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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Interesting how density goes up on the chart for the 22nd, with nothing visible? That 22nd date again?

Like Nin said a page back they give us 1 to 5% of their info. There has been nothing on the deterioration of ss earthside then going ballistic like 1564 has. This has happened time and time again, but I guarantee you they have an idea,its probably not good.The same reason they won't tell us why they've chemtrailed so hard today I literally can't see the sun, massive trails, its almost like you can feel it on you when you're out.It was supposed to be a completely clear day, how can people not see these things,or question them.@#$@%^&#@*(&%$#@@, now i've went and pissed myself off!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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I thought the proton count was high, but is possible it is only from large coronal hole.
 Quoting: SpiderJones


[link to www.spaceweather.com]

They are saying CH winds to hit the 22nd to the 23rd
 Quoting: shadasonic


I know, this is weird, what is the source???wtf
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The non numbered coronal hole, the triangle fella almost at nins corner(60degree line)
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chemtrails occur 2-3 days before solar activity is supposed to reach earth. I have watched and recorded this for over 6 months now and it is like clockwork
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I thought the proton count was high, but is possible it is only from large coronal hole.
 Quoting: SpiderJones


[link to www.spaceweather.com]

They are saying CH winds to hit the 22nd to the 23rd
 Quoting: shadasonic


I know, this is weird, what is the source???wtf
 Quoting: SpiderJones


The non numbered coronal hole, the triangle fella almost at nins corner(60degree line)
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yeah
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chemtrails occur 2-3 days before solar activity is supposed to reach earth. I have watched and recorded this for over 6 months now and it is like clockwork
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Well then the 22nd it is. Thanks for your input, i've noticed early trailing also plus right at flare release which I guess is usually 2 to 3 days before an incoming CME. I've seen some of your posts,I like your contributions!
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chemtrails occur 2-3 days before solar activity is supposed to reach earth. I have watched and recorded this for over 6 months now and it is like clockwork
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Well then the 22nd it is. Thanks for your input, i've noticed early trailing also plus right at flare release which I guess is usually 2 to 3 days before an incoming CME. I've seen some of your posts,I like your contributions!
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well thank you I appreciate it. I'm actually studying physics and astronomy which will lead me into helio-physics, so this kinda stuff really interests me.
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Back to work, going out to inhale some barium and Al+++. At lest its a beautiful day. Peace to all!

One other thought the shrinking of the magnetosphere could be in direct relation to the slow down of the geodynamo core,loss of electromagnetism......alright I'll say it pole flip.




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“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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chemtrails occur 2-3 days before solar activity is supposed to reach earth. I have watched and recorded this for over 6 months now and it is like clockwork
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Well then the 22nd it is. Thanks for your input, i've noticed early trailing also plus right at flare release which I guess is usually 2 to 3 days before an incoming CME. I've seen some of your posts,I like your contributions!
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I am in Des Moines, Iowa and I saw the chemtrails this morning myself. Wondered why. This explains it. Thanks.
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Personally, I think the sun isn't getting any brighter at all. Its the magnetosphere skrinking and fading away that is causing the sun to appear brighter. Just more sunlight reaching the surface IMO. The only thing that makes me wonder is, is the magnetosphere failing due to external forces, or is our quest to dominate the weather and the weather patterns actually causing a bottom up reaction that is fucking us all. The more and more I think about it, the more it seems that we really have fucked ourselves with technology that we are to primitive to truly understand.

I fully believe in 50 years we will understand how bad we have fucked our species up with all the frequencies we expose ourselves to on a daily basis. It will start with the increased brain tumors due to cell phones. But that will only be the beginning.
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Nin, (or anyone that can help) I am attempting to learn to distinguish sunspot's classifications.

I believe I have a pretty good understanding for instance, even though 1569 is classified simply as a Beta (bi-polar). Isn't it actually a Beta with a delta configuration ???

I'd just like a confirmation, or a reason why it wouldn't be (other than the commerce dept's say so) if possible. hf

Beta - bipolar
Delta - opposite polarity umbrae within 2 degrees in a single penumbra


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Hi TS, I think 2 Min news guy agrees with YOU. He often sees them one way while Nasa has it reported another way another way.
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The bible talks about the rivers running red and a third of the waters becoming bitter. We could easily make these things happen with slip ups in our technology, especially nuclear power. Maybe the whole 2012 enlightenment thing is nothing more than a big road sign saying were about to go off a cliff and we need to change that or face extermination like every other human culture. ( which i believe we have done this many many many times as a species ).

Is this the time where we finally break out of the cycle? Do we even want to break the cycle?
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[link to solarham.net]

bingo big CME and moving fast.
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Mars and Saturn I think, visible a couple degrees from the cresent moon just after sunset in North America yesterday and maybe today.
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I thought the proton count was high, but is possible it is only from large coronal hole.
 Quoting: SpiderJones


[link to www.spaceweather.com]

They are saying CH winds to hit the 22nd to the 23rd
 Quoting: shadasonic


I know, this is weird, what is the source???wtf
 Quoting: SpiderJones


The non numbered coronal hole, the triangle fella almost at nins corner(60degree line)
 Quoting: shadasonic


according to SWPC the only thing we have coming in is from the coronal hole winds

Issued at 2200Z on 19 Sep 2012
IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
expected to remain at quiet to unsettled levels for day one (20
September). An increase to quiet to unsettled levels with isolated
active intervals is expected for days two and three (21 - 22
September) as a coronal hole high speed stream moves into a
geoeffective position.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

also again lets not, they say:
Issued at 2200Z on 19 Sep 2012

IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 18/2100Z
to 19/2100Z: Solar activity was at low levels. New Region 1576
(S22E62) produced a few C-class flares, the largest a C2/Sf at
19/1512Z. Both Region 1576 and 1575 (N10E62) continue to rotate
onto the disk and appear to have beta magnetic characteristics. No
Earth-directed CMEs were detected during the period.
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I could have sworn that SOHO said that nothing is heading our way. This begs to disagree.
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Interesting how density goes up on the chart for the 22nd, with nothing visible? That 22nd date again?

Like Nin said a page back they give us 1 to 5% of their info. There has been nothing on the deterioration of ss earthside then going ballistic like 1564 has. This has happened time and time again, but I guarantee you they have an idea,its probably not good.The same reason they won't tell us why they've chemtrailed so hard today I literally can't see the sun, massive trails, its almost like you can feel it on you when you're out.It was supposed to be a completely clear day, how can people not see these things,or question them.@#$@%^&#@*(&%$#@@, now i've went and pissed myself off!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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Where are you?
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Right now 20 miles north of Rolla near Jefferson City Mo., started off in Columbia.
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Sorry I did not answer sooner- side-tracked. I was just wondering where they were hitting the sky so hard. I live in No. Ca. and hardly ever see chem trails.
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[link to www.spaceweather.com]

They are saying CH winds to hit the 22nd to the 23rd
 Quoting: shadasonic


I know, this is weird, what is the source???wtf
 Quoting: SpiderJones


The non numbered coronal hole, the triangle fella almost at nins corner(60degree line)
 Quoting: shadasonic


according to SWPC the only thing we have coming in is from the coronal hole winds

Issued at 2200Z on 19 Sep 2012
IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
expected to remain at quiet to unsettled levels for day one (20
September). An increase to quiet to unsettled levels with isolated
active intervals is expected for days two and three (21 - 22
September) as a coronal hole high speed stream moves into a
geoeffective position.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

also again lets not, they say:
Issued at 2200Z on 19 Sep 2012

IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 18/2100Z
to 19/2100Z: Solar activity was at low levels. New Region 1576
(S22E62) produced a few C-class flares, the largest a C2/Sf at
19/1512Z. Both Region 1576 and 1575 (N10E62) continue to rotate
onto the disk and appear to have beta magnetic characteristics. No
Earth-directed CMEs were detected during the period.
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Yes, very energetic coronal hole becoming more geoeffective, The proton count was close to 10 c/cm just a while ago, and I thought I may have missed a CME, but it is the hole blowing a hot wind at us!
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Back to work, going out to inhale some barium and Al+++. At lest its a beautiful day. Peace to all!

One other thought the shrinking of the magnetosphere could be in direct relation to the slow down of the geodynamo core,loss of electromagnetism......alright I'll say it pole flip.



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Lets say they are trailing this heavy for a medium size CH wind on the way, what are they going to do as the magsphere increasingly reduces and we start getting 'real' storms.
Maybe they are just trying to get us through this max, or they know something big is transpiring and are doing all they can for now. The poles are increasing speed big time, maybe we need a flip for our magnetism to recharge. It would be nice to have just a little more info, but we gotta dig it up ourselves. Its a good thing we have such a unique diverse group of intelligent people on this thread, KUDOS to you all and I'm out for awhile!headbang
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I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something.
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I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something.
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We had this conversation last night with no real idea.

So which coronal hole did you think it originated from ??? We already got a blast last night resulting in kp4 without it showing up on Enlil or any other source (except for a vague references), yet this hit is coming from a CH and it is shown on Enlil since at least the 17th ???

Something doesn't make sense.
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I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something.
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They show CH winds on the Enlil model?
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I'm always curious to when they do/don't spray us. I am outside of Dallas, and I just walked outside to look. Not a single cloud in the sky. Why do they choose some areas and not others? They frequently lay chemtrails around Dallas, but none today??

They decided to let us fry... burnit
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I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something.
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They show CH winds on the Enlil model?
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That's my question, I've never seen it before.
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I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something.
 Quoting: SpiderJones


They show CH winds on the Enlil model?
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That's my question, I've never seen it before.
 Quoting: TS66


either have i
does someone have any old enlil model links for when there was a CH earth facing?
i only seen CMEs on the enlil model before
but its not my fav model, so i could be wrong

here is a image i see on the 17th of a CME
earth off to the left
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

i will need to go through info and images a bit better here in a few when i have time to sit and look
busy time of the day here right now
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From the SDO blog site:
Wednesday, September 19, 2012
A "Jovial" Transit of Venus
If you lived on Jupiter you would be able to see a transit of Venus tomorrow. It might look something like the one we saw in June. Here is an example in SDO AIA 171, a time-lapse still of the black disk of Venus moving across the Sun. Even though the transit can't be seen from Earth, the Hubble Space Telescope may be able to see the small decrease in sunlight reflected off Jupiter toward Earth during the transit. SDO will help by telling the scientists how the Sun's brightness changes during the transit. Given how quiet the Sun has been of late, that should be pretty easy for us to do. Jupiter is ahead of the Earth in its orbit around the Sun, so the quiet side is rotating to face Jupiter, even as a new active region rotates into the view of the Earth.
First contact is at 0456 UTC, mid-transit is 0953 UTC and 4th contact is 1451 UTC (all September 20 UTC). That means the transit at Jupiter lasts almost 10 hours (compared to about 7.5 hours for the June 2012 Venus transit at Earth).
The full article is here: [link to sdoisgo.blogspot.com]
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I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something.
 Quoting: SpiderJones


They show CH winds on the Enlil model?
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That's my question, I've never seen it before.
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The model shows solar wind streams and CME's- this coronal hole is just very strong- and aimed at us more. I believe it's from the CH near the Solar equator. I HAVE been known to be wrong1rof1
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From the SDO blog site:
Wednesday, September 19, 2012
A "Jovial" Transit of Venus
If you lived on Jupiter you would be able to see a transit of Venus tomorrow. It might look something like the one we saw in June. Here is an example in SDO AIA 171, a time-lapse still of the black disk of Venus moving across the Sun. Even though the transit can't be seen from Earth, the Hubble Space Telescope may be able to see the small decrease in sunlight reflected off Jupiter toward Earth during the transit. SDO will help by telling the scientists how the Sun's brightness changes during the transit. Given how quiet the Sun has been of late, that should be pretty easy for us to do. Jupiter is ahead of the Earth in its orbit around the Sun, so the quiet side is rotating to face Jupiter, even as a new active region rotates into the view of the Earth.
First contact is at 0456 UTC, mid-transit is 0953 UTC and 4th contact is 1451 UTC (all September 20 UTC). That means the transit at Jupiter lasts almost 10 hours (compared to about 7.5 hours for the June 2012 Venus transit at Earth).
The full article is here: [link to sdoisgo.blogspot.com]
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Thanks!
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Top model shows density of solar output, bottom one shows speed, this model is usually right-on. It is easy to read which is why I like it.

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Are we still getting a constant hit from something at the moment???

For the last 2 days, the Northern lights have been over Iceland on the Katla webcam...Also, for the last 2 days, Iceland has been having a strong EQ swarm taking place..

[link to en.vedur.is]

Could they be linked??
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I don't know if it's CH536.... whatever it is set to hit us was already on it's way on the 17th according to Enlil.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


Yeah, what we have been talking about, it's just a very strong wind from a large coronal hole becoming increasingly geoeffective, had me going for a while trying to figure out if I missed something.
 Quoting: SpiderJones


They show CH winds on the Enlil model?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12844841


That's my question, I've never seen it before.
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Yeah, Enlil models the solar wind streams (the spirals you can see imaged). You can see on the model how the spiral hitting us on the 22nd is far more dense than usual. Thus the spike in forecasted readings for that time.

Also, the catch-all Enlil model is currently displaying one of those far side CME's. Looks pretty fast. [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
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