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This thread is completely beyond repair...

I can't read anymore of it.

Why are you all coming across as self-serving and hypocritical? Especially you, Texgal who claims to have been Catholic..If you really sought the truth, you would spend your time reading John Paul II and Pope Benedict's WRITTEN Encyclicals and Apostolic letters along with the Church Fathers (directly taught by the original apostles) instead of this crazy crap that judges by superficial appearance only.

Three years is a LONG time in the Lord's ministry. It is impossible for the 4 Gospel writers to put down everything He said and did. That's why you have the Church Fathers who were taught directly BY the apostles and expounded on what Jesus said. Do you remember the disciples on the road to Emmaus? Do you remember that Jesus expounded on many truths in scripture and what everything meant and more? This wasn't recorded in the gospels. That expounding is explained in the church fathers' writings. You go ahead and judge AFTER you read their writings carefully. They would run rings around you in any debate on REAL truth.

The problem is the same with all us fallen humanity: time and time again we think that WE qualify to cast the first stone through rash judgement. Do your own scholarly research on their writings; THEN and ONLY THEN you can tell me they speak of blasphemy.

Satan deceives many...even the most elect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1108318

since you are so knowledgeable about blasphemy *cough* explain the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit..

why is it permissible to speak a word against the Son of Man but not the Holy Spirit if they are indivisible?

Matt 12:32
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.


Son of Man - Who is it?

[link to www.allaboutjesuschrist.org]

Jesus often referred to Himself as the Son of Man. In fact, this title is used 88 times in the New Testament. Son of Man refers to Jesus being a human being.

Jesus used this title in three distinct ways:
In a general way - almost as a substitute for the pronoun "I." Luke 9:58 says, "Jesus replied, 'Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head.'"

Specifically dealing with suffering - Mark 8:31 says, "He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again."

Specially dealing with authority - Mark 2:10 says, "But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins. . ."

The phrase "Son of Man" is used as a reference to Daniel 7:13-14 which says, "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed."

The title Son of Man is Messianic in nature. In the instances that Jesus used this phrase to describe Himself, He was assigning the Daniel prophecy to Himself. The Jewish people of Jesus' time were intimately familiar with the phrase. They knew that Jesus was proclaiming Himself as the Messiah.
 Quoting: RTS


Oooo...good question.

:)
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Two cents worth time - sorry I've been away from the PC.

Matt 12:32
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Ever noticed how this sentiment is similar to the commandment about taking the Lord's name in vain? It goes on to say that the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain! (Paraphrased) In other words won't be forgiven!

Now what's in a name?
Here the command is referring to the nature of God - AKA the Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: Ozicell


I should add that this is only my opinion!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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This thread is completely beyond repair...

I can't read anymore of it.

Why are you all coming across as self-serving and hypocritical? Especially you, Texgal who claims to have been Catholic..If you really sought the truth, you would spend your time reading John Paul II and Pope Benedict's WRITTEN Encyclicals and Apostolic letters along with the Church Fathers (directly taught by the original apostles) instead of this crazy crap that judges by superficial appearance only.

Three years is a LONG time in the Lord's ministry. It is impossible for the 4 Gospel writers to put down everything He said and did. That's why you have the Church Fathers who were taught directly BY the apostles and expounded on what Jesus said. Do you remember the disciples on the road to Emmaus? Do you remember that Jesus expounded on many truths in scripture and what everything meant and more? This wasn't recorded in the gospels. That expounding is explained in the church fathers' writings. You go ahead and judge AFTER you read their writings carefully. They would run rings around you in any debate on REAL truth.

The problem is the same with all us fallen humanity: time and time again we think that WE qualify to cast the first stone through rash judgement. Do your own scholarly research on their writings; THEN and ONLY THEN you can tell me they speak of blasphemy.

Satan deceives many...even the most elect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1108318

since you are so knowledgeable about blasphemy *cough* explain the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit..

why is it permissible to speak a word against the Son of Man but not the Holy Spirit if they are indivisible?

Matt 12:32
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.


Son of Man - Who is it?

[link to www.allaboutjesuschrist.org]

Jesus often referred to Himself as the Son of Man. In fact, this title is used 88 times in the New Testament. Son of Man refers to Jesus being a human being.

Jesus used this title in three distinct ways:
In a general way - almost as a substitute for the pronoun "I." Luke 9:58 says, "Jesus replied, 'Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head.'"

Specifically dealing with suffering - Mark 8:31 says, "He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again."

Specially dealing with authority - Mark 2:10 says, "But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins. . ."

The phrase "Son of Man" is used as a reference to Daniel 7:13-14 which says, "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed."

The title Son of Man is Messianic in nature. In the instances that Jesus used this phrase to describe Himself, He was assigning the Daniel prophecy to Himself. The Jewish people of Jesus' time were intimately familiar with the phrase. They knew that Jesus was proclaiming Himself as the Messiah.
 Quoting: RTS


Oooo...good question.

:)
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Two cents worth time - sorry I've been away from the PC.

Matt 12:32
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Ever noticed how this sentiment is similar to the commandment about taking the Lord's name in vain? It goes on to say that the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain! (Paraphrased) In other words won't be forgiven!

Now what's in a name?
Here the command is referring to the nature of God - AKA the Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: Ozicell


I think you will find this very useful if you don't already have it.

:)

[link to www.scripture4all.org]
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Good site. thanks.
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Good site. thanks.
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:)
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For those who are serious about the Bible, prophecy, etc. I really think you should take a look at this site. It's actually quite chilling. [link to biblelight.net]
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Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


Note that according to verse 17, there are three different characteristics that distinguish the beast:

his mark (of authority)
his name
the number of his name (666)

It might be argued by some that 666 must be applied to one man's name, and that this will then help identify him as the antichrist. I would offer the following verse to show that 666 need not apply solely to a man's name:

Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

The same Greek word translated as name (onoma: G3686) that appears in Revelation 13:17-18 is also used in chapter 19:16, so clearly the word can also apply to a title, and not just one man's name. Now, we are told that it takes a certain understanding and wisdom to discern just how this number is actually applied. Based on the fact that 666 can apply to a title, below are several words and phrases that have been put forth over the centuries as probable solutions to the enigma of 666.

GREEK


The numeric equivalents of Greek letters can also be found in the Encyclopedia Britannica under "Languages of the World", Table 8.

The ancient Greek word for "the Latin speaking man" is LATEINOS

L = 30 lambda
A = 1 alpha
T = 300 tau
E = 5 epsilon
I = 10 iota
N = 50 nu
O = 70 omicron
S = 200 sigma
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666

NOTE: Latin is the official language of the Roman Catholic Church. Church Documents are usually published first in Latin, and then translated from the Latin into other languages. The association of "Lateinos" with 666 was first suggested by Irenæus (ca. 130-202 A.D.) who proposed in his Against Heresies that it might be the name of the fourth kingdom in Daniel 7:7.

Then also Lateinos has the number six hundred and sixty-six; and it is a very probable [solution], this being the name of the last kingdom [of the four seen by Daniel]. For the Latins are they who at present bear rule: I will not, however, make any boast over this [coincidence].

The ancient Greek for
"The Latin Kingdom" is
HE LATINE BASILEIA
BASILEIA is Strong's # G932

H = 0 (transliterated)
E = 8 eta
L = 30 lambda
A = 1 alpha
T = 300 tau
I = 10 iota
N = 50 nu
E = 8 eta

B = 2 beta
A = 1 alpha
S = 200 sigma
I = 10 iota
L = 30 lambda
E = 5 epsilon
I = 10 iota
A = 1 alpha

666

The ancient Greek for
"Italian Church" is
ITALIKA EKKLESIA
EKKLESIA is Strong's # G1577


I = 10 iota
T = 300 tau
A = 1 alpha
L = 30 lambda
I = 10 iota
K = 20 kappa
A = 1 alpha

E = 5 epsilon
K = 20 kappa
K = 20 kappa
L = 30 lambda
E = 8 eta
S = 200 sigma
I = 10 iota
A = 1 alpha

666

VICARIUS FILII DEI

THE LITERAL MEANING: VICARIUS - substituting for, or in place of
FILII - means son
DEI - means God

This also adds up to 666
[link to biblelight.net]

THE WORD ANTI

Look up in Strong's Concordance word 473 in the Greek dictionary. You will find the the word anti is often used to denote substitution-

473. anti, an-tee'; a prim. particle; opposite, i.e. instead or because of (rarely in addition to):--for, in the room of. Often used in composition to denote contrast, requital, *substitution*, correspondence, etc.

An example of how anti is used this way can be found in the words type and antitype, which are used with respect to Bible prophecy. The "type" is the pattern or symbol, and the antitype is the fulfillment. The Jewish Passover was a "type" and the crucifixion of Jesus is the "antitype" or fulfillment of the example of the type. You substitute the antitype into the symbolism of the type to arrive at the complete meaning.

The Catholic Church has essentially confirmed this usage of the word anti. In the 1994 Catholic Almanac on page 158 there is "the list of men who claimed or exercised the papal office in an uncanonical manner." So these men tried to substitute themselves for the true Pope, and usurp that office, so to speak. The Catholic church denies the papal authority of the men on that list because they attempted a substitute (false) claim on the Papacy. That list is a list of ANTI-POPES! So the word anti can clearly mean a substitute for something.

THE WORD ANTICHRIST


Antichrist (word 500 in Strong's Greek dictionary) can be correctly interpreted then, as someone who substitutes himself for Jesus Christ, the Son of God, just as an antipope substituted himself into the office of the Papacy.

The Vicar of Christ (Vicarius Christi)

"Vicar of Christ . . . Title used almost exclusively of the Bishop of Rome as successor of Peter and, therefore, the one in the Church who particularly takes the place of Christ; but used also of bishops in general and even of priests. First used by the Roman Synod of A.D. 495 to refer to Pope Gelasius; more commonly in Roman curial usage to refer to the Bishop of Rome during the pontificate of Pope Eugene III (1145-1153). Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) asserted explicitly that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ; further defined at the Council of Florence in the Decree for the Greeks (1439) and Vatican Council I in Pastor Aerternus (1870). The Second Vatican Council, in Lumen Gentium , n.27, calls bishops in general "vicars and legates of Christ." All bishops are vicars of Christ for their local churches in their ministerial functions as priest, prophet, and king, as the Pope is for the universal church; the title further denotes they exercise their authority in the Church not by delegation from any other person, but from Christ Himself."

Source: Catholic Dictionary, Peter M.J. Stravinskas, Editor, published by Our Sunday Visitor, Inc., Huntington, 1993, pp. 484-485.

Read the rest here: [link to biblelight.net]
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth




it's not that complicated in truth since the watchmen are to watch for the designated signs and seals to mark his arrival on the world scene. these signs are specifically the 6th seal, the 6th trumpet, and the 6th vial, in that order I believe. 666
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Thanks TXGal that does look intersting!
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Thanks TXGal that does look intersting!
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U bet!

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:preachy2:

All Jewish fairy tales anyway.

I mean who ACTUALLY believes in man swallowing whales and talking donkeys anyway.

And if the Bible is a code of law that prevents theft, adultery, fornication, etc, why does it have such wild stories like talking donkeys.

If am going to the county courthouse and open the county code laws and find a story of a talking mushroom in the midst of the book of law I will laugh, saying this code of law has no value or credibility.

So, when people jump to their deaths from high rises because they wound up miserable from violating the sexual laws in the code of law that contains stories of talking donkeys who would ultimately be responsible for people failing to follow a code of law that contained stories that violate people's normal concept of logic. ie. Talking donkeys. The person responsible for those deaths would be the person who created the code of law containing stories of talking donkeys.

If I were God and I were going to write a code of law, the violation of which could cost people their sanity and their physical lives, and salvation I would write a code of law with no talking donkeys or man swallowing whales.
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:preachy2:

All Jewish fairy tales anyway.

I mean who ACTUALLY believes in man swallowing whales and talking donkeys anyway.

And if the Bible is a code of law that prevents theft, adultery, fornication, etc, why does it have such wild stories like talking donkeys.

If am going to the county courthouse and open the county code laws and find a story of a talking mushroom in the midst of the book of law I will laugh, saying this code of law has no value or credibility.

So, when people jump to their deaths from high rises because they wound up miserable from violating the sexual laws in the code of law that contains stories of talking donkeys who would ultimately be responsible for people failing to follow a code of law that contained stories that violate people's normal concept of logic. ie. Talking donkeys.

If I were God and I were going to write a code of law, the violation of which could cost people their sanity and their physical lives, and salvation I would write a code of law with no talking donkeys or man swallowing whales.
 Quoting: Profit 6


Who believes? Those who are able to understand the difference between metaphors and literalism.

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:preachy2:

All Jewish fairy tales anyway.

I mean who ACTUALLY believes in man swallowing whales and talking donkeys anyway.

And if the Bible is a code of law that prevents theft, adultery, fornication, etc, why does it have such wild stories like talking donkeys.

If am going to the county courthouse and open the county code laws and find a story of a talking mushroom in the midst of the book of law I will laugh, saying this code of law has no value or credibility.

So, when people jump to their deaths from high rises because they wound up miserable from violating the sexual laws in the code of law that contains stories of talking donkeys who would ultimately be responsible for people failing to follow a code of law that contained stories that violate people's normal concept of logic. ie. Talking donkeys.

If I were God and I were going to write a code of law, the violation of which could cost people their sanity and their physical lives, and salvation I would write a code of law with no talking donkeys or man swallowing whales.
 Quoting: Profit 6


Who believes? Those who are able to understand the difference between metaphors and literalism.

:)
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth

personally I think Christians don't take Jesus literally enough which is a big mistake..imo you have to or what is said becomes meaningless..

both Alexander Hislop and Ralph Woodrow claimed the Catholic church evolved from Ancient Babylonian Mystery religions which I believe is true..

it is well known that tptb worship the OT Molech at Bohemian Grove.. Why? Maybe it 'gives' them some sort of Satanic Power..the Vatican has well known connections to Satanism as others have said in this thread

What Jesus said has more meaning if taken literally..same as the OT imo

after all certain birds can talk..is it such a leap of faith to think that GOD could not enable a donkey to talk?
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do what they say not what they do ..

christians dont judge other christians church ...only pagan and zealots do.
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do what they say not what they do ..

christians dont judge other christians church ...only pagan and zealots do.
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those who Claim to be Christian are all in the same boat imo..the biggest problem I see is 'them' actually believing what Jesus (their savior) claims

as several posters said earlier..all the Christian denominations are offshoots of the 'mother church'

btw..it is the 'mother church' of Islam too..

my .02
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Morning bump
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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Paid Mossad Shill Bump

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as a catholic growing up, i was told to go and pray a few hail mary's in front of a statue of what they told me was mary the mother of Jesus herself. no wonder the people are confused.
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Morning bump
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Good morning.

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Hi Tx gal. Kudos for getting this many views and for having the courage to speak out. Many times I see someone post something that has real truth in the heading but when I click on it the post are anything but serious in nature.

From the beginning your post was on the mark of the beast and then it began to take on a life of its own to the point that now it seems to have touched on false worship and God's chosen people. Up until the stoning of Stephen it is true that the Jews were Gods chosen people but after that the jewish race were no longer given that calling.

The bible says that you and I because we believe are spiritual jews. No longer is the jewish nation Gods chosen people who have rights to anything because the only way a jew can be saved is if he believes in Jesus not just because he is a literal jew.

Keep up the good work.
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Up until the stoning of Stephen it is true that the Jews were Gods chosen people but after that the jewish race were no longer given that calling.

The bible says that you and I because we believe are spiritual jews. No longer is the jewish nation Gods chosen people who have rights to anything because the only way a jew can be saved is if he believes in Jesus not just because he is a literal jew.

Keep up the good work.

 Quoting: beemerben 1208049


Spiritual Israel
– Those who worship in spirit and in truth

John 4:19-24 (King James Version)

The Samaritan woman

19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art
a prophet.

20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say,
that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me,
the hour cometh,
when ye shall neither in this mountain,
nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship:
for salvation is of the Jews.

23 But the hour cometh, and now is,
when the true worshippers shall worship the Father
in spirit and in truth:
for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

24 God is a Spirit:
and they that worship him must worship him
in spirit and in truth.



Galatians 6:15-18 (King James Version)

15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision
availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision,
but a new creature.

16 And as many as walk according to this rule,
peace be on them, and mercy,
and upon “the Israel of God.”

17 From henceforth let no man trouble me:
for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

18 Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ
be with your spirit. Amen.



Romans 11:26 (King James Version)

26 And so all Israel shall be saved:

Context:

When "the fullness of the Gentiles has come in”
(grafted into the vine),
then all Israel will be saved;
Spiritual Israel,
“The Israel of God”.


God Bless His Word


A remnant of Jews will be saved
according to the election of Grace.
Read: Romans 11:1-8 Joel 2

All believers, including the remnant
will be gathered unto The Lord; in the clouds
at the sixth Seal. The Day of The Lord.

God has one people,
those who worship in Spirit and in Truth.


Acts 4:12 (King James Version)

12 Neither is there salvation in any other:
for there is no other name under heaven
given among men, whereby we must be saved.

The Lord Jesus Christ


God Bless His Word
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The association of "Lateinos" with 666 was first suggested by Irenæus (ca. 130-202 A.D.)
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Isn't he a Roman Catholic 'Saint'?





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TXGal

you're one of the best posters here. I'm so glad to see you post this.

you are absolutely on the right track. this 'Sunday Law' stuff is serious business. and it's a crock.

just remember this...

what day did Christ himself regard as the Sabbath?
SATURDAY!!!

check this out
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The most powerful man on earth is NOT Soros. It's the POPE.
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Not exactly.

Apparently marriage or finding our soul mate has something to do with our salvation.

As Babylon interferes with that process it puts Babylon at risk, human lives at risk.

The pope as are most Christian churches teaching some degree of false doctrine. Most Christian churches are selling the story of Christ for money, yet Christ never sold salvation.






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do what they say not what they do ..

christians dont judge other christians church ...only pagan and zealots do.
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"For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore put away from yourselves the evil person." 1 Corinthians 5:12,13

We are instructed to 'judge' those inside the church, in the sense that we are to warn them in love of the evil and sinful practices and customs that they are partaking of. We are to help our brothers and sisters depart from sin that they may be all the more connected to Jesus Christ.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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hf TXGal has found the Truth! :)


"Sunday is our mark of authority..... The church is above the Bible, and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


:) I've actually been studying this for quite sometime now. It's one of the reasons I left the Catholic Church.

hf
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come on texas gal, you can do better that this?

you believe a day of the week is the mark?

how are you going to not buy or sell with sunday?

use your mind a little harder, you can do better...
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Not a day of the week. The ALLEGIANCE that is shown on that day.

Ask yourself this. Why was the Sabbath changed from Saturday to Sunday by Rome?

Now ask yourself this. Let's say that within the next couple of years everyone accepts the pope as the second coming of Christ. What do you think will happen to those not worshiping on Sunday?
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still not thinking, as long as it stays christian, you will not be forced.

jesus changed the day. he was dead, he got up and walked away. so jesus changed it.

the end 2012. watch the money, there is where the mark is...
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:) I've actually been studying this for quite sometime now. It's one of the reasons I left the Catholic Church.

hf
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


come on texas gal, you can do better that this?

you believe a day of the week is the mark?

how are you going to not buy or sell with sunday?

use your mind a little harder, you can do better...
 Quoting: chipg


Not a day of the week. The ALLEGIANCE that is shown on that day.

Ask yourself this. Why was the Sabbath changed from Saturday to Sunday by Rome?

Now ask yourself this. Let's say that within the next couple of years everyone accepts the pope as the second coming of Christ. What do you think will happen to those not worshiping on Sunday?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


still not thinking, as long as it stays christian, you will not be forced.

jesus changed the day. he was dead, he got up and walked away. so jesus changed it.

the end 2012. watch the money, there is where the mark is...
 Quoting: chipg


Show me from the Bible where He changed it friend.

All throughout Jesus' life he kept the Sabbath holy. "And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read." Luke 4:16

The seventh-day Sabbath is part of the moral law, instituted at creation. "And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made." Genesis 2:3. If the moral law could be simply changed then Jesus would not have needed to come and die for our sins, for it was our sins, which are defined as the transgression of God's law in 1 John 3:3, which brought him upon the cross.

The Sabbath is the seventh-day and always has been. Nothing you can say or do will change this fact.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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GOD sent his son, he died. this changed the world in two ways.

it moved the sab. and paid the sins of the world.

look believe what you want. the mark will be in the money.

if you get the mark, none of this will mater.

i will tell you when the mark is here. then do what you want...
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I've been thinking..could it be this >> those who take the mark of the beast on their forehead,which is their decisions or on their hand,which is their actions?

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I've been thinking..could it be this >> those who take the mark of the beast on their forehead (which is their decisions) or on their hand (which is their actions) ?
 Quoting: OneLove


no, it will be a mark that deals with a big computer. it will be put inside your boby without you knowing it.

the master computer will run things in a way. the anti-christ will run it.

the whole world will be decieved.

we don't have to get the mark.

i could tell you how i know,but you would not believe me.

just wait until the money changes, i will tell you were to go to be safe. it will happen this year
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!"
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Quite a few anti-Catholic cry threads this evening, wonder
why? It is the true faith so the persecution.

The number of books in the Protestant Bible = 66

Denial of the Holy Eucharist in the KJB = John 6:66
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I've been thinking..could it be this >> those who take the mark of the beast on their forehead (which is their decisions) or on their hand (which is their actions) ?
 Quoting: OneLove


no, it will be a mark that deals with a big computer. it will be put inside your boby without you knowing it.

the master computer will run things in a way. the anti-christ will run it.

the whole world will be decieved.

we don't have to get the mark.

i could tell you how i know,but you would not believe me.

just wait until the money changes, i will tell you were to go to be safe. it will happen this year
 Quoting: chipg


Aren't they already doing this to people? I've heard/read stories of people seeing someone in a store w/ a cell or funny-looking sunglasses following them and then the person notices later on while looking in mirror they have a red mark on their foreheads,etc...
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incarnation and in all my incarnations and forms across time and space and in all dimensions and in all parallel and alternate realities.
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