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First day of Fall/Autumn is September 22, 2012
Yom Kippur is September 25-26, 2012 (the Day of Atonement for the Jewish)
NASA warns of a solar event September 21/22, 2012

What else?
 Quoting: whiteangel

I still haven't seen anyone produce this NASA article where they warn of a solar event Sept 21 2012 : )
 Quoting: madajs


[link to solarstormwarning.com]

no date but 2012 in that one, still looking

Couldn't find anything with a date of Sept 21-22, 2012 either

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Looks like a little activity happening:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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First day of Fall/Autumn is September 22, 2012
Yom Kippur is September 25-26, 2012 (the Day of Atonement for the Jewish)
NASA warns of a solar event September 21/22, 2012

What else?
 Quoting: whiteangel

I still haven't seen anyone produce this NASA article where they warn of a solar event Sept 21 2012 : )
 Quoting: madajs


[link to solarstormwarning.com]

no date but 2012 in that one, still looking
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I've read it myself but can't remember when?
One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. Were no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. Its simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that weve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. Carl Sagan
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Darn it, flare dance only produced a c3.7 I'm out of practice, gonna meditate on this.
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"It is midnight on 22 September 2012 and the skies above Manhattan are filled with a flickering curtain of colorful light. Few New Yorkers have seen the aurora this far south but their fascination is short-lived. Within a few seconds, electric bulbs dim and flicker, then become unusually bright for a fleeting moment. Then all the lights in the state go out. Within 90 seconds, the entire eastern half of the US is without power.

A year later and millions of Americans are dead and the nation's infrastructure lies in tatters. The World Bank declares America a developing nation. Europe, Scandinavia, China and Japan are also struggling to recover from the same fateful event - a violent storm, 150 million kilometers away on the surface of the sun."
 Quoting: Gabriel

This I am familiar with. That's from this [link to www.newscientist.com] (must pay for full article, only shows preview)

[link to www.armageddononline.org] (full text)

Which is based on this report "funded by NASA and issued by the US National Academy of Sciences (NAS)" [link to www.nap.edu] (downloadable for free)

I checked the report, no attempt to predict any dates of events. In fact the only mention of "2012" in the whole report is this:

"The DOD is striving to increase the sampling of the space weather environment for the coming solar maximum
(in 2011-2012)"


So basically what we have is NewScientist covering a report by NASA/NAS and in NewScientist's article they start off with a hypothetical story of a storm and pick an arbitrary date, which isn't based on anything in the research report. And people go to town with that.

This is why we need to be careful about spreading rumours. It takes a lot of work to debunk. All that said, it's good to be prepared in general, arbitrary specific dates notwithstanding! : )
 Quoting: madajs

 Quoting: Gabriel

Yeah, don't get me wrong Gabe, I think an event is coming. I didn't investigate this because I think everything is going to be sunshine and roses in the next 10 years. I investigated it because if anything, I think these rumours hurt the preparation movement.

When we have arbitrary dates set and people freak out, and then nothing happens, that just increases the cynicism of the general public. People should be prepared for the grid to go down without any notice at all, they shouldn't wait for a prediction from NASA. Because frankly, they ain't gonna do us that favour.
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Darn it, flare dance only produced a c3.7 I'm out of practice, gonna meditate on this.
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Ha ha! I know! I keep refreshing the dang page!
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1560 is till popping off Cs upon it's exit. [link to lasp.colorado.edu]
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Many thanks to :
NiNzrez
Hugh M Eye
TS66
psyoptics
SpiderJones
whiteangel
shadasonic
Gabriel
Luisport
mtn_mang
AkivaJeff
to all the "Anonymous Cowards"
and all others....
for all of the information about the sun and what I learned 30years ago in college to be mostly debunked. Keep up the great work! Every day gets better. This is like school all over again!
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"It is midnight on 22 September 2012 and the skies above Manhattan are filled with a flickering curtain of colorful light. Few New Yorkers have seen the aurora this far south but their fascination is short-lived. Within a few seconds, electric bulbs dim and flicker, then become unusually bright for a fleeting moment. Then all the lights in the state go out. Within 90 seconds, the entire eastern half of the US is without power.

A year later and millions of Americans are dead and the nation's infrastructure lies in tatters. The World Bank declares America a developing nation. Europe, Scandinavia, China and Japan are also struggling to recover from the same fateful event - a violent storm, 150 million kilometers away on the surface of the sun."
 Quoting: Gabriel

This I am familiar with. That's from this [link to www.newscientist.com] (must pay for full article, only shows preview)

[link to www.armageddononline.org] (full text)

Which is based on this report "funded by NASA and issued by the US National Academy of Sciences (NAS)" [link to www.nap.edu] (downloadable for free)

I checked the report, no attempt to predict any dates of events. In fact the only mention of "2012" in the whole report is this:

"The DOD is striving to increase the sampling of the space weather environment for the coming solar maximum
(in 2011-2012)"


So basically what we have is NewScientist covering a report by NASA/NAS and in NewScientist's article they start off with a hypothetical story of a storm and pick an arbitrary date, which isn't based on anything in the research report. And people go to town with that.

This is why we need to be careful about spreading rumours. It takes a lot of work to debunk. All that said, it's good to be prepared in general, arbitrary specific dates notwithstanding! : )
 Quoting: madajs

 Quoting: Gabriel

Yeah, don't get me wrong Gabe, I think an event is coming. I didn't investigate this because I think everything is going to be sunshine and roses in the next 10 years. I investigated it because if anything, I think these rumours hurt the preparation movement.

When we have arbitrary dates set and people freak out, and then nothing happens, that just increases the cynicism of the general public. People should be prepared for the grid to go down without any notice at all, they shouldn't wait for a prediction from NASA. Because frankly, they ain't gonna do us that favour.
 Quoting: madajs


Live (life to the fullest) till you die. You are going to anyway, prepped or not. wink
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1560 is till popping off Cs upon it's exit. [link to lasp.colorado.edu]
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Cool pic, TS66. It's as if each of these spots has a personality, as if they are speaking to us in some way. A strange conversation in which we can't quite participate. I wonder if the sun has a consciousness. I know that's probably crazy talk. But I can't help but wonder.
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1560 is till popping off Cs upon it's exit. [link to lasp.colorado.edu]
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Cool pic, TS66. It's as if each of these spots has a personality, as if they are speaking to us in some way. A strange conversation in which we can't quite participate. I wonder if the sun has a consciousness. I know that's probably crazy talk. But I can't help but wonder.
 Quoting: parrotsandwhiskey


Inanimate it or not, conscience or not, it's telling us it's secrets, and we are just not capable of understanding.

There may come a day when we predict flares like a storm coming in ahead of a cold front. We just have to watch and learn.
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...


Maybe that wondering mini black hole and its awesome gravitational influence on the sun......secrets
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Whoa...ding! Bell went off, lol
 Quoting: whiteangel


Yah.... its the same mini black hole we sent a probe into 25 years ago ..... as it approached the event horizon it was able to send back images of our solar systems future..... thats why NASA has put out solar flare warnings for future dates.....

or maybe i forgot to take my meds today? scratching1dunno1
 Quoting: Gabriel


hmmmm you may be onto something here
maybe this would have something to do with why we see the solar warning for Sept 21 2012 NASA put out over a year ago?
we were all talking in here about this about a week ago
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Are there any links for the NASA stuff about the mini black hole?
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Yes re the sun is conscious.re the sun gives birth to the solar system.all ancient cultures as well as the bible speaks of this.
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Thursday, September 6, 2012
Fall Eclipse Season has Begun
Today was the beginning of the Fall 2012 eclipse season. This image in AIA 171 shows that the Earth covered about half of the Sun this morning at 0700 UTC.
With the SDO geosynchronous orbit comes an eclipse season twice each year. They last for several weeks; this will end on September 26 (just in time for our next maneuver).
The full article is here: [link to sdoisgo.blogspot.com]
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off subject but very interesting...
Photos and video of Krakatau ongoing eruption
Effusive activity on Krakatau
Posted September 6, 2012 at 9:00 PM
On 2nd September 2012, Krakatau resumed activity following an increase in seismic activity. Strombolian and Vulcanian explosions had occured during 2-3 September and lava had flowed 600m from the summit to the sea. The crater rim was reported to have been split in two parts. Explosive activity stopped during 4-5 September but the lava flows continued. Apparently, the lava flows have weakened since today.
[link to www.volcanoplanet.co.uk]
Play the videos in HD...WOW
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"It is midnight on 22 September 2012 and the skies above Manhattan are filled with a flickering curtain of colorful light. Few New Yorkers have seen the aurora this far south but their fascination is short-lived. Within a few seconds, electric bulbs dim and flicker, then become unusually bright for a fleeting moment. Then all the lights in the state go out. Within 90 seconds, the entire eastern half of the US is without power.

A year later and millions of Americans are dead and the nation's infrastructure lies in tatters. The World Bank declares America a developing nation. Europe, Scandinavia, China and Japan are also struggling to recover from the same fateful event - a violent storm, 150 million kilometers away on the surface of the sun."
 Quoting: Gabriel

This I am familiar with. That's from this [link to www.newscientist.com] (must pay for full article, only shows preview)

[link to www.armageddononline.org] (full text)

Which is based on this report "funded by NASA and issued by the US National Academy of Sciences (NAS)" [link to www.nap.edu] (downloadable for free)

I checked the report, no attempt to predict any dates of events. In fact the only mention of "2012" in the whole report is this:

"The DOD is striving to increase the sampling of the space weather environment for the coming solar maximum
(in 2011-2012)"


So basically what we have is NewScientist covering a report by NASA/NAS and in NewScientist's article they start off with a hypothetical story of a storm and pick an arbitrary date, which isn't based on anything in the research report. And people go to town with that.

This is why we need to be careful about spreading rumours. It takes a lot of work to debunk. All that said, it's good to be prepared in general, arbitrary specific dates notwithstanding! : )
 Quoting: madajs


NASA has made no such prediction. Someone posted a poop-filled bogus fact-less article a few days back; with no NASA citations nor heliophysicists named or quoted. Just the usual internet claptrap claims which didn't pass the smell test. I truly try to ignore all of this garbage, but somehow it takes on a life of its own (a la Comet Elenin). This report was total fiction.
Anyone who's been around this thread for more than a week knows that GLP Solar Watch is usually ahead of NASA, NOAA, and Spaceweather.com (let alone the mass media) when it comes to reporting Solar flares/events. I've even sent emails to freedland at Solarsoft pointing out errors and omissions on their site. It's not possible for NASA to predict a solar flare an hour from now, let alone months in advance. The idea is absolutely preposterous.

ALSO, NASA has never had a mission to a black hole, miniature or otherwise (or I would've heard about it). It is theorized that mini-black-holes are atom-sized and pass through the Earth daily. I haven't done enough research in this to know much more; however, I'm skeptical until more data comes my way.

[link to phys.org]

Please try to corroborate stories with more than one source and DON'T BELIEVE A WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE! hahahaha

Here's a rough guide to detecting B.S.:

[link to www.2012hoax.org]

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I hope people will continue to share solar underground research and alternative theories. I believe in quite a few alternative theories myself.

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We still have alot to learn about our solar system....
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Another misunderstood term tossed about these days is the "LOCAL FLUFF". What is it really?

The Local Fluff is a goofy nickname for the Local Interstellar Cloud (LIC) which lies within the larger Local Bubble. The "Fluff" is made up of a diffuse, highly- magnetized cloud of Hydrogen and Helium atoms.

What does this have to do with our Sun?

"The Solar System is thought to have entered the Local Interstellar Cloud at some time between 44,000 and 150,000 years ago and is expected to remain within it for another 10,000 to 20,000 years. The cloud has a temperature of about 6000 K,[2] about the same temperature as the surface of the Sun. It is not very dense, with 0.3 atoms per cubic centimeter; less dense than the average for the interstellar medium in the Milky Way (0.5 atoms/cm³)."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Whatever effect, if any, the local Fluff has on the Sun, it's been in effect for at least 44,000 years! No need to lose sleep over this, OK?

But can it affect the Earth?

"The Local Interstellar Cloud's potential effects on Earth are prevented by the solar wind and the Sun's magnetic field"
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You see, the Sun and Solar System lie within the Fluff Cloud but the Fluff itself is on the outside of the heliospheric bubble created by the Solar winds. Picture a scenario similar to the magnetosphere's bubble of protection from the Solar plasma streaming past Earth.

The real concern here will be in thousands of years when the Sun leaves the Local Fluff and may enter another cloud of denser, possibly more volatile material. But the Earth may not even be supportive of life by that time. Interesting stuff to ponder, but nothing to worry about.

local Fluff

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This seems like a lot of pretty big earthquakes, nothing on here is older than 15 hours.

[link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com]
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My final point of clarification this morning concerns the so-called "RIBBON". The "Ribbon" is a nickname given to an anomalous signature of Energetic Neutral Atoms (ENAs) detected near the interstellar boundary of the heliosphere. The detection was made by the IBEX spacecraft (in Earth orbit) while mapping the composition of the outer heliosphere where it encounters the interstellar/galactic winds (or Fluff) surrounding our Solar System.

IBEX ribbon

This ribbon is an energy signature, not a physical object. The findings took researchers by surprise and it's still pretty much a mystery. It may be related somehow to the intense magnetic fields within the Local Interstellar Cloud (Fluff). Adding to the puzzle, the energy signature (or ribbon, as they call it) has been observed to fluctuate over a short period of time.

Just to be clear, the "Ribbon" is not a "thing" or "object". It's just a name given to a data set projected onto a heliospheric map and indicative of an unexplained (so far) energy fluctuation at the interstellar boundary. It's not moving into the Solar system or flying around somewhere in outer space. Think of it as an AURORA sparking up around the outer bubble of the sun's heliosphere. It may in fact be something similar on a much bigger scale.

IBEX Mission:
[link to www.ibex.swri.edu]

IBEX Flux Ribbon Knot Unties:

[link to www.swri.org]

More on Interstellar Boundary Explorer (IBEX):
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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Hugh, all your information was very helpful this evening, as always and I come away WAY better informed than I was. Thank you for all the effort.hf
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Are u Sleepin?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Hugh, all your information was very helpful this evening, as always and I come away WAY better informed than I was. Thank you for all the effort.hf
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agreed!
But WTF? i return to a dead sun?

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People whats this ?
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SOLAR DOOM ON?
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People whats this ?
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looks like a CME...??? but in relation to what? i still havent caught up fully yet mate so forgive me....but doesnt appear to have been a flare? did something zoom past the sun to cause that??

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SOLAR DOOM ON?
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


Two 5+ EARTHQUAKES STRIKES CANADA



why?



i think it has to be the filament eruption we just saw


whats that?
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People whats this ?
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A CME.


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