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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Heya Hugh!
Headed out to the desert for a few days so im gonna miss some of the action, good to see you back here 'at work'
Peace and stay safe all
Nerd
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Enjoy the piece, safe travels Nerd hf
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Freudian Slip?

5a
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


LMAO ... it's possible

Although as you may have noticed, I HAVE TO go back an edit almost every fricken thing I post, and it's getting worse and worse !!!
 Quoting: TS66


i have to do the same exact thing!
i type so fast its as if im talking and i have so many oopsies that i have to fix after i hit post
andddd i just now noticed i have been posting everything this evening as a AC cause i was not signed in again
whats up with me getting logged out constantly today :/
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I have to be honest, I have no clue what ultimately sets these things off for sure ....
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I'm so far beneath these guys it's rediculus. but.
My background is 9 yr USAF Electronic Warfare and 6 yr civ.
Electrons flow toward protons. If there is no resistance between them, they explode to the extent of the least powerful of the two. This can be acheived by a wire, or filament. Plumbing works in a similar fashion.
Electromagnotism is like bringing a 3rd dimension into the picture. This shit with the sun and the earth is even more mind boggling (a 4th diminsion, perhaps). On this thread I'm a 2 dimensional guy in a 4 dimension world. What a THRILL!

wtf
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


Well, you're light years ahead of me, I'm just getting a grasp on 2D myself. 3D, (AKA reality lol), sometimes scares me a little.

I'm sure if you hang here for a while we'll eventually have a much better understanding hf
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Enjoy the piece, safe travels Nerd hf
 Quoting: TS66

Freudian Slip?

5a
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


LMAO ... it's possible

Although as you may have noticed, I HAVE TO go back an edit almost every fricken thing I post, and it's getting worse and worse !!!
 Quoting: TS66


i have to do the same exact thing!
i type so fast its as if im talking and i have so many oopsies that i have to fix after i hit post
andddd i just now noticed i have been posting everything this evening as a AC cause i was not signed in again
whats up with me getting logged out constantly today :/
 Quoting: NiNzrez 12844841

So nice to know I'm not the only one ... sometimes I look back at my posts and wonder if English was truly my first language.
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Enjoy the piece, safe travels Nerd hf
 Quoting: TS66

Freudian Slip?

5a
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


LMAO ... it's possible

Although as you may have noticed, I HAVE TO go back an edit almost every fricken thing I post, and it's getting worse and worse !!!
 Quoting: TS66


i have to do the same exact thing!
i type so fast its as if im talking and i have so many oopsies that i have to fix after i hit post
andddd i just now noticed i have been posting everything this evening as a AC cause i was not signed in again
whats up with me getting logged out constantly today :/
 Quoting: NiNzrez 12844841


You guys crack me up, some of my scatter brained post come out so screwy, I'm hitting edit before it hits the screen.

You guys are awesome
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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I have to be honest, I have no clue what ultimately sets these things off for sure ....
 Quoting: TS66


I'm so far beneath these guys it's rediculus. but.
My background is 9 yr USAF Electronic Warfare and 6 yr civ.
Electrons flow toward protons. If there is no resistance between them, they explode to the extent of the least powerful of the two. This can be acheived by a wire, or filament. Plumbing works in a similar fashion.
Electromagnotism is like bringing a 3rd dimension into the picture. This shit with the sun and the earth is even more mind boggling (a 4th diminsion, perhaps). On this thread I'm a 2 dimensional guy in a 4 dimension world. What a THRILL!

wtf
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


Well, you're light years ahead of me, I'm just getting a grasp on 2D myself. 3D, (AKA reality lol), sometimes scares me a little.

I'm sure if you hang here for a while we'll eventually have a much better understanding hf
 Quoting: TS66


That's why I'm here. I seek Truth.
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


You got a great base of knowledge you're going to catch on quick. Its taken my biology based brain years to pick anything up, but its fun learning!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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So Nin, if Phi goes negative do they switch up the chart to accommodate negative readings .... it's been at near zero ever since this CME started our way ???


(Well right up to a second ago at least ...)
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Freudian Slip?

5a
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


LMAO ... it's possible

Although as you may have noticed, I HAVE TO go back an edit almost every fricken thing I post, and it's getting worse and worse !!!
 Quoting: TS66


i have to do the same exact thing!
i type so fast its as if im talking and i have so many oopsies that i have to fix after i hit post
andddd i just now noticed i have been posting everything this evening as a AC cause i was not signed in again
whats up with me getting logged out constantly today :/
 Quoting: NiNzrez 12844841

So nice to know I'm not the only one ... sometimes I look back at my posts and wonder if English was truly my first language.
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I was just scanning through posts and it hit me in the head.
That word is always a straight line. ( I joke alot). Meant no harm.
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[link to mms.rice.edu]

[link to mms.rice.edu]

wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Streamer animation looks good for the mag field today 1dunno1

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

The Phi that Nin explained today has me a little concerned. We look wide open for connectivity.

Again up until just a little while ago ... headed North, and seems to staying there.

[link to www.solarham.net]
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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


We're wide open, anything is pretty much geo-effective at this point! 1560 has us at its mercy right now!

TS has pointed out that should be a registered BGD!

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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Streamer animation looks good for the mag field today 1dunno1

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: TS66


well we are not being hit yet.
with voltage flowing and the Bz just about full south. IMF is starting to push hard keeping Bz south.
if we were hit with a plasma mass now that field band would not look as nice as it does now....
we are not it....
we are just PRIMED for a bad time!
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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I'm watching the incoming but more concerned about what, say, 1560 can do if our shields are down.
A good spurt can hit us in 18 hours.

note psyoptic's observations.

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So Nin, if Phi goes negative do they switch up the chart to accommodate negative readings .... it's been at near zero ever since this CME started our way ???


(Well right up to a second ago at least ...)
 Quoting: TS66


The Phi plot is a compass-based coordinate...001-360 degrees. So there is no negative Phi.
hf
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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Streamer animation looks good for the mag field today 1dunno1

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

The Phi that Nin explained today has me a little concerned. We look wide open for connectivity.

Again up until just a little while ago ... headed North, and seems to staying there.

[link to www.solarham.net]
 Quoting: TS66


TS are are cracking me up???
i respond to your post then i read back....and there is more there?

i do that all the time too.
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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[link to mms.rice.edu]

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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Streamer animation looks good for the mag field today 1dunno1

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: TS66


well we are not being hit yet.
with voltage flowing and the Bz just about full south. IMF is starting to push hard keeping Bz south.
if we were hit with a plasma mass now that field band would not look as nice as it does now....
we are not it....
we are just PRIMED for a bad time!
 Quoting: psyoptics


I just don't think there is a way to no for sure until it's here.
What is strange is the PCA on global D, but then again Bz is really south and we are vulnerable. It's just not apparent on the streamer.
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[link to mms.rice.edu]

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wow we have gone way south for ...well all day now...seeing a lot of voltage across the polar caps now.


wow we are not sitting in a friendly place now.

has the IMF primed us for these plasma hits?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Streamer animation looks good for the mag field today 1dunno1

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

The Phi that Nin explained today has me a little concerned. We look wide open for connectivity.

Again up until just a little while ago ... headed North, and seems to staying there.

[link to www.solarham.net]
 Quoting: TS66


TS are are cracking me up???
i respond to your post then i read back....and there is more there?

i do that all the time too.
 Quoting: psyoptics



Well I post alot, feel it's good etiquette to consolidate as much as possible !!!
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I'm watching the incoming but more concerned about what, say, 1560 can do if our shields are down.
A good spurt can hit us in 18 hours.

note psyoptic's observations.
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So Nin, if Phi goes negative do they switch up the chart to accommodate negative readings .... it's been at near zero ever since this CME started our way ???


(Well right up to a second ago at least ...)
 Quoting: TS66


The Phi plot is a compass-based coordinate...001-360 degrees. So there is no negative Phi.
hf
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye
So 180 would be ground zero, above +, below - ???

So we have been to the extreme negative all day ??

eee gads

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, Phi just clicked for me today too :shy: lol
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I'm watching the incoming but more concerned about what, say, 1560 can do if our shields are down.
A good spurt can hit us in 18 hours.
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


Well if we get hit with this like solarham says in the morning, we've got 2CMEs 2 days out, and anything we may pick up from 1560 from here on out could be moderate. Our electromagnetism is shitty right now! Makes things interesting.

The TEC has been above average for awhile,with big spikes over the last week,alot of magma flow and off dominant currents. We are going into a very unstable week all the way around! Stay safe all, and ALERT!
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So Nin, if Phi goes negative do they switch up the chart to accommodate negative readings .... it's been at near zero ever since this CME started our way ???


(Well right up to a second ago at least ...)
 Quoting: TS66


The Phi plot is a compass-based coordinate...001-360 degrees. So there is no negative Phi.
hf
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye
So 180 would be ground zero, above +, below - ???

So we have been to the extreme negative all day ??

eee gads

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, Phi just clicked for me today too shy lol
 Quoting: TS66


If an atomic duck would pass gas right now it would be geo effective. sorry heard that somewhere once!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Enlil's geoeffective model has updated, now it shows both the filament ejection and the 2nd cme coming up behind it.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

looks like, as with the filament ejection, we may not be getting the worst of that cme. however the one two punch is still there. we're already being hit by a minor storm and -10 Bz and the first of these two punches may not have even landed fully yet!
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So Nin, if Phi goes negative do they switch up the chart to accommodate negative readings .... it's been at near zero ever since this CME started our way ???


(Well right up to a second ago at least ...)
 Quoting: TS66


The Phi plot is a compass-based coordinate...001-360 degrees. So there is no negative Phi.
hf
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye
So 180 would be ground zero, above +, below - ???

So we have been to the extreme negative all day ??

eee gads

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, Phi just clicked for me today too :shy: lol
 Quoting: TS66


If an atomic duck would pass gas right now it would be geo effective. sorry heard that somewhere once!
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Now that's funny !!! LMAO
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I'm watching the incoming but more concerned about what, say, 1560 can do if our shields are down.
A good spurt can hit us in 18 hours.
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


Well if we get hit with this like solarham says in the morning, we've got 2CMEs 2 days out, and anything we may pick up from 1560 from here on out could be moderate. Our electromagnetism is shitty right now! Makes things interesting.

The TEC has been above average for awhile,with big spikes over the last week,alot of magma flow and off dominant currents. We are going into a very unstable week all the way around! Stay safe all, and ALERT!
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agreed but if you see my earlier post all of the science you have can only give us a "likelyhood".
I've bought chandeliers in Vegas.
What if something "unlikely" (10% maybe) happens?
Bets are off.

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I have to be honest, I have no clue what ultimately sets these things off for sure ....
 Quoting: TS66


I'm so far beneath these guys it's rediculus. but.
My background is 9 yr USAF Electronic Warfare and 6 yr civ.
Electrons flow toward protons. If there is no resistance between them, they explode to the extent of the least powerful of the two. This can be acheived by a wire, or filament. Plumbing works in a similar fashion.
Electromagnotism is like bringing a 3rd dimension into the picture. This shit with the sun and the earth is even more mind boggling (a 4th diminsion, perhaps). On this thread I'm a 2 dimensional guy in a 4 dimension world. What a THRILL!

wtf
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


Well, you're light years ahead of me, I'm just getting a grasp on 2D myself. 3D, (AKA reality lol), sometimes scares me a little.

I'm sure if you hang here for a while we'll eventually have a much better understanding hf
 Quoting: TS66


That's why I'm here. I seek Truth.
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and me

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So Nin, if Phi goes negative do they switch up the chart to accommodate negative readings .... it's been at near zero ever since this CME started our way ???


(Well right up to a second ago at least ...)
 Quoting: TS66


The Phi plot is a compass-based coordinate...001-360 degrees. So there is no negative Phi.
hf
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye
So 180 would be ground zero, above +, below - ???

So we have been to the extreme negative all day ??

eee gads

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, Phi just clicked for me today too shy lol
 Quoting: TS66


I think of it more like a wind-sock; measuring the direction of flow of plasma at the ACE detectors. I think Tomasgod explained it to me as the angle of incidence of particles striking the detector. There's no bad Phi reading as far as I know, it's like an anemometer or weather vane on Earth. The windspeed is much more important than the direction. I hope I'm correct on this, I asked Tom 'cause I couldn't find any info on it anywhere, haha.

The C 1.8 was from AR1564 again.

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Enlil's geoeffective model has updated, now it shows both the filament ejection and the 2nd cme coming up behind it.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

looks like, as with the filament ejection, we may not be getting the worst of that cme. however the one two punch is still there. we're already being hit by a minor storm and -10 Bz and the first of these two punches may not have even landed fully yet!
 Quoting: madajs


Look at the plasma density side view, it shows a pretty solid hit from both.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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So Nin, if Phi goes negative do they switch up the chart to accommodate negative readings .... it's been at near zero ever since this CME started our way ???


(Well right up to a second ago at least ...)
 Quoting: TS66


The Phi plot is a compass-based coordinate...001-360 degrees. So there is no negative Phi.
hf
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye
So 180 would be ground zero, above +, below - ???

So we have been to the extreme negative all day ??

eee gads

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, Phi just clicked for me today too :shy: lol
 Quoting: TS66


I think of it more like a wind-sock; measuring the direction of flow of plasma at the ACE detectors. I think Tomasgod explained it to me as the angle of incidence of particles striking the detector. There's no bad Phi reading as far as I know, it's like an anemometer or weather vane on Earth. The windspeed is much more important than the direction. I hope I'm correct on this, I asked Tom 'cause I couldn't find any info on it anywhere, haha.

The C 1.8 was from AR1564 again.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


This is what Nin pointed out to us today, maybe I have interpreted it wrong ???

[link to mysolaralerts.blogspot.com]
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So Nin, if Phi goes negative do they switch up the chart to accommodate negative readings .... it's been at near zero ever since this CME started our way ???


(Well right up to a second ago at least ...)
 Quoting: TS66


The Phi plot is a compass-based coordinate...001-360 degrees. So there is no negative Phi.
hf
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye
So 180 would be ground zero, above +, below - ???

So we have been to the extreme negative all day ??

eee gads

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, Phi just clicked for me today too shy lol
 Quoting: TS66


I think of it more like a wind-sock; measuring the direction of flow of plasma at the ACE detectors. I think Tomasgod explained it to me as the angle of incidence of particles striking the detector. There's no bad Phi reading as far as I know, it's like an anemometer or weather vane on Earth. The windspeed is much more important than the direction. I hope I'm correct on this, I asked Tom 'cause I couldn't find any info on it anywhere, haha.

The C 1.8 was from AR1564 again.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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Hugh, I agree totally (but i am a dummy) with the windspeed being a big player. That is what compresses our magnetosphere to being vulnerable. The poles are naked anyway.
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Same fraggled readings as earlier...

What a peculiar holding pattern today has been.

I, too, seek the truth Jeff..and I have a feeling this thread gets pretty damn close.

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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Enlil's geoeffective model has updated, now it shows both the filament ejection and the 2nd cme coming up behind it.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

looks like, as with the filament ejection, we may not be getting the worst of that cme. however the one two punch is still there. we're already being hit by a minor storm and -10 Bz and the first of these two punches may not have even landed fully yet!
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Look at the plasma density side view, it shows a pretty solid hit from both.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Yeah they're expecting something solid.
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