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| shenue User ID: 5263313 09/24/2012 09:07 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning everyone! Well, if the sun doesn't belch out a huge CME at us and knock the grid down, if a Gamma Ray bursts doesn't fry us, if an earthquake doesn't cause the earth to swallow us, if a tsunami doesn't drown us, if the evil ETs don't abduct us, if WWIII doesn't start...etc. etc. etc., it will be a good day. No wonder I've developed an ulcer...eh? lol I need to take a page out of 66's book and stop worrying about everything so much and enjoy each day for what it is while continuing to learn all I can here. At least, I believe it was 66 that had mentioned her father's property on the side of a mountain. Hubby and I are prepared and continuing to prepare, as best we can, for events that may come our way, but I wish I could learn not to worry so darn much about all of it every single day. I have often thought that at my age, it would be nice to be able to simply relax and enjoy life but with all that goes on around us in the world, I've not been able to master that behavior yet. Anyway, a very sincere good morning to everyone and my wish is for you all to have a very good day/night. Watch your thoughts, they become your words. Watch your words, they become your actions. Watch your actions, they become your habits. Watch your habits, they become your character. Watch your character, it becomes your destiny. |
| TS66 User ID: 24266114 09/24/2012 09:26 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning everyone! Well, if the sun doesn't belch out a huge CME at us and knock the grid down, if a Gamma Ray bursts doesn't fry us, if an earthquake doesn't cause the earth to swallow us, if a tsunami doesn't drown us, if the evil ETs don't abduct us, if WWIII doesn't start...etc. etc. etc., it will be a good day. No wonder I've developed an ulcer...eh? lol I need to take a page out of 66's book and stop worrying about everything so much and enjoy each day for what it is while continuing to learn all I can here. At least, I believe it was 66 that had mentioned her father's property on the side of a mountain. Hubby and I are prepared and continuing to prepare, as best we can, for events that may come our way, but I wish I could learn not to worry so darn much about all of it every single day. I have often thought that at my age, it would be nice to be able to simply relax and enjoy life but with all that goes on around us in the world, I've not been able to master that behavior yet. Quoting: shenue Anyway, a very sincere good morning to everyone and my wish is for you all to have a very good day/night. GOOD Morning Shenue :1FOTU1: Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it ~ Andre Gide |
| MamaHasAwakened User ID: 5426767 09/24/2012 09:39 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning everyone! Well, if the sun doesn't belch out a huge CME at us and knock the grid down, if a Gamma Ray bursts doesn't fry us, if an earthquake doesn't cause the earth to swallow us, if a tsunami doesn't drown us, if the evil ETs don't abduct us, if WWIII doesn't start...etc. etc. etc., it will be a good day. No wonder I've developed an ulcer...eh? lol I need to take a page out of 66's book and stop worrying about everything so much and enjoy each day for what it is while continuing to learn all I can here. At least, I believe it was 66 that had mentioned her father's property on the side of a mountain. Hubby and I are prepared and continuing to prepare, as best we can, for events that may come our way, but I wish I could learn not to worry so darn much about all of it every single day. I have often thought that at my age, it would be nice to be able to simply relax and enjoy life but with all that goes on around us in the world, I've not been able to master that behavior yet. Quoting: shenue Anyway, a very sincere good morning to everyone and my wish is for you all to have a very good day/night. GOOD Morning Shenue :1FOTU1: Good Morning Everyone! TS, I love it! |
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| shenue User ID: 5263313 09/24/2012 09:54 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning everyone! Well, if the sun doesn't belch out a huge CME at us and knock the grid down, if a Gamma Ray bursts doesn't fry us, if an earthquake doesn't cause the earth to swallow us, if a tsunami doesn't drown us, if the evil ETs don't abduct us, if WWIII doesn't start...etc. etc. etc., it will be a good day. No wonder I've developed an ulcer...eh? lol I need to take a page out of 66's book and stop worrying about everything so much and enjoy each day for what it is while continuing to learn all I can here. At least, I believe it was 66 that had mentioned her father's property on the side of a mountain. Hubby and I are prepared and continuing to prepare, as best we can, for events that may come our way, but I wish I could learn not to worry so darn much about all of it every single day. I have often thought that at my age, it would be nice to be able to simply relax and enjoy life but with all that goes on around us in the world, I've not been able to master that behavior yet. Quoting: shenue Anyway, a very sincere good morning to everyone and my wish is for you all to have a very good day/night. GOOD Morning Shenue :1FOTU1: I will try. :-) Watch your thoughts, they become your words. Watch your words, they become your actions. Watch your actions, they become your habits. Watch your habits, they become your character. Watch your character, it becomes your destiny. |
| optimum judgment User ID: 24021617 09/24/2012 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For all the 'Galactic Plainers' - You can tell from this image [link to www.nasa.gov] that we are not about to cross the GP,you can clearly see that the Sun is at least a good Inch below the ecliptic,and that is from NASA. Quoting: Spittin'Cesium Can this imagery be trusted, especially in the wake of the edited Mars photo being released? no you need a third point of reference for the angle of the image to know if its lined up or not,plus this was from when? we don't even align yet do we? |
| Waterbug User ID: 1295673 09/24/2012 10:36 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Considering the actuality of our system and the universe being in constant flux, I think 'realm of influence by unknown factors' is more pertinent here than 'alignment'. So many variables exist, here on earth, as well as in the solar system and our transient passage through the unknown, that I think people may become erroneously fixated on the galactic alignment as a facile catch-all for anomalies that we are experiencing. Not saying it is not a factor.. merely that we should not allow ourselves to be blinded by assumptions. |
| SpiderJones User ID: 1540313 09/24/2012 11:04 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: whiteeaglefeather 14801310 I have been keeping my eyes on these, as they can induce seismic activity. What I like to explain to folks is that they are point specific. There are many sensors spread through out the world. Cosmic rays can strike certain regions depending on where in space they are traveling from. Where ever the spike is then that is where in space they are coming from. They can effect both night and day sides. That is why you will see a spike in one region and complete flat line in all others. Seismic prone areas can be triggered by these ground reaching cosmic rays. I have to disagree w/you on this, gamma ray events are hard to detect because such small amts reach our instraments orbiting earth- GRB's are most often EXTRA galactic, and are not close enough to the Earth to affect us in any way- and certainly not enough to influence plate tectonics! Here are two articles that explain GRB's- they are not to be feared unless they come from our own Sun in massive amts.Or from a very close star. [link to astro.berkeley.edu] [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] Last Edited by SpiderJones on 09/24/2012 12:13 PM watching and waiting patiently... |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 22914370 09/24/2012 11:05 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The minute you minimize shared info is the minute YOU have lost out. Good night all Get good rest I disagree. The minute you let garbage, fear-mongering pseudo-science go out to thousands of people (some of whom are looking for REAL info) unchallenged. WE ALL LOSE. I feel a duty to the lurkers, youngsters and others to at least point out unscientific nonsense if not make a point by point counter-argument. Unfortunately, I no longer have the time and energy to debunk and correct all the disinfo/misinfo on YouTube; that's a full-time job for zero pay. Although every other sentence on that video is a logical fallacy, I'll just make two points here- 1) The 1st quarter moon was in Sagittarius last night. Sagittarius A (galactic center) is in the constellation Sagittarius (duh!). So any heavenly body which move through Sagittarius is roughly in "galactic alignment". This includes all of the planets at some point, the Sun (once a year), and many comets, asteroids, etc. as well as the moon. It's no big deal....happens all the time....no earthquakes or any other doom is caused by this. 2) He claims some significance to an occultation of Sirius "from the Moon's perspective". Who cares? How many folks are living on the moon? There's an alignment of something to something everywhere and always. It is classic pseudo-pscience. The problem is unemployment. People have so much time on their hands to make fancy videos about nothing at all. Besides that we have a growth industry in professional pseudo-psyence. Lots of folks competing on YouTube to be the next Richard C. Hoagland (Elenin was a piloted vehicle) or top magic crystal salesman. I'm not into censorship (except self-censorship), but until I'm forever banned I will point out crapola when I see it. I'd like to see this return to being a sanctuary for solar science and a refuge from the Page 1 crazies. ![]() Hugh I have to say, I have waited a couple of days to respond to this without being angry. You are a very intelligent individual, and have much to offer to this thread, but I take great offense to the fact that you feel you have a right to degrade a contributor to this thread as being a "page 1 crazy" pushing "fear-mongering pseudo-science". I take even more offense when it is directed toward the OP of this thread, who has made it clear herself that all should feel welcome here, on her thread. All she asks is that if you skip over anything you find nonsensical, or otherwise, and continue on your with whatever you feel pertinent. You may find it purely your mission to "debunk", I'm here purely to learn, anything and everything, and that means open to the possibilities, from all viewpoints. That is why this thread is still here, Nin has made this a welcoming environment for all. However, name calling, and condescending remarks have never been tolerated, and should be called on. I had considered writing you a private message, but since you felt it appropriate to call out the OP on her own thread , I assumed you would respect the same response. And again, I'm not insulting your intelligence, and wouldn't anymore you than anyone else here, just your ill-mannered and unnecessary response to a post you could have just as easily ignored if you were so inclined. Good morning Suncrew You obviously misunderstand English....I never put down NINzrez, I was merely pointing out the Video-maker's B.S. If I post incorrect info, exaggerated hyperbole, or UFO cult propaganda; I hope and expect that YOU, NIN, and others would call me on it. So many ridiculous claims are made here without any evidence offered that it drives me crazy. Somebody here better step up and apply some sober-minded perspective. I notice Tomasgod and IWTB (who are nearly always on topic) have been keeping their distance lately. I'm beginning to feel like McMurphy in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest. Let's drop this infighting and I'll try my best to ignore the abundance of YouTube pseudoscientists who hoodwink the masses with baloney. Maybe I'll just remind everyone of the GLP Dislaimer- DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN THING YOU SEE ON THIS WEBSITE! ![]() "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| SpiderJones User ID: 1540313 09/24/2012 11:09 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For all the 'Galactic Plainers' - You can tell from this image [link to www.nasa.gov] that we are not about to cross the GP,you can clearly see that the Sun is at least a good Inch below the ecliptic,and that is from NASA. Quoting: Spittin'Cesium Can this imagery be trusted, especially in the wake of the edited Mars photo being released? no you need a third point of reference for the angle of the image to know if its lined up or not,plus this was from when? we don't even align yet do we? Yes, exactly so. Alignment is from a point of view in space, and galactic center is massively huge, where is the center? watching and waiting patiently... |
| SpiderJones User ID: 1540313 09/24/2012 11:13 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TS66 The minute you minimize shared info is the minute YOU have lost out. Good night all Get good rest I disagree. The minute you let garbage, fear-mongering pseudo-science go out to thousands of people (some of whom are looking for REAL info) unchallenged. WE ALL LOSE. I feel a duty to the lurkers, youngsters and others to at least point out unscientific nonsense if not make a point by point counter-argument. Unfortunately, I no longer have the time and energy to debunk and correct all the disinfo/misinfo on YouTube; that's a full-time job for zero pay. Although every other sentence on that video is a logical fallacy, I'll just make two points here- 1) The 1st quarter moon was in Sagittarius last night. Sagittarius A (galactic center) is in the constellation Sagittarius (duh!). So any heavenly body which move through Sagittarius is roughly in "galactic alignment". This includes all of the planets at some point, the Sun (once a year), and many comets, asteroids, etc. as well as the moon. It's no big deal....happens all the time....no earthquakes or any other doom is caused by this. 2) He claims some significance to an occultation of Sirius "from the Moon's perspective". Who cares? How many folks are living on the moon? There's an alignment of something to something everywhere and always. It is classic pseudo-pscience. The problem is unemployment. People have so much time on their hands to make fancy videos about nothing at all. Besides that we have a growth industry in professional pseudo-psyence. Lots of folks competing on YouTube to be the next Richard C. Hoagland (Elenin was a piloted vehicle) or top magic crystal salesman. I'm not into censorship (except self-censorship), but until I'm forever banned I will point out crapola when I see it. I'd like to see this return to being a sanctuary for solar science and a refuge from the Page 1 crazies. ![]() Hugh I have to say, I have waited a couple of days to respond to this without being angry. You are a very intelligent individual, and have much t I take even more offense when it is directed toward the OP of this thread, who has made it clear herself that all should feel welcome here, on her thread. All she asks is that if you skip over anything you find nonsensical, or otherwise, and continue on your with whatever you feel pertinent. You may find it purely your mission to "debunk", I'm here purely to learn, anything and everything, and that means open to the possibilities, from all viewpoints. That is why this thread is still here, Nin has made this a welcoming environment for all. However, name calling, and condescending remarks have never been tolerated, and should be called on. I had considered writing you a private message, but since you felt it appropriate to call out the OP on her own thread , I assumed you would respect the same response. And again, I'm not insulting your intelligence, and wouldn't anymore you than anyone else here, just your ill-mannered and unnecessary response to a post you could have just as easily ignored if you were so inclined. Good morning Suncrew You obviously misunderstand English....I never put down NINzrez, I was merely pointing out the Video-maker's B.S. If I post incorrect info, exa Let's drop this infighting and I'll try my best to ignore the abundance of YouTube pseudoscientists who hoodwink the masses with baloney. Maybe I'll just remind everyone of the GLP Dislaimer- DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN THING YOU SEE ON THIS WEBSITE! ![]() I was also comenting on the video- not on Nin- I have the greatest respect for Nin. But I think nonsense should be called out- and that film was non Last post was from me, I don't know how it got attributed to Hugh Last Edited by SpiderJones on 09/24/2012 11:17 AM watching and waiting patiently... |
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| SpiderJones User ID: 1540313 09/24/2012 11:22 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been keeping my eyes on these, as they can induce seismic activity. What I like to explain to folks is that they are point specific. There are many sensors spread through out the world. Cosmic rays can strike certain regions depending on where in space they are traveling from. Where ever the spike is then that is where in space they are coming from. They can effect both night and day sides. That is why you will see a spike in one region and complete flat line in all others. Seismic prone areas can be triggered by these ground reaching cosmic rays. I have to disagree w/you on this, gamma ray events are hard to detect because such small amts reach our instraments orbiting earth- GRB's are most often EXTRA galactic, and are not close enough to the Earth to affect us in any way- and certainly not enough to influence plate tectonics! Here are two articles that explain GRB's- they are not to be feared unless they come from our own Sun in massive amts. edit ; OR from a very close star. [link to astro.berkeley.edu] [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] Here is another nonsensical item; that gamma ray bursts could cause earthquakes! If you do a little research on GRB's, you will see why this is incorrect. Last Edited by SpiderJones on 09/24/2012 11:46 AM watching and waiting patiently... |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 22914370 09/24/2012 12:14 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been keeping my eyes on these, as they can induce seismic activity. What I like to explain to folks is that they are point specific. There are many sensors spread through out the world. Cosmic rays can strike certain regions depending on where in space they are traveling from. Where ever the spike is then that is where in space they are coming from. They can effect both night and day sides. That is why you will see a spike in one region and complete flat line in all others. Seismic prone areas can be triggered by these ground reaching cosmic rays. I have to disagree w/you on this, gamma ray events are hard to detect because such small amts reach our instraments orbiting earth- GRB's are most often EXTRA galactic, and are not close enough to the Earth to affect us in any way- and certainly not enough to influence plate tectonics! Here are two articles that explain GRB's- they are not to be feared unless they come from our own Sun in massive amts. edit ; OR from a very close star. [link to astro.berkeley.edu] [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] Here is another nonsensical item; that gamma ray bursts could cause earthquakes! If you do a little research on GRB's, you will see why this is incorrect. I wholeheartedly agree. Claims like these need to be backed up with some sort of evidence or at least a theory. Very large GRBs have been observed to affect the ionosphere on rare occasions, however. Article here about a 2004 event: [link to news.stanford.edu] GRBs are detected only from space, not from Earthbound neutron detectors: "5. How are gamma-ray bursts detected? Gamma-ray bursts are detected by satellites orbiting the Earth and travelling through the Solar system. They can only be detected from space because the Earth's atmosphere absorbs gamma-rays and we therefore cannot observe them from the ground. The first gamma-ray bursts were detected by the Vela satellites, which were launched in the 1960s to ensure compliance with the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. Since then several thousand gamma ray bursts have been detected by satellites such as the Compton Gamma Ray Observatory (CGRO) and the Interplanetary Network (IPN). Gamma Ray Bursts FAQ: [link to users.obs.carnegiescience.edu] As far as earthquakes go, I can't find anything to connect the two (outside of GLP). I did find a Russian science paper about earthquakes and increased neutron flux readings. If I understand the hi-falootin' scientific gobbledygook correctly, the Russian team investigated increased neutron levels CAUSED by seismic activity (this is the opposite of what El Q implied). Again, if I understand this paper correctly, it seems the investigation found no predictable linkage. These reports give me a migraine, so if I'm incorrect on this interpretation please post a correction. Russian paper pdf here: [link to www.srl.utu.fi] "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| SpiderJones User ID: 1540313 09/24/2012 12:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | small C flare just a few min. ago. [link to www.solarham.net] Last Edited by SpiderJones on 09/24/2012 12:16 PM watching and waiting patiently... |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 22914370 09/24/2012 12:21 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last C 1.6 flare from from a new un-numbere active region forming to the north of AR1577. I can see at least 3 new sunspot regions on the eastern limb. It looks like the NOAA "numbers guy" has his work cut out for him today, haha. Latest HMI Intensitygram Hi-Resolution gif image: [link to jsoc.stanford.edu] "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| El Quisqueyano User ID: 23937718 09/24/2012 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been keeping my eyes on these, as they can induce seismic activity. What I like to explain to folks is that they are point specific. There are many sensors spread through out the world. Cosmic rays can strike certain regions depending on where in space they are traveling from. Where ever the spike is then that is where in space they are coming from. They can effect both night and day sides. That is why you will see a spike in one region and complete flat line in all others. Seismic prone areas can be triggered by these ground reaching cosmic rays. I have to disagree w/you on this, gamma ray events are hard to detect because such small amts reach our instraments orbiting earth- GRB's are most often EXTRA galactic, and are not close enough to the Earth to affect us in any way- and certainly not enough to influence plate tectonics! Here are two articles that explain GRB's- they are not to be feared unless they come from our own Sun in massive amts. edit ; OR from a very close star. [link to astro.berkeley.edu] [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] Here is another nonsensical item; that gamma ray bursts could cause earthquakes! If you do a little research on GRB's, you will see why this is incorrect. The effect of Gravity Waves on the Earth In his 1983 Ph.D. dissertation, Paul LaViolette called attention to terrestrial dangers of Galactic core explosions, pointing out that the arrival of the cosmic ray superwave they produced would be signaled by a high intensity gamma ray burst which would also generate a strong gravity wave that might be expected to travel forward at the forefront of this superwave and might be the first indication of a superwave's arrival. He pointed out that such gravity waves could induce substantial tidal forces on the Earth during their passage which could induce earthquakes and cause polar axis torquing effects. If a gravity wave can distort the space between matter, even on a small scale, the cumulative effect of the earth's core, with its dense mass, and the mantle could result in movement of the crust. The result would be an earthquake. [link to viewzone2.com] Not circumstantial evidence but a theory none the less. By a highly respected Physicist. Here is your theory Hugh. Last Edited by El Quisqueyano on 09/24/2012 12:30 PM [link to skreened.com] The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!" Ezekiel 25:17 "Worst come to worst, my peoples come FIRST" Dilated Peoples |
| SpiderJones User ID: 1540313 09/24/2012 12:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: El Quisqueyano I have been keeping my eyes on these, as they can induce seismic activity. What I like to explain to folks is that they are point specific. There are many sensors spread through out the world. Cosmic rays can strike certain regions depending on where in space they are traveling from. Where ever the spike is then that is where in space they are coming from. They can effect both night and day sides. That is why you will see a spike in one region and complete flat line in all others. Seismic prone areas can be triggered by these ground reaching cosmic rays. I have to disagree w/you on this, gamma ray events are hard to detect because such small amts reach our instraments orbiting earth- GRB's are most often EXTRA galactic, and are not close enough to the Earth to affect us in any way- and certainly not enough to influence plate tectonics! Here are two articles that explain GRB's- they are not to be feared unless they come from our own Sun in massive amts. edit ; OR from a very close star. [link to astro.berkeley.edu] [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] Here is another nonsensical item; that gamma ray bursts could cause earthquakes! If you do a little research on GRB's, you will see why this is incorrect. The effect of Gravity Waves on the Earth In his 1983 Ph.D. dissertation, Paul LaViolette called attention to terrestrial dangers of Galactic core explosions, pointing out that the arrival of the cosmic ray superwave they produced would be signaled by a high intensity gamma ray burst which would also generate a strong gravity wave that might be expected to travel forward at the forefront of this superwave and might be the first indication of a superwave's arrival. He pointed out that such gravity waves could induce substantial tidal forces on the Earth during their passage which could induce earthquakes and cause polar axis torquing effects. If a gravity wave can distort the space between matter, even on a small scale, the cumulative effect of the earth's core, with its dense mass, and the mantle could result in movement of the crust. The result would be an earthquake. [link to viewzone2.com] Not circumstantial evidence but a theory none the less. By a highly respected Physicist. Here is your theory Hugh. Sorry to disagree w/you again Q- but La Violette is only highly respected on the fringe- his theories are WAY OUT there on the fringe. edit: add this article: [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] add link: [link to sci.esa.int] Nasa is preparing to look for gravitational waves, well shut my everlasting gobbstopper! They want to prove the theory of relativity in the WORST way!!! I will have a bone to pick w/ relativity UNTIL they find "gravitational waves". I hope I live that long. Last Edited by SpiderJones on 09/24/2012 01:43 PM watching and waiting patiently... |
| shadasonic slumbering no more User ID: 15732022 09/24/2012 01:58 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning everyone! Well, if the sun doesn't belch out a huge CME at us and knock the grid down, if a Gamma Ray bursts doesn't fry us, if an earthquake doesn't cause the earth to swallow us, if a tsunami doesn't drown us, if the evil ETs don't abduct us, if WWIII doesn't start...etc. etc. etc., it will be a good day. No wonder I've developed an ulcer...eh? lol I need to take a page out of 66's book and stop worrying about everything so much and enjoy each day for what it is while continuing to learn all I can here. At least, I believe it was 66 that had mentioned her father's property on the side of a mountain. Hubby and I are prepared and continuing to prepare, as best we can, for events that may come our way, but I wish I could learn not to worry so darn much about all of it every single day. I have often thought that at my age, it would be nice to be able to simply relax and enjoy life but with all that goes on around us in the world, I've not been able to master that behavior yet. Quoting: shenue Anyway, a very sincere good morning to everyone and my wish is for you all to have a very good day/night. GOOD Morning Shenue :1FOTU1: Excellent TS,VIBRATE don't FIXATE! It is sufficiently clear that all things change, yet nothing truly perishes! It riles THEM to believe that you perceive the web they weave- moody blues |
| shadasonic slumbering no more User ID: 15732022 09/24/2012 02:02 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been keeping my eyes on these, as they can induce seismic activity. What I like to explain to folks is that they are point specific. There are many sensors spread through out the world. Cosmic rays can strike certain regions depending on where in space they are traveling from. Where ever the spike is then that is where in space they are coming from. They can effect both night and day sides. That is why you will see a spike in one region and complete flat line in all others. Seismic prone areas can be triggered by these ground reaching cosmic rays. I have to disagree w/you on this, gamma ray events are hard to detect because such small amts reach our instraments orbiting earth- GRB's are most often EXTRA galactic, and are not close enough to the Earth to affect us in any way- and certainly not enough to influence plate tectonics! Here are two articles that explain GRB's- they are not to be feared unless they come from our own Sun in massive amts. edit ; OR from a very close star. [link to astro.berkeley.edu] [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] Here is another nonsensical item; that gamma ray bursts could cause earthquakes! If you do a little research on GRB's, you will see why this is incorrect. Are you saying a large neutron absorption couldn't cause seismic activity? Because I've been assured it easily could. Neutrons can have a huge influence on electromagnetic activity. Fission by the absorption of neutrons can cause the splitting of atoms, when this happens you get a chain reaction that greatly increases your piezoelectric output. Shear pressure gives way to thrust, then you have an earthquake. Not arguing buddy , just repeating what I have been taught.Peace Last Edited by shadasonic on 09/24/2012 02:12 PM It is sufficiently clear that all things change, yet nothing truly perishes! It riles THEM to believe that you perceive the web they weave- moody blues |
| NiNzrez User ID: 12844841 09/24/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The minute you minimize shared info is the minute YOU have lost out. Good night all Get good rest I disagree. The minute you let garbage, fear-mongering pseudo-science go out to thousands of people (some of whom are looking for REAL info) unchallenged. WE ALL LOSE. I feel a duty to the lurkers, youngsters and others to at least point out unscientific nonsense if not make a point by point counter-argument. Unfortunately, I no longer have the time and energy to debunk and correct all the disinfo/misinfo on YouTube; that's a full-time job for zero pay. Although every other sentence on that video is a logical fallacy, I'll just make two points here- 1) The 1st quarter moon was in Sagittarius last night. Sagittarius A (galactic center) is in the constellation Sagittarius (duh!). So any heavenly body which move through Sagittarius is roughly in "galactic alignment". This includes all of the planets at some point, the Sun (once a year), and many comets, asteroids, etc. as well as the moon. It's no big deal....happens all the time....no earthquakes or any other doom is caused by this. 2) He claims some significance to an occultation of Sirius "from the Moon's perspective". Who cares? How many folks are living on the moon? There's an alignment of something to something everywhere and always. It is classic pseudo-pscience. The problem is unemployment. People have so much time on their hands to make fancy videos about nothing at all. Besides that we have a growth industry in professional pseudo-psyence. Lots of folks competing on YouTube to be the next Richard C. Hoagland (Elenin was a piloted vehicle) or top magic crystal salesman. I'm not into censorship (except self-censorship), but until I'm forever banned I will point out crapola when I see it. I'd like to see this return to being a sanctuary for solar science and a refuge from the Page 1 crazies. ![]() garbage, fear-mongering pseudo-science??? lets get some things clear here right now just because someone posts something that does not fall within your way of thinking, does not make it garbage or fear mongering you have made it clear how your feel about UFOs many times in the past. but just because you think there all BS, does not make it the final work for no one to post about same goes with all ideas, theorys or info they run across on the net Tom and IWTB not coming around much latley has nothing at all to do with posts such as mine. if anyone remembers, the very thing that brought Tom to GLP was a thread about UFO orbs seen around the sun. IWTB works his ass off in the real world, again, this is something all us regulars know there is ALL KINDS of info posted within this thread, if you take a look back, we have gone over about every single theory and isea about space that is out there. People on this thread are encouraged to CONTINUE to post something they find interesting that has to do with space weather and space in general. because the FACT is, that NONE OF US, not one of us on here has all the answers and facts. And becuase of this, NO ONE shoulc be acting like thay know for fact the answers to anything on here, unless its a subject that has been proven as fact. i encourage everyone on here to continue to explore for answers to questions that we all have and to post anything and everything that you find interesting if someone on here does not agree with it and only has putdowns for said posted info, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT POST! if someone has something constructive to add, or wish to talk about theorys, then go for it! but untill the day that we all have ALL the answers, lets keep an open mind to others thoughts and ideas you never know when they just may be right if someone does not agree with this way of running this thread, then move onto a dif thread where your final say will be the end all be all of whatever is being talked about. but just a guess here.... i doubt very highly you will find any thread anywhere on the net that will see anyones words as the final judgment words of fact. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12844841 09/24/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: El Quisqueyano I have been keeping my eyes on these, as they can induce seismic activity. What I like to explain to folks is that they are point specific. There are many sensors spread through out the world. Cosmic rays can strike certain regions depending on where in space they are traveling from. Where ever the spike is then that is where in space they are coming from. They can effect both night and day sides. That is why you will see a spike in one region and complete flat line in all others. Seismic prone areas can be triggered by these ground reaching cosmic rays. I have to disagree w/you on this, gamma ray events are hard to detect because such small amts reach our instraments orbiting earth- GRB's are most often EXTRA galactic, and are not close enough to the Earth to affect us in any way- and certainly not enough to influence plate tectonics! Here are two articles that explain GRB's- they are not to be feared unless they come from our own Sun in massive amts. edit ; OR from a very close star. [link to astro.berkeley.edu] [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] Here is another nonsensical item; that gamma ray bursts could cause earthquakes! If you do a little research on GRB's, you will see why this is incorrect. Are you saying a large neutron absorption couldn't cause seismic activity? Because I've been assured it easily could. Neutrons can have a huge influence on electromagnetic activity. Fission by the absorption of neutrons can cause the splitting of atoms, when this happens you get a chain reaction that greatly increases your piezoelectric output. Shear pressure gives way to thrust, then you have an earthquake. Not arguing buddy , just repeating what I have been taught.Peace do a search for "Effects of Gamma Ray Bursts in Earth Biosphere" for a vast amount of research done in this area :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12844841 09/24/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gamma Ray Bursts, Earthquakes (The 12/26 tsunami), and Superwaves [link to www.freerepublic.com] lots to read on this subject and even more to learn about it |
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| SpiderJones User ID: 1540313 09/24/2012 02:51 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: El Quisqueyano I have been keeping my eyes on these, as they can induce seismic activity. What I like to explain to folks is that they are point specific. There are many sensors spread through out the world. Cosmic rays can strike certain regions depending on where in space they are traveling from. Where ever the spike is then that is where in space they are coming from. They can effect both night and day sides. That is why you will see a spike in one region and complete flat line in all others. Seismic prone areas can be triggered by these ground reaching cosmic rays. I have to disagree w/you on this, gamma ray events are hard to detect because such small amts reach our instraments orbiting earth- GRB's are most often EXTRA galactic, and are not close enough to the Earth to affect us in any way- and certainly not enough to influence plate tectonics! Here are two articles that explain GRB's- they are not to be feared unless they come from our own Sun in massive amts. edit ; OR from a very close star. [link to astro.berkeley.edu] [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] Here is another nonsensical item; that gamma ray bursts could cause earthquakes! If you do a little research on GRB's, you will see why this is incorrect. Are you saying a large neutron absorption couldn't cause seismic activity? Because I've been assured it easily could. Neutrons can have a huge influence on electromagnetic activity. Fission by the absorption of neutrons can cause the splitting of atoms, when this happens you get a chain reaction that greatly increases your piezoelectric output. Shear pressure gives way to thrust, then you have an earthquake. Not arguing buddy , just repeating what I have been taught.Peace Gamma rays bursts were the topic, those found by the very sensitive orbital instruments which pick up a few indicators that a gamma ray has hit the equipment. This is not a tidal wave of gamma rays- just a few. In these concentrations, as they are detected by our satellites, in 99.9999999% of instances, no, it could not cause enough electromagnetic activity to cause earthquakes. The theory proposed by La Violette in 1980's was re: gravitational waves, which are theoretical, a GRB causing these waves to travel thru space to hit our planet, causing earthquakes- this is still(even if proved real)a very weak energy(unless it happens VERY close to us). Neutron absorbtion in our atmosphere, from our Sun, can cause the electromagnetic effects you are speaking of, and studies are still in progrees to determine the effect, if any on the Earth re:earthquakes. It would be very nice to be able to find something which would warn us of E.Q's, I hope something is proven accurate soon. I love talking about this stuff and throwing ideas around,& finding new research. watching and waiting patiently... |
| SpiderJones User ID: 1540313 09/24/2012 02:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gamma Ray Bursts, Earthquakes (The 12/26 tsunami), and Superwaves Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12844841 [link to www.freerepublic.com] lots to read on this subject and even more to learn about it I have read this before, it is a good article. this from the article :They admit that gamma rays could slightly affect the ionization state of the Earth's atmosphere, but it is questionable that this would somehow cause earthquakes. However, if a longitudinal gravity potential wave pulse were to accompany a gamma ray burst, the mystery becomes resolved. The connection between earthquakes and gamma ray bursts becomes plausible As above, so below! Gravitational waves, if they exist, would connect all things in the universe, and have an effect on all things. Last Edited by SpiderJones on 09/24/2012 02:59 PM watching and waiting patiently... |
| shadasonic slumbering no more User ID: 15732022 09/24/2012 03:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SpiderJones I have to disagree w/you on this, gamma ray events are hard to detect because such small amts reach our instraments orbiting earth- GRB's are most often EXTRA galactic, and are not close enough to the Earth to affect us in any way- and certainly not enough to influence plate tectonics! Here are two articles that explain GRB's- they are not to be feared unless they come from our own Sun in massive amts. edit ; OR from a very close star. [link to astro.berkeley.edu] [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] Here is another nonsensical item; that gamma ray bursts could cause earthquakes! If you do a little research on GRB's, you will see why this is incorrect. Are you saying a large neutron absorption couldn't cause seismic activity? Because I've been assured it easily could. Neutrons can have a huge influence on electromagnetic activity. Fission by the absorption of neutrons can cause the splitting of atoms, when this happens you get a chain reaction that greatly increases your piezoelectric output. Shear pressure gives way to thrust, then you have an earthquake. Not arguing buddy , just repeating what I have been taught.Peace Gamma rays bursts were the topic, those found by the very sensitive orbital instruments which pick up a few indicators that a gamma ray has hit the equipment. This is not a tidal wave of gamma rays- just a few. In these concentrations, as they are detected by our satellites, in 99.9999999% of instances, no, it could not cause enough electromagnetic activity to cause earthquakes. The theory proposed by La Violette in 1980's was re: gravitational waves, which are theoretical, a GRB causing these waves to travel thru space to hit our planet, causing earthquakes- this is still(even if proved real)a very weak energy(unless it happens VERY close to us). Neutron absorbtion in our atmosphere, from our Sun, can cause the electromagnetic effects you are speaking of, and studies are still in progrees to determine the effect, if any on the Earth re:earthquakes. It would be very nice to be able to find something which would warn us of E.Q's, I hope something is proven accurate soon. I love talking about this stuff and throwing ideas around,& finding new research. Good post, I had a professor that had tangent theories on coulombs force law that tied neutrons in as a fissionary catalyst instead of the usual they pass through it all. It was extremely interesting and made alot of sense. La Violette is a great thinker, loved his 'Genesis of the Cosmos' !Peace It is sufficiently clear that all things change, yet nothing truly perishes! It riles THEM to believe that you perceive the web they weave- moody blues |
| shadasonic slumbering no more User ID: 15732022 09/24/2012 03:02 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gamma Ray Bursts, Earthquakes (The 12/26 tsunami), and Superwaves Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12844841 [link to www.freerepublic.com] lots to read on this subject and even more to learn about it I have read this before, it is a good article. this from the article :They admit that gamma rays could slightly affect the ionization state of the Earth's atmosphere, but it is questionable that this would somehow cause earthquakes. However, if a longitudinal gravity potential wave pulse were to accompany a gamma ray burst, the mystery becomes resolved. The connection between earthquakes and gamma ray bursts becomes plausible As above, so below! Gravitational waves, if they exist, would connect all things in the universe, and have an effect on all things. Its all spirals and waves, you do good work spidey! It is sufficiently clear that all things change, yet nothing truly perishes! It riles THEM to believe that you perceive the web they weave- moody blues |
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