and my credibility, and see to it that Mr. Winter got the credit - and that they would support Mr. Winter´s wildly untrue version of events.

At this point, completely blind-sided, I lost it and I got angry. I wish I had a recording of what I actually said, because that would put the lie to what Mr. Melchizedek went on to claim I said - but I don´t. (It was incidents such as this that later prompted us to videotape Mr. Winter´s first confession.) I am sure I told him "to go to hell." I am sure I yelled something to the effect that it would be more effective to hire someone to get him and Mr. Winter than to use the courts. I was really angry.

But, it never occurred to me (and obviously it could not be true) that Mr. Melchizedek, on hearing me tell him to "go to hell", actually, somehow, thought I had the power to make this so.

Mr. Melchizedek then went on to fulfill his threat to harm me. This takes us to Mr. Melchizedek´s letter to Mr. Winter and Mr. Winter´s attorney, Stephen Salai, Esq., and to Meru Foundation´s attorney, Brian Coyne, Esq.

If anyone has questions or comments, or would like to see more evidence or whatever, please send your email to documentation@danwinter.com.

Yours truly,
Stan Tenen
Director of Research,
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Fuzzy Nutz, that is the coolest Av I´ve seen in a long time. Congratulations.
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I always question everything, I investigate, I don't search for an answer to confirm what I want to believe. I always read everything with an skeptic view, trying to find a flaw or error, logical or of content, in seek of the truth I must not fall into the mistake of seeking my truth.
All this 20 or so years I've switched to this way of thinking, I ended up knowing much more, and believing much less.
I had the chance to be a believer, in God, UFOS, "energy" which involves chakras, meditation, reiki, hand impositions, spirits, ghosts, and almost everything. Tarot, sodiac, demons, possesions, exorcisms, etc. So I really know what I encounter when I talk to someone who believes in something. I don't judge, just try to open their minds, not to some new magic, but to truth, which is much more simple, but our minds don't want to see.

You can only believe in something you are not sure of, otherwise, you wouldn't believe, you'd know.

And knowing is not something you say you know because you feel sure, it depends not of your faith or belief, and if you denie it, it's still true.
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As most of the New Age gurus are backed by billionaires, I just wondered who was financing his research? Any ideas, GLP geniuses?
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My guess is the Vatican.

Nothing he says in any way seriously threatens Christianity.

It is a pleasant and tolerable diversion.

Call it "controlled opposition" or something like that.

Michael

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