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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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1598 again. Wonder how it will do as it turned fully facing earth?
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Yup [link to lasp.colorado.edu]

The real question is, will we like it either way ???

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Agreed. Didn't really like how we almost had an X-flare yesterday, just out of the blue. Just boom and not many of us have been watching for those as much as usual. Makes me feel a little like....
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Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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To busy posting should be reading, good catch TS, didn't notice you already posted.
Nice to hear you and Nin sharing info, good conversation!
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[link to lasp.colorado.edu]


1598 looks to be very energetic,will be nice to get a better view tomorrow.

1596 still has some crackle to it also.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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That prominence? in the southwestern limb is sure pretty but it needs to turn on around to backside before letting loose.
Isaiah 5:20 KJV
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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Good morning everyone hf


Coming around the limb 1598 is certainly showing some chutzpah in the last day and a half or so.

C1.8 C2.4 M9.0 C2.7 C7.8 C5.6

:102112:
 Quoting: TS66


Looking at this pic, I have to scratch my head again as I still don't understand the classifications. It shows it has an A-class [link to www.solarham.net]

To me it looks like it is at least BG and approaching BGD. Can someone explain, using only the above pic, why this is only an A-class?
Isaiah 5:20 KJV
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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Good morning everyone hf


Coming around the limb 1598 is certainly showing some chutzpah in the last day and a half or so.

C1.8 C2.4 M9.0 C2.7 C7.8 C5.6

:102112:
 Quoting: TS66


Looking at this pic, I have to scratch my head again as I still don't understand the classifications. It shows it has an A-class [link to www.solarham.net]

To me it looks like it is at least BG and approaching BGD. Can someone explain, using only the above pic, why this is only an A-class?
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They update the class of sunspots very slowly and patiently :)
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whiteangel,
hope this link helps with understanding sunspot classification

[link to www.spaceweatherlive.com]
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[link to lasp.colorado.edu]


1598 looks to be very energetic,will be nice to get a better view tomorrow.

1596 still has some crackle to it also.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
 Quoting: shadasonic


That prominence? in the southwestern limb is sure pretty but it needs to turn on around to backside before letting loose.
 Quoting: whiteangel


If that released the wrong way it still could be very geoeffective.

I'd say that spots BG, but could use a better look. They take their time on adjusting cassifications
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Good morning everyone hf


Coming around the limb 1598 is certainly showing some chutzpah in the last day and a half or so.

C1.8 C2.4 M9.0 C2.7 C7.8 C5.6

:102112:
 Quoting: TS66


Looking at this pic, I have to scratch my head again as I still don't understand the classifications. It shows it has an A-class [link to www.solarham.net]

To me it looks like it is at least BG and approaching BGD. Can someone explain, using only the above pic, why this is only an A-class?
 Quoting: whiteangel


They update the class of sunspots very slowly and patiently :)
 Quoting: Kael


whiteangel,
hope this link helps with understanding sunspot classification

[link to www.spaceweatherlive.com]
 Quoting: mtn_mang


Thank you guys...I will see if I can figure it out a bit more. It seems it is a B and with the blue on both sides of the red this would make it BG at the least. LOL I think.
Isaiah 5:20 KJV
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[link to lasp.colorado.edu]


1598 looks to be very energetic,will be nice to get a better view tomorrow.

1596 still has some crackle to it also.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
 Quoting: shadasonic


That prominence? in the southwestern limb is sure pretty but it needs to turn on around to backside before letting loose.
 Quoting: whiteangel


If that released the wrong way it still could be very geoeffective.

I'd say that spots BG, but could use a better look. They take their time on adjusting cassifications
 Quoting: shadasonic


I was a slower poster and didn't see your post also Shad. TY
Isaiah 5:20 KJV
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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Good morning everyone hf


Coming around the limb 1598 is certainly showing some chutzpah in the last day and a half or so.

C1.8 C2.4 M9.0 C2.7 C7.8 C5.6

:102112:
 Quoting: TS66


Looking at this pic, I have to scratch my head again as I still don't understand the classifications. It shows it has an A-class [link to www.solarham.net]

To me it looks like it is at least BG and approaching BGD. Can someone explain, using only the above pic, why this is only an A-class?
 Quoting: whiteangel


They update the class of sunspots very slowly and patiently :)
 Quoting: Kael


yeah they waite till they are turned our direction really good usually before giving a realistic class to sunspots
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I don't have the time to listen to it at present but I will give the chap a go later..I'll save it for my Bedtime Listening and then come back and tell you my thoughts on his thoughts : )
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Look forward to it.. there is also an interview i listened to from project camelot with him from 2009 which was filled with really good info about his research

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Wow,this looked very powerful,what-ever it was that caused it -


[link to www.youtube.com]

'This is a city council meeting in Maine during the "earthquake" that everybody said sounded like an explosion'.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


SC you seem to be going somewhere here???????

on this whole wave...fluff, or what ever.......

look back to the old space discover Halley!
before the known comet!
snip
About 200 years ago Sir Edmund Halley discovered an anomaly in space around the stars of the Pleiades. A hundred years later Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel confirmed Halley's findings. In 1961 Paul Otto Hesse defined and measured this anomaly. It's an energy ring of incredible size, 760 thousand billion miles wide, and is due to intersect the earth just about any minute now. He also calculated that this is part of a 25,000-year-long cycle that our solar system goes through.
[link to www.straightdope.com]
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Wow,this looked very powerful,what-ever it was that caused it -


[link to www.youtube.com]

'This is a city council meeting in Maine during the "earthquake" that everybody said sounded like an explosion'.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


SC you seem to be going somewhere here???????

on this whole wave...fluff, or what ever.......

look back to the old space discover Halley!
before the known comet!
snip
About 200 years ago Sir Edmund Halley discovered an anomaly in space around the stars of the Pleiades. A hundred years later Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel confirmed Halley's findings. In 1961 Paul Otto Hesse defined and measured this anomaly. It's an energy ring of incredible size, 760 thousand billion miles wide, and is due to intersect the earth just about any minute now. He also calculated that this is part of a 25,000-year-long cycle that our solar system goes through.
[link to www.straightdope.com]
 Quoting: psyoptics


Now thats extremely interesting,and would connect alot of dots, the part about Paul Otto Hesse

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Certainly looking more complex than an A.

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looks like a CME on lasco [link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]
And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning: "That path leads ever down into stagnation."
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Certainly looking more complex than an A.

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here is the latest SDO magnetogram
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
it is easier to tell the sunspot class on the magnetogram i think
by the looks of it, i would say they will be classing this a BGD (beta-gamma-delta) sunspot region very soon
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Certainly looking more complex than an A.

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here is the latest SDO magnetogram
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
it is easier to tell the sunspot class on the magnetogram i think
by the looks of it, i would say they will be classing this a BGD (beta-gamma-delta) sunspot region very soon
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and i just looked at the movie for today of this region
recently there is some negative groth in the leading edge
we might be in for another M sometime soon if this continues
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looks like a CME on lasco [link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Nice series M! looks like a nice one
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Certainly looking more complex than an A.

:sr1598:
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here is the latest SDO magnetogram
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
it is easier to tell the sunspot class on the magnetogram i think
by the looks of it, i would say they will be classing this a BGD (beta-gamma-delta) sunspot region very soon
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I agree, but mine is prettier .... lol !!!

wink
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Effect of Geomagnetic Disturbances on Biological Function

For a number of years, scientists have been aware of the constantly changing magnetic fields on the earth. They have been studying the impact on human health and behavior.

Local magnetic fields are altered during thunderstorms while fluctuating magnetic fields from outer space (sunspots, solar flares, moon phases, etc.) episodically jar the earth.

When the sun flares jar the earth's magnetic fields, they produce a higher rate of positive magnetic energy to negative magnetic energy. When such invisible subtle changes in the geomagnetic field occur, prople develop symptoms.

In addition, researchers have noted an increase in heart attack rates during periods of geomagnetic disturbance. The population so affected at such times (either physically or mentally) is at high risk in a precarious negative-positive balance pre-existing the incident.
Read more: [link to www.superdocdc.com]



The Healing Phenomenon of the Earth’s Electrons

Kelly Pepper, D.C. explains that the flow of energy between our bodies and Mother Earth works to support the various systems in our body and scavenge up free radicals that promote inflammation. “Our planet has a negative electrical potential that is generated by solar winds, our ionosphere, and lightning storms,” she says. “When our skin is in direct contact with the earth we maintain the same electrical potential as our planet. This phenomenon has been occurring mostly without interference up until the last several generations.”

Now, however, most people always wear shoes outdoors. Most shoes have thick soles that block the natural flow of electrons. Most modern people rarely make direct skin contact with the Earth.


What is an “Earthing Program?”

Earthing (also called grounding) means reconnecting your body with the free electrons that flow through the Earth’s surface. It can be as simple, easy, and free as walking barefoot outdoors.
Read more: [link to undergroundhealthreporter.com]

Dr. Budwig indicates that a balanced diet of essential fatty acids would keep our cells biologically electron rich. Saturated fats and trans-fats , which make up the vast majority of the food oils we now use alter the electronic charge of the unsaturated oils in cell membranes, decreasing the cells ability to store and receive electrons from the sun. Budwig goes on to quote quantum physicist Dessauer: “If it were possible to increase the concentration of solar electrons tenfold in this biological electron rich molecule, man would live to be 10,000 years old.”
Read more: [link to www.alchemylab.com]


other related links:
[link to www.drsinatra.com]
[link to www.earthinginstitute.net]
[link to www.earthing.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Very interesting post ...

I've been a barefoot girl all my life, and to be honest, to get them clean in the summer takes a good long soak !!!! I so hate wearing shoes !!!!

Thunderstorms however give an incredible sense of invincibility. I don't understand it, but again, all my life there is nothing more invigorating (at least for me) than a huge electrical storm.

Perhaps the 2 are connected.
 Quoting: TS66

Im the exact same! always barefoot and never inside where there is a big storm
i get excited like a little kid when a big storm comes in
i believe it is all related and innerconnected :)
remember this report?
[link to science.nasa.gov]

on thundarstorms and electrons
"The charge separation has an electric field associated with it. Like the cloud, this field is negative in the lower region and positive in the upper region. The strength or intensity of the electric field is directly related to the amount of charge build-up in the cloud. As the collisions and freezing continue to occur, and the charges at the top and bottom of the cloud increase, the electric field becomes more and more intense -- so intense, in fact, that the electrons at the Earth's surface are repelled deeper into the Earth by the negative charge at the lower portion of the cloud. This repulsion of electrons causes the Earth's surface to acquire a strong positive charge."
[link to science.howstuffworks.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Wow! Thank you for a great read here! I too can't stand shoes (I do not own very many pairs lol) and love a mean thundrstorm. It's like Christmas to me for some reason!
Thanks again!

hf
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Here comes the beast [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] .

Solar Guardian,may I ask - Why so much Solar Doom threads all the time Bro'/Sis'?
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Look how close to the equator....
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What do you mean Isis?
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Oh sorry, too cryptic... just meant look how close to the equator the suspot coming around the eastern limb is, I'm used to seeing them down at the lower latitude.
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III. Event Probabilities 22 Oct-24 Oct
Class M 60/60/60
Class X 05/05/05
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there was a CME with this last M flare
[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]

STEREO A and B have not updates since around 16:00 UTC today
thats around 7-8 hrs ago
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

i think its kinda cool how we can see ripples of a wave coming from the suns direction in the recent Ahead HI2 images
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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there was a CME with this last M flare
[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]

STEREO A and B have not updates since around 16:00 UTC today
thats around 7-8 hrs ago
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

i think its kinda cool how we can see ripples of a wave coming from the suns direction in the recent Ahead HI2 images
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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So it's earth directed ?
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there was a CME with this last M flare
[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]

STEREO A and B have not updates since around 16:00 UTC today
thats around 7-8 hrs ago
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

i think its kinda cool how we can see ripples of a wave coming from the suns direction in the recent Ahead HI2 images
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez 24399306


So it's earth directed ?
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not quite sure just yet where it came from
gona finish dinner here then sit down to look through to see if it was for sure from 1598 with the last M, or if it was a filament
cause we sure have quite a few of them right now
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there was a CME with this last M flare
[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]

STEREO A and B have not updates since around 16:00 UTC today
thats around 7-8 hrs ago
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

i think its kinda cool how we can see ripples of a wave coming from the suns direction in the recent Ahead HI2 images
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez 24399306


So it's earth directed ?
 Quoting: TS66


not quite sure just yet where it came from
gona finish dinner here then sit down to look through to see if it was for sure from 1598 with the last M, or if it was a filament
cause we sure have quite a few of them right now
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Ignore my last post

Totally different timestamp .... sorry
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Darn GLP effect
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Remember the apparent reversal of the Magnetopause around March 12th?

It only just clicked that it was only a few Days prior to this that our Sun let off a 20 Hour Long Gamma Ray Burst on March 7th [link to www.nasa.gov] I'm now wondering about a possible link that could have caused both events.

Here is the Magnetpause/sphere 'reversal' -


[link to www.youtube.com]

For all intent and purpose it appears that this did actually happen - I need to do some more thinking.
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Excellent sleuthing my dear Watson....how could we not have correlated this at the time???
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Remember the apparent reversal of the Magnetopause around March 12th?

It only just clicked that it was only a few Days prior to this that our Sun let off a 20 Hour Long Gamma Ray Burst on March 7th [link to www.nasa.gov] I'm now wondering about a possible link that could have caused both events.

Here is the Magnetpause/sphere 'reversal' -


[link to www.youtube.com]

For all intent and purpose it appears that this did actually happen - I need to do some more thinking.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Props to El'Q for even imagining such a event(GRB)from our own Sun a Year before it actually happened and taking a load of slack from the posters in this Thread - Thread: GAMMA RAY BURST FROM SUN POSSIBLE DATE OF 09/27/2011 (9/11)

: )

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 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


^^^^^^^^^^ Kuddos El'Q
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GLP