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SOLAR WATCH * M2.4 Solar Flare July 14 2017! Earth directed CME (Updated Daily)

 
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you guys see metero scan in the last few hours?
[link to www.meteorscan.com]

Thread: frequency of human voice received on meteor live view ?

i have never seen this pattern on metero scan before
wtf is causing this? any ideas???
 Quoting: NiNzrez 24399306


The Meteor Scanner also picks Atmospheric Anomalies as well as the Meteors - I remember reading about it and how to tell the difference between a Meteor signature/Exited Atmosphere - I can't quite remember how to tell but this certainly looks to be Atmospheric in origin due to the specific frequency and persistence(I would have thought that is how you tell the difference) - Meteors leave those classic long and sometimes wide spikes that can be recognized to be falling due to the difference in pitch represented by the colour diffrences.

At least I think that is correct : ?

I really should sleep,I bet when I post this now it makes little sense,here goes.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


i remember you saying that the other day
but im having a hard time finding this info
 Quoting: NiNzrez


This site is linked out of the 'Meteor Scanner' website [link to www.hamqsl.com] under the 'Radio Propagation' banner.

Should help.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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you guys see metero scan in the last few hours?
[link to www.meteorscan.com]

Thread: frequency of human voice received on meteor live view ?

i have never seen this pattern on metero scan before
wtf is causing this? any ideas???
 Quoting: NiNzrez 24399306


The Meteor Scanner also picks Atmospheric Anomalies as well as the Meteors - I remember reading about it and how to tell the difference between a Meteor signature/Exited Atmosphere - I can't quite remember how to tell but this certainly looks to be Atmospheric in origin due to the specific frequency and persistence(I would have thought that is how you tell the difference) - Meteors leave those classic long and sometimes wide spikes that can be recognized to be falling due to the difference in pitch represented by the colour diffrences.

At least I think that is correct : ?

I really should sleep,I bet when I post this now it makes little sense,here goes.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


i remember you saying that the other day
but im having a hard time finding this info
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Here -

'Solar activity plays a major role in radio communications. We carry out experiments on various wavelengths examining the relationship between Solar activity and Radio Communications. In addition we also experiment with radio wave meteor scatter and sometimes communicate with other radio stations over thousands of miles using these reflected radio waves.


We utilise two main sites for ionospheric propagation testing and observations. The Observatory at Sidmouth and another site near Ventnor Radar Station on the Isle of Wight.


The meteor radar detection system is also useful for predicting VHF tropospheric propagation. Look for a continuous trace. The continuous wave carrier is received directly during enhanced tropospheric and sporadic-E propagation conditions'. [link to www.meteorscan.com]
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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you guys see metero scan in the last few hours?
[link to www.meteorscan.com]

Thread: frequency of human voice received on meteor live view ?

i have never seen this pattern on metero scan before
wtf is causing this? any ideas???
 Quoting: NiNzrez 24399306


The Meteor Scanner also picks Atmospheric Anomalies as well as the Meteors - I remember reading about it and how to tell the difference between a Meteor signature/Exited Atmosphere - I can't quite remember how to tell but this certainly looks to be Atmospheric in origin due to the specific frequency and persistence(I would have thought that is how you tell the difference) - Meteors leave those classic long and sometimes wide spikes that can be recognized to be falling due to the difference in pitch represented by the colour diffrences.

At least I think that is correct : ?

I really should sleep,I bet when I post this now it makes little sense,here goes.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


i remember you saying that the other day
but im having a hard time finding this info
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Here -

'Solar activity plays a major role in radio communications. We carry out experiments on various wavelengths examining the relationship between Solar activity and Radio Communications. In addition we also experiment with radio wave meteor scatter and sometimes communicate with other radio stations over thousands of miles using these reflected radio waves.


We utilise two main sites for ionospheric propagation testing and observations. The Observatory at Sidmouth and another site near Ventnor Radar Station on the Isle of Wight.


The meteor radar detection system is also useful for predicting VHF tropospheric propagation. Look for a continuous trace. The continuous wave carrier is received directly during enhanced tropospheric and sporadic-E propagation conditions'. [link to www.meteorscan.com]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


excelent!
thanks SC :)
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you guys see metero scan in the last few hours?
[link to www.meteorscan.com]

Thread: frequency of human voice received on meteor live view ?

i have never seen this pattern on metero scan before
wtf is causing this? any ideas???
 Quoting: NiNzrez 24399306


The Meteor Scanner also picks Atmospheric Anomalies as well as the Meteors - I remember reading about it and how to tell the difference between a Meteor signature/Exited Atmosphere - I can't quite remember how to tell but this certainly looks to be Atmospheric in origin due to the specific frequency and persistence(I would have thought that is how you tell the difference) - Meteors leave those classic long and sometimes wide spikes that can be recognized to be falling due to the difference in pitch represented by the colour diffrences.

At least I think that is correct : ?

I really should sleep,I bet when I post this now it makes little sense,here goes.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


i remember you saying that the other day
but im having a hard time finding this info
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Here -

'Solar activity plays a major role in radio communications. We carry out experiments on various wavelengths examining the relationship between Solar activity and Radio Communications. In addition we also experiment with radio wave meteor scatter and sometimes communicate with other radio stations over thousands of miles using these reflected radio waves.


We utilise two main sites for ionospheric propagation testing and observations. The Observatory at Sidmouth and another site near Ventnor Radar Station on the Isle of Wight.


The meteor radar detection system is also useful for predicting VHF tropospheric propagation. Look for a continuous trace. The continuous wave carrier is received directly during enhanced tropospheric and sporadic-E propagation conditions'. [link to www.meteorscan.com]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Sporadic-E propagation is caused by patches of intense ionization in the E-layer of the ionosphere
Tropo propagation is caused by temperature inversions in the troposphere, the region of the atmosphere closest to Earth where all weather takes place
[link to www.dxing.com]
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The Meteor Scanner also picks Atmospheric Anomalies as well as the Meteors - I remember reading about it and how to tell the difference between a Meteor signature/Exited Atmosphere - I can't quite remember how to tell but this certainly looks to be Atmospheric in origin due to the specific frequency and persistence(I would have thought that is how you tell the difference) - Meteors leave those classic long and sometimes wide spikes that can be recognized to be falling due to the difference in pitch represented by the colour diffrences.

At least I think that is correct : ?

I really should sleep,I bet when I post this now it makes little sense,here goes.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


i remember you saying that the other day
but im having a hard time finding this info
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Here -

'Solar activity plays a major role in radio communications. We carry out experiments on various wavelengths examining the relationship between Solar activity and Radio Communications. In addition we also experiment with radio wave meteor scatter and sometimes communicate with other radio stations over thousands of miles using these reflected radio waves.


We utilise two main sites for ionospheric propagation testing and observations. The Observatory at Sidmouth and another site near Ventnor Radar Station on the Isle of Wight.


The meteor radar detection system is also useful for predicting VHF tropospheric propagation. Look for a continuous trace. The continuous wave carrier is received directly during enhanced tropospheric and sporadic-E propagation conditions'. [link to www.meteorscan.com]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


excelent!
thanks SC :)
 Quoting: NiNzrez


No problem at all Ninz : )

We both scratch each others backs.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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The Meteor Scanner also picks Atmospheric Anomalies as well as the Meteors - I remember reading about it and how to tell the difference between a Meteor signature/Exited Atmosphere - I can't quite remember how to tell but this certainly looks to be Atmospheric in origin due to the specific frequency and persistence(I would have thought that is how you tell the difference) - Meteors leave those classic long and sometimes wide spikes that can be recognized to be falling due to the difference in pitch represented by the colour diffrences.

At least I think that is correct : ?

I really should sleep,I bet when I post this now it makes little sense,here goes.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


i remember you saying that the other day
but im having a hard time finding this info
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Here -

'Solar activity plays a major role in radio communications. We carry out experiments on various wavelengths examining the relationship between Solar activity and Radio Communications. In addition we also experiment with radio wave meteor scatter and sometimes communicate with other radio stations over thousands of miles using these reflected radio waves.


We utilise two main sites for ionospheric propagation testing and observations. The Observatory at Sidmouth and another site near Ventnor Radar Station on the Isle of Wight.


The meteor radar detection system is also useful for predicting VHF tropospheric propagation. Look for a continuous trace. The continuous wave carrier is received directly during enhanced tropospheric and sporadic-E propagation conditions'. [link to www.meteorscan.com]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Sporadic-E propagation is caused by patches of intense ionization in the E-layer of the ionosphere
Tropo propagation is caused by temperature inversions in the troposphere, the region of the atmosphere closest to Earth where all weather takes place
[link to www.dxing.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


it would appear that this is what were seeing. so now the question... what is causing this? No large soar flares since the X in the beginning hours of today
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The Meteor Scanner also picks Atmospheric Anomalies as well as the Meteors - I remember reading about it and how to tell the difference between a Meteor signature/Exited Atmosphere - I can't quite remember how to tell but this certainly looks to be Atmospheric in origin due to the specific frequency and persistence(I would have thought that is how you tell the difference) - Meteors leave those classic long and sometimes wide spikes that can be recognized to be falling due to the difference in pitch represented by the colour diffrences.

At least I think that is correct : ?

I really should sleep,I bet when I post this now it makes little sense,here goes.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


i remember you saying that the other day
but im having a hard time finding this info
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Here -

'Solar activity plays a major role in radio communications. We carry out experiments on various wavelengths examining the relationship between Solar activity and Radio Communications. In addition we also experiment with radio wave meteor scatter and sometimes communicate with other radio stations over thousands of miles using these reflected radio waves.


We utilise two main sites for ionospheric propagation testing and observations. The Observatory at Sidmouth and another site near Ventnor Radar Station on the Isle of Wight.


The meteor radar detection system is also useful for predicting VHF tropospheric propagation. Look for a continuous trace. The continuous wave carrier is received directly during enhanced tropospheric and sporadic-E propagation conditions'. [link to www.meteorscan.com]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Sporadic-E propagation is caused by patches of intense ionization in the E-layer of the ionosphere
Tropo propagation is caused by temperature inversions in the troposphere, the region of the atmosphere closest to Earth where all weather takes place
[link to www.dxing.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


A very handy tool all round hey!?

We could give great forecasts by combining the TEC with knowledge of where we have Coupling between the different layers of the Atmosphere - There is a lot of potential in there for sure.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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i remember you saying that the other day
but im having a hard time finding this info
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Here -

'Solar activity plays a major role in radio communications. We carry out experiments on various wavelengths examining the relationship between Solar activity and Radio Communications. In addition we also experiment with radio wave meteor scatter and sometimes communicate with other radio stations over thousands of miles using these reflected radio waves.


We utilise two main sites for ionospheric propagation testing and observations. The Observatory at Sidmouth and another site near Ventnor Radar Station on the Isle of Wight.


The meteor radar detection system is also useful for predicting VHF tropospheric propagation. Look for a continuous trace. The continuous wave carrier is received directly during enhanced tropospheric and sporadic-E propagation conditions'. [link to www.meteorscan.com]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Sporadic-E propagation is caused by patches of intense ionization in the E-layer of the ionosphere
Tropo propagation is caused by temperature inversions in the troposphere, the region of the atmosphere closest to Earth where all weather takes place
[link to www.dxing.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


it would appear that this is what were seeing. so now the question... what is causing this? No large soar flares since the X in the beginning hours of today
 Quoting: NiNzrez


It would take time to convect perhaps?

Or we could be seeing 'Action at a Distance' effects?

Or it could be coupling of the Atmospheres after the squidged Magnetopause earlier(the Sims).

I don't know enough about this yet,but it really has awesome potential for forecasting both Near Space and Ground Weather.

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 10/23/2012 07:17 PM
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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i remember you saying that the other day
but im having a hard time finding this info
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Here -

'Solar activity plays a major role in radio communications. We carry out experiments on various wavelengths examining the relationship between Solar activity and Radio Communications. In addition we also experiment with radio wave meteor scatter and sometimes communicate with other radio stations over thousands of miles using these reflected radio waves.


We utilise two main sites for ionospheric propagation testing and observations. The Observatory at Sidmouth and another site near Ventnor Radar Station on the Isle of Wight.


The meteor radar detection system is also useful for predicting VHF tropospheric propagation. Look for a continuous trace. The continuous wave carrier is received directly during enhanced tropospheric and sporadic-E propagation conditions'. [link to www.meteorscan.com]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Sporadic-E propagation is caused by patches of intense ionization in the E-layer of the ionosphere
Tropo propagation is caused by temperature inversions in the troposphere, the region of the atmosphere closest to Earth where all weather takes place
[link to www.dxing.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


A very handy tool all round hey!?

We could give great forecasts by combining the TEC with knowledge of where we have Coupling between the different layers of the Atmosphere - There is a lot of potential in there for sure.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


i agree :)
i found this part very interesting
Sporadic-E propagation is caused by patches of intense ionization in the E-layer of the ionosphere (approximately 35 to 60 miles above the Earth's surface). Signals on frequencies above 30 MHz normally pass through the ionosphere and into space. However, sporadic-E "clouds" are capable of refracting such signals back to Earth. The term "clouds" is an apt way to describe the patches of highly charged particles that form during a sporadic-E event. Like clouds, these patches move and are highly irregular in size and shape. It is possible to track the movement of a sporadic-E "cloud" by noting the locations of stations that fade in and out on a frequency as the cloud moves. [link to www.dxing.com]

so i looked up sporatic e clouds and found a real time map
[link to www.dxmaps.com]
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The relationship between the formation of temperate-zone sporadic-E and solar geophysical conditions are still debated. Most researchers have held that there is no clear correlation between the sunspot cycle and sporadic-E formation that compares with close association between F-layer and solar conditions. Some recent work has suggested that this may not be the case, and that low solar activity, whether measured as solar flux (sunspot number) or short term geomagnetic conditions (planetary A and K indexes), are most favourable for temperate-zone sporadic-E formation.
[link to www.uksmg.org]

Unlike F-layer propagation, mid-latitude sporadic E does not appear to be correlated with the solar cycle. F-layer propagation at HF is caused by the presence of free electrons. In the E layer ions are also important, principally O+, O++, NO+, Fe+, Mg+. The ionisation is caused by solar radiation.
[link to www.mike-willis.com]
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Here -

'Solar activity plays a major role in radio communications. We carry out experiments on various wavelengths examining the relationship between Solar activity and Radio Communications. In addition we also experiment with radio wave meteor scatter and sometimes communicate with other radio stations over thousands of miles using these reflected radio waves.


We utilise two main sites for ionospheric propagation testing and observations. The Observatory at Sidmouth and another site near Ventnor Radar Station on the Isle of Wight.


The meteor radar detection system is also useful for predicting VHF tropospheric propagation. Look for a continuous trace. The continuous wave carrier is received directly during enhanced tropospheric and sporadic-E propagation conditions'. [link to www.meteorscan.com]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Sporadic-E propagation is caused by patches of intense ionization in the E-layer of the ionosphere
Tropo propagation is caused by temperature inversions in the troposphere, the region of the atmosphere closest to Earth where all weather takes place
[link to www.dxing.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


A very handy tool all round hey!?

We could give great forecasts by combining the TEC with knowledge of where we have Coupling between the different layers of the Atmosphere - There is a lot of potential in there for sure.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


i agree :)
i found this part very interesting
Sporadic-E propagation is caused by patches of intense ionization in the E-layer of the ionosphere (approximately 35 to 60 miles above the Earth's surface). Signals on frequencies above 30 MHz normally pass through the ionosphere and into space. However, sporadic-E "clouds" are capable of refracting such signals back to Earth. The term "clouds" is an apt way to describe the patches of highly charged particles that form during a sporadic-E event. Like clouds, these patches move and are highly irregular in size and shape. It is possible to track the movement of a sporadic-E "cloud" by noting the locations of stations that fade in and out on a frequency as the cloud moves. [link to www.dxing.com]

so i looked up sporatic e clouds and found a real time map
[link to www.dxmaps.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


cheer

That is awesome stuff!
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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The relationship between the formation of temperate-zone sporadic-E and solar geophysical conditions are still debated. Most researchers have held that there is no clear correlation between the sunspot cycle and sporadic-E formation that compares with close association between F-layer and solar conditions. Some recent work has suggested that this may not be the case, and that low solar activity, whether measured as solar flux (sunspot number) or short term geomagnetic conditions (planetary A and K indexes), are most favourable for temperate-zone sporadic-E formation.
[link to www.uksmg.org]

Unlike F-layer propagation, mid-latitude sporadic E does not appear to be correlated with the solar cycle. F-layer propagation at HF is caused by the presence of free electrons. In the E layer ions are also important, principally O+, O++, NO+, Fe+, Mg+. The ionisation is caused by solar radiation.
[link to www.mike-willis.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


The Critical F Layers gets a mention.

That's some very handy,handy informtion!

Need to pass this on to S0.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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The relationship between the formation of temperate-zone sporadic-E and solar geophysical conditions are still debated. Most researchers have held that there is no clear correlation between the sunspot cycle and sporadic-E formation that compares with close association between F-layer and solar conditions. Some recent work has suggested that this may not be the case, and that low solar activity, whether measured as solar flux (sunspot number) or short term geomagnetic conditions (planetary A and K indexes), are most favourable for temperate-zone sporadic-E formation.
[link to www.uksmg.org]

Unlike F-layer propagation, mid-latitude sporadic E does not appear to be correlated with the solar cycle. F-layer propagation at HF is caused by the presence of free electrons. In the E layer ions are also important, principally O+, O++, NO+, Fe+, Mg+. The ionisation is caused by solar radiation.
[link to www.mike-willis.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


The Critical F Layers gets a mention.

That's some very handy,handy informtion!

Need to pass this on to S0.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


hmm even more interesting
Sporadic E layer (Es layer) is a thin layer (usually less than 1 mile thick) with limited horizontal extent (tens of miles) in the E-region having enhanced electron density similar to that of the F-region and hence causes reflection at lower altitude of radio waves normally reflected by the F-region. One source of sporadic E is the ionized trail of a meteor. Sporadic E layers also have differing characteristics and causes depending on latitude:
[link to www.albany.edu]
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I have dozens of these library papers. This one is concerning SAR type radar dealing with the troposphere and the ionosphere and free electron detection, very in depth but there are usefull tools mingled in, better have a little time with this one. Doesn't help exactly with your research Nin, but gives a better understanding of all related topics
One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. Were no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. Its simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that weve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. Carl Sagan
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The relationship between the formation of temperate-zone sporadic-E and solar geophysical conditions are still debated. Most researchers have held that there is no clear correlation between the sunspot cycle and sporadic-E formation that compares with close association between F-layer and solar conditions. Some recent work has suggested that this may not be the case, and that low solar activity, whether measured as solar flux (sunspot number) or short term geomagnetic conditions (planetary A and K indexes), are most favourable for temperate-zone sporadic-E formation.
[link to www.uksmg.org]

Unlike F-layer propagation, mid-latitude sporadic E does not appear to be correlated with the solar cycle. F-layer propagation at HF is caused by the presence of free electrons. In the E layer ions are also important, principally O+, O++, NO+, Fe+, Mg+. The ionisation is caused by solar radiation.
[link to www.mike-willis.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


The Critical F Layers gets a mention.

That's some very handy,handy informtion!

Need to pass this on to S0.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


hmm even more interesting
Sporadic E layer (Es layer) is a thin layer (usually less than 1 mile thick) with limited horizontal extent (tens of miles) in the E-region having enhanced electron density similar to that of the F-region and hence causes reflection at lower altitude of radio waves normally reflected by the F-region. One source of sporadic E is the ionized trail of a meteor. Sporadic E layers also have differing characteristics and causes depending on latitude:
[link to www.albany.edu]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Now I wonder is that a free electron in the E layer. This is very interesting, great info!
One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. Were no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. Its simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that weve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. Carl Sagan
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I have dozens of these library papers. This one is concerning SAR type radar dealing with the troposphere and the ionosphere and free electron detection, very in depth but there are usefull tools mingled in, better have a little time with this one. Doesn't help exactly with your research Nin, but gives a better understanding of all related topics
 Quoting: shadasonic


It allows us to be able to notice weaker regions of Atmospheres above us Shads..I think this is very pertinent,no!?
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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[link to www.itc.nl]

I have dozens of these library papers. This one is concerning SAR type radar dealing with the troposphere and the ionosphere and free electron detection, very in depth but there are usefull tools mingled in, better have a little time with this one. Doesn't help exactly with your research Nin, but gives a better understanding of all related topics
 Quoting: shadasonic


That PDF appears to be a great accompaniment to the subject Shada,Thank you for that : )

(My L button just pinged off the keyboard,darn!)
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The relationship between the formation of temperate-zone sporadic-E and solar geophysical conditions are still debated. Most researchers have held that there is no clear correlation between the sunspot cycle and sporadic-E formation that compares with close association between F-layer and solar conditions. Some recent work has suggested that this may not be the case, and that low solar activity, whether measured as solar flux (sunspot number) or short term geomagnetic conditions (planetary A and K indexes), are most favourable for temperate-zone sporadic-E formation.
[link to www.uksmg.org]

Unlike F-layer propagation, mid-latitude sporadic E does not appear to be correlated with the solar cycle. F-layer propagation at HF is caused by the presence of free electrons. In the E layer ions are also important, principally O+, O++, NO+, Fe+, Mg+. The ionisation is caused by solar radiation.
[link to www.mike-willis.com]
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The Critical F Layers gets a mention.

That's some very handy,handy informtion!

Need to pass this on to S0.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


hmm even more interesting
Sporadic E layer (Es layer) is a thin layer (usually less than 1 mile thick) with limited horizontal extent (tens of miles) in the E-region having enhanced electron density similar to that of the F-region and hence causes reflection at lower altitude of radio waves normally reflected by the F-region. One source of sporadic E is the ionized trail of a meteor. Sporadic E layers also have differing characteristics and causes depending on latitude:
[link to www.albany.edu]
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I just mentioned it on the other thread,but these kind of regions can be artificially created/induced to aid Coms.
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[link to www.itc.nl]

I have dozens of these library papers. This one is concerning SAR type radar dealing with the troposphere and the ionosphere and free electron detection, very in depth but there are usefull tools mingled in, better have a little time with this one. Doesn't help exactly with your research Nin, but gives a better understanding of all related topics
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It allows us to be able to notice weaker regions of Atmospheres above us Shads..I think this is very pertinent,no!?
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Yes, in that regards it fits in nicely. I thought you two would find something of use! This is a very important study and I believe its overlooked, its not 'sexy' sun energy involvement
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^^^^ [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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No one breath or say a word.lol
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No one breath or say a word.lol
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word... tounge
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No one breath or say a word.lol
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word... tounge
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washyour mouth
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glp effect in full force
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glp effect in full force
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no worries, she's gonna dip down a bit before the real blast. my uncle said so, lol!
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glp effect in full force
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no worries, she's gonna dip down a bit before the real blast. my uncle said so, lol!
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Heya Mang!
damn glp effect
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glp effect in full force
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no worries, she's gonna dip down a bit before the real blast. my uncle said so, lol!
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Is this your uncle???

glp uncle
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Hey Nerd, peace brother
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 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


glp effect in full force
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


no worries, she's gonna dip down a bit before the real blast. my uncle said so, lol!
 Quoting: mtn_mang


Is this your uncle???

glp uncle
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


haha, yeah. that's a younger picture, however


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