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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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I THINK THE VERY PREMISE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE TO PROVIDE BETTER LIVES FOR OUR CHILDREN NO LONGER MATTERS. I STRIVE EVRYDAY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF MY KIDS , APPARENTLY TO NO AVAIL! ONE DAY THIS PEACEFUL SOLDIER WILL HAVE ENOUGH AND TIME FOR THE BAYARD WILL ARRIVE!
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I want all to think on this as we enter important times!
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Sada, with much respect, this scenario has played out an infinite amount of times throughout history, the same as the Hebrews under the Egyptians, the Christians under the Romans, the surfs under the Monarchs, the slaves under the white man, the jewish people under Nazi Germany, the Iraqis under Suddam, etc etc., I am sure they felt the same as you do now. And that their end must truly be near. We have suffered nothing in comparison to these people, and all those that still do.

There is nothing new under the sun.

"Betterment" cannot be measured by status in life or by the money we make. No one can take it away nor prevent it's happening, we need no saving from our collective selves.

This is simply a learning process called life hf
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Agreed, an irrational rant after a long day. You are a nice grounding force TS, thanks!hf
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I THINK THE VERY PREMISE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE TO PROVIDE BETTER LIVES FOR OUR CHILDREN NO LONGER MATTERS. I STRIVE EVRYDAY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF MY KIDS , APPARENTLY TO NO AVAIL! ONE DAY THIS PEACEFUL SOLDIER WILL HAVE ENOUGH AND TIME FOR THE BAYARD WILL ARRIVE!
 Quoting: shadasonic


I want all to think on this as we enter important times!
 Quoting: shadasonic


Sada, with much respect, this scenario has played out an infinite amount of times throughout history, the same as the Hebrews under the Egyptians, the Christians under the Romans, the surfs under the Monarchs, the slaves under the white man, the jewish people under Nazi Germany, the Iraqis under Suddam, etc etc., I am sure they felt the same as you do now. And that their end must truly be near. We have suffered nothing in comparison to these people, and all those that still do.

There is nothing new under the sun.

"Betterment" cannot be measured by status in life or by the money we make. No one can take it away nor prevent it's happening, we need no saving from our collective selves.

This is simply a learning process called life hf
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Agreed, an irrational rant after a long day. You are a nice grounding force TS, thanks!hf
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Good, so that means I can count on you when I rant !!
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yes. And you can find it on NASA website for those who only believe with links
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I've certainly gotten the message that it was wrong of me to ask Gabe for a link yesterday. Amazing to me how all I did was say something didn't make sense and ask for a link. Not to be nasty or try to disprove anything but so I could read about what was said. I was very curious about it. I can't figure out why that was wrong of me. But evidently it was. And I believe my question for a link was taken entirely the wrong way. I am sorry if I offended Gabe or anyone else...truly. A lesson learned by me about the dynamics of this thread. My apologies to anyone I may have offended...sincerely. Crawling back into my lurker mode where it is safer. :-)
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Shenue... I am so sorry I made you feel this way.... I was posting while under a great deal of emotional stress from the days activities.... I am the one who should go back into lurker mode on this thread...

Look up scientist Jerry Fishman from NASA. They have posted q&a sessions with him on black holes.

He confirms at least dozens of bh,s in our galaxy Remember, you cannot see a black hole , only it's effects...
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Gabe please don't lurk. I have always enjoyed your posts...always...in here, in El Q's thread and your threads! There are many here that feel the very same way. It is my intention to apologize, NOT to turn you into a lurker. You have too much to add to this thread to do that!
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Ok now ... queue the sun !!!
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I want all to think on this as we enter important times!
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Sada, with much respect, this scenario has played out an infinite amount of times throughout history, the same as the Hebrews under the Egyptians, the Christians under the Romans, the surfs under the Monarchs, the slaves under the white man, the jewish people under Nazi Germany, the Iraqis under Suddam, etc etc., I am sure they felt the same as you do now. And that their end must truly be near. We have suffered nothing in comparison to these people, and all those that still do.

There is nothing new under the sun.

"Betterment" cannot be measured by status in life or by the money we make. No one can take it away nor prevent it's happening, we need no saving from our collective selves.

This is simply a learning process called life hf
 Quoting: TS66


Agreed, an irrational rant after a long day. You are a nice grounding force TS, thanks!hf
 Quoting: shadasonic


Good, so that means I can count on you when I rant !!
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I wonder what it looks like when you rant. Haven't seen it yet. Back to the Sun.hf
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What is this spike, pray tell.....

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
from the site:
[link to solarimg.org]
 Quoting: einsteinsfly



a cap of the Epam proton spike you mentioned:

[link to i1165.photobucket.com]


Epam electron spike

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

cap:
[link to s1165.photobucket.com]

and the SIS spike as well:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

cap:
[link to i1165.photobucket.com]
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Greetings sun folks!!

Hope all is well with y'all.

Been using these last coupla days for 'winterizing' my house and those inside. I have a feeling that this winter is gonna be a bit different than what we have become accustomed to.

I, once again, thank you all for the continued information presented and even when I cannot participate as much as I'd like, I follow every day.

Y'all kick arse!

Best.thread.ever!


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"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." -- Albert Einstein

"The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger
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I want all to think on this as we enter important times!
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Sada, with much respect, this scenario has played out an infinite amount of times throughout history, the same as the Hebrews under the Egyptians, the Christians under the Romans, the surfs under the Monarchs, the slaves under the white man, the jewish people under Nazi Germany, the Iraqis under Suddam, etc etc., I am sure they felt the same as you do now. And that their end must truly be near. We have suffered nothing in comparison to these people, and all those that still do.

There is nothing new under the sun.

"Betterment" cannot be measured by status in life or by the money we make. No one can take it away nor prevent it's happening, we need no saving from our collective selves.

This is simply a learning process called life hf
 Quoting: TS66


Agreed, an irrational rant after a long day. You are a nice grounding force TS, thanks!hf
 Quoting: shadasonic


Good, so that means I can count on you when I rant !!
 Quoting: TS66


For sure!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Ok now ... queue the sun !!!
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Bring on the sun,I'm ready for Solshow
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Although it won't be with us much longer, AR1562 has quickly grown to 340 millionths in size; dwarfing AR1564.

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 252 Issued at 0030Z on 08 Sep 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 07 Sep
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 07/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1560 N05W89 131 0010 Bxo 02 02 Beta
1562 S20W63 106 0340 Dho 09 06 Beta
1564 S13W28 071 0200 Esi 13 35 Beta
1565 N11W32 074 0010 Axx 02 03 Alpha
1566 N23E26 016 0070 Cao 01 02 Beta
1567 N17E56 347 0010 Bxo 02 02 Beta

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

If it puts out any decent flares they'll be well-connected to Earth's magnetic footprint. There's an Active Region Proximity Alert issued by iSWA:


[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
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Cool-proxmity alert- i have never seen this, thanks!
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Hello,One and All!

chorus

I hope everyone is Good : )

So,Q..you ask how many Black Holes exist or have been confirmed,I'd stick my neck out and say 0.

Well,that's according to the Nutty Professor Bill Gade : )

Universe = Singularity - Black Holes = Singularity - How can two 'Singularities' exist in one place!?

Here,listen to Bills' thoughts on this end of Relativity -


[link to www.youtube.com]

Just to play Devils Advocate.
[/quote

Is there not hard evidence that black holes exist?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


yes. And you can find it on NASA website for those who only believe with links
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


I've certainly gotten the message that it was wrong of me to ask Gabe for a link yesterday. Amazing to me how all I did was say something didn't make sense and ask for a link. Not to be nasty or try to disprove anything but so I could read about what was said. I was very curious about it. I can't figure out why that was wrong of me. But evidently it was. And I believe my question for a link was taken entirely the wrong way. I am sorry if I offended Gabe or anyone else...truly. A lesson learned by me about the dynamics of this thread. My apologies to anyone I may have offended...sincerely. Crawling back into my lurker mode where it is safer. :-)
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Oh, don't do that, thw written word sometimes comes out as terse, when it was not intended. People answer and type fast and cause a bit of confusion- don't take it personally. You are fine.hf
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What is this spike, pray tell.....

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
from the site:
[link to solarimg.org]
 Quoting: einsteinsfly



a cap of the Epam proton spike you mentioned:

[link to i1165.photobucket.com]


Epam electron spike

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

cap:
[link to s1165.photobucket.com]

and the SIS spike as well:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

cap:
[link to i1165.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: mistersplinter


was this spike from a farside or C event?
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And science changes again......
NASA’s Voyager 1 Spacecraft May Not Be Near Edge of Solar System after All [Updated] September 5, 2012
snip:
Decker and his colleagues conclude from the plasma measurements “that Voyager 1 is not at present close to the heliopause, at least in the form that it has been envisioned up to now.”
The article is here: [link to blogs.scientificamerican.com]
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1562 is huge but has only put out a C1.2 yesterday, I expected it to enlarge and pop off more flares as it heads for Nin's spot on the Eastern limb. Maybe tomorrow.
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And science changes again......
NASA’s Voyager 1 Spacecraft May Not Be Near Edge of Solar System after All [Updated] September 5, 2012
snip:
Decker and his colleagues conclude from the plasma measurements “that Voyager 1 is not at present close to the heliopause, at least in the form that it has been envisioned up to now.”
The article is here: [link to blogs.scientificamerican.com]
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thanks, great article.
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Nice M-flare going on now.

Last Edited by AkivaJeff on 09/08/2012 01:52 PM
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Nice M-flare going on now.
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I come to see if you guys were see it :)
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M1.4 from 1564?
[link to lasp.colorado.edu]

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Although it won't be with us much longer, AR1562 has quickly grown to 340 millionths in size; dwarfing AR1564.

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 252 Issued at 0030Z on 08 Sep 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 07 Sep
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 07/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1560 N05W89 131 0010 Bxo 02 02 Beta
1562 S20W63 106 0340 Dho 09 06 Beta
1564 S13W28 071 0200 Esi 13 35 Beta
1565 N11W32 074 0010 Axx 02 03 Alpha
1566 N23E26 016 0070 Cao 01 02 Beta
1567 N17E56 347 0010 Bxo 02 02 Beta

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

If it puts out any decent flares they'll be well-connected to Earth's magnetic footprint. There's an Active Region Proximity Alert issued by iSWA:


[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Cool-proxmity alert- i have never seen this, thanks!
 Quoting: SpiderJones


diddnt we just get some M's...
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certainly a busy area
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No sign of any CME from the M 1.4 yet. If there was one, it would definitely be geoeffective. However there was a big flare and CME on the far side about 12 hours ago from somewhere beyond the SW limb. This CME may be the x-ray source of the slow C2.8 flare very early today.

Farside eruption caught by STEREO Ahead EUVI:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SOHO C2 image of CME off the western limb:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Hiya all im lurking a bit :)

and greetings to allhi
[link to news.discovery.com]
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Hiya all im lurking a bit :)

and greetings to allhi
[link to news.discovery.com]
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Hey , Brother '76! It's great to see you here today.!!!! Maybe old Sol will favor us with a Sun-show today.

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Hiya all im lurking a bit :)

and greetings to allhi
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Hey , Brother '76! It's great to see you here today.!!!! Maybe old Sol will favor us with a Sun-show today.

5a:Angry Gigantor:cool2
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1rof1

lol nice image hugh :)


Yep, hehe looks like
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The M 1.4 flare was a one-two punch from both 1564 & 1562. Two nearly simultaneous eruptions can be seen in the Big Bear movie and the SDO close-up movie. Pretty cool.

Big Bear h-alpha movie:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

SDO/Solarsoft close-up movie:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 09/08/2012 04:35 PM
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I think this is of the farside cme:


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"The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger
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and the near side:


"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." -- Albert Einstein

"The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger
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and the near side:


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almost looks like hands reaching out there toward the end...
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Steady increase in cosmic rays across the board as well.

I'm not sure what this means, but there it is...

[link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu]

Moscow neutron monitor is on the rise as well:

[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." -- Albert Einstein

"The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger
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The M 1.4 flare was a one-two punch from both 1564 & 1562. Two nearly simultaneous eruptions can be seen in the Big Bear movie and the SDO close-up movie. Pretty cool.

Big Bear h-alpha movie:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

SDO/Solarsoft close-up movie:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


That solarsoft vid is awesome; a great representation of both flares.

rockon
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"The Upholder of the Cycles which supports the whole of Life, is water. In every drop of water dwells the Godhead, whom we all serve; there also dwells Life, the Soul of the "First" substance - Water - whose boundaries and banks are the capillaries that guide it and in which it circulates" -- Viktor Schauberger