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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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This all made me think of the Carrington Event. It was suppose to have hit the earth in 17 hours, so it was very fast moving also. No one knows how big the flare was, only a bunch of guesses of around X-50 to X-100. Those guesses are when people forget that a M-flare can let loose a huge CME.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, as I am not a scientist in any way, shape or form.

If a huge CME from say a M-8 flare, was heading to earth at the speeds of that rare speed event, could it have been the cause of the Carrington Event and not some huge X50+ flare? I know a lot have to be taken into consideration when talking about a solar event that could potentially kill the grid and nothing is ever simple, but just reading what you all are saying makes me wonder.

The last X-flare had a few worried about the grid, so we all know it doesn't have to be huge to be a problem.
 Quoting: whiteangel


my guess on the flare size from the carrington even is a small to mid sized M flare
flare size has nothing what so ever to do with the size of a CME
some of the largest CMEs seen did not even come from a X flare
and there can be CMEs without a flare ever happening at all

a flare size is something to take note on and watch
but when speaking of the carrington event, or another carrington event, we are speaking of a CME
it matters none at all what size the flare was that the carrington CME came from, cause it was the CME itself that did the damage
the carrington CME was large and fast


google "june 7 2011 CME" to see one of the largest blasts of mass ever witnessed on the sun
and it came from a small M flare

this is why i want to bang my head when there is a big CME from lets say a small M flare, and you see so many running around saying "wake me up when its a X20 or higher"
i would almost put money on the new age carrington not even coming from a very large solar flare
i would say to watch those M flares that produce CMEs
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Very nicely put!

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This all made me think of the Carrington Event. It was suppose to have hit the earth in 17 hours, so it was very fast moving also. No one knows how big the flare was, only a bunch of guesses of around X-50 to X-100. Those guesses are when people forget that a M-flare can let loose a huge CME.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, as I am not a scientist in any way, shape or form.

If a huge CME from say a M-8 flare, was heading to earth at the speeds of that rare speed event, could it have been the cause of the Carrington Event and not some huge X50+ flare? I know a lot have to be taken into consideration when talking about a solar event that could potentially kill the grid and nothing is ever simple, but just reading what you all are saying makes me wonder.

The last X-flare had a few worried about the grid, so we all know it doesn't have to be huge to be a problem.
 Quoting: whiteangel


my guess on the flare size from the carrington event is a small to mid sized M flare
flare size has nothing what so ever to do with the size of a CME
some of the largest CMEs seen did not even come from a X flare
and there can be CMEs without a flare ever happening at all

a flare size is something to take note on and watch
but when speaking of the carrington event, or another carrington event, we are speaking of a CME
it matters none at all what size the flare was that the carrington CME came from, cause it was the CME itself that did the damage
the carrington CME was large and fast


google "june 7 2011 CME" to see one of the largest blasts of mass ever witnessed on the sun
and it came from a small M flare

this is why i want to bang my head when there is a big CME from lets say a small M flare, and you see so many running around saying "wake me up when its a X20 or higher"
i would almost put money on the new age carrington not even coming from a very large solar flare
i would say to watch those M flares that produce CMEs
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Last bunch of M flares and CME's were scary enough for me. Maybe more scary because of how HOT we are on the ground here already. Power lines are maxed-out because of air conditioning units all over the valley floor, then all we need is a big blast of highly charged ejecta thrown on top!
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June 11 2011 CME : [link to www.youtube.com]
thanks Nin!
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Look at the huge drought areas of central america, brazil, India... [link to drought.mssl.ucl.ac.uk]
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June 11 2011 CME : [link to www.youtube.com]
thanks Nin!
 Quoting: SpiderJones


here is a image of that CME
[link to www.nasa.gov]
everyone take note on the region this CME came from?!
happens to be right around the same as 1515 or soon to be new 1530 as well as 1520
it also happens to be the same area that the record breaking Nox 2003 X flare, the largest X flare on record came from
[link to www.holoscience.com]
thus why i personally watch this region of the solar disk so close

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This all made me think of the Carrington Event. It was suppose to have hit the earth in 17 hours, so it was very fast moving also. No one knows how big the flare was, only a bunch of guesses of around X-50 to X-100. Those guesses are when people forget that a M-flare can let loose a huge CME.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, as I am not a scientist in any way, shape or form.

If a huge CME from say a M-8 flare, was heading to earth at the speeds of that rare speed event, could it have been the cause of the Carrington Event and not some huge X50+ flare? I know a lot have to be taken into consideration when talking about a solar event that could potentially kill the grid and nothing is ever simple, but just reading what you all are saying makes me wonder.

The last X-flare had a few worried about the grid, so we all know it doesn't have to be huge to be a problem.
 Quoting: whiteangel


my guess on the flare size from the carrington even is a small to mid sized M flare
flare size has nothing what so ever to do with the size of a CME
some of the largest CMEs seen did not even come from a X flare
and there can be CMEs without a flare ever happening at all

a flare size is something to take note on and watch
but when speaking of the carrington event, or another carrington event, we are speaking of a CME
it matters none at all what size the flare was that the carrington CME came from, cause it was the CME itself that did the damage
the carrington CME was large and fast


google "june 7 2011 CME" to see one of the largest blasts of mass ever witnessed on the sun
and it came from a small M flare

this is why i want to bang my head when there is a big CME from lets say a small M flare, and you see so many running around saying "wake me up when its a X20 or higher"
i would almost put money on the new age carrington not even coming from a very large solar flare
i would say to watch those M flares that produce CMEs
 Quoting: NiNzrez


ohyeah
 Quoting: TS66


I don't understand everything that those in the know here, understand. But I am happy to say that I do understand what you are saying NiN. What makes me a little nuts is when the news reports on a CME (which having the news report on a CME is a fairly rare event) ... anyway it drives me a bit nuts when they say it is a 'flare' heading towards us. You'd think someone that writes the news reports would at least care enough to get the terms correct. *shrugggg* I know, in the big scheme of things, that isn't all that important, but it is just a little pet peeve of mine.
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This all made me think of the Carrington Event. It was suppose to have hit the earth in 17 hours, so it was very fast moving also. No one knows how big the flare was, only a bunch of guesses of around X-50 to X-100. Those guesses are when people forget that a M-flare can let loose a huge CME.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, as I am not a scientist in any way, shape or form.

If a huge CME from say a M-8 flare, was heading to earth at the speeds of that rare speed event, could it have been the cause of the Carrington Event and not some huge X50+ flare? I know a lot have to be taken into consideration when talking about a solar event that could potentially kill the grid and nothing is ever simple, but just reading what you all are saying makes me wonder.

The last X-flare had a few worried about the grid, so we all know it doesn't have to be huge to be a problem.
 Quoting: whiteangel


my guess on the flare size from the carrington even is a small to mid sized M flare
flare size has nothing what so ever to do with the size of a CME
some of the largest CMEs seen did not even come from a X flare
and there can be CMEs without a flare ever happening at all

a flare size is something to take note on and watch
but when speaking of the carrington event, or another carrington event, we are speaking of a CME
it matters none at all what size the flare was that the carrington CME came from, cause it was the CME itself that did the damage
the carrington CME was large and fast


google "june 7 2011 CME" to see one of the largest blasts of mass ever witnessed on the sun
and it came from a small M flare

this is why i want to bang my head when there is a big CME from lets say a small M flare, and you see so many running around saying "wake me up when its a X20 or higher"
i would almost put money on the new age carrington not even coming from a very large solar flare
i would say to watch those M flares that produce CMEs
 Quoting: NiNzrez


ohyeah
 Quoting: TS66


I don't understand everything that those in the know here, understand. But I am happy to say that I do understand what you are saying NiN. What makes me a little nuts is when the news reports on a CME (which having the news report on a CME is a fairly rare event) ... anyway it drives me a bit nuts when they say it is a 'flare' heading towards us. You'd think someone that writes the news reports would at least care enough to get the terms correct. *shrugggg* I know, in the big scheme of things, that isn't all that important, but it is just a little pet peeve of mine.
 Quoting: shenue


i share that pet peeve
it is such a easy thing to fact check
and it would get rid of a lot of confusion if reported correctly
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June 11 2011 CME : [link to www.youtube.com]
thanks Nin!
 Quoting: SpiderJones


here is a image of that CME
[link to www.nasa.gov]
everyone take note on the region this CME came from?!
happens to be right around the same as 1515 or soon to be new 1530 as well as 1520
it also happens to be the same area that the record breaking Nox 2003 X flare, the largest X flare on record came from
[link to www.holoscience.com]
thus why i personally watch this region of the solar disk so close
 Quoting: NiNzrez


I'm guessing that you have looked for reasons why that particular part of the sun blows at that particular position again and again? Find any answers? Would NASA know? Would NASA tell if they did? tounge
Could the Sun have some sort of fracture lines (magnetic) that stay in one place in spite of it's rather plastic / elastic nature?
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This all made me think of the Carrington Event. It was suppose to have hit the earth in 17 hours, so it was very fast moving also. No one knows how big the flare was, only a bunch of guesses of around X-50 to X-100. Those guesses are when people forget that a M-flare can let loose a huge CME.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, as I am not a scientist in any way, shape or form.

If a huge CME from say a M-8 flare, was heading to earth at the speeds of that rare speed event, could it have been the cause of the Carrington Event and not some huge X50+ flare? I know a lot have to be taken into consideration when talking about a solar event that could potentially kill the grid and nothing is ever simple, but just reading what you all are saying makes me wonder.

The last X-flare had a few worried about the grid, so we all know it doesn't have to be huge to be a problem.
 Quoting: whiteangel


my guess on the flare size from the carrington event is a small to mid sized M flare
flare size has nothing what so ever to do with the size of a CME
some of the largest CMEs seen did not even come from a X flare
and there can be CMEs without a flare ever happening at all

a flare size is something to take note on and watch
but when speaking of the carrington event, or another carrington event, we are speaking of a CME
it matters none at all what size the flare was that the carrington CME came from, cause it was the CME itself that did the damage
the carrington CME was large and fast


google "june 7 2011 CME" to see one of the largest blasts of mass ever witnessed on the sun
and it came from a small M flare

this is why i want to bang my head when there is a big CME from lets say a small M flare, and you see so many running around saying "wake me up when its a X20 or higher"
i would almost put money on the new age carrington not even coming from a very large solar flare
i would say to watch those M flares that produce CMEs
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thanks Nin flower
Looks like I am right in my thinking. Have known for awhile now that the size of a CME isn't tied to the size of the flare. People panic when then is an X-flare more so when there are multiple M-flares. Trying to explain a CME is more difficult and harder to understand for most because there isn't a simple scale for CME's like there is for a flare.

I get excited watching the x-ray flux monitor climb on a big flare - ha, most of us on here do - and just wish there was something like that to watch for the CME's. Yes, I know we watch different things, but one monitor would make it easier. Got involved with solar events after reading "Lights Out" and have been hooked since.

Still learning and want to express a great BIG thank you to all on here that help newbies to understand the Sun better. I may not have a handle on what to look for yet on what might happen to cause our grid to burn, but I will keep on watching, learning, and know YOU all will let us know with a little bit of warning!

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This all made me think of the Carrington Event. It was suppose to have hit the earth in 17 hours, so it was very fast moving also. No one knows how big the flare was, only a bunch of guesses of around X-50 to X-100. Those guesses are when people forget that a M-flare can let loose a huge CME.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, as I am not a scientist in any way, shape or form.

If a huge CME from say a M-8 flare, was heading to earth at the speeds of that rare speed event, could it have been the cause of the Carrington Event and not some huge X50+ flare? I know a lot have to be taken into consideration when talking about a solar event that could potentially kill the grid and nothing is ever simple, but just reading what you all are saying makes me wonder.

The last X-flare had a few worried about the grid, so we all know it doesn't have to be huge to be a problem.
 Quoting: whiteangel


my guess on the flare size from the carrington event is a small to mid sized M flare
flare size has nothing what so ever to do with the size of a CME
some of the largest CMEs seen did not even come from a X flare
and there can be CMEs without a flare ever happening at all

a flare size is something to take note on and watch
but when speaking of the carrington event, or another carrington event, we are speaking of a CME
it matters none at all what size the flare was that the carrington CME came from, cause it was the CME itself that did the damage
the carrington CME was large and fast


google "june 7 2011 CME" to see one of the largest blasts of mass ever witnessed on the sun
and it came from a small M flare

this is why i want to bang my head when there is a big CME from lets say a small M flare, and you see so many running around saying "wake me up when its a X20 or higher"
i would almost put money on the new age carrington not even coming from a very large solar flare
i would say to watch those M flares that produce CMEs
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Last bunch of M flares and CME's were scary enough for me. Maybe more scary because of how HOT we are on the ground here already. Power lines are maxed-out because of air conditioning units all over the valley floor, then all we need is a big blast of highly charged ejecta thrown on top!
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Denver is breaking heat records all over the place. We have now had 13 days 100 degrees or higher. This has broken the old record of 7 days. I lost track of how many days we have been 90+. It is the hottest summer so far on record. I use to spend the summers with my cousins here and loved how much cooler it was, as I was living in Phoenix at the time, and laughed at outdoor pools that were heated. Pools are being heated this year, that's for sure!!
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June 11 2011 CME : [link to www.youtube.com]
thanks Nin!
 Quoting: SpiderJones


here is a image of that CME
[link to www.nasa.gov]
everyone take note on the region this CME came from?!
happens to be right around the same as 1515 or soon to be new 1530 as well as 1520
it also happens to be the same area that the record breaking Nox 2003 X flare, the largest X flare on record came from
[link to www.holoscience.com]
thus why i personally watch this region of the solar disk so close
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Is that the 60 degree mark, possibly 70?
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...


Rare- as in 'how do you want your steak?'
 Quoting: SpiderJones


look at this
VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's rapid departure from the sun:

now they are classifying this as a Rare or R
well there very own video would clearly put this as an ER or extremely rare.
they even state it only happens once every 5 to 10 year....that and the speed would clearly put it in the classification of ER
 Quoting: psyoptics


according to the speed class
any CME 3000 km/sec or faster is classed as a ER event-
Extremely Rare
i guess they want to avoid using that term ^^
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Tell you what Nin- the Sun is so hot here now, that I shudder when I think of the power and heat delivered in a huge CME- it's scary as hell!
 Quoting: SpiderJones


what state are you in?
im in Michigan
when i moved here in 2000 and up till 2 years ago, every summer my family and i would complain how there was barley ever any 80+ degree days in the summer
mostly in the mid to high 70s
we would always hope for at least 1 80+ degree day so we could go to the lake and not have cold waters
we would get maybe 1 weeks worth of 80+ degree days
and that would come around the 1st week in Aug
i dont even need to go into the fact that this is not the case this year, or talk about how hot it is
cause most of us here in the states are feeling it

i was just telling my daughter this morning that you know things are super bad, when its a 82 degree day (like it is here today) and im wearing a t shirt outside talking about how glad i am its cool enough to get some yard work done
i never thought i would be saying that about a 82 degree day
 Quoting: NiNzrez


I'm in Cali.- upper Saco valley. usually in the 90's- 100's from late June thru end Aug. But the Sunshine is hotter on the skin now, I am sure it's not just me feeling this, as the plants and trees are all sick, too.
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This all made me think of the Carrington Event. It was suppose to have hit the earth in 17 hours, so it was very fast moving also. No one knows how big the flare was, only a bunch of guesses of around X-50 to X-100. Those guesses are when people forget that a M-flare can let loose a huge CME.

Please correct me if I am wrong here, as I am not a scientist in any way, shape or form.

If a huge CME from say a M-8 flare, was heading to earth at the speeds of that rare speed event, could it have been the cause of the Carrington Event and not some huge X50+ flare? I know a lot have to be taken into consideration when talking about a solar event that could potentially kill the grid and nothing is ever simple, but just reading what you all are saying makes me wonder.

The last X-flare had a few worried about the grid, so we all know it doesn't have to be huge to be a problem.
 Quoting: whiteangel


my guess on the flare size from the carrington event is a small to mid sized M flare
flare size has nothing what so ever to do with the size of a CME
some of the largest CMEs seen did not even come from a X flare
and there can be CMEs without a flare ever happening at all

a flare size is something to take note on and watch
but when speaking of the carrington event, or another carrington event, we are speaking of a CME
it matters none at all what size the flare was that the carrington CME came from, cause it was the CME itself that did the damage
the carrington CME was large and fast


google "june 7 2011 CME" to see one of the largest blasts of mass ever witnessed on the sun
and it came from a small M flare

this is why i want to bang my head when there is a big CME from lets say a small M flare, and you see so many running around saying "wake me up when its a X20 or higher"
i would almost put money on the new age carrington not even coming from a very large solar flare
i would say to watch those M flares that produce CMEs
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Last bunch of M flares and CME's were scary enough for me. Maybe more scary because of how HOT we are on the ground here already. Power lines are maxed-out because of air conditioning units all over the valley floor, then all we need is a big blast of highly charged ejecta thrown on top!
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Denver is breaking heat records all over the place. We have now had 13 days 100 degrees or higher. This has broken the old record of 7 days. I lost track of how many days we have been 90+. It is the hottest summer so far on record. I use to spend the summers with my cousins here and loved how much cooler it was, as I was living in Phoenix at the time, and laughed at outdoor pools that were heated. Pools are being heated this year, that's for sure!!
 Quoting: whiteangel


That is esp. miserable when you are not used to it. Also the altitude there makes the heat/sunshine worse.
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June 11 2011 CME : [link to www.youtube.com]
thanks Nin!
 Quoting: SpiderJones


here is a image of that CME
[link to www.nasa.gov]
everyone take note on the region this CME came from?!
happens to be right around the same as 1515 or soon to be new 1530 as well as 1520
it also happens to be the same area that the record breaking Nox 2003 X flare, the largest X flare on record came from
[link to www.holoscience.com]
thus why i personally watch this region of the solar disk so close
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Is that the 60 degree mark, possibly 70?
 Quoting: whiteangel


You talking about the latitude on the Sun? we need to find a grid map.- I will look now, and post it if I find one.
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[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]
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Back from aikido training.
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C4+
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krav maga gal myself
but a big props for learning any martial arts :)
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thanks.
Never heard of that before. Israeli martial arts who would have thought of that.
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June 11 2011 CME : [link to www.youtube.com]
thanks Nin!
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here is a image of that CME
[link to www.nasa.gov]
everyone take note on the region this CME came from?!
happens to be right around the same as 1515 or soon to be new 1530 as well as 1520
it also happens to be the same area that the record breaking Nox 2003 X flare, the largest X flare on record came from
[link to www.holoscience.com]
thus why i personally watch this region of the solar disk so close
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Is that the 60 degree mark, possibly 70?
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You talking about the latitude on the Sun? we need to find a grid map.- I will look now, and post it if I find one.
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Here is one [link to solar-center.stanford.edu]
were you speaking about longitude 70 degrees? Looks like you are right.
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OMG- and did you see the drought monitor map of India? Bad, bad drought. Poor people there! It seems as though drought is almost everywhere.
GLPer from India, where are you located?
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google "june 7 2011 CME" to see one of the largest blasts of mass ever witnessed on the sun
and it came from a small M flare

this is why i want to bang my head when there is a big CME from lets say a small M flare, and you see so many running around saying "wake me up when its a X20 or higher"
i would almost put money on the new age carrington not even coming from a very large solar flare
i would say to watch those M flares that produce CMEs
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yeah, I agree... but what I find strange is that some M flares (mostly long duration) produce more powerful CMEs than X flares when by definition X flares release a lot more energy. How can the extra energy (like the one which happened yesterday at 3400 kn/s) in M flares be explained?
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google "june 7 2011 CME" to see one of the largest blasts of mass ever witnessed on the sun
and it came from a small M flare

this is why i want to bang my head when there is a big CME from lets say a small M flare, and you see so many running around saying "wake me up when its a X20 or higher"
i would almost put money on the new age carrington not even coming from a very large solar flare
i would say to watch those M flares that produce CMEs
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yeah, I agree... but what I find strange is that some M flares (mostly long duration) produce more powerful CMEs than X flares when by definition X flares release a lot more energy. How can the extra energy (like the one which happened yesterday at 3400 kn/s) in M flares be explained?
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Measuring different forms of energy- X-rays, ultra violet, protons, highly charged plasma. Not all energy visable in a solar blast leaves the solar surface, some of the plasma falls back into the Sun. Also, this might be a question of force(of the blast of the CME) vs energy output.
[link to missionscience.nasa.gov]
Sorry, my answer is not as good as I would like it ot be. The GOES X-ray flux graph shows x-ray energy in watts per square meter, it is only one way to measure what the Sun is doing.
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Rare- as in 'how do you want your steak?'
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look at this
VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's rapid departure from the sun:

now they are classifying this as a Rare or R
well there very own video would clearly put this as an ER or extremely rare.
they even state it only happens once every 5 to 10 year....that and the speed would clearly put it in the classification of ER
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according to the speed class
any CME 3000 km/sec or faster is classed as a ER event-
Extremely Rare
i guess they want to avoid using that term ^^
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Tell you what Nin- the Sun is so hot here now, that I shudder when I think of the power and heat delivered in a huge CME- it's scary as hell!
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what state are you in?
im in Michigan
when i moved here in 2000 and up till 2 years ago, every summer my family and i would complain how there was barley ever any 80+ degree days in the summer
mostly in the mid to high 70s
we would always hope for at least 1 80+ degree day so we could go to the lake and not have cold waters
we would get maybe 1 weeks worth of 80+ degree days
and that would come around the 1st week in Aug
i dont even need to go into the fact that this is not the case this year, or talk about how hot it is
cause most of us here in the states are feeling it

i was just telling my daughter this morning that you know things are super bad, when its a 82 degree day (like it is here today) and im wearing a t shirt outside talking about how glad i am its cool enough to get some yard work done
i never thought i would be saying that about a 82 degree day
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Hey Nin-( and everyone) check this out- the Sun really is hotter! And this was published in 1998!
[link to hypertextbook.com]
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OMG- and did you see the drought monitor map of India? Bad, bad drought. Poor people there! It seems as though drought is almost everywhere.
GLPer from India, where are you located?
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my corner deli own is from Pakistan...
they are in no better shape over there.
he has told me they are having temps of...OVER 125 degree F for weeks on end.
125degrees F HS! WTF! you can only expect droughts to be going on with that heat!
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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OMG- and did you see the drought monitor map of India? Bad, bad drought. Poor people there! It seems as though drought is almost everywhere.
GLPer from India, where are you located?
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my corner deli own is from Pakistan...
they are in no better shape over there.
he has told me they are having temps of...OVER 125 degree F for weeks on end.
125degrees F HS! WTF! you can only expect droughts to be going on with that heat!
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OMG- that is insane, people trying to live in that !!! No relief from those temps!
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i do not know if this is true for others...but my son and i are not sun burning this year!
turning brown but not burning....
the sun is killer bright and freaking hot...not burning.
we just spent 3 hours in the sun from 3pm to6pm...no sun block...still no burn?
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Amazing, isn't it? And we haven't reached solar max. yet!hiding
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i do not know if this is true for others...but my son and i are not sun burning this year!
turning brown but not burning....
the sun is killer bright and freaking hot...not burning.
we just spent 3 hours in the sun from 3pm to6pm...no sun block...still no burn?
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Check out this magnetic bridge on the sun , pictured here on spaceweather: [link to www.spaceweather.com]
our Sun is awesome!
It's high heat of the day here now, time for a nap- see you all later.hi
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Check out this magnetic bridge on the sun , pictured here on spaceweather: [link to www.spaceweather.com]
our Sun is awesome!
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Researchers once thought that sunspots were independent operators, but SDO has shown over and over again that widely-spaced sunspots can be linked. An eruption in one can set off an explosion in another, leading to a chain reaction that can spread around the circumference of the sun. The global eruption of August 2010 is a memorable example.

yep awesome
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