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ELENIN SIZE ---------HUGE

 
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The question of how far will it be from Earth at its closest approach is not set in concrete. Assuming in the first place they are giving us the REAL data!

It still has to go through the asteroid belt and there it MAY be thrown off course by collisions with objects within the belt! This may either take it further away, not affect it at all - (probably because it's so huge) or it may bring it closer in. Anyway, with the info they are releasing, I believe it's still too early to call.
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OP. what about our moon? have you looked at trajectory?
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Can anyone please explain in simple terms? I noted on the link it says 16th Oct 2011 at 21:08. Is this the closest pass time to Earth & what time zone would this be please?
 Quoting: Ground Crew 1279479


probably...i dont know this ...sorry frind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286460



Thank you. Not to worry we will all be guided to where we are meant to be but out of curiosity,

How big are you saying this is?

How long is the tail?

Do you know how close it will come to Earth?

Do you know when we should be able to see it in our skies?

I also read it has a strong magnetic pull so the tail will have allot of junk that could also hit Earth. What are your thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Ground Crew 1279479


we should not worry, because in any case it would be useless

now: I think at least 800 km wide and maximum .... most 'of 6000


tail about 70-80 000 km i dont know exactly....its difficult, sorry !


i dont know how close it will comes to earth...i can only imagine (probably 0.2 UA or less)


if its as big as I wrote, we could see it from almost anywhere in the world ..... I do not know about the south pole

I'm not 100% sure, NO ONE SHOULD BE WHEN MAKING SUCH CALCULATIONS ,BECAUSE THEY SCARE.

bye friend
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Thank you my friend! hf
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03/07/2011 11:23 PM
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I don't KNOW that it is, but these people seem to think so.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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I do not mean to be a dumazz, but how can we have a shot of it/the "comet" sideways? Isn't it coming rather toward us/the sun and would be seen more from looking at the front of it?
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Wow, good thread. I'm enjoying the math. Thanks OP
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Wow, good thread. I'm enjoying the math. Thanks OP
 Quoting: DOOMSDAY


same here, thank you

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[link to www.123rf.com]

dooom


I think its past visit(s) was what wrecked mars
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ok hi all


i made some counts

d=diameter of object
L=distance earth-object
ç= angular diameter in degrees

d=2L(tan (ç/2))
[link to spaceobs.org]

ç=2 arcsec = 0,00055555 degree [link to www.convertunits.com]
L (on 3 january 03.40 am 2011 ) 545 000 000 km
d=(545 000 000) (tan 0,00055555) we must be accurate more possible as we can !!!

d=5284 km O.o wtf




coffee4
 Quoting: rb26det


That is the size of the coma, a very tenuous gas cloud. The actual nucleus is far smaller, on the order of a couple o9f kilometers.
 Quoting: The Commentator


The size of the gas cloud is very significant. The comet will vaporize as it nears the sun, stretching the coma or gas cloud even further. This cloud is cyanide gas. A comet this close with a cloud (coma) this large should have a significant effect on earth. Also, it's proximatey when passing through could magnetically react with earth and be drawn in to us. It has professional astronomers very concerned. That's why they're ignoring it in the news. It is also possible this "comet" is not actually a comet at all. It is best imaged in infrared and is therefor very cool. It could be a different type object with a cometlike highly elliptical orbit.
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I don't KNOW that it is, but these people seem to think so.

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1287702


I do not mean to be a dumazz, but how can we have a shot of it/the "comet" sideways? Isn't it coming rather toward us/the sun and would be seen more from looking at the front of it?
 Quoting: Merry Oaks



The pics and comet at the link aren't THE Elenin Comet in question, but a DIFFERENT comet that Leonid found. The link was supplied because it had Leonid's Gmail addy. :)

So someone could as LEO himself what's up with his comet.
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Ya know, when OP posts I imagine read them with the voice of Super Mario. Try it!
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Ya know, when OP posts I imagine read them with the voice of Super Mario. Try it!
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I understood there would be no math?
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Sorry Gerold.



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The question of how far will it be from Earth at its closest approach is not set in concrete. Assuming in the first place they are giving us the REAL data!

It still has to go through the asteroid belt and there it MAY be thrown off course by collisions with objects within the belt! This may either take it further away, not affect it at all - (probably because it's so huge) or it may bring it closer in. Anyway, with the info they are releasing, I believe it's still too early to call.
 Quoting: Ozicell


Plus, if the object is as enormous as OP postulates, it would be like one gigantic bowling ball plowing through thousands of bowling pins once it hits the Asteroid Belt!!! Scatter shot, everywhere!
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The question of how far will it be from Earth at its closest approach is not set in concrete. Assuming in the first place they are giving us the REAL data!

It still has to go through the asteroid belt and there it MAY be thrown off course by collisions with objects within the belt! This may either take it further away, not affect it at all - (probably because it's so huge) or it may bring it closer in. Anyway, with the info they are releasing, I believe it's still too early to call.
 Quoting: Ozicell


Plus, if the object is as enormous as OP postulates, it would be like one gigantic bowling ball plowing through thousands of bowling pins once it hits the Asteroid Belt!!! Scatter shot, everywhere!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 832564


Cosmic skittles - love it! Of course on the serious side, such an encounter would probably send objects of various unknown sizes directly at us!
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OK SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO ME NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE CAN MAKE SOME MISTAKE IN THE CALCULATION OF ITS DIAMETER BECAUSE THE OGJECT HAS A SPEED OF 80-90000 KM/H NOW.

SO EVERY HOUR IT MAKES 90 000 KM ...AND OUR CALCULATION COULD BE WRONG......BUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BUT !!!!!
IN ANY CASE WE CAN MAKE A MISTAKE VERY USELESS :

3 JANUARY 2011 03:40 AM THE OBJECT WAS AT 545 000 000 KM FROM EARTH AND ITS SIZE WAS ABOUT 1-2 SECONDS OF ANGULAR DIAMETER

THAN : HIS REAL DIAMETER = 545 000 000 (TAN 0,0005555)=5279 KM
HUGE
BUT IF WE MAKE A MISTAKE OF 100 000 000 KM
AND THE OBJECT IS ABOUT 0.5 ARCOSEC. (IMPOSSIBLE)THE CALCULATION IS

650 000 000 (TAN 0.00013888)= 1575 KM HUGE !!!!!!!!!!!!(BUT ISNT 0,5 ARCOSECOND)

EVEN IF THE DISTANCE WAS ONLY 350 000 000 KM (IMPOSSIBLE)
AND THE OBJECT ANGULAR DIAMETER WAS ABOUT 0,5 ARCOSEC. (IMPOSSIBLE)
HIS REAL DIAMETER IS :
D=350 000 000 (TAN 0.00013888)= 848 KM HUGE !!!!!!!!(BUT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE)
DO U UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN ???????????

SO THE OBJECT IN ANY CASE IS A BEAT , IS HUGE !!!!!!!!!!!
AND .....LEONID ELENIN CANT SEE AN OBJECT OF 3 KM WITH A 18" MIRROR FROM ABOUT 6-700 000 000 KM , THATS IMPOSSIBLE MY FRIENDS!!!!!!!!
IMPOSSIBLE!

THAT OBJECT IS A BEAST !!

IN ANY CASE OF ERROR IS A HUGE ....BUT I KNOW (AND U KNOW) THAT HIS DIAMETER CANT BE 800 KM .....HIS DIAMETER IS MUCH MUCH LARGER


BYE BRO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286460


wtfsay
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ok hi all


i made some counts

d=diameter of object
L=distance earth-object
ç= angular diameter in degrees

d=2L(tan (ç/2))
[link to spaceobs.org]

ç=2 arcsec = 0,00055555 degree [link to www.convertunits.com]
L (on 3 january 03.40 am 2011 ) 545 000 000 km
d=(545 000 000) (tan 0,00055555) we must be accurate more possible as we can !!!

d=5284 km O.o wtf




coffee4
 Quoting: rb26det


That is the size of the coma, a very tenuous gas cloud. The actual nucleus is far smaller, on the order of a couple o9f kilometers.
 Quoting: The Commentator


The size of the gas cloud is very significant. The comet will vaporize as it nears the sun, stretching the coma or gas cloud even further. This cloud is cyanide gas. A comet this close with a cloud (coma) this large should have a significant effect on earth. Also, it's proximatey when passing through could magnetically react with earth and be drawn in to us. It has professional astronomers very concerned. That's why they're ignoring it in the news. It is also possible this "comet" is not actually a comet at all. It is best imaged in infrared and is therefor very cool. It could be a different type object with a cometlike highly elliptical orbit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1261057


The gas would be so dispersed that it would do no harm to Earth.
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3 JANUARY 2011 03:40 AM THE OBJECT WAS AT 545 000 000 KM FROM EARTH AND ITS SIZE WAS ABOUT 1-2 SECONDS OF ANGULAR DIAMETER

THAN : HIS REAL DIAMETER = 545 000 000 (TAN 0,0005555)=5279 KM
HUGE
BUT IF WE MAKE A MISTAKE OF 100 000 000 KM
AND THE OBJECT IS ABOUT 0.5 ARCOSEC. (IMPOSSIBLE)THE CALCULATION IS

650 000 000 (TAN 0.00013888)= 1575 KM HUGE !!!!!!!!!!!!(BUT ISNT 0,5 ARCOSECOND)

EVEN IF THE DISTANCE WAS ONLY 350 000 000 KM (IMPOSSIBLE)
AND THE OBJECT ANGULAR DIAMETER WAS ABOUT 0,5 ARCOSEC. (IMPOSSIBLE)
HIS REAL DIAMETER IS :
D=350 000 000 (TAN 0.00013888)= 848 KM HUGE !!!!!!!!(BUT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE)
DO U UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN ???????????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286460


5279 km = 3280.218 mi.

1575 km = 978.659 mi.

848 km = 526.922 mi.
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The question of how far will it be from Earth at its closest approach is not set in concrete. Assuming in the first place they are giving us the REAL data!

It still has to go through the asteroid belt and there it MAY be thrown off course by collisions with objects within the belt! This may either take it further away, not affect it at all - (probably because it's so huge) or it may bring it closer in. Anyway, with the info they are releasing, I believe it's still too early to call.
 Quoting: Ozicell


Plus, if the object is as enormous as OP postulates, it would be like one gigantic bowling ball plowing through thousands of bowling pins once it hits the Asteroid Belt!!! Scatter shot, everywhere!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 832564


You know, I have wondered about that also. With all the comets that have come by Earth in the last 10 years or so you would think that the asteroid belt would be punched full of holes with their passing, and all those asteroids went somewhere, I am very surprised that we haven't been hit yet by a large one.
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OP. what about our moon? have you looked at trajectory?
 Quoting: worried bug 1284442


no i didnt calculte the moon trajectory and c201 x1 trajectory

i'm going to search it
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If that thing hits earth, then the folks with their deep underground bases are going to look real stupid.

Absolutely nothing will survive. Not even a virus or a bacteria.
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It is not going to hit us, it will just pass VERY CLOSE to us. We will pass through it's tail in late-Oct/early-Nov which will result in tens of thousands of small, medium, and large asteroids and debris to fall upon the earth as flaming bombs, destroying anything and everything in their paths. Very similar to what you see in the beginning of the movie 'Armageddon' when the meteors rain down upon the cities, except we will have tens of thousands of these things coming down on us instead of just a few. The devastation will be enormous.

When this happens we will see a world-shift-paradigm as they call it. Millions will make a call to return to 'godly principles' because God has apparently began to pour out His judgments upon the earth. The constitution of the US will be repudiated or amended and one of the new laws will be a national day of rest known in Bible prophecy as the Sunday-Law. This law however, will be in direct violation to God's principles of keeping the seventh-day holy as a day of rest, so through its passing the people will only further separate themselves from God. As a result, things will only get worse.

Be ready. It's coming. Get your heart right with God.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


This. It has been so prophesied by Ellen G. White, a prophet in modern times in the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

The National Sunday Law - The Prediction

Ellen White not a few times predicted that Sunday worship would one day be enforced by law, and that obedience to the fourth commandment would be prohibited. In 1882 she claimed to have foreseen these events in vision 36 years before (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 5, p. 137). Indeed, by 1851 a vision along these lines had been committed to writing, a vision received in June 1850 (Experience and Views, p. 55; Early Writings, p. 64).

The following is one of her many statements on this topic, a selection first published in 1884, and then revised and republished in 1888 and 1911:

The dignitaries of church and state will unite to bribe, persuade, or compel all classes to honor the Sunday. The lack of divine authority will be supplied by oppressive enactments. Political corruption is destroying love of justice and regard for truth; and even in free America, rulers and legislators, in order to secure public favor, will yield to the popular demand for a law enforcing Sunday observance. Liberty of conscience, which has cost so great a sacrifice, will no longer be respected. In the soon-coming conflict we shall see exemplified the prophet's words: "The dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 12:17.—Great Controversy, p. 592.

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I read somewhere that it has entered the belt already but in a sparcely populated area. No idea how true this is!
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OK SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO ME NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE CAN MAKE SOME MISTAKE IN THE CALCULATION OF ITS DIAMETER BECAUSE THE OGJECT HAS A SPEED OF 80-90000 KM/H NOW.

SO EVERY HOUR IT MAKES 90 000 KM ...AND OUR CALCULATION COULD BE WRONG......BUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BUT !!!!!
IN ANY CASE WE CAN MAKE A MISTAKE VERY USELESS :

3 JANUARY 2011 03:40 AM THE OBJECT WAS AT 545 000 000 KM FROM EARTH AND ITS SIZE WAS ABOUT 1-2 SECONDS OF ANGULAR DIAMETER

THAN : HIS REAL DIAMETER = 545 000 000 (TAN 0,0005555)=5279 KM
HUGE
BUT IF WE MAKE A MISTAKE OF 100 000 000 KM
AND THE OBJECT IS ABOUT 0.5 ARCOSEC. (IMPOSSIBLE)THE CALCULATION IS

650 000 000 (TAN 0.00013888)= 1575 KM HUGE !!!!!!!!!!!!(BUT ISNT 0,5 ARCOSECOND)

EVEN IF THE DISTANCE WAS ONLY 350 000 000 KM (IMPOSSIBLE)
AND THE OBJECT ANGULAR DIAMETER WAS ABOUT 0,5 ARCOSEC. (IMPOSSIBLE)
HIS REAL DIAMETER IS :
D=350 000 000 (TAN 0.00013888)= 848 KM HUGE !!!!!!!!(BUT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE)
DO U UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN ???????????

SO THE OBJECT IN ANY CASE IS A BEAT , IS HUGE !!!!!!!!!!!
AND .....LEONID ELENIN CANT SEE AN OBJECT OF 3 KM WITH A 18" MIRROR FROM ABOUT 6-700 000 000 KM , THATS IMPOSSIBLE MY FRIENDS!!!!!!!!
IMPOSSIBLE!

THAT OBJECT IS A BEAST !!

IN ANY CASE OF ERROR IS A HUGE ....BUT I KNOW (AND U KNOW) THAT HIS DIAMETER CANT BE 800 KM .....HIS DIAMETER IS MUCH MUCH LARGER


BYE BRO.
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:wtfsay:
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sorry i'm not american 1dunno1
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when does Planet Elenin collide with the earth?

PANIC SEX COUNTDOWN ensues.....

500,000,000 seconds to go
499,999,999 seconds to go
499,999,998 seconds to go
499,999,997 seconds to go
499,999,996 seconds to go
499,999,995 seconds to go
499,999,994 seconds to go

you get the idea, panic sexers!

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I read somewhere that it has entered the belt already but in a sparcely populated area. No idea how true this is!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282573


What does this have to do with the comet, someone prophesying that Sunday would be made holy has nothing to do with a comet.
Sheesh!
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Opps! quoted wrong one. I was quoting the one above that post.
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the only picture i seen of this comet it looked like a space ship it has 3 dots on one side 3 dots on the other like this
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 Quoting: Godlike Elite


That was my impression too.
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545,000,000m = 545,000km





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