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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Have no fear, NOAA is here, LOL!



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Just put out today ... interesting.
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As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ?
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How many? Help us out here Batman.
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As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ?
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I don't know how many were confirmed, but they did confirm a large one in the center of our Milkyway.
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Just found this on the 'Haarp is down thread'. I have not seen this one before and like it better than the other TEC graph, others may too.

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As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ?
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How many? Help us out here Batman.
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Dozens and they speculate thousands in our In ou galaxy....just loligaging about...... Have they admitted to finding primordial black holes?
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Just saw this and wanted to add it for some of the 'out of the box' discussions here



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THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

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Just saw this and wanted to add it for some of the 'out of the box' discussions here


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Aaahh. So our sun is the putty ...... What's the magnet?.....
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1564 is just a monster, I wonder if it will intensify while heading to Nin's Hot Spot ? Place yer bets!tounge
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It should have already,it developed days ago then stalled. It could have been a game changer spidey!
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Just saw this and wanted to add it for some of the 'out of the box' discussions here


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Aaahh. So our sun is the putty ...... What's the magnet?.....
 Quoting: Gabriel


....and what would be the hand? Interested to see what others say.....let's 'jam' trio

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More discussion on seeing the future.... Maybe why NASA can make some predictions on solar storm dates in the future??



Will an observer falling into a black hole be able to witness all future events in the universe outside the black hole?

The normal presentation of these gravitational time dilation effects can lead one to a mistaken conclusion. It is true that if an observer (A) is stationary near the event horizon of a black hole, and a second observer (B) is stationary at great distance from the event horizon, then B will see A's clock to be ticking slow, and A will see B's clock to be ticking fast. But if A falls down toward the event horizon (eventually crossing it) while B remains stationary, then what each sees is not as straight forward as the above situation suggests.
As B sees things: A falls toward the event horizon, photons from A take longer and longer to climb out of the "gravtiational well" leading to the apparent slowing down of A's clock as seen by B, and when A is at the horizon, any photon emitted by A's clock takes (formally) an infinite time to get out to B. Imagine that each person's clock emits one photon for each tick of the clock, to make it easy to think about. Thus, A appears to freeze, as seen by B, just as you say. However, A has crossed the event horizon! It is only an illusion (literally an "optical" illusion) that makes B think A never crosses the horizon.

As A sees things: A falls, and crosses the horizon (in perhaps a very short time). A sees B's clock emitting photons, but A is rushing away from B, and so never gets to collect more than a finite number of those photons before crossing the event horizon. (If you wish, you can think of this as due to a cancellation of the gravitational time dilation by a doppler effect --- due to the motion of A away from B). After crossing the event horizon, the photons coming in from above are not easily sorted out by origin, so A cannot figure out how B's clock continued to tick.

A finite number of photons were emitted by A before A crossed the horizon, and a finite number of photons were emitted by B (and collected by A) before A crossed the horizon.

You might ask What if A were to be lowered ever so slowly toward the event horizon? Yes, then the doppler effect would not come into play, UNTIL, at some practical limit, A got too close to the horizon and would not be able to keep from falling in. Then A would only see a finite total of photons form B (but now a larger number --- covering more of B's time). Of course, if A "hung on" long enough before actually falling in, then A might see the future course of the universe.

Bottom line: simply falling into a black hole won't give you a view of the entire future of the universe. Black holes can exist without being part of the final big crunch, and matter can fall into black holes.
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Hey Gabe!I was talking to a good friend of mine he's a bio-chemist with years of physics experience and I brought up some of your posts and he says you're dead on about the event horizon sequence and doesn't doubt one bit the experiment of guiding a satellite into a black hole.

He added that the 'singularity' at the centre of a black hole occurs as the distortion becomes infinite,and at this point the known laws of physics no longer apply, we are beyond them. If general relativity sheds some light on where time comes from, it doesn't tell us what time is, and Einsteins general relativity is not the final answer to this equation.Relativity offers us no description or explanation for the extreme phnomena of our cosmos. Even the theory of quantum gravity eludes us at this point.

I was very intrigued by your and his retorts,these are the type of discussions that get me 'going'. AWESOME STUFF!!!!applause2
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Thought that I would post this here also as I added it to Gabes site!

Good Stuff!

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As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ?
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How many? Help us out here Batman.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hello,One and All!

chorus

I hope everyone is Good : )

So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0.

Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : )

Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!?

Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity -


[link to www.youtube.com]

Just to play Devils Advocate.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Just saw this and wanted to add it for some of the 'out of the box' discussions here


 Quoting: Isis One


Aaahh. So our sun is the putty ...... What's the magnet?.....
 Quoting: Gabriel


The black holes?
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As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ?
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How many? Help us out here Batman.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hello,One and All!

chorus

I hope everyone is Good : )

So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0.

Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : )

Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!?

Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity -


[link to www.youtube.com]

Just to play Devils Advocate.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Is there not hard evidence that black holes exist?
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As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ?
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How many? Help us out here Batman.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hello,One and All!

chorus

I hope everyone is Good : )

So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0.

Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : )

Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!?

Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity -


[link to www.youtube.com]

Just to play Devils Advocate.
[/quote

Is there not hard evidence that black holes exist?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


yes. And you can find it on NASA website for those who only believe with links
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As of 2010, how many black holes has NASA officially confirmed being in our galaxy ?
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How many? Help us out here Batman.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hello,One and All!

chorus

I hope everyone is Good : )

So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0.

Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : )

Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!?

Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity -


[link to www.youtube.com]

Just to play Devils Advocate.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Is there not hard evidence that black holes exist?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


They are only hypothetical.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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How many? Help us out here Batman.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hello,One and All!

chorus

I hope everyone is Good : )

So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0.

Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : )

Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!?

Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity -


[link to www.youtube.com]

Just to play Devils Advocate.
[/quote

Is there not hard evidence that black holes exist?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


yes. And you can find it on NASA website for those who only believe with links
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


How would you define a Black Hole Gabe?
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Hello,One and All!

chorus

I hope everyone is Good : )

So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0.

Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : )

Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!?

Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity -


[link to www.youtube.com]

Just to play Devils Advocate.
[/quote

Is there not hard evidence that black holes exist?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


yes. And you can find it on NASA website for those who only believe with links
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


How would you define a Black Hole Gabe?
 Quoting: Gabriel

Is this a test?5a


A black hole itself can't be seen but you can see its effects.


How did I do? grinning
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yes. And you can find it on NASA website for those who only believe with links
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How would you define a Black Hole Gabe?
 Quoting: Gabriel

Is this a test?5a


A black hole itself can't be seen but you can see its effects.


How did I do? grinning
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Fine,if you want to toe the official line on 'Black Holes' : )

They say the Physics inside a Black Hole are completely different to those outside it yet it is claimed they Spin,Wander and Radiate energy back into the known Universe,ridiculous when you think about it!

It's claimed that we understand the 'Gravitational Pull' of a object that does'nt even have the same basic Physics as the 'known Universe' yet they cannot even get the convection timescale correct for our closest Star!?

Black Holes are just a cashcow that will pay for eternity because they will never see one or be able to explain how they are supposed to work.

They are Hypothetical Mathematic Objects and not Physical,Scientific reality,Imo.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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How would you define a Black Hole Gabe?
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Is this a test?5a


A black hole itself can't be seen but you can see its effects.


How did I do? grinning
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Fine,if you want to toe the official line on 'Black Holes' : )

They say the Physics inside a Black Hole are completely different to those outside it yet it is claimed they Spin,Wander and Radiate energy back into the known Universe,ridiculous when you think about it!

It's claimed that we understand the 'Gravitational Pull' of a object that does'nt even have the same basic Physics as the 'known Universe' yet they cannot even get the convection timescale correct for our closest Star!?

Black Holes are just a cashcow that will pay for eternity because they will never see one or be able to explain how they are supposed to work.

They are Hypothetical Mathematic Objects and not Physical,Scientific reality,Imo.
 Quoting: Gabriel


If u think about it, names such as "black hole" are given to observed events and very difficult to explain because they are nothing but an area of immense gravity effecting it's surroundings. If I said the sun is also a black hole How would you disprove it.

I probably just made no sense at all
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Is this a test?5a


A black hole itself can't be seen but you can see its effects.


How did I do? grinning
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Fine,if you want to toe the official line on 'Black Holes' : )

They say the Physics inside a Black Hole are completely different to those outside it yet it is claimed they Spin,Wander and Radiate energy back into the known Universe,ridiculous when you think about it!

It's claimed that we understand the 'Gravitational Pull' of a object that does'nt even have the same basic Physics as the 'known Universe' yet they cannot even get the convection timescale correct for our closest Star!?

Black Holes are just a cashcow that will pay for eternity because they will never see one or be able to explain how they are supposed to work.

They are Hypothetical Mathematic Objects and not Physical,Scientific reality,Imo.
 Quoting: Gabriel


If u think about it, names such as "black hole" are given to observed events and very difficult to explain because they are nothing but an area of immense gravity effecting it's surroundings. If I said the sun is also a black hole How would you disprove it.

I probably just made no sense at all
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


There can be no Gravity in a Black Hole.

Gravity is a term used to describe a action of objects in the known Universe that obey known Physical principles!

Did you watch the video Gabe?

If not,do.

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The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Relativity is used to describe how a Black Hole supposedly forms yet if they were to exist they would disprove Relativity to begin with.

The best example of evidence of a supposed Black Hole is the Jet being emmited from M87 yet the Jet itself as measured by Hubble is traveling at 6 times the Speed of Light!

What is wrong with this picture!?
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Fine,if you want to toe the official line on 'Black Holes' : )

They say the Physics inside a Black Hole are completely different to those outside it yet it is claimed they Spin,Wander and Radiate energy back into the known Universe,ridiculous when you think about it!

It's claimed that we understand the 'Gravitational Pull' of a object that does'nt even have the same basic Physics as the 'known Universe' yet they cannot even get the convection timescale correct for our closest Star!?

Black Holes are just a cashcow that will pay for eternity because they will never see one or be able to explain how they are supposed to work.

They are Hypothetical Mathematic Objects and not Physical,Scientific reality,Imo.
 Quoting: Gabriel


If u think about it, names such as "black hole" are given to observed events and very difficult to explain because they are nothing but an area of immense gravity effecting it's surroundings. If I said the sun is also a black hole How would you disprove it.

I probably just made no sense at all
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


There can be no Gravity in a Black Hole.

Gravity is a term used to describe a action of objects in the known Universe that obey known Physical principles!

Did you watch the video Gabe?

If not,do.
 Quoting: Gabriel


Yes I did. Found it humorous Reminds me of newton explaining gravity with the apple falling from the tree..... And the guy next to him says " gravity? I didn't see anything make that apple fall".
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Relativity is used to describe how a Black Hole supposedly forms yet if they were to exist they would disprove Relativity to begin with.

The best example of evidence of a supposed Black Hole is the Jet being emmited from M87 yet the Jet itself as measured by Hubble is traveling at 6 times the Speed of Light!

What is wrong with this picture!?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Don't let relativity keep you in a box Some things we are not meant to comprehend just yet....

If god can do anything, can he make a rock that even he cannot lift? Any answer contradicts the question.
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Enjoyed the chat sc... I've got go night night now ...big day tomorrow
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So you heard the part where it described that Black Holes Infinite Density yet Infinite Densities are not allowed for with the Theory used to describe them!?

Like the LHC,Imo Black Holes are for the advancement of getting paid forever without a answer being given that can ever stand the test of time : )

Peace and Respect to you Gabe,I am very,very tired,it's 04:08 here and I must Sleepsleeping

I enjoy your posts : )
The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Enjoyed the chat sc... I've got go night night now ...big day tomorrow
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Was just typing the same to you ^

Rest well and good luck with whatever it is you have to do Tomorrow!

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The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Relativity is used to describe how a Black Hole supposedly forms yet if they were to exist they would disprove Relativity to begin with.

The best example of evidence of a supposed Black Hole is the Jet being emmited from M87 yet the Jet itself as measured by Hubble is traveling at 6 times the Speed of Light!

What is wrong with this picture!?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Hey Cesium did you see my post about 10 back on the fact that relativity and quantum dynamics both cease to exist when exceptional cosmic phenomena are dealt with
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Doing some personal shit right now but watching when I can.
Just to keep yall in line :)
Peace, jeff
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Before I go to sleep - Two Filament eruptions,a small one in the region of 1562 and the other slightly larger one right above 1562 but on the limb,in NiNz Magic Corner [link to halpha.nso.edu]

Edit:Make that Three..the other just below 1564 at the same time.

Luv to you all!

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The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1

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