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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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If heliosphere shrinks by a factor of ten (I know, hypothetical) I would think that would be like putting earth in a kiln, really cook us, however, the clay pot comes out better, the egg souffle....better, the human...????
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...


now can we apple this to say the solar face map of both stereo A,B and SDO.
where is the leading side.

that arrow comes through what part of the sun?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Well, you'd have to visualize that from an Earth-based POV and our speck of dust is also in motion at a 60 degree angle from the Galactic Plane. However, Altair is visible in the night sky as part of the "summer triangle" asterism; being roughly near opposition (opposite the Sun), would put the Earth somewhere ahead of the Sun's path through the Milky Way in summer and on the trailing path in winter.

I'm not sure if this helps or why you're curious, but I'm 99% certain this has no bearing on solar flares or CMEs. We've seen these erupt from everywhere- front, back, sides, north, south and center. The solar heliosphere pretty much shields us in its cocoon of solar winds. The Heliopause is some 113 A.U. away from the sun according to the Voyager data. When the solar winds are at low ebb is when we start to see a rise in Galactic Cosmic Rays from outside the heliosphere, but here on the ground we're very well-insulated for the most part.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


I see you answered my "where is the earth question" thanks, so we're part of the year in the g cloud, part of the year in the local cloud and part of the year almost out of the clouds completely? Just wondering if those positions affect the magnetosphere differently?
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No, the Sun hasn't entered the G cloud yet, but will in less than 5000 years time (maybe next week). The Sun seems to be in a void between the Local Interstellar Cloud (fluff) and is approaching the G Cloud. The earth is invisible in those charts, it would be smaller than a pixel--but it's close to the Sun (but you already know that). Here's what I found about potential effects the G Cloud may have on Earth-

"During the Sun's journey through the Galaxy it encounters a range of environments, and interstellar densities ranging from 10-5 to 105 atoms/cm3 are observed in our galactic neighborhood. Hydrodynamic simulations show that if the solar system were to enter a typical diffuse cloud with a density of 10 atoms/cm3, the size of the heliosphere would shrink by nearly a factor of ten, with significant effects on the interplanetary environment at 1 AU."

[link to interstellar.jpl.nasa.gov]

Very little and very sketchy info is available on this subject. There's much more speculation and guess-timates than actual hard data. That's why the Voyager and IBEX data are so important to our understanding.

More on the local interstellar neighborhood:

[link to interstellar.jpl.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Glad I looked into all this before you started looking.....
The conclusion I reached is, there is nothing we can do about it apart from spray the skies and use scalar tech to minimize the effects.

Its because of the super giants main sequence. Hence why there are so many supergiants along the galactic center!

This IS a terrible description of whats going on but im sure you can work it out!
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Space Weather Message Code: WARSUD
Serial Number: 117
Issue Time: 2012 Sep 16 0409 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic Sudden Impulse expected
Valid From: 2012 Sep 16 0440 UTC
Valid To: 2012 Sep 16 0510 UTC
IP Shock Passage Observed: 2012 Sep 16 0350 UTC

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/NOAAscales
 Quoting: madajs


I almost forgot about that CME. I don't think we're getting much more than the IP shock ...so far, anyway. Is this from the 1564 limb eruption or from the other filament eruption?

ACE SWEPAM plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

ENLIL geoeffective model of this CME

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

modelled to hit in around 10 hours

Last Edited by madajs on 09/16/2012 02:49 AM
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with solar events a bit quiet, and the world going batshit crazy, i wanted to look into the mayan nights and days
funny enough, i can find a TON of the timelines for the end date of OCt 28, 2011
but can not find any for the end date of Dec 21, 2012
so i put one together
i still have some to add to it, and would love to find someone to make a new timeline in their photoshop using the old oct 2011 one, but with the dec 2012 dates (like this one)
[link to infinitynow.files.wordpress.com]
or
[link to awakenvideo.org]

anyways, here is what i have so far

--------------------------------------------------

18 days/night each on the mayan universal level (9th wave), the last level
calculated for the end being on December 21, 2012

1st Day
Seeding
Ruled by: The god of fire and time
heaven 1
start- Thursday, April 19, 2012
end- Monday, May 7, 2012

1st Night
Ruled by: the god of the earth
heaven 2
start- Tuesday, May 8, 2012
end- Saturday, May 26, 2012

2nd Day
Germination
Ruled by: the goddess of water
heaven 3
start- Sunday, May 27, 2012
end- Thursday, June 14, 2012


2nd Night
Reaction
ruled by: the god of the sun and the warriors
heaven 4
start- Friday, June 15, 2012
end- Tuesday, July 3, 2012


3rd Day
Sprouting
Ruled by: the goddess of love and childbirth
ruled by: the god of death
heaven 5
start- Wednesday, July 4, 2012
end- Sunday, July 22, 2012

3rd Night
heaven 6
start- Monday, July 23, 2012
end- Friday, August 10, 2012

4th Day
Leaf Formation
Ruled by: the god of meize
heaven 7
start- Saturday, August 11, 2012
end- Wednesday, August 29, 2012

4th Night
ruled by: the god of rain and war
heaven 8
start- Thursday, August 30, 2012
end- Monday, September 17, 2012

(where we are right now)

5th Day
Budding
ruled by: the lord of light
heaven 9
start- Tuesday, September 18, 2012
end- Saturday, October 6, 2012

5th Night
Destruction
ruled by: the lord of darkness
heaven 10
start- Sunday, October 7, 2012
end- Thursday, October 25, 2012

6th Day
Flowering
ruled by: the goddess of birth
heaven 11
start- Friday, October 26, 2012
end- Tuesday, November 13, 2012


6th Night
Ruled by: the god before dawn
heaven 12
start- Wednesday, November 14, 2012
end- Sunday, December 2, 2012


7th Day
fruition
ruled by: the duel creator god
heaven 13
start- Monday, December 3, 2012
end- Friday, December 21, 2012

*you could also add 3 days to each date to get the dates for the time ending on Dec 24th 2012 (the end date that was told in the 1990's and prior)
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Nin, you kill me, LOL, thats a great retro-fit of the dates, thanks, lots to think about regarding ascension and what happened to that civilization of Mayans sitting eating dinner that night, long ago when they just......dematerialized?
 Quoting: Isis One


OK, thought of some other stuff. Since this calendar uses the metaphor of a plant, and that as above, so below, I'll throw out couple words that have been sitting in my brain for a few weeks now. Parenchyma, collenchyma, sclerenchyma chlorenchyma, as well as xylum and phloem.

These are biology/botany terms that I am intuitively putting together with the sun, and the calendar, not quite sure how yet. As I am writing this I am aware that there is a great need for scientists to share knowledge across fields (cross pollination) at this point for us to make any progress.
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If heliosphere shrinks by a factor of ten (I know, hypothetical) I would think that would be like putting earth in a kiln, really cook us, however, the clay pot comes out better, the egg souffle....better, the human...????
 Quoting: Isis One


Actually, it would result in another ice age. The G Cloud isn't thought to be dense enough for a full-blown ice age to result; however, it would cool us down quite a bit and cause a general long-term decrease in solar activity.

[link to sci.esa.int]

[link to cosmoquest.org]

[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
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The grand kids and I watch day long SDO movies everyday, 2 & 4, they love to watch the "sun move" in their favorite color, (needless to say we watch a lot), and it has looked extremely active in regard to eruptive flares, filaments, and ejecta. Afterwards, I check GOES to match time stamps, and see little to nothing reflected on GOES.

I began noticing this around the 13th with the filament eruption in the north east quadrant.

Is it possible that it is beyond coincidence they have just begun utilizing, and calibrating GOES 14 ???



The Type II Radio Event was due to an eruption near the northeast limb which produced some ejecta also. It lit up the EVE x-ray image so it's puzzling to me that GOES didn't register a higher flux reading.

SDO 304a images:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Space Weather Message Code: WARSUD
Serial Number: 117
Issue Time: 2012 Sep 16 0409 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic Sudden Impulse expected
Valid From: 2012 Sep 16 0440 UTC
Valid To: 2012 Sep 16 0510 UTC
IP Shock Passage Observed: 2012 Sep 16 0350 UTC

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/NOAAscales
 Quoting: madajs


I almost forgot about that CME. I don't think we're getting much more than the IP shock ...so far, anyway. Is this from the 1564 limb eruption or from the other filament eruption?

ACE SWEPAM plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


PS I believe it's from the filament eruption on the 13th in the NE.
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Good morning all hf
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Good morning all hf
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Good morning TS,
So you're a gramma? I have 1 grandchild, Elijah. I'm 53 and still married 32 years to my "current" wife. How do I get her to put out this morning?
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Sorry guys and gals, I'm watching the news this morning and saw Susan Rice and Wesley Clark speak. I threw up in my mouth (a little). I'll do better just to lurk today. I love you all.
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Thanks to you all for sharing incredible information every day. This is one of my favorite threads, I lurk but try to read every post. Each of you does an extraordinary job of bringing information to the table and connecting the dots. Much gratitude from your biggest fan....
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Welcome to the Sun crew! Any questions they are always so helpful for us lurkers.

hf

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Wish I was smart enough to pose a question Trink! LOL. Its all fascinating and the sun crew adds to the Collective knowledge bank daily by exchanging thoughts and info. The team spirit on this thread makes it a great place to come and learn.
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Awe you will have questions eventually. ; )

Just post it here as everyone is very kind and they want us to learn. I know it is a lot of data to take in, however, it does eventually start to click, at least it did take awhile for me.

Well, I am glad you are here and don't be afraid to ask if a question comes up for you.

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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

*tap, tap, tap*

Is this thing on???

Best thread and best folks ever!!

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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

*tap, tap, tap*

Is this thing on???

rockon
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man down
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FINALLY, a website program which enables you to write your name (or anything else) in GALAXY shapes. Let ancient starlight be your ink....

[link to writing.galaxyzoo.org]

New Galaxy Zoo citizen science project has a fresh batch of galaxies for you to classify (I just wish they'd give me a dime for each one!)-

[link to www.galaxyzoo.org]
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with everything in the world that is going on, i am somewhat expecting a solar event
wont go into why, but many of you who research ancient texts would understand
lets please keep an eye on the eastern limb of the sun where we can see 2 rather large filaments
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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RBSP update:
Up and Running: Just Hours After Launch, RBSP Takes First Science Steps
snip:
Additionally, the Radiation Belt Storm Probes Ion Composition Experiment (RBSPICE) instrument was turned on - though only with low voltage, just enough to power up the Engineering Radiation Monitor (ERM), which keeps track of the amount of radiation entering RBSP.
The first Saturday of the mission (Sept. 1) saw the first full powering-up of one of the many instruments on the spacecraft. At about 3 a.m. EDT, the Relativistic Electron Proton Telescope (REPT) instrument of the Energetic Particle, Composition, and Thermal Plasma Suite (ECT) aboard spacecraft A was turned on, and useable data began to immediately stream back to the REPT team. REPT-B was powered up 12 hours later.
The full article is here: [link to www.spacemart.com]
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If heliosphere shrinks by a factor of ten (I know, hypothetical) I would think that would be like putting earth in a kiln, really cook us, however, the clay pot comes out better, the egg souffle....better, the human...????
 Quoting: Isis One


not better than human but to BE Hue-man

see even Hugh M Eye name says it in cognito LOL
(Hue - man (m) I)



this thread is awesome
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with everything in the world that is going on, i am somewhat expecting a solar event
wont go into why, but many of you who research ancient texts would understand
lets please keep an eye on the eastern limb of the sun where we can see 2 rather large filaments
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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*****
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A smallish CME can be seen on STEREO Ahead, but I have no clue what the source is. Looks to be from the north and earth-side, most likely a small chunk of filament.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Some ripples in the solar wind too....ACE plots show an uptick in density and velocity with the Bz well north-

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES Magnetometer plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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If heliosphere shrinks by a factor of ten (I know, hypothetical) I would think that would be like putting earth in a kiln, really cook us, however, the clay pot comes out better, the egg souffle....better, the human...????
 Quoting: Isis One


Actually, it would result in another ice age. The G Cloud isn't thought to be dense enough for a full-blown ice age to result; however, it would cool us down quite a bit and cause a general long-term decrease in solar activity.

[link to sci.esa.int]

[link to cosmoquest.org]

[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


hmmmm, very interesting, thanks
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A smallish CME can be seen on STEREO Ahead, but I have no clue what the source is. Looks to be from the north and earth-side, most likely a small chunk of filament.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Some ripples in the solar wind too....ACE plots show an uptick in density and velocity with the Bz well north-

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

GOES Magnetometer plot:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Looks like the CME that hit this morning fell short of the 15+ proton density forecasted on enlil.
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I wish I could interpret solarsofts "jargon" better.

At around 2300 UTC Sept 15 they write (in red):

"SurfsUp
AR 1566
Eruptive 89.6 (89.6 of what?)
Waves to Neighbors"

Lockheed martin has some kind of sense of humour...

Last Edited by madajs on 09/16/2012 06:23 PM
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I wish I could interpret solarsofts "jargon" better.

At around 2300 UTC Sept 15 they write (in red):

"SurfsUp
AR 1566
Eruptive 89.6 (89.6 of what?)
Waves to Neighbors"

Lockheed martin has some kind of sense of humour...
 Quoting: madajs


Uh, that says B 9.6 and if you click on it you get the movie:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

I agree they have a wacky super-nerdy sense of humor. My favorite was "WTF?-Where's The Flares?"; which would be very appropriate for today, haha.
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I wish I could interpret solarsofts "jargon" better.

At around 2300 UTC Sept 15 they write (in red):

"SurfsUp
AR 1566
Eruptive 89.6 (89.6 of what?)
Waves to Neighbors"

Lockheed martin has some kind of sense of humour...
 Quoting: madajs


Uh, that says B 9.6 and if you click on it you get the movie:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

I agree they have a wacky super-nerdy sense of humor. My favorite was "WTF?-Where's The Flares?"; which would be very appropriate for today, haha.
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DOH

Thanks man
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with everything in the world that is going on, i am somewhat expecting a solar event
wont go into why, but many of you who research ancient texts would understand
lets please keep an eye on the eastern limb of the sun where we can see 2 rather large filaments
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Will do,gabe always said to trust you and your 'insight'
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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with everything in the world that is going on, i am somewhat expecting a solar event
wont go into why, but many of you who research ancient texts would understand
lets please keep an eye on the eastern limb of the sun where we can see 2 rather large filaments
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Will do,gabe always said to trust you and your 'insight'
 Quoting: shadasonic


I agree!
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That fat filament in the northwest which SC called a "caterpillar" has lifted off between 22:00z and 24:00z. We'll undoubtedly see a CME appear on SOHO soon.

Here's the Big Bear movie of filament liftoff:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

And here's the SDO images:

22:15z- [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

23:30z- [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

3-wave composite image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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There's a nice backside CME visible in the STEREO Ahead imagery which came before the current filament eruption.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

NASA ENLIL Cygnet of farside CME (the new one should be headed roughly toward Venus):

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

explosionfarside

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That fat filament in the northwest which SC called a "caterpillar" has lifted off between 22:00z and 24:00z. We'll undoubtedly see a CME appear on SOHO soon.

Here's the Big Bear movie of filament liftoff:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

And here's the SDO images:

22:15z- [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

23:30z- [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

3-wave composite image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Good catch, love big bear , there one minute gone the next.
That looks close to our connection line, but its up there,guess we'll have to see its dispersal signature.
Hard to keep up with you Hugh when you get rolling, put you and Cesium in a room and would get so much info my head would explode!LOL
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This backside looks to show some promise
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