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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Hello Everyone,

The 2 min news talks about the radiation map for the USA and that the sun spots die out once turning to earth.

Have a great one!


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Good morning all .... HF

What's up with the never ending C9.0???

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

.... and solar soft is forbidden again.

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Did anyone catch the filament eruption at 00:45 UTC today ??? I was checking on the C9 and saw it on SDO.

Here's a shot from the helioviewer.
Just think of the "could of beens" .... hiding



Looks like the never ending C9 came from 1589 at 8:08

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wow..i usually keep up on this thread..but just now on weather channel...12 flares in 2 days? and they said nasa keepin a eye out...pretty serious???
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Good morning all .... HF

What's up with the never ending C9.0???

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

.... and solar soft is forbidden again.

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /solarsoft/latest_events/ on this server.


[link to www.lmsal.com]
 Quoting: TS66


I am trying to understand the 'never ending C9' comment. When I look at the graph, I only see a short lived C9 at about hr 10. I am still trying to learn because so much of the sun stuff simply escapes me...still. What is it that I am missing?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Thank you 66.

And good morning to everyone!

Last Edited by shenue on 10/12/2012 09:09 AM
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This is so off topic, but then again not, I just had to share .... lol Someone just sent this to me, and let's face it, THIS is the REAL problem. A very well spoken seemingly intelligent woman, that in all honesty should not even be allowed behind the wheel of a car.




And this is not the first time I've heard this sentiment !!! How in the world are we collectively as a species going to survive doom ???? LOL
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That can't be for real! They're out there, thats for sure.

Had man in front of me at a Caseys pizza quick stop. Guy asked him how many slices did he want his pizza cut into 8 or 10. The guy looked at him in all seriousness and said, "I don't think theres anyway I can eat 10, better make it 8."
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omg
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Are you serious? Is she serious? Wow!Deers can now read, according to this woman. LOL
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Good morning all .... HF

What's up with the never ending C9.0???

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

.... and solar soft is forbidden again.

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /solarsoft/latest_events/ on this server.


[link to www.lmsal.com]
 Quoting: TS66


I am trying to understand the 'never ending C9' comment. When I look at the graph, I only see a short lived C9 at about hr 10. I am still trying to learn because so much of the sun stuff simply escapes me...still. What is it that I am missing?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Thank you 66.

And good morning to everyone!
 Quoting: shenue



If you look at the chart below the graph, it shows

Cur
Beg
Max
End
and the corresponding times of each.

They show the beginning of the C flare at 8:08, the Max at 8:20 (C9), but no end time. Not to mention, no note of the flares that followed after the C9.

It's as if someone decided to just go home in the middle of their shift. 1dunno1

Solar soft is still inaccessible too ???
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Good morning all .... HF

What's up with the never ending C9.0???

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

.... and solar soft is forbidden again.

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /solarsoft/latest_events/ on this server.


[link to www.lmsal.com]
 Quoting: TS66


I am trying to understand the 'never ending C9' comment. When I look at the graph, I only see a short lived C9 at about hr 10. I am still trying to learn because so much of the sun stuff simply escapes me...still. What is it that I am missing?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Thank you 66.

And good morning to everyone!
 Quoting: shenue



If you look at the chart below the graph, it shows

Cur
Beg
Max
End
and the corresponding times of each.

They show the beginning of the C flare at 8:08, the Max at 8:20 (C9), but no end time. Not to mention, no note of the flares that followed after the C9.

It's as if someone decided to just go home in the middle of their shift. 1dunno1

Solar soft is still inaccessible too ???
 Quoting: TS66


They are all at caseys getting their 8 slices of pizza!

I can't get on solsoft either. I've seen them not give end times for flares before but its just weird because other sites aren't up and when I try to get on certain nasa sites it restarts my computer!huffy
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Restarts it ??? Never had that happen before. That's a little scary !
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Good morning all .... HF

What's up with the never ending C9.0???

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

.... and solar soft is forbidden again.

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /solarsoft/latest_events/ on this server.


[link to www.lmsal.com]
 Quoting: TS66


I am trying to understand the 'never ending C9' comment. When I look at the graph, I only see a short lived C9 at about hr 10. I am still trying to learn because so much of the sun stuff simply escapes me...still. What is it that I am missing?

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Thank you 66.

And good morning to everyone!
 Quoting: shenue



If you look at the chart below the graph, it shows

Cur
Beg
Max
End
and the corresponding times of each.

They show the beginning of the C flare at 8:08, the Max at 8:20 (C9), but no end time. Not to mention, no note of the flares that followed after the C9.

It's as if someone decided to just go home in the middle of their shift. 1dunno1

Solar soft is still inaccessible too ???
 Quoting: TS66


Thank You 66
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Now this is out there but you guys probably expect that from me. I've been going back quite away on this thread looking for anything that would give me a clue on earthfacing SS decline. One very interesting thing I've found is that as the SS started declining the TEC levels started rising. We've become enamored with the TEC being too damn high and thats because its all we've been given energy wise. I think its odd and I'm sure theres an explanation, but we're getting a much higher electron particle average as our SS plasma diminishes,just throwing it out there!
 Quoting: shadasonic

2 things i have noticed.
1 it is just not SS but all solar activity fall silent when facing our planet.
2 i thought it was a issue with our position in the orbit around the sun and as we came around we would be facing these outbursts...but know they really seem to be going on on the backs ...well that backside is referenced from earths perspective.

this seems more like there is a magnetic push from earth's direction on the sun...as soon as this is out of reach blast away!
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Hello Everyone,

The 2 min news talks about the radiation map for the USA and that the sun spots die out once turning to earth.

Have a great one!


[link to www.youtube.com]



 Quoting: Tiny Trink


EYES open and yet again a beta/gama SS falls asleep and yes he is not the only one to notice this.
gee i feel like i just responded to a SHAD post about that very thing just before i watch the 2 min news..........

so?


NASA.....? SO?


oh smart ones......? SO?

just as the sun falls silent on this, so has info from our researchers...i mean our PAYED ones!
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Good morning all .... HF

What's up with the never ending C9.0???

They are all at caseys getting their 8 slices of pizza!

I can't get on solsoft either. I've seen them not give end times for flares before but its just weird because other sites aren't up and when I try to get on certain nasa sites it restarts my computer!huffy
 Quoting: TS66


they must have cut the pie into 14 slices thinking they would have enough....opps needed to run back for more.
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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At least you guys are cracking on the big boys now. Makes me sad to see Shad and others laughing at the sheeple's stupidity - in the other thread..... (that guy didn't seem belligerent)some probably laugh at this thread and it's continual "*Gee, the data doesn't add up" denial, though. So, I guess it all balances out anyways......
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At least you guys are cracking on the big boys now. Makes me sad to see Shad and others laughing at the sheeple's stupidity - in the other thread..... (that guy didn't seem belligerent)some probably laugh at this thread and it's continual "*Gee, the data doesn't add up" denial, though. So, I guess it all balances out anyways......
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Now this is out there but you guys probably expect that from me. I've been going back quite away on this thread looking for anything that would give me a clue on earthfacing SS decline. One very interesting thing I've found is that as the SS started declining the TEC levels started rising. We've become enamored with the TEC being too damn high and thats because its all we've been given energy wise. I think its odd and I'm sure theres an explanation, but we're getting a much higher electron particle average as our SS plasma diminishes,just throwing it out there!
 Quoting: shadasonic

2 things i have noticed.
1 it is just not SS but all solar activity fall silent when facing our planet.
2 i thought it was a issue with our position in the orbit around the sun and as we came around we would be facing these outbursts...but know they really seem to be going on on the backs ...well that backside is referenced from earths perspective.

this seems more like there is a magnetic push from earth's direction on the sun...as soon as this is out of reach blast away!
 Quoting: psyoptics


This would make sense IF it only happened when the sunspots were at the 60 degree longitude mark which is where it is earth directed, or there and about. Only from this direction would Earth be able to push something away, if that is even possible. The west and east limbs of the Sun are not earth directed, heck anything west of 30 degree longitude isn't Earth directed.

It has to be "something" else besides Earth itself. Something that was behind the Sun at one point and now seems to be more on the back west side (if you were looking at the Earth it is west or left side of screen lol). Something that is drawing the energy of the Sun that way. This has been happening since just after mid July. We've even had BGD sunspots pointing at us and they didn't even burp.

As you can tell with my unscientific wording, this is just observation from a person who loves solar watching.
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Well, I have to say the lack of solar activity is maddening, and I suddenly have a new found admiration for the guys and gals at the space agencies have to endure, and observe the Solar MINIMUMs !!
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Haha, well said TS! :)

The only thing I'm seeing at the moment is some Bz/Bt separation [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Possibly the vanguard of CH539. Either way nothing much exciting going on with Sol for the moment :)
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hi guys .just stopin by to take a look at the new region coming over the limb looks like its interacting with the next spot group just over the limb? [link to www.youtube.com]

awesome loops and good interaction from the two,almost synchronised
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Space Weather Message Code: WARK04
Serial Number: 2018
Issue Time: 2012 Oct 12 2245 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Valid From: 2012 Oct 12 2250 UTC
Valid To: 2012 Oct 13 1300 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Bz going South again-ACE SW Data:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Hello Everyone,

The 2 min news talks about the radiation map for the USA and that the sun spots die out once turning to earth.

Have a great one!


[link to www.youtube.com]



 Quoting: Tiny Trink


In the last shot of the vid, those two sunspots coming around the eastern limb look concave to me, like as if they've been sucked down into the sun somewhat, i wondeer if that keeps them from flaring, like they are below some kind of elevation necessary for flares to occur. Also, maybe some force is pushing them into the sun, only on the frontside.
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Now this is out there but you guys probably expect that from me. I've been going back quite away on this thread looking for anything that would give me a clue on earthfacing SS decline. One very interesting thing I've found is that as the SS started declining the TEC levels started rising. We've become enamored with the TEC being too damn high and thats because its all we've been given energy wise. I think its odd and I'm sure theres an explanation, but we're getting a much higher electron particle average as our SS plasma diminishes,just throwing it out there!
 Quoting: shadasonic

2 things i have noticed.
1 it is just not SS but all solar activity fall silent when facing our planet.
2 i thought it was a issue with our position in the orbit around the sun and as we came around we would be facing these outbursts...but know they really seem to be going on on the backs ...well that backside is referenced from earths perspective.

this seems more like there is a magnetic push from earth's direction on the sun...as soon as this is out of reach blast away!
 Quoting: psyoptics


Oh my gosh Psy, see the comment I just posted above. I'm going through today's comments, watched the vid, posted and now see your post, I think we are thinking along the same lines

Last Edited by Isis One on 10/12/2012 08:11 PM
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somebody tell me the line between 1589 and the upcoming region is a glitch.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

:for solar thread:

Last Edited by mtn_mang on 10/12/2012 08:18 PM
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somebody tell me the line between 1589 and the upcoming region is a glitch.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

:for solar thread:
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Looks a glitch in the cartoon there. The latest GOES X-Ray image shows some big energy around the east limb.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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phew, thanks hugh.

didn't see it on any of the other spectrums so i assumed it was a mistake. the coloring of its what threw me off, didn't seem like an ordinary glitch.
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Did the asteroid Vesta once have a magnetic field? Possibly, according to researchers; but their results aren't yet conclusive.

<snip>Earth has a familiar magnetic field, and little Mercury has an oddly strong one, but could a chunk of rock as small as an asteroid ever have had a magnetic field spawned by the churnings of its own molten metal core? Theorists have had their doubts because the smaller the core, the faster the churning must be. But now, scientists studying a meteorite in the lab report having found signs that the tiny core of the asteroid Vesta once churned hard enough to create a magnetic field. The discovery would give theorists a much-needed, extreme example of a dynamo to ponder.<snip>

More here:

[link to news.sciencemag.org]

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Now this is out there but you guys probably expect that from me. I've been going back quite away on this thread looking for anything that would give me a clue on earthfacing SS decline. One very interesting thing I've found is that as the SS started declining the TEC levels started rising. We've become enamored with the TEC being too damn high and thats because its all we've been given energy wise. I think its odd and I'm sure theres an explanation, but we're getting a much higher electron particle average as our SS plasma diminishes,just throwing it out there!
 Quoting: shadasonic

2 things i have noticed.
1 it is just not SS but all solar activity fall silent when facing our planet.
2 i thought it was a issue with our position in the orbit around the sun and as we came around we would be facing these outbursts...but know they really seem to be going on on the backs ...well that backside is referenced from earths perspective.

this seems more like there is a magnetic push from earth's direction on the sun...as soon as this is out of reach blast away!
 Quoting: psyoptics


Yeah. we've been looking into this. Gabe said from his info we're looking at late Oct., early Nov. Our line of thinking as the flares have been moving on the backside is that something is drawing this energy out,not nibiru.

Last Edited by shadahoochie on 10/12/2012 09:26 PM
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At least you guys are cracking on the big boys now. Makes me sad to see Shad and others laughing at the sheeple's stupidity - in the other thread..... (that guy didn't seem belligerent)some probably laugh at this thread and it's continual "*Gee, the data doesn't add up" denial, though. So, I guess it all balances out anyways......
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You know I'm sorry and feel bad for that but didn't make fun of them to their faces. I have been on countless threads trying to help and all I've been called is shill, thread killer and much worse. I've received tons of bad Karma and all I've ever done on those threads is help,so I'm a little angry with some of them. I won't venture on ridiculous threads anymore,as most of the people who have tried to help have learned faster than I have.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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I'm trying to figure out why NOAA has issued that K-4 Warning. I can't find any reason for it in my search for current data. Last night they issued a k-4 warning for a 5-hour period, but this new one is for a 14-hour period!? Does anyone know why? I'm stumped here.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

NOAA's own ENLIL model shows SW velocity projected to be declining now and density also low.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Boulder's Magnetometer is only showing a K=2.4 and only 14nT:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

SOHO's solar wind data shows nothing major going on there:

[link to umtof.umd.edu]

Latest ACE Mag-SW data:

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

What has me puzzled is that we're usually seeing something on this thread before NOAA reluctantly posts their WARNINGs. This warning seems to be uncalled-for or at least a bit premature. Perhaps I missed something; if so please clue me in.

wtf
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Hello Everyone,

The 2 min news talks about the radiation map for the USA and that the sun spots die out once turning to earth.

Have a great one!


[link to www.youtube.com]



 Quoting: Tiny Trink


In the last shot of the vid, those two sunspots coming around the eastern limb look concave to me, like as if they've been sucked down into the sun somewhat, i wondeer if that keeps them from flaring, like they are below some kind of elevation necessary for flares to occur. Also, maybe some force is pushing them into the sun, only on the frontside.
 Quoting: Isis One


Convective currents pulling energy to a different area
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