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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


wtf

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Its coming around the bend good buddy,this looks like an impressive CME from that M. I've been looking for that area but solarsoft hasn't updated in 3 days
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Good catch Luis! We've got incoming energy and the sun seems to be waking up a bit.scheming
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Good catch Luis! We've got incoming energy and the sun seems to be waking up a bit.scheming
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at last! I's beig so booored!
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Good morning.......

Oh my goodness I see I have some catchup reading to do since last night. I checked the kp index right before coming here and see we've had/having a decent storm. wow
I better get to reading the posts since I left last night.

Last Edited by shenue on 10/08/2012 09:35 AM
I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Then it dawned on me.
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Did the M flare come from 1585 or 82? Just woke up and can't seem to find data or maybe still half asleep :)
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K-7 over night, which is pretty impressive, only a little lower than last weeks.
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I watch this thread with great anticipation. I also watch Gabe and El Q. What I see is that the Earth and the Sun dance together always. I'm sure others see this, too. What keeps me so excited is that I am sure there is a connection that I cannot put my finger on. Does anyone else have this sense?
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


Most definitely
 Quoting: shadasonic


There's not one shred of hard evidence linking earthquakes to solar activity (outside of GLP and other hearsay). In fact all of the evidence shows no correlation at all.

EARTHQUAKES vs. SS ACTIVITY-

equ-ss

However increased solar activity DOES produce Republican Senators. Here's proof-

senators-ss
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye



come on hugh....
you do not really think the NUMBER of sun spots have anything to do with solar activity.....
we have seen huge filament eruption this year that created some dense and fast moving CME's lucky they were on the back side.

now there are many scientist who do think just that...that solar activity is connect to things on this planet as well as the other planets in the inner system.

there is so much more then SS numbers......

TEC, for one.

why would the USGS over the last several year create so many ground sensors to read things...I think they now have more then NASA and NOAA. yes the USGS
[link to geomag.usgs.gov]

so there in it self must show some proof there just might be connections to solar activity and EQ's.

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[link to www.solarham.net]
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I watch this thread with great anticipation. I also watch Gabe and El Q. What I see is that the Earth and the Sun dance together always. I'm sure others see this, too. What keeps me so excited is that I am sure there is a connection that I cannot put my finger on. Does anyone else have this sense?
 Quoting: AkivaJeff


Most definitely
 Quoting: shadasonic


There's not one shred of hard evidence linking earthquakes to solar activity (outside of GLP and other hearsay). In fact all of the evidence shows no correlation at all.

EARTHQUAKES vs. SS ACTIVITY-

equ-ss

However increased solar activity DOES produce Republican Senators. Here's proof-

senators-ss
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye



come on hugh....
you do not really think the NUMBER of sun spots have anything to do with solar activity.....
we have seen huge filament eruption this year that created so dense and fast moving CME's lucky they were on the back side.

now there are many scientist who do think just that...that solar activity is connect to things on this planet as well as the other planets in the inner system.

there is so much more then SS numbers......

TEC, for one.

why would the USGS over the last several year create so many ground sensors to read things...I think they now have more then NASA and NOAA. yes the USGS
[link to geomag.usgs.gov]

so there in it self must show some proof there just might be connections to solar activity and EQ's.
 Quoting: psyoptics


The number of sunspots doesn't seem to have to do with anything. We have all watched several of them at the same time just sit there and do nothing. It is the solar activity that effects quakes, whether it be in the form of filaments, CME's or winds.

Nope not an expert. Just a person who loves watching solar and quake activity and after two years, convinced the two are related, and if little ol' me can see it, so can the experts - or maybe not as many of them try to over think it
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Did the M flare come from 1585 or 82? Just woke up and can't seem to find data or maybe still half asleep :)
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M2.3 Flare on 10/8/2012 @ 11:17 UTC - Sunspot (un-numbered north east limb)
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Want to ask you experts about proton density... how many protons/cm3 are we talking for a proton storm? How many protons /cm3 for a S1, S2 and so on? Cannot seem to find that info online....
 Quoting: vivaveritas 3017266


S1, S2 (and so on) storms are solar radiation storms
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

the Physical measure is located to the right of the storm size
:)
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Want to ask you experts about proton density... how many protons/cm3 are we talking for a proton storm? How many protons /cm3 for a S1, S2 and so on? Cannot seem to find that info online....
 Quoting: vivaveritas 3017266


S1, S2 (and so on) storms are solar radiation storms
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

the Physical measure is located to the right of the storm size
:)
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Thanks Nin - but how to transfer that measure into protons/cm3??
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Want to ask you experts about proton density... how many protons/cm3 are we talking for a proton storm? How many protons /cm3 for a S1, S2 and so on? Cannot seem to find that info online....
 Quoting: vivaveritas 3017266


S1, S2 (and so on) storms are solar radiation storms
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

the Physical measure is located to the right of the storm size
:)
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thanks Nin - but how to transfer that measure into protons/cm3??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3017266


I mean at what protons/cm3 rate should we be alarmed about a proton storm?
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 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


wtf

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Its coming around the bend good buddy,this looks like an impressive CME from that M. I've been looking for that area but solarsoft hasn't updated in 3 days
 Quoting: shadasonic


hf
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Want to ask you experts about proton density... how many protons/cm3 are we talking for a proton storm? How many protons /cm3 for a S1, S2 and so on? Cannot seem to find that info online....
 Quoting: vivaveritas 3017266


S1, S2 (and so on) storms are solar radiation storms
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

the Physical measure is located to the right of the storm size
:)
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thanks Nin - but how to transfer that measure into protons/cm3??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3017266


well for instance on the scale list, we see a S3 storm is reached with 10>3
Flux level of >= 10 MeV particles (ions)*


so we look over at the proton monitor here
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
on the proton monitor we can see the level reached with the reading sizes on the left
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Want to ask you experts about proton density... how many protons/cm3 are we talking for a proton storm? How many protons /cm3 for a S1, S2 and so on? Cannot seem to find that info online....
 Quoting: vivaveritas 3017266


S1, S2 (and so on) storms are solar radiation storms
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

the Physical measure is located to the right of the storm size
:)
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Thanks Nin - but how to transfer that measure into protons/cm3??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3017266


I mean at what protons/cm3 rate should we be alarmed about a proton storm?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3017266


S4 is Severe
S5 is Extreme
both are alarming levels
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
to the right of the storm size it tells what the common effects are for each storm level
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so the source of last night's M-flare was the unnamed region yet to rotate into view? Does anybody know if this region has been intensifying or subsiding lately?

And good morning, Solar Family! :D
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so the source of last night's M-flare was the unnamed region yet to rotate into view? Does anybody know if this region has been intensifying or subsiding lately?

And good morning, Solar Family! :D
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Good Morning!
yup thats where it came from :)
i have been watching the backside regions and this one looks to have remained around the same size
(region is in the top right section)
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Thanks, NiN! hf

I suppose it would have to be a pretty potent region for the Goes to pick it up already, may provide an interesting week of studying for us.
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whoa, did u guys see this?

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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whoa, did u guys see this?

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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nice sized CME produced with this mornings M flare
not earth directed
the region that produced this will be Earth facing in the next few days
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whoa, did u guys see this?

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: mtn_mang


nice sized CME produced with this mornings M flare
not earth directed
the region that produced this will be Earth facing in the next few days
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Thanks Nin hf
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On the STEREO B EUVI movie it looks like a large region involving both hemispheres are affected by this event. Possibly more than one event, as the CME may have come from the southern hemisphere hours later. It's difficult to analyze as we have limited views of the activity far-side.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SDO Composite image of M-flare:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

What appears to be another CME in the south (3 hours later):

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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On the STEREO B EUVI movie it looks like a large region involving both hemispheres are affected by this event. Possibly more than one event, as the CME may have come from the southern hemisphere hours later. It's difficult to analyze as we have limited views of the activity far-side.

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SDO Composite image of M-flare:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

What appears to be another CME in the south (3 hours later):

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

explosionahhhabomb
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wow, the stereo behind is pretty impressive. The flare set off at least 2 different kind of events: the sunspot below flared and to the right there was another hyder flare which set off the CME (this is the reason why it is southward oriented). Interestingly, this flare looks just like the one we had yesterday, leaving a "scarr" on the sun...
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anybody else notice that the last few CMEs were all caused by filaments (including the one we just had)?
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SOLAR FLARE: This morning, Oct. 8th at 1117 UT, a solar flare erupted on the northeastern edge of the sun's disk. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the extreme ultraviolet flash:

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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Looks like that CME gave us some good action last night! Potsdam recorded a high of Kp 7- [link to www-app3.gfz-potsdam.de] , and even NOAA estimated two 6's.

Might be a little more fun on the way, Bz just plummeted past -15 [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] and a G1 warning was issued:

=====================

Space Weather Message Code: WARK05
Serial Number: 806
Issue Time: 2012 Oct 08 1756 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 5 expected
Valid From: 2012 Oct 08 1800 UTC
Valid To: 2012 Oct 08 2359 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
NOAA Scale: G1 - Minor

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/NOAAscales

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 60 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Spacecraft - Minor impact on satellite operations possible.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes, i.e., northern tier of the U.S. such as northern Michigan and Maine.

=======================

PS. It seems over at geoeffective enlil [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] they've seen their mistake and put back up the 10-5 model run that shows the CME that just hit. Looks like the erasure was a glitch

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SOLAR FLARE: This morning, Oct. 8th at 1117 UT, a solar flare erupted on the northeastern edge of the sun's disk. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the extreme ultraviolet flash:

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Goofy for God


The explosion heralds the arrival of a farside active region, which will turn toward Earth later this week.
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SOLAR FLARE: This morning, Oct. 8th at 1117 UT, a solar flare erupted on the northeastern edge of the sun's disk. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the extreme ultraviolet flash:

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Goofy for God


The explosion heralds the arrival of a farside active region, which will turn toward Earth later this week.
 Quoting: Goofy for God


[link to stereo.ssl.berkeley.edu]

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Hello all : )

Just popping by to say whoa!

Random.

I'm not on my Cpu. so I am just a observer tonight : ?
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