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no takers on the can we see behind the sun....?
really and truly!
so the stereos are maybe on their way behind...but can they see?
what would be behind...can they look behind themselves?
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no takers on the can we see behind the sun....?
really and truly!
so the stereos are maybe on their way behind...but can they see?
what would be behind...can they look behind themselves?
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I'm actually intrigued by this just need a new day and some energy,but its got alot of possibilities. This was a huge discussion on a thread a couple of years ago, but as I was only interested in finding doom I blew it off,silly shad.
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'If we have missed maximum, write this the f*** down... Doomsday is legit. We can't take any more collapse in the upper atmosphere. We need M and small X flares. We dont need hyder flares and X10s... but part of my EM video detailed the collapse and its why I think the F1 and D layers are overionized... and while I'm at it, with the new 'wave clouds' I'd have to say that ionization is getting lower. Let's hope we get about one M flare a week for the next 20 months. maybe a few X1s. Legit.'
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I'm guessing he was stoned when he typed that...makes no sense to me.

pump2bonghit
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No, he does not seem the type to write crap while stoned. Lol. He is an attorney and is not an alarmist in the least. His demeanor over time does not equate to someone that makes random or false statements.
 Quoting: Vesper33

i did read a paper about this several years ago...
this is not a stoner BS.
we need flares...CME not so much but the flares.

this was becoming a big concern several years ago when the SS number well dropped to zero.

so now we are having very little amounted flares during the solar max and still getting pounded be CME and solar wind....and what ever hit yesterday.

filament and other eruptions seem to be driving this CME attack from the sun this year and not SS and flares.

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A Comment from S0 under his most recent Post -

'If we have missed maximum, write this the f*** down... Doomsday is legit. We can't take any more collapse in the upper atmosphere. We need M and small X flares. We dont need hyder flares and X10s... but part of my EM video detailed the collapse and its why I think the F1 and D layers are overionized... and while I'm at it, with the new 'wave clouds' I'd have to say that ionization is getting lower. Let's hope we get about one M flare a week for the next 20 months. maybe a few X1s. Legit.'
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I'm guessing he was stoned when he typed that...makes no sense to me.

pump2bonghit
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No, he does not seem the type to write crap while stoned. Lol. He is an attorney and is not an alarmist in the least. His demeanor over time does not equate to someone that makes random or false statements.
 Quoting: Vesper33

i did read a paper about this several years ago...
this is not a stoner BS.
we need flares...CME not so much but the flares.

this was becoming a big concern several years ago when the SS number well drop to zero.

so now we are having very little amounted flares during the solar max and still getting pounded be CME and solar wind....and what ever hit yesterday.

filament and other eruptions seem to be driving this CME attack from the sun this year and not SS and flares.
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Right on target
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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A Comment from S0 under his most recent Post -

'If we have missed maximum, write this the f*** down... Doomsday is legit. We can't take any more collapse in the upper atmosphere. We need M and small X flares. We dont need hyder flares and X10s... but part of my EM video detailed the collapse and its why I think the F1 and D layers are overionized... and while I'm at it, with the new 'wave clouds' I'd have to say that ionization is getting lower. Let's hope we get about one M flare a week for the next 20 months. maybe a few X1s. Legit.'
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I'm guessing he was stoned when he typed that...makes no sense to me.

pump2bonghit
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No, he does not seem the type to write crap while stoned. Lol. He is an attorney and is not an alarmist in the least. His demeanor over time does not equate to someone that makes random or false statements.
 Quoting: Vesper33

i did read a paper about this several years ago...
this is not a stoner BS.
we need flares...CME not so much but the flares.

this was becoming a big concern several years ago when the SS number well drop to zero.

so now we are having very little amounted flares during the solar max and still getting pounded be CME and solar wind....and what ever hit yesterday.

filament and other eruptions seem to be driving this CME attack from the sun this year and not SS and flares.
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I'm not familiar with this subject... why do we need flares?
And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning: "That path leads ever down into stagnation."
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Another C-flare from our new/returning active region in the NE. A C2.2-we should have a good look at this region by this time tomorrow.

[link to lasp.colorado.edu]

AR1591 magnetogram shows a growing complexity and strength. If it continues to develop we may have our Earth-facing flare display everyone is clamoring for.

AR1591 Magnetogram-

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read this paper for a start
[link to star.arm.ac.uk]
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and this one
[link to arxiv.org]
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A Comment from S0 under his most recent Post -

'If we have missed maximum, write this the f*** down... Doomsday is legit. We can't take any more collapse in the upper atmosphere. We need M and small X flares. We dont need hyder flares and X10s... but part of my EM video detailed the collapse and its why I think the F1 and D layers are overionized... and while I'm at it, with the new 'wave clouds' I'd have to say that ionization is getting lower. Let's hope we get about one M flare a week for the next 20 months. maybe a few X1s. Legit.'
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I'm guessing he was stoned when he typed that...makes no sense to me.

pump2bonghit
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No, he does not seem the type to write crap while stoned. Lol. He is an attorney and is not an alarmist in the least. His demeanor over time does not equate to someone that makes random or false statements.
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First of all, MOST attorneys are potheads, LOL. Secondly, what's NOT alarmist about "...Doomsday is legit. We can't take any more collapse in the upper atmosphere." What collapse? This is news to me. We need some links and hard data, not hearsay from attorneys.

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[link to www.enchantedlearning.com]

it has to do with the chemical changes in the different layers of earths atmosphere.
cosmic rays will be always hitting us and then we get a CME shot or solar wind.
these are different from a flare. we know what they are...not just light but X rays.

funny i can not find the paper i read.....and all i find online now is DOOM from solar flares....they will do all kinds of bad things.

funny though when you read any of the actual articles they get into the damage coming from the CME.

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A Comment from S0 under his most recent Post -

'If we have missed maximum, write this the f*** down... Doomsday is legit. We can't take any more collapse in the upper atmosphere. We need M and small X flares. We dont need hyder flares and X10s... but part of my EM video detailed the collapse and its why I think the F1 and D layers are overionized... and while I'm at it, with the new 'wave clouds' I'd have to say that ionization is getting lower. Let's hope we get about one M flare a week for the next 20 months. maybe a few X1s. Legit.'
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I'm guessing he was stoned when he typed that...makes no sense to me.

pump2bonghit
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No, he does not seem the type to write crap while stoned. Lol. He is an attorney and is not an alarmist in the least. His demeanor over time does not equate to someone that makes random or false statements.
 Quoting: Vesper33


I've read alot of his theories and he's very in touch and in no way seems high and delusional.He uses nothing but hard data to arrive at most of his theories. The man studies charts, graphs, and doctrinated science facts. He's far from being a stoner he sees and then reports using his very far seeing mind with hard facts as a backing! Plus he looks at EVERYTHING going on not just solar data! You stare at the sun long enough you forget theres anything else

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yes we live on a planet in a very inter-connected solar system traveling though a even more inter-connect galaxy.....yup that galaxy is move though a greatly inter-connected universe.
we poor humans are just pushed and pulled all over this vast universe. by powers both seen and not seen.
some powers are known, but must are not!
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[link to www.enchantedlearning.com]

it has to do with the chemical changes in the different layers of earths atmosphere.
cosmic rays will be always hitting us and then we get a CME shot or solar wind.
these are different from a flare. we know what they are...not just light but X rays.

funny i can not find the paper i read.....and all i find online now is DOOM from solar flares....they will do all kinds of bad things.

funny though when you read any of the actual articles they get into the damage coming from the CME.
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Yep, I just did a search for "Earth needs solar flares" and all the articles were about threats and potential havoc, haha. I call bs on this for now. I know there are concerns about a prolonged minimum causing ice ages and stuff, but that's a different issue really.

[link to duckduckgo.com]
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A Comment from S0 under his most recent Post -

'If we have missed maximum, write this the f*** down... Doomsday is legit. We can't take any more collapse in the upper atmosphere. We need M and small X flares. We dont need hyder flares and X10s... but part of my EM video detailed the collapse and its why I think the F1 and D layers are overionized... and while I'm at it, with the new 'wave clouds' I'd have to say that ionization is getting lower. Let's hope we get about one M flare a week for the next 20 months. maybe a few X1s. Legit.'
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I'm guessing he was stoned when he typed that...makes no sense to me.

pump2bonghit
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No, he does not seem the type to write crap while stoned. Lol. He is an attorney and is not an alarmist in the least. His demeanor over time does not equate to someone that makes random or false statements.
 Quoting: Vesper33


I've read alot of his theories and he's very in touch and in no way seems high and delusional.He uses nothing but hard data to arrive at most of his theories. The man studies charts, graphs, and doctrinated science facts. He's far from being a stoner he sees and then reports using his very far seeing mind with hard facts as a backing! Plus he looks at EVERYTHING going on not just solar data! You stare at the sun long enough you forget theres anything else
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OK,OK , alright already! The guy's a physics saint who lawyers in his spare time, i got it. I blame Cesium for posting this stuff out of context with no links or attempt at explanation or discussion. To me it's garbage w/o more to back it up. Next topic.

whatever
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[link to www.enchantedlearning.com]

it has to do with the chemical changes in the different layers of earths atmosphere.
cosmic rays will be always hitting us and then we get a CME shot or solar wind.
these are different from a flare. we know what they are...not just light but X rays.

funny i can not find the paper i read.....and all i find online now is DOOM from solar flares....they will do all kinds of bad things.

funny though when you read any of the actual articles they get into the damage coming from the CME.
 Quoting: psyoptics


Yep, I just did a search for "Earth needs solar flares" and all the articles were about threats and potential havoc, haha. I call bs on this for now. I know there are concerns about a prolonged minimum causing ice ages and stuff, but that's a different issue really.

[link to duckduckgo.com]
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no no i did read several papers on this from 2002 through 2009.
i can not find those links...seems to be hidden online with all the flares are going to wipe us out BS. these we papers from large groups of international scientists.
but the best was from 2009 and it was about the lack of spots and flares and how our atmosphere needed the flares to...well clean house up there. it was like a build up from cosmic rays needed to be cleaned out.

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I'm guessing he was stoned when he typed that...makes no sense to me.

pump2bonghit
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No, he does not seem the type to write crap while stoned. Lol. He is an attorney and is not an alarmist in the least. His demeanor over time does not equate to someone that makes random or false statements.
 Quoting: Vesper33

i did read a paper about this several years ago...
this is not a stoner BS.
we need flares...CME not so much but the flares.

this was becoming a big concern several years ago when the SS number well drop to zero.

so now we are having very little amounted flares during the solar max and still getting pounded be CME and solar wind....and what ever hit yesterday.

filament and other eruptions seem to be driving this CME attack from the sun this year and not SS and flares.
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I'm not familiar with this subject... why do we need flares?
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Our Magnetosphere is charged via the Solar Wind/CMEs'/Flares..The thinking is that with lack of charge comes lack of circulation of Plasmas within the Plasmaspheres' that maintains a stronger Magnetosphere overall.
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No, he does not seem the type to write crap while stoned. Lol. He is an attorney and is not an alarmist in the least. His demeanor over time does not equate to someone that makes random or false statements.
 Quoting: Vesper33

i did read a paper about this several years ago...
this is not a stoner BS.
we need flares...CME not so much but the flares.

this was becoming a big concern several years ago when the SS number well drop to zero.

so now we are having very little amounted flares during the solar max and still getting pounded be CME and solar wind....and what ever hit yesterday.

filament and other eruptions seem to be driving this CME attack from the sun this year and not SS and flares.
 Quoting: psyoptics

I'm not familiar with this subject... why do we need flares?
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Our Magnetosphere is charged via the Solar Wind/CMEs'/Flares..The thinking is that with lack of charge comes lack of circulation of Plasmas within the Plasmaspheres' that maintains a stronger Magnetosphere overall.
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It's pretty simple really - Sheesh.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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A C 4.0 again from the same region...it's getting closer.

[link to lasp.colorado.edu]

Any budding space cadets out there? I just stumbled upon an orbital space flight simulator which uses real physics. It's a free download, too.

[link to orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk]

And you'll need this operator's manual:

[link to smithplanet.com]

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Here's a cool solar film clip from 1945 called the Grandaddy of Filament Eruptions. Enjoy.

[link to solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov]

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I'm guessing he was stoned when he typed that...makes no sense to me.

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No, he does not seem the type to write crap while stoned. Lol. He is an attorney and is not an alarmist in the least. His demeanor over time does not equate to someone that makes random or false statements.
 Quoting: Vesper33


I've read alot of his theories and he's very in touch and in no way seems high and delusional.He uses nothing but hard data to arrive at most of his theories. The man studies charts, graphs, and doctrinated science facts. He's far from being a stoner he sees and then reports using his very far seeing mind with hard facts as a backing! Plus he looks at EVERYTHING going on not just solar data! You stare at the sun long enough you forget theres anything else
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OK,OK , alright already! The guy's a physics saint who lawyers in his spare time, i got it. I blame Cesium for posting this stuff out of context with no links or attempt at explanation or discussion. To me it's garbage w/o more to back it up. Next topic.

whatever
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1rof1

Classic Hugh Hissy fit!
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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That made me chuckle.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Increased solar activity helps clean up man-made space junk in Earth orbit, but I can't find anything to support any other advantages besides pretty auroras and giving us some excitement on this thread.

[link to www.ips.gov.au]

I just get a little frustrated with all of these quicksand-like theories tossed around without any links or data to support them. One week the magnetosphere is crumbling, cracking, and weakening from high solar activity; the next it's suffering doom from a lack of activity.

Note: the "stoner" comment was meant as a joke and I apologize for stooping to GLP-style ad hominem attacks. Please forgive me, it's getting very late.

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The ACE protons plot mirrors the last two C-flares.....hmmm.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

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Increased solar activity helps clean up man-made space junk in Earth orbit, but I can't find anything to support any other advantages besides pretty auroras and giving us some excitement on this thread.

[link to www.ips.gov.au]

I just get a little frustrated with all of these quicksand-like theories tossed around without any links or data to support them. One week the magnetosphere is crumbling, cracking, and weakening from high solar activity; the next it's suffering doom from a lack of activity.

Note: the "stoner" comment was meant as a joke and I apologize for stooping to GLP-style ad hominem attacks. Please forgive me, it's getting very late.

:beaten:
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No problem with me at all.

I did answer as to why/how the Solar Wind etc. are thought to help drive our Magnetosphere above ^ ^ .

It's the same as Batteries Hugh,too low - dead battery,too high - you don't need me to tell you.
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The ACE protons plot mirrors the last two C-flares.....hmmm.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

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And we gots a CME [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] .
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The ACE protons plot mirrors the last two C-flares.....hmmm.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

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And we gots a CME [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] .
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no no i did read several papers on this from 2002 through 2009.
i can not find those links...seems to be hidden online with all the flares are going to wipe us out BS. these we papers from large groups of international scientists.
but the best was from 2009 and it was about the lack of spots and flares and how our atmosphere needed the flares to...well clean house up there. it was like a build up from cosmic rays needed to be cleaned out.
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Thanks for the info & links. So basically solar X-ray flares can help counter the negative influence of cosmic rays. Interesting!
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Our two new regions have come over the limb now; one north and one south.

Latest HMI Intensitygram:

[link to jsoc.stanford.edu]

Latest AIA 171 image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

I have to sleep so we can get at least an M-flare or two. Goodnight Sun-gang.
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Our two new regions have come over the limb now; one north and one south.

Latest HMI Intensitygram:

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Latest AIA 171 image:

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I have to sleep so we can get at least an M-flare or two. Goodnight Sun-gang.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Good Night Sol Bro'.

Rest Well.
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
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No, he does not seem the type to write crap while stoned. Lol. He is an attorney and is not an alarmist in the least. His demeanor over time does not equate to someone that makes random or false statements.
 Quoting: Vesper33

i did read a paper about this several years ago...
this is not a stoner BS.
we need flares...CME not so much but the flares.

this was becoming a big concern several years ago when the SS number well drop to zero.

so now we are having very little amounted flares during the solar max and still getting pounded be CME and solar wind....and what ever hit yesterday.

filament and other eruptions seem to be driving this CME attack from the sun this year and not SS and flares.
 Quoting: psyoptics

I'm not familiar with this subject... why do we need flares?
 Quoting: madajs


Our Magnetosphere is charged via the Solar Wind/CMEs'/Flares..The thinking is that with lack of charge comes lack of circulation of Plasmas within the Plasmaspheres' that maintains a stronger Magnetosphere overall.
 Quoting: SCizE? 14589973


Increased solar activity helps clean up man-made space junk in Earth orbit, but I can't find anything to support any other advantages besides pretty auroras and giving us some excitement on this thread.

[link to www.ips.gov.au]

I just get a little frustrated with all of these quicksand-like theories tossed around without any links or data to support them. One week the magnetosphere is crumbling, cracking, and weakening from high solar activity; the next it's suffering doom from a lack of activity.

Note: the "stoner" comment was meant as a joke and I apologize for stooping to GLP-style ad hominem attacks. Please forgive me, it's getting very late.

:beaten:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


No problem with me at all.

I did answer as to why/how the Solar Wind etc. are thought to help drive our Magnetosphere above ^ ^ .

It's the same as Batteries Hugh,too low - dead battery,too high - you don't need me to tell you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14589973


Just to explain a little further for those who were a little miffed by 'Why do we need Solar Energy to help power our Magnetosphere',here -

'Our planet is connected with our sun with more than light. In this picture, it appears the sun and earth are connected by the stream of charged particles that come from the sun. The Sun produces a hot gas that travels through space at a million miles per hour, carrying particles and magnetism outward past the planets called the solar wind. In essence, the Earth is immersed in the Sun's atmosphere. Changes on the Sun affect the solar wind flow; for example, solar flares, which are explosions associated with sunspots, cause strong gusts of solar wind.

The space around our atmosphere is alive and dynamic because the Earth's magnetic field reacts to changes in the solar wind. The interaction between the solar wind and the plasma of the magnetosphere acts like an electric generator, creating electric fields deep inside the magnetosphere. These fields in turn give rise to a general circulation of the plasma within the magnetosphere and accelerate some electrons and ions to higher energies.

During periods of gusty solar wind when the sun is very active with solar flares and coronal mass ejections, powerful magnetic storms in space near the Earth cause vivid auroras, radio and television static, power blackouts, navigation problems for ships and airplanes with magnetic compasses, and damage to satellites and spacecraft. Although the total solar irradiance is increased only slightly, the solar winds caused by the active sun interact with the earth's magnetosphere which also triggers changes in the electrical and chemical properties of the atmosphere, the ozone layer, and high-altitude temperatures and wind patterns.'

'As more research is done, scientists are realizing the sun plays a critical role in controlling earth's climate. Solar winds are also known to push back or dampen cosmic radiation originating from super novas in deep space. There is a significant correlation between the amount of cosmic radiation entering the earth’s surface and the amount of low elevation cloud formation. The more cosmic radiation the more low elevation clouds that are formed. The more clouds, the greater the amount of solar energy that is reflected back into space, and the earth cools. When the sun is very active and there is a lot of solar wind, there is less cosmic radiation reaching earth, fewer low elevation clouds are formed, and the earth warms. This relationship itself can account for most of the warming in the twentieth century. As we start the 21st century, the reverse is happening. The sun has been extraordinarily quiet and scientists have found the solar winds have declined to the lowest levels ever measured. This should cause the earth to start cooling, which it did starting in 2007'.

Read more here [link to www.globalwarmingclassroom.info] its' not a confusing data laden page so all should find it a little helpful.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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