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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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If heliosphere shrinks by a factor of ten (I know, hypothetical) I would think that would be like putting earth in a kiln, really cook us, however, the clay pot comes out better, the egg souffle....better, the human...????
 Quoting: Isis One


Actually, it would result in another ice age. The G Cloud isn't thought to be dense enough for a full-blown ice age to result; however, it would cool us down quite a bit and cause a general long-term decrease in solar activity.

[link to sci.esa.int]

[link to cosmoquest.org]

[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
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The grand kids and I watch day long SDO movies everyday, 2 & 4, they love to watch the "sun move" in their favorite color, (needless to say we watch a lot), and it has looked extremely active in regard to eruptive flares, filaments, and ejecta. Afterwards, I check GOES to match time stamps, and see little to nothing reflected on GOES.

I began noticing this around the 13th with the filament eruption in the north east quadrant.

Is it possible that it is beyond coincidence they have just begun utilizing, and calibrating GOES 14 ???



The Type II Radio Event was due to an eruption near the northeast limb which produced some ejecta also. It lit up the EVE x-ray image so it's puzzling to me that GOES didn't register a higher flux reading.

SDO 304a images:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Space Weather Message Code: WARSUD
Serial Number: 117
Issue Time: 2012 Sep 16 0409 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic Sudden Impulse expected
Valid From: 2012 Sep 16 0440 UTC
Valid To: 2012 Sep 16 0510 UTC
IP Shock Passage Observed: 2012 Sep 16 0350 UTC

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/NOAAscales
 Quoting: madajs


I almost forgot about that CME. I don't think we're getting much more than the IP shock ...so far, anyway. Is this from the 1564 limb eruption or from the other filament eruption?

ACE SWEPAM plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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PS I believe it's from the filament eruption on the 13th in the NE.
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Good morning all hf
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Good morning all hf
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Good morning TS,
So you're a gramma? I have 1 grandchild, Elijah. I'm 53 and still married 32 years to my "current" wife. How do I get her to put out this morning?
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Sorry guys and gals, I'm watching the news this morning and saw Susan Rice and Wesley Clark speak. I threw up in my mouth (a little). I'll do better just to lurk today. I love you all.
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Thanks to you all for sharing incredible information every day. This is one of my favorite threads, I lurk but try to read every post. Each of you does an extraordinary job of bringing information to the table and connecting the dots. Much gratitude from your biggest fan....
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Welcome to the Sun crew! Any questions they are always so helpful for us lurkers.

hf

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Wish I was smart enough to pose a question Trink! LOL. Its all fascinating and the sun crew adds to the Collective knowledge bank daily by exchanging thoughts and info. The team spirit on this thread makes it a great place to come and learn.
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Awe you will have questions eventually. ; )

Just post it here as everyone is very kind and they want us to learn. I know it is a lot of data to take in, however, it does eventually start to click, at least it did take awhile for me.

Well, I am glad you are here and don't be afraid to ask if a question comes up for you.

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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

*tap, tap, tap*

Is this thing on???

Best thread and best folks ever!!

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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

*tap, tap, tap*

Is this thing on???

rockon
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man down
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FINALLY, a website program which enables you to write your name (or anything else) in GALAXY shapes. Let ancient starlight be your ink....

[link to writing.galaxyzoo.org]

New Galaxy Zoo citizen science project has a fresh batch of galaxies for you to classify (I just wish they'd give me a dime for each one!)-

[link to www.galaxyzoo.org]
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with everything in the world that is going on, i am somewhat expecting a solar event
wont go into why, but many of you who research ancient texts would understand
lets please keep an eye on the eastern limb of the sun where we can see 2 rather large filaments
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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RBSP update:
Up and Running: Just Hours After Launch, RBSP Takes First Science Steps
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Additionally, the Radiation Belt Storm Probes Ion Composition Experiment (RBSPICE) instrument was turned on - though only with low voltage, just enough to power up the Engineering Radiation Monitor (ERM), which keeps track of the amount of radiation entering RBSP.
The first Saturday of the mission (Sept. 1) saw the first full powering-up of one of the many instruments on the spacecraft. At about 3 a.m. EDT, the Relativistic Electron Proton Telescope (REPT) instrument of the Energetic Particle, Composition, and Thermal Plasma Suite (ECT) aboard spacecraft A was turned on, and useable data began to immediately stream back to the REPT team. REPT-B was powered up 12 hours later.
The full article is here: [link to www.spacemart.com]
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If heliosphere shrinks by a factor of ten (I know, hypothetical) I would think that would be like putting earth in a kiln, really cook us, however, the clay pot comes out better, the egg souffle....better, the human...????
 Quoting: Isis One


not better than human but to BE Hue-man

see even Hugh M Eye name says it in cognito LOL
(Hue - man (m) I)



this thread is awesome
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with everything in the world that is going on, i am somewhat expecting a solar event
wont go into why, but many of you who research ancient texts would understand
lets please keep an eye on the eastern limb of the sun where we can see 2 rather large filaments
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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A smallish CME can be seen on STEREO Ahead, but I have no clue what the source is. Looks to be from the north and earth-side, most likely a small chunk of filament.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Some ripples in the solar wind too....ACE plots show an uptick in density and velocity with the Bz well north-

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES Magnetometer plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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If heliosphere shrinks by a factor of ten (I know, hypothetical) I would think that would be like putting earth in a kiln, really cook us, however, the clay pot comes out better, the egg souffle....better, the human...????
 Quoting: Isis One


Actually, it would result in another ice age. The G Cloud isn't thought to be dense enough for a full-blown ice age to result; however, it would cool us down quite a bit and cause a general long-term decrease in solar activity.

[link to sci.esa.int]

[link to cosmoquest.org]

[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


hmmmm, very interesting, thanks
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A smallish CME can be seen on STEREO Ahead, but I have no clue what the source is. Looks to be from the north and earth-side, most likely a small chunk of filament.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Some ripples in the solar wind too....ACE plots show an uptick in density and velocity with the Bz well north-

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES Magnetometer plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Looks like the CME that hit this morning fell short of the 15+ proton density forecasted on enlil.
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I wish I could interpret solarsofts "jargon" better.

At around 2300 UTC Sept 15 they write (in red):

"SurfsUp
AR 1566
Eruptive 89.6 (89.6 of what?)
Waves to Neighbors"

Lockheed martin has some kind of sense of humour...

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And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning: "That path leads ever down into stagnation."
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I wish I could interpret solarsofts "jargon" better.

At around 2300 UTC Sept 15 they write (in red):

"SurfsUp
AR 1566
Eruptive 89.6 (89.6 of what?)
Waves to Neighbors"

Lockheed martin has some kind of sense of humour...
 Quoting: madajs


Uh, that says B 9.6 and if you click on it you get the movie:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

I agree they have a wacky super-nerdy sense of humor. My favorite was "WTF?-Where's The Flares?"; which would be very appropriate for today, haha.
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I wish I could interpret solarsofts "jargon" better.

At around 2300 UTC Sept 15 they write (in red):

"SurfsUp
AR 1566
Eruptive 89.6 (89.6 of what?)
Waves to Neighbors"

Lockheed martin has some kind of sense of humour...
 Quoting: madajs


Uh, that says B 9.6 and if you click on it you get the movie:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

I agree they have a wacky super-nerdy sense of humor. My favorite was "WTF?-Where's The Flares?"; which would be very appropriate for today, haha.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

DOH

Thanks man
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with everything in the world that is going on, i am somewhat expecting a solar event
wont go into why, but many of you who research ancient texts would understand
lets please keep an eye on the eastern limb of the sun where we can see 2 rather large filaments
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Will do,gabe always said to trust you and your 'insight'
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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with everything in the world that is going on, i am somewhat expecting a solar event
wont go into why, but many of you who research ancient texts would understand
lets please keep an eye on the eastern limb of the sun where we can see 2 rather large filaments
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Will do,gabe always said to trust you and your 'insight'
 Quoting: shadasonic


I agree!
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That fat filament in the northwest which SC called a "caterpillar" has lifted off between 22:00z and 24:00z. We'll undoubtedly see a CME appear on SOHO soon.

Here's the Big Bear movie of filament liftoff:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

And here's the SDO images:

22:15z- [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

23:30z- [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

3-wave composite image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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There's a nice backside CME visible in the STEREO Ahead imagery which came before the current filament eruption.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

NASA ENLIL Cygnet of farside CME (the new one should be headed roughly toward Venus):

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

explosionfarside

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That fat filament in the northwest which SC called a "caterpillar" has lifted off between 22:00z and 24:00z. We'll undoubtedly see a CME appear on SOHO soon.

Here's the Big Bear movie of filament liftoff:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

And here's the SDO images:

22:15z- [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

23:30z- [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

3-wave composite image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Good catch, love big bear , there one minute gone the next.
That looks close to our connection line, but its up there,guess we'll have to see its dispersal signature.
Hard to keep up with you Hugh when you get rolling, put you and Cesium in a room and would get so much info my head would explode!LOL
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[link to www.lmsal.com]

This backside looks to show some promise
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This backside looks to show some promise
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Doesn't open -.-
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with everything in the world that is going on, i am somewhat expecting a solar event
wont go into why, but many of you who research ancient texts would understand
lets please keep an eye on the eastern limb of the sun where we can see 2 rather large filaments
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Will do,gabe always said to trust you and your 'insight'
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I agree!
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hf
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This backside looks to show some promise
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Doesn't open -.-
 Quoting: <+MarketSellOff+>


Thats very weird, i'll get the site link [link to www.lmsal.com]

Its stereo behind

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“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Just noticed they added a GRB today.

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
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This backside looks to show some promise
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Doesn't open -.-
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Thats very weird, i'll get the site link [link to www.lmsal.com]

Its stereo behind
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Worked. Thanks

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