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THERE WILL BE NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE..here is why..IF you have the guts to read it.

 
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As I said in another post earlier. You can argue all day with post trib mid trib guys. They will twist every word in the Bible and grab any Scripture they want and apply it to their cause. There is really no point.

Jesus said pray to escape. They say it is Christian's being invisible or hidden in the wood, when Revelation doesn't mention the Church, the body of Christ, once the Trib begins. It does say the Tribulation Saints are killed for their fair. So you kind of create a problem there. If the Body of Christ is saved from the Trib, how can they be the ones getting beheaded in the Trib? Logical fallacy. The Body of Christ has been removed.

Like Paul said. When the Thessalonians asked if they had missed the Rapture, because false teachers came in and said the Rapture had occurred, Paul wrote back and said he had taught them already, be sure that the restrainer has to be removed before the man of lawlessness can occur, ie, the antichrist. This tells us two things. The people of Thessolanica were taught by Paul that the Rapture is pre Trib, because the people there were looking for antichrist because they THOUGHT THEY HAD MISSED IT. Paul corrected them and said, no, you havent missed it, it cant happen until the restrainer is GONE. The restrainer holding back God's wrath is the age of grace and the Holy Spirit filled Christians in it.

Also, there is a big fallacy in the Post trib. If Jesus raptures the few Christians left and all the Christians from the grave, they go up and get new bodies. They immediately come back with Jesus, Jesus judges the antichrist and destroy all the armies gathered against Him. He then judges the world as sinners. Anyone left is unsaved or they would have been raptured. So they are all sent to hell. The Bible says that humans go into the Millennium and restart humanity. There would be no humans left in the flesh if post trib were true. A logical fallacy.

But again. They will spiritualize and grab verses to argue obvious truth.

Read the Bible rightly dividing, taking it literally and keeping verses in context. It all becomes clear. It is all grace, Jesus did it all, and the Body of Christ is not meant for wrath.
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Instead of me doing all that, why don't you how the pre trib rapture squares with:

Ezekiel 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

And don't try and discount that proper translation (KJV). This is GOD, the Father of his begotten son Jesus Christ saying, to false teachers and false prophets, that he is AGAINST those of you teaching his children to "FLY TO SAVE THEIR SOULS".

Which near as I can tell, is what you rapture tards do every single day. Almost described to a T!!!
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I went to Church a couple of times many years ago. My wife was a Christian I was not at that time. I was a drunkard and a Sinner. I went to bed one evening and I had a dream. The dream put so much fear in me. Back then I never read the Bible actually I burned my wife’s Bible. The Dream started out with people in fear of something coming out of the sky. People thought it was a meteor or something. People were in complete fear. But what It was is Jesus returning to earth flying on clouds in the sky. To be clear I never had any knowledge of the Bible then or Jesus returning before this dream. Back to the story. As Jesus was above the earth on the clouds I watched some of my family and strangers getting lifted towards Jesus in the sky. I looked around and I noticed I wasn’t going with my family to meet Jesus in the Sky. Instantly I was in front of God in Judgment. I could not see God But I knew where I was. I was on my knees balling knowing I didn’t deserve to be in front of God. God was not pleased with me and his voice shook me to the core. I did have somebody advocating for me on the side of me. God said, a word I don’t remember exactly but it was something like I was In between and I ended up somewhere that wasn’t heaven. Instantly, I was somewhere I never seen. The things I seen looked like what I would think demon faces would look like. I was so scared. I walked around and seen somebody hunched over and it was one of my sons all grown up. I felt some relief for a moment. Then I realized he was stuck in the same place as me. It shook me to my core. I woke up on my bed balling my eyes out. I was shook up and my wife asked what was wrong and I told her. My wife tried making me feel better but I couldn’t shake it. I felt this sorrow and pain throughout my whole body. I went out of the bedroom and asked God to show me something about this dream or vision I had, but please don’t be mad at me for asking. Instantly, I heard and seen something about Job and the Bible on the T.V. I went to my wife’s Bible and Searched for Job. I landed on Job and point randomly to Job 33
33 “But now, Job, listen to my words;
pay attention to everything I say.
2 I am about to open my mouth;
my words are on the tip of my tongue.
3 My words come from an upright heart;
my lips sincerely speak what I know.
4 The Spirit of God has made me;
the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
5 Answer me then, if you can;
stand up and argue your case before me.
6 I am the same as you in God’s sight;
I too am a piece of clay.
7 No fear of me should alarm you,
nor should my hand be heavy on you.
8 “But you have said in my hearing—
I heard the very words—
9 ‘I am pure, I have done no wrong;
I am clean and free from sin.
10 Yet God has found fault with me;
he considers me his enemy.
11 He fastens my feet in shackles;
he keeps close watch on all my paths.’
12 “But I tell you, in this you are not right,
for God is greater than any mortal.
13 Why do you complain to him
that he responds to no one’s words[a]?
14 For God does speak—now one way, now another—
though no one perceives it.
15 In a dream, in a vision of the night,
when deep sleep falls on people
as they slumber in their beds,
16 he may speak in their ears
and terrify them with warnings,
17 to turn them from wrongdoing
and keep them from pride,
18 to preserve them from the pit,
their lives from perishing by the sword.
19 “Or someone may be chastened on a bed of pain
with constant distress in their bones,
20 so that their body finds food repulsive
and their soul loathes the choicest meal.
21 Their flesh wastes away to nothing,
and their bones, once hidden, now stick out.
22 They draw near to the pit,
and their life to the messengers of death.[c]
23 Yet if there is an angel at their side,
a messenger, one out of a thousand,
sent to tell them how to be upright,
24 and he is gracious to that person and says to God,
‘Spare them from going down to the pit;
I have found a ransom for them—
25 let their flesh be renewed like a child’s;
let them be restored as in the days of their youth’—
26 then that person can pray to God and find favor with him,
they will see God’s face and shout for joy;
he will restore them to full well-being.
27 And they will go to others and say,
‘I have sinned, I have perverted what is right,
but I did not get what I deserved.
28 God has delivered me from going down to the pit,
and I shall live to enjoy the light of life.’
29 “God does all these things to a person—
twice, even three times—
30 to turn them back from the pit,
that the light of life may shine on them.
31 “Pay attention, Job, and listen to me;
be silent, and I will speak.
32 If you have anything to say, answer me;
speak up, for I want to vindicate you.
33 But if not, then listen to me;
be silent, and I will teach you wisdom.”

This has changed my life forever. This was over 15 years ago. I truly feel in my heart we are headed for Jesus return. I thank God for today and the breath I breath and my family. I Pray for you who is reading this. God does love us. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Do you have to go to church to find God or Jesus. The answer is no. Here is a good verse to help. And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
This is a true story. Before this dream I never read or heard about Jesus coming out of the sky on clouds.
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I went to Church a couple of times many years ago. My wife was a Christian I was not at that time. I was a drunkard and a Sinner. I went to bed one evening and I had a dream. The dream put so much fear in me. Back then I never read the Bible actually I burned my wife’s Bible. The Dream started out with people in fear of something coming out of the sky. People thought it was a meteor or something. People were in complete fear. But what It was is Jesus returning to earth flying on clouds in the sky. To be clear I never had any knowledge of the Bible then or Jesus returning before this dream. Back to the story. As Jesus was above the earth on the clouds I watched some of my family and strangers getting lifted towards Jesus in the sky. I looked around and I noticed I wasn’t going with my family to meet Jesus in the Sky. Instantly I was in front of God in Judgment. I could not see God But I knew where I was. I was on my knees balling knowing I didn’t deserve to be in front of God. God was not pleased with me and his voice shook me to the core. I did have somebody advocating for me on the side of me. God said, a word I don’t remember exactly but it was something like I was In between and I ended up somewhere that wasn’t heaven. Instantly, I was somewhere I never seen. The things I seen looked like what I would think demon faces would look like. I was so scared. I walked around and seen somebody hunched over and it was one of my sons all grown up. I felt some relief for a moment. Then I realized he was stuck in the same place as me. It shook me to my core. I woke up on my bed balling my eyes out. I was shook up and my wife asked what was wrong and I told her. My wife tried making me feel better but I couldn’t shake it. I felt this sorrow and pain throughout my whole body. I went out of the bedroom and asked God to show me something about this dream or vision I had, but please don’t be mad at me for asking. Instantly, I heard and seen something about Job and the Bible on the T.V. I went to my wife’s Bible and Searched for Job. I landed on Job and point randomly to Job 33
33 “But now, Job, listen to my words;
pay attention to everything I say.
2 I am about to open my mouth;
my words are on the tip of my tongue.
3 My words come from an upright heart;
my lips sincerely speak what I know.
4 The Spirit of God has made me;
the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
5 Answer me then, if you can;
stand up and argue your case before me.
6 I am the same as you in God’s sight;
I too am a piece of clay.
7 No fear of me should alarm you,
nor should my hand be heavy on you.
8 “But you have said in my hearing—
I heard the very words—
9 ‘I am pure, I have done no wrong;
I am clean and free from sin.
10 Yet God has found fault with me;
he considers me his enemy.
11 He fastens my feet in shackles;
he keeps close watch on all my paths.’
12 “But I tell you, in this you are not right,
for God is greater than any mortal.
13 Why do you complain to him
that he responds to no one’s words[a]?
14 For God does speak—now one way, now another—
though no one perceives it.
15 In a dream, in a vision of the night,
when deep sleep falls on people
as they slumber in their beds,
16 he may speak in their ears
and terrify them with warnings,
17 to turn them from wrongdoing
and keep them from pride,
18 to preserve them from the pit,
their lives from perishing by the sword.
19 “Or someone may be chastened on a bed of pain
with constant distress in their bones,
20 so that their body finds food repulsive
and their soul loathes the choicest meal.
21 Their flesh wastes away to nothing,
and their bones, once hidden, now stick out.
22 They draw near to the pit,
and their life to the messengers of death.[c]
23 Yet if there is an angel at their side,
a messenger, one out of a thousand,
sent to tell them how to be upright,
24 and he is gracious to that person and says to God,
‘Spare them from going down to the pit;
I have found a ransom for them—
25 let their flesh be renewed like a child’s;
let them be restored as in the days of their youth’—
26 then that person can pray to God and find favor with him,
they will see God’s face and shout for joy;
he will restore them to full well-being.
27 And they will go to others and say,
‘I have sinned, I have perverted what is right,
but I did not get what I deserved.
28 God has delivered me from going down to the pit,
and I shall live to enjoy the light of life.’
29 “God does all these things to a person—
twice, even three times—
30 to turn them back from the pit,
that the light of life may shine on them.
31 “Pay attention, Job, and listen to me;
be silent, and I will speak.
32 If you have anything to say, answer me;
speak up, for I want to vindicate you.
33 But if not, then listen to me;
be silent, and I will teach you wisdom.”

This has changed my life forever. This was over 15 years ago. I truly feel in my heart we are headed for Jesus return. I thank God for today and the breath I breath and my family. I Pray for you who is reading this. God does love us. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Do you have to go to church to find God or Jesus. The answer is no. Here is a good verse to help. And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
This is a true story. Before this dream I never read or heard about Jesus coming out of the sky on clouds.
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Awesome story, get yourself a different translation of the Holy Scriptures. Yours is written by unchristian men determined to lead people astray.

KJV and Strongs Concordance. Otherwise, God Bless you on your journey.
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This happens before the Rapture.
We'ere not even close to it happening.

2 Thessalonians 2

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
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Thread: Rapture happens after Tribulation. Seriously. Get it in order, times are going to get very tough in the next 10-15 years.
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Old thread.

Yes there will be, but only for those believing and looking forward to it, IMO. Jesus may take 100% of His people though. I guess we'll see. I myself rather play it safe and wait and believe for the Rapture.

Good Luck.

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How can you call that proof. Because it was in a book??
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If you believe it or not..does not matter. The BOOK says when it WILL BE...from what is written IN the book itself.

Most people who follow the book are not TAUGHT to read it...they are taught to read other mens interpretation of what they THINK it might mean..in such a way as to TRY TO FORECE it to mean something other than what it actually SAYS

Thus you have them making MILLIONS from the oh so comfy "Pre trib" doctrine.
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FANTASTIC CRITIQUE OP -

I was much like you 30+ years ago.
Believing the pre-trib BS because someone influential with 'a name' wrote a book.


Saved your post for exhortation purposes.
Marvelous.
Blesses my socks off!

[Yes, I know his post is 12 years old]
[Can't believe I haven't found it before now]
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Where't the mtf pedo with the chick tracts?
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soon come mon
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How can you call that proof. Because it was in a book??
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If you believe it or not..does not matter. The BOOK says when it WILL BE...from what is written IN the book itself.

Most people who follow the book are not TAUGHT to read it...they are taught to read other mens interpretation of what they THINK it might mean..in such a way as to TRY TO FORECE it to mean something other than what it actually SAYS

Thus you have them making MILLIONS from the oh so comfy "Pre trib" doctrine.
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FANTASTIC CRITIQUE OP -

I was much like you 30+ years ago.
Believing the pre-trib BS because someone influential with 'a name' wrote a book.


Saved your post for exhortation purposes.
Marvelous.
Blesses my socks off!

[Yes, I know his post is 12 years old]
[Can't believe I haven't found it before now]
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Herr at glp they ban the truth tellers.

And make the pedos...

Like Judethz and DGN..

Into little gods.
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How can you call that proof. Because it was in a book??
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If you believe it or not..does not matter. The BOOK says when it WILL BE...from what is written IN the book itself.

Most people who follow the book are not TAUGHT to read it...they are taught to read other mens interpretation of what they THINK it might mean..in such a way as to TRY TO FORECE it to mean something other than what it actually SAYS

Thus you have them making MILLIONS from the oh so comfy "Pre trib" doctrine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286518



FANTASTIC CRITIQUE OP -

I was much like you 30+ years ago.
Believing the pre-trib BS because someone influential with 'a name' wrote a book.


Saved your post for exhortation purposes.
Marvelous.
Blesses my socks off!

[Yes, I know his post is 12 years old]
[Can't believe I haven't found it before now]
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Herr at glp they ban the truth tellers.

And make the pedos...

Like Judethz and DGN..

Into little gods.
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They don't have the guts to read it nor make even an intelligent comment about it.

OP nailed it.
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About the pretribulation rapture. The Saviour Jesus Christ on the cross suffered the judgment of God. The Lord Jesus can not again suffer judgment. This also means that the 'body of Christ' can not suffer the judgment of the tribulation. The judgment he suffered on the cross was not for himself, it was in their stead. The New Testament church is the body of Christ. He is the head of the body [Colossians 1:18]. The body and head are one. They, the body, are "the fulness of him" [Ephesians 1:22-23; cf. Psalms 139:16]. The body of Christ suffering the judgment of God in the tribulation would necessarily mean the Lord Jesus Christ, the head of the body, suffering judgment for the second time. This could never be.

Additionally, Revelation 6:16-17 speaks of the "wrath of the Lamb". In the context it refers to the entire time from the beginning of the tribulation, the opening of the first seal. Could the Lord and Saviour Christ Jesus, the very Lamb of God [John 1:29], inflict wrath upon his own body [Ephesians 5:23]? God forbid. The tribulation from the opening of the first seal to the final battle at Armageddon is the judgment of God on the Christ rejecting world. The New Testament church, the very body of Christ, having anything at all to do with that judgment, is a thing impossible. It would be to say that the finished work of the cross was ineffectual.

Pretribulation rapture is the only possible correct interpretation of scripture.
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About the pretribulation rapture. The Saviour Jesus Christ on the cross suffered the judgment of God. The Lord Jesus can not again suffer judgment. This also means that the 'body of Christ' can not suffer the judgment of the tribulation.
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Right at this point is where you go off the track ...

Tribulation is NOT God's Judgement.

Or else you would be accusing God of killing His own ...

WRATH is God's Judgement, NOT tribulation.
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About the pretribulation rapture. The Saviour Jesus Christ on the cross suffered the judgment of God. The Lord Jesus can not again suffer judgment. This also means that the 'body of Christ' can not suffer the judgment of the tribulation.
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Right at this point is where you go off the track ...

Tribulation is NOT God's Judgement.

Or else you would be accusing God of killing His own ...

WRATH is God's Judgement, NOT tribulation.
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Yet to meet a pre tribber who isnt also a greedy selfish self righteous stuck up arrogant bastard.

And most of them are pedos.

As are their pastors.

Brian houston of hillsong springs to mind.

They all vaxxed as well.

All pre tribbers are vax taking pedo beast loving assholes.
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About the pretribulation rapture. The Saviour Jesus Christ on the cross suffered the judgment of God. The Lord Jesus can not again suffer judgment. This also means that the 'body of Christ' can not suffer the judgment of the tribulation.
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Right at this point is where you go off the track ...

Tribulation is NOT God's Judgement.

Or else you would be accusing God of killing His own ...

WRATH is God's Judgement, NOT tribulation.
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That's an invalid argument: 'tribulation' that believers may face throughout their life is not what is referred to.. or stated in the above comment

note carefully what is said there is "the tribulation" ..which is a commonly accepted and understood term as meaning the entire 7-yr 'time of tribulation'; see Matthew 24:21,29 "tribulation"

The entire '7-yr tribulation' beginning at the opening of the first seal is God's judgment unto the last of the 7 vials and into Armageddon. Judgment start to finish once the scroll of Rev. 5 is opened. including the "wrath of the Lamb" Rev. 6. Judgment first trump to Armageddon.

Body of Christ already judged 'in Christ' cannot be involved
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About the pretribulation rapture. The Saviour Jesus Christ on the cross suffered the judgment of God. The Lord Jesus can not again suffer judgment. This also means that the 'body of Christ' can not suffer the judgment of the tribulation.
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Right at this point is where you go off the track ...

Tribulation is NOT God's Judgement.

Or else you would be accusing God of killing His own ...

WRATH is God's Judgement, NOT tribulation.
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Yet to meet a pre tribber who isnt also a greedy selfish self righteous stuck up arrogant bastard.

And most of them are pedos.

As are their pastors.

Brian houston of hillsong springs to mind.

They all vaxxed as well.

All pre tribbers are vax taking pedo beast loving assholes.
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thy speech bewrayeth thee - as one with no firsthand knowledge of the subject in question

for the record - me *pre-trib not vxxed
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but the apostate church of Laodicea is not going anywhere..

they will be given over to strong delusion
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About the pretribulation rapture. The Saviour Jesus Christ on the cross suffered the judgment of God. The Lord Jesus can not again suffer judgment. This also means that the 'body of Christ' can not suffer the judgment of the tribulation.
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Right at this point is where you go off the track ...

Tribulation is NOT God's Judgement.

Or else you would be accusing God of killing His own ...

WRATH is God's Judgement, NOT tribulation.
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Yet to meet a pre tribber who isnt also a greedy selfish self righteous stuck up arrogant bastard.

And most of them are pedos.

As are their pastors.

Brian houston of hillsong springs to mind.

They all vaxxed as well.

All pre tribbers are vax taking pedo beast loving assholes.
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re: "vax taking pedo beast loving assholes"

thy speech bewrayeth thee - as one with no firsthand knowledge of the subject in question

for the record - me *pre-trib not vxxed
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Some rapture tard love...

Thread: MAY 21st is REAL!!..JUDMENT COMES AND RAPTURE WILL HAPPEN!!..DONT DARE MOCK OR YOU WILL PAY!

Rapture tards love their vax.

All their churches took it and pushed it.

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Some rapture tard love...

Thread: MAY 21st is REAL!!..JUDMENT COMES AND RAPTURE WILL HAPPEN!!..DONT DARE MOCK OR YOU WILL PAY!

Rapture tards love their vax.

All their churches took it and pushed it.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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the outward professing church today is Laodicea.. Laodicea is fully apostate - and infiltrated with false teachers - preaching all sorts of false doctrines as well twisting everything that is true - this condition of things is to be expected in these days we live - read book of Jude it tells us exactly this

a lot of churches do preach 'pre-trib' but they are still Laodicean apostate on many other points - but this does not make pre-trib false .. and does not mean that what they preach on the pre-trib subject is correct either
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agree all the above is true - comment below is repeated because it answers these things. False teachers - Jude 4 - who infiltrate and then purposely corrupt everything is the strategy to destroy Christianity they have been using for a long time:

the outward professing church today is Laodicea.. Laodicea is fully apostate - and infiltrated with false teachers - preaching all sorts of false doctrines as well twisting everything that is true - this condition of things is to be expected in these days we live - read book of Jude it tells us exactly this

a lot of churches do preach 'pre-trib' but they are still Laodicean apostate on many other points - but this does not make pre-trib false .. and does not mean that what they preach on the pre-trib subject is correct either
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This fellow used to believe in the rapture till he asked a pastor one question that the pastor couldn’t answer. He’s post now at resurrection. He also warns those preaching pre-trib.



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agree all the above is true - comment below is repeated because it answers these things. False teachers - Jude 4 - who infiltrate and then purposely corrupt everything is the strategy to destroy Christianity they have been using for a long time:

the outward professing church today is Laodicea.. Laodicea is fully apostate - and infiltrated with false teachers - preaching all sorts of false doctrines as well twisting everything that is true - this condition of things is to be expected in these days we live - read book of Jude it tells us exactly this

a lot of churches do preach 'pre-trib' but they are still Laodicean apostate on many other points - but this does not make pre-trib false .. and does not mean that what they preach on the pre-trib subject is correct either

Pre.trib is false.

Anyone who read the opening post would know this but so few have the balls to read it.

Willfull ignorance is satanic.

And the willfully ignorant suffer the very same fate AS a satanist.
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Pre.trib is false.

Anyone who read the opening post would know this but so few have the balls to read it.

Willfull ignorance is satanic.

And the willfully ignorant suffer the very same fate AS a satanist.
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well ok mate nice chatting with you and we'll just leave it here for now

gotta run anyway..

one thing more might want to watch out for your own words though





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