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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Good morning 76, 88 hf

Beautiful shot ... I don't think I've ever seen a filament from that perspective, far less intimidating.
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^^This^^

Good Morning Everyone! Hope you all had a nice weekend.

Sorry about your husbands delay, Shenue:(
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Good Morning Mama...thank you
I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Then it dawned on me.
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Hello Mama, Angel.

I was reading back a couple pages and noticed everyone was concerned about the integrity of the magnetosphere last night.

I'm looking at the streamer now, and I'm not seeing anything of concern, no penetration of the field ??? Was it hot within the field ??

Looks pretty stable from 11:00 UTC 8/19 till now, what were you guys referring to ??

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: TS66


Last night about 8pm MDT, it freaked out like something slammed into it or it snapped like a rubber band. I don't know how to take screen shots and what I did save, updated automatically. Hopefully others saved images of all the concern.
 Quoting: whiteangel


I think we were hit with solar winds from the coronal hole last night.

Wind speed, density and temp were up, and it was anticipated if I remember correctly.

Unless they changed the streamer, it looks like the field held up pretty well, no penetration. Gives me a little more confidence that it can hold up to the bigger stuff hf

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Some good news on SDO imagery....



The data is currently still down. Might be back this afternoon




Chilled water is still off at Stanford and HMI and AIA images remain unavailable. Best estimate is they will be available Monday afternoon
[link to sdoisgo.blogspot.de]
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Curiosity (Mini Cooper sized Mars rover)
The Radiation Assessment Detector (RAD) is an energetic particle analyzer designed to characterize the full spectrum of energetic particle radiation at the surface of Mars, including galactic cosmic rays (GCRs), solar energetic particles (SEPs), secondary neutrons and other particles created both in the atmosphere and in the Martian regolith.
Mars atmosphere is 1% thickness of Earth with no magnetic field
How the device works and video of its operation: [link to mslrad.boulder.swri.edu]
Measuring Radition on Mars: [link to www.youtube.com]
Mars Curiosity Rover Scientific Instruments Explained in Detail: [link to www.youtube.com]
Also mentioned are the number of particles measured by the GOES-13 spacecraft (in orbit around Earth) for medium (red) and high (green) energy levels, as well as the numbers measured by the RAD-experiment (blue). The medium energy levels are very important, as they are usually used to determine if a flare is a proton event or not, and how strong it is.
The full article is here: [link to www.stce.be]

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Hello Mama, Angel.

I was reading back a couple pages and noticed everyone was concerned about the integrity of the magnetosphere last night.

I'm looking at the streamer now, and I'm not seeing anything of concern, no penetration of the field ??? Was it hot within the field ??

Looks pretty stable from 11:00 UTC 8/19 till now, what were you guys referring to ??

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: TS66


Here are the shots Cesium saved

From this
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

To this

[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Very unusual signature,not so much damaging as abnormal

Last Edited by shadahoochie on 08/20/2012 01:16 PM
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember seeing the same balled up messes on the NICT simulations, depending on the intensity, or lack of, solar activity.

I think the only difference being, you can see more of the "tail" of the field with this simulation.

It certainly looks intimidating, but NICT used to "freak" me out a little with their sims too. I remember looking at it as a big jumbled mess as a big CME approached, thinking, "ok, open your wings now !!!"

LOL

This is good example, maybe not the best, but it gives you a good idea for those who have never seen it.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Curiosity (Mini Cooper sized Mars rover)
The Radiation Assessment Detector (RAD) is an energetic particle analyzer designed to characterize the full spectrum of energetic particle radiation at the surface of Mars, including galactic cosmic rays (GCRs), solar energetic particles (SEPs), secondary neutrons and other particles created both in the atmosphere and in the Martian regolith.
Mars atmosphere is 1% thickness of Earth with no magnetic field
How the device works and video of its operation: [link to mslrad.boulder.swri.edu]
Measuring Radition on Mars: [link to www.youtube.com]
Mars Curiosity Rover Scientific Instruments Explained in Detail: [link to www.youtube.com]
Also mentioned are the number of particles measured by the GOES-13 spacecraft (in orbit around Earth) for medium (red) and high (green) energy levels, as well as the numbers measured by the RAD-experiment (blue). The medium energy levels are very important, as they are usually used to determine if a flare is a proton event or not, and how strong it is.
The full article is here: [link to www.stce.be]

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Good article, thank you. Let's hope we never go the way of Mars.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember seeing the same balled up messes on the NICT simulations, depending on the intensity, or lack of, solar activity.

I think the only difference being, you can see more of the "tail" of the field with this simulation.

It certainly looks intimidating, but NICT used to "freak" me out a little with their sims too. I remember looking at it as a big jumbled mess as a big CME approached, thinking, "ok, open your wings now !!!"

LOL

This is good example, maybe not the best, but it gives you a good idea for those who have never seen it.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: TS66


Yeah I remember those. There would be thread after thread about how our magnetosphere was gone when in reality it was doing exactly what it was supposed to do, man I miss Nict.
I wasn't worried so much about the damage as the fact that we were in a pretty puny CH wind and that simulation acted way to distressed for the situation. We are starting to store alot of subatomic particles and our lines are reacting to the simplest solar energy. I believe theres a big decline in our cores electrodynamic signature. I'm not worried as much about the sun as I am the earth!
Have a good day all, its nice to have you here TS, you make me think,ouch! lol hf
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember seeing the same balled up messes on the NICT simulations, depending on the intensity, or lack of, solar activity.

I think the only difference being, you can see more of the "tail" of the field with this simulation.

It certainly looks intimidating, but NICT used to "freak" me out a little with their sims too. I remember looking at it as a big jumbled mess as a big CME approached, thinking, "ok, open your wings now !!!"

LOL

This is good example, maybe not the best, but it gives you a good idea for those who have never seen it.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: TS66


Yeah I remember those. There would be thread after thread about how our magnetosphere was gone when in reality it was doing exactly what it was supposed to do, man I miss Nict.
I wasn't worried so much about the damage as the fact that we were in a pretty puny CH wind and that simulation acted way to distressed for the situation. We are starting to store alot of subatomic particles and our lines are reacting to the simplest solar energy. I believe theres a big decline in our cores electrodynamic signature. I'm not worried as much about the sun as I am the earth!
Have a good day all, its nice to have you here TS, you make me think,ouch! lol hf
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Oh, don't get me wrong Shada, I'm watching that streamer sim like a hawk .... there have been a couple of cmes that have penetrated the field as recently as a month ago I believe, and they were not all that impressive either.

We'll just keep watching and waiting hf
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looks like the sprites are back.....
[link to spaceweather.com]
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checking in on SDO...still to hot i guess...


but, can anyone explain this?
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Thanks for sharing IWTB!

Unfortunate that 1548 has gone calm the last couple days.
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checking in on SDO...still to hot i guess...


but, can anyone explain this?
[link to www.solarmonitor.org]
 Quoting: psyoptics


1dunno1

I don't think that has anything to do with A/C LOL.
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checking in on SDO...still to hot i guess...


but, can anyone explain this?
[link to www.solarmonitor.org]
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1dunno1

I don't think that has anything to do with A/C LOL.
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i do not know much about this man...
but it fit into the image i found.
[link to thewatchers.adorraeli.com]
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checking in on SDO...still to hot i guess...


but, can anyone explain this?
[link to www.solarmonitor.org]
 Quoting: psyoptics


1dunno1

I don't think that has anything to do with A/C LOL.
 Quoting: TS66


i do not know much about this man...
but it fit into the image i found.
[link to thewatchers.adorraeli.com]
 Quoting: psyoptics


Great link .... brings more questions than answers though ....

I've seen that black spot on EVE for quite a while now. I just assumed it had something to do with the lenses.
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checking in on SDO...still to hot i guess...


but, can anyone explain this?
[link to www.solarmonitor.org]
 Quoting: psyoptics


1dunno1

I don't think that has anything to do with A/C LOL.
 Quoting: TS66


i do not know much about this man...
but it fit into the image i found.
[link to thewatchers.adorraeli.com]
 Quoting: psyoptics


Great link .... brings more questions than answers though ....

I've seen that black spot on EVE for quite a while now. I just assumed it had something to do with the lenses.
 Quoting: TS66

as far as i know that is an imager issues that happened when it was put up in orbit...they have since called it the dark area and try to align it out of the picture...but sometimes they can not.
the rest is just odd!

and look at this.
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
all the other SOHO images now are good.
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

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checking in on SDO...still to hot i guess...


but, can anyone explain this?
[link to www.solarmonitor.org]
 Quoting: psyoptics


1dunno1

I don't think that has anything to do with A/C LOL.
 Quoting: TS66


i do not know much about this man...
but it fit into the image i found.
[link to thewatchers.adorraeli.com]
 Quoting: psyoptics


Great link .... brings more questions than answers though ....

I've seen that black spot on EVE for quite a while now. I just assumed it had something to do with the lenses.
 Quoting: TS66

this has been occurring for years.
[link to lasp.colorado.edu]

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1dunno1

I don't think that has anything to do with A/C LOL.
 Quoting: TS66


i do not know much about this man...
but it fit into the image i found.
[link to thewatchers.adorraeli.com]
 Quoting: psyoptics


Great link .... brings more questions than answers though ....

I've seen that black spot on EVE for quite a while now. I just assumed it had something to do with the lenses.
 Quoting: TS66

as far as i know that is an imager issues that happened when it was put up in orbit...they have since called it the dark area and try to align it out of the picture...but sometimes they can not.
the rest is just odd!

and look at this.
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
all the other SOHO images now are good.
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: psyoptics


Fact is it's all very frustrating to know, we will never know ......

Hey Angel, take a look at psyoptics link above, looks like your busy friend 30 is just rounding the bend, and the other, 32 is right behind !!! [link to www.solarham.net]
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well, we can not see SDO today. lets look at some images from the past...of sheer power!
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
and this!
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

now that is power!

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i do not know much about this man...
but it fit into the image i found.
[link to thewatchers.adorraeli.com]
 Quoting: psyoptics


Great link .... brings more questions than answers though ....

I've seen that black spot on EVE for quite a while now. I just assumed it had something to do with the lenses.
 Quoting: TS66

as far as i know that is an imager issues that happened when it was put up in orbit...they have since called it the dark area and try to align it out of the picture...but sometimes they can not.
the rest is just odd!

and look at this.
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
all the other SOHO images now are good.
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: psyoptics


Fact is it's all very frustrating to know, we will never know ......

Hey Angel, take a look at psyoptics link above, looks like your busy friend 30 is just rounding the bend, and the other, 32 is right behind !!! [link to www.solarham.net]
 Quoting: TS66


Got my eyes on it and wondering if it will fizzle or be more active...oh, GLP effect....it is just a puny baby not worth noticing at all....lol
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Watching and waiting and working around the house...

I hate when things are this slow....

Hope y'all are having a great day

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Monday, August 20, 2012
A.C. Restored at Stanford, HMI & AIA Images are Flowing
The air conditioning at Stanford has been repaired and images are once again flowing to the right places. While the 48 hours of catchup is being played some images may be seen in the wrong order as a `latest' file. This is normal during the replay of the telemetry but the usual flow should be seen tomorrow morning.
The full article is here: [link to sdoisgo.blogspot.com]
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Great link .... brings more questions than answers though ....

I've seen that black spot on EVE for quite a while now. I just assumed it had something to do with the lenses.
 Quoting: TS66

as far as i know that is an imager issues that happened when it was put up in orbit...they have since called it the dark area and try to align it out of the picture...but sometimes they can not.
the rest is just odd!

and look at this.
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
all the other SOHO images now are good.
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: psyoptics


Fact is it's all very frustrating to know, we will never know ......

Hey Angel, take a look at psyoptics link above, looks like your busy friend 30 is just rounding the bend, and the other, 32 is right behind !!! [link to www.solarham.net]
 Quoting: TS66


Got my eyes on it and wondering if it will fizzle or be more active...oh, GLP effect....it is just a puny baby not worth noticing at all....lol
 Quoting: whiteangel


wink
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Watching and waiting and working around the house...

I hate when things are this slow....

Hope y'all are having a great day

rockon
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It's like it died out there, but should pick back up on the 23rd, possibly the 22nd late.
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Many new earth facing regions to be numbered ....

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Hello Mama, Angel.

I was reading back a couple pages and noticed everyone was concerned about the integrity of the magnetosphere last night.

I'm looking at the streamer now, and I'm not seeing anything of concern, no penetration of the field ??? Was it hot within the field ??

Looks pretty stable from 11:00 UTC 8/19 till now, what were you guys referring to ??

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: TS66
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Hello Mama, Angel.

I was reading back a couple pages and noticed everyone was concerned about the integrity of the magnetosphere last night.

I'm looking at the streamer now, and I'm not seeing anything of concern, no penetration of the field ??? Was it hot within the field ??

Looks pretty stable from 11:00 UTC 8/19 till now, what were you guys referring to ??

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: TS66

 Quoting: IZM 14589973


Sorry 66..I was supposed to post this [link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] Scroll through the images on there..it has been wild.

I feel horrid.
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Fok Ring [link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] ?
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When it looks like this, what does the red mean? Sorry, only still learning and this isn't one I know too well yet.
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Hello Mama, Angel.

I was reading back a couple pages and noticed everyone was concerned about the integrity of the magnetosphere last night.

I'm looking at the streamer now, and I'm not seeing anything of concern, no penetration of the field ??? Was it hot within the field ??

Looks pretty stable from 11:00 UTC 8/19 till now, what were you guys referring to ??

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: TS66

 Quoting: IZM 14589973


Sorry 66..I was supposed to post this [link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] Scroll through the images on there..it has been wild.

I feel horrid.
 Quoting: IZME 14589973


The mag fields can look pretty crazy when they are in action no doubt.

The streamer looks solid, I'm not seeing any penetration [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

Gobal D is as cool as a cucumber [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Other than a pretty good proton spike at 9:00 UTC [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] along with ACE [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] look pretty stable ....

In conclusion, as wild as it looks ... IMHO it's doing exactly what it should be ... as Martha would say "it's a good thing" hf

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