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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Good Morning Everyone,

Stay Safe and Balanced.

Much Love,


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"A week off until" what "big show begins" ?
I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Then it dawned on me.
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BREAKING NEWS: Atmosphere is NOT collapsing!

This old story from 2010 even states in the opening sentence that the Thermosphere (Ionosphere) is REBOUNDING.

QUOTE: July 15, 2010: NASA-funded researchers are monitoring a big event in our planet's atmosphere. High above Earth's surface where the atmosphere meets space, a rarefied layer of gas called "the thermosphere" recently collapsed and now is rebounding again.

The collapse happened during the deep solar minimum of 2008-2009a fact which comes as little surprise to researchers. The thermosphere always cools and contracts when solar activity is low. In this case, however, the magnitude of the collapse was two to three times greater than low solar activity could explain.

"Something is going on that we do not understand," says Emmert.

[link to science.nasa.gov]

Translation: Were going to need a lot more funding between now and the time I retire in order to study this and improve our understanding. Otherwise our next press release will be even scarier.

There's an awful lot of universe out there which NASA does not understand. However, lobbying for grants and more funding is something they DO understand. Don't be alarmed by scary headlines such as "Giant breach in magnetosphere"; "Atmosphere collapsing"; "Tenth Planet Found"; etc., etc. These stories are put into the media to grab headlines for scientists to draw attention to their otherwise boring research and to garner future funding.

This particular story came out of the CO2 global warmist camp at NASA. Since the Space Shuttle was winding down, NASA found the politicians more eager to fund climate research. So please read past the scary headlines and do some boring fact-checking. These stories are deliberately exaggerated for the Doom-clamoring public to squeal and squirm a few more dollars out of their children's inheritance for Uncle Scam to play with.

ranthiding
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Please don'e bait me, TS. Dude's only been criticized by knowledgable folks who point out the deliberate fear-factor.
What happened to the mega-quake "watch", y'know the solar eclipse, the spooky astrological alignments, full moon etc. I bet the next big quake will happen during a spooky alignment (since they happen every day) of planets or ANYTHING other than normal geologic movements.
By the way, any updates on Planet X? It was supposed be here by now.

:pinkDoomsday:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Hugh ... come on now. I don't bait anyone here. I do express my own opinion however, and on this, we just don't agree.

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BREAKING NEWS: Atmosphere is NOT collapsing!

This old story from 2010 even states in the opening sentence that the Thermosphere (Ionosphere) is REBOUNDING.

QUOTE: July 15, 2010: NASA-funded researchers are monitoring a big event in our planet's atmosphere. High above Earth's surface where the atmosphere meets space, a rarefied layer of gas called "the thermosphere" recently collapsed and now is rebounding again.

The collapse happened during the deep solar minimum of 2008-2009a fact which comes as little surprise to researchers. The thermosphere always cools and contracts when solar activity is low. In this case, however, the magnitude of the collapse was two to three times greater than low solar activity could explain.

"Something is going on that we do not understand," says Emmert.

[link to science.nasa.gov]

Translation: Were going to need a lot more funding between now and the time I retire in order to study this and improve our understanding. Otherwise our next press release will be even scarier.

There's an awful lot of universe out there which NASA does not understand. However, lobbying for grants and more funding is something they DO understand. Don't be alarmed by scary headlines such as "Giant breach in magnetosphere"; "Atmosphere collapsing"; "Tenth Planet Found"; etc., etc. These stories are put into the media to grab headlines for scientists to draw attention to their otherwise boring research and to garner future funding.

This particular story came out of the CO2 global warmist camp at NASA. Since the Space Shuttle was winding down, NASA found the politicians more eager to fund climate research. So please read past the scary headlines and do some boring fact-checking. These stories are deliberately exaggerated for the Doom-clamoring public to squeal and squirm a few more dollars out of their children's inheritance for Uncle Scam to play with.

ranthiding
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Please don'e bait me, TS. Dude's only been criticized by knowledgable folks who point out the deliberate fear-factor.
What happened to the mega-quake "watch", y'know the solar eclipse, the spooky astrological alignments, full moon etc. I bet the next big quake will happen during a spooky alignment (since they happen every day) of planets or ANYTHING other than normal geologic movements.
By the way, any updates on Planet X? It was supposed be here by now.

:pinkDoomsday:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Hugh ... come on now. I don't bait anyone here. I do express my own opinion however, and on this, we just don't agree.

Just for clarification Hugh, I am not convinced in regard to his theory of planetary alignments either, but do believe the magnetosphere is in a weakened state.

blwkss
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C8.4 coming over the eastern limb.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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C8.4 coming over the eastern limb.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP2
Serial Number: 829
Issue Time: 2012 Nov 16 1605 UTC

ALERT: Type II Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2012 Nov 16 1540 UTC

Estimated Velocity: 511 km/s
Description: Type II emissions occur in association with eruptions on the sun and typically indicate a coronal mass ejection is associated with a flare event.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Nice one! Still try to catch up on the overnight activity.
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A huge CME from the east limb earlier today. Luckily Earth will only see a glancing blow at best. Still looking for more as we had a 4 hour LDE from 1613 also.

Solarsoft LDE details:

[link to www.lmsal.com]

NASA Cone model of east limb CME:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

SOHO C2 image of large, violent CME:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

SOHO C3 image:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

STEREO Behind movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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C8.4 coming over the eastern limb.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: TS66


Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP2
Serial Number: 829
Issue Time: 2012 Nov 16 1605 UTC

ALERT: Type II Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2012 Nov 16 1540 UTC

Estimated Velocity: 511 km/s
Description: Type II emissions occur in association with eruptions on the sun and typically indicate a coronal mass ejection is associated with a flare event.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Nice one! Still try to catch up on the overnight activity.
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Solarsoft is showing the C8.4 coming from the northeast limb. I don't see any ARs near there, so this was either a filament eruption or a new region is forming there. We are expecting the return of regions 1598 & 1599 in the south. Here's what they looked like last time-

:1598-99:

The SIDC comments on the big filament liftoff on the east limb (which coincided with the LDE from 1613 hyder flare):

COMMENT: Solar activity has been eruptive during the past 24 hours,
featuring three C flares from NOAA AR 11613. The C1.4 long duration
flare peaking at 07:51 UT on November 16 was associated with a filament
eruption near AR 11613. Concurrently, a filament on the eastern limb
erupted. The available coronagraph data from COR2 A aboard STEREO
suggest that the corresponding CMEs will not be geo-effective.
More
C-level flares are expected within the next 48 hours, with a chance for
an M flare, especially from AR 11613. Geomagnetic activity was at quiet
levels (K Dourbes between 0 and 3; NOAA Kp between 0 and 2) during the
past 24 hours. Quiet (K Dourbes < 4) conditions are expected for
November 16, 17 and 18.
[link to sidc.oma.be]

Here's the SEEDS Movie of CME:

[link to spaceweather.gmu.edu]

:11/16hugeCME:
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Last Edited by shenue on 11/16/2012 02:10 PM
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A huge CME from the east limb earlier today. Luckily Earth will only see a glancing blow at best. Still looking for more as we had a 4 hour LDE from 1613 also.

Solarsoft LDE details:

[link to www.lmsal.com]

NASA Cone model of east limb CME:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

SOHO C2 image of large, violent CME:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

SOHO C3 image:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

STEREO Behind movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

explosionalone
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


That thing was big!

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

I see the mid southern filament that lifted, but not seeing the northeast liftoff,but there is a waving filament up there

Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 11/16/2012 01:39 PM
One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. Were no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. Its simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that weve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. Carl Sagan
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Pic of the C 8.4 flare-
:c8.4:
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Holy smokes that is a big CME.
And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning: "That path leads ever down into stagnation."
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A huge CME from the east limb earlier today. Luckily Earth will only see a glancing blow at best. Still looking for more as we had a 4 hour LDE from 1613 also.

Solarsoft LDE details:

[link to www.lmsal.com]

NASA Cone model of east limb CME:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

SOHO C2 image of large, violent CME:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

SOHO C3 image:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

STEREO Behind movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

explosionalone
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


That thing was big!

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

I see the mid southern filament that lifted, but not seeing the northeast liftoff,but there is a waving filament up there
 Quoting: shadasonic


Wow, nice one! You can see it lifting off from the left side and at the same time you see a reaction on the middle and on the right side of the sun!
Nus
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Wow, this world is jacked.
Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me

One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide
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Just had a little C

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me

One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide
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I got this link off the Pillar Cloud thread:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Is this true. I need confirmation from a Suntard.

Thanks
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I got this link off the Pillar Cloud thread:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Is this true. I need confirmation from a Suntard.

Thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319430


old link.
Nus
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A huge CME from the east limb earlier today. Luckily Earth will only see a glancing blow at best. Still looking for more as we had a 4 hour LDE from 1613 also.

Solarsoft LDE details:

[link to www.lmsal.com]

NASA Cone model of east limb CME:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

SOHO C2 image of large, violent CME:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

SOHO C3 image:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

STEREO Behind movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

explosionalone
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Holy Carp

Last Edited by #Geomagnetic_Storm# on 11/16/2012 05:27 PM
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I got this link off the Pillar Cloud thread:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Is this true. I need confirmation from a Suntard.

Thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319430


old link.
 Quoting: 1908247


How is this an old link? The date is today's date on the letter head.
1908247

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I got this link off the Pillar Cloud thread:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Is this true. I need confirmation from a Suntard.

Thanks
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old link.
 Quoting: 1908247


How is this an old link? The date is today's date on the letter head.
 Quoting: Kybeam 27604421


That's because this the present date and not the date of the article.. Trust me, those news are not recent!
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:infnty:

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Wow, this world is jacked.
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Wow is right!! Good grief
I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how a man could look up into the heavens and say there is no God.

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I got this link off the Pillar Cloud thread:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Is this true. I need confirmation from a Suntard.

Thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319430


old link.
 Quoting: 1908247


How is this an old link? The date is today's date on the letter head.
 Quoting: Kybeam 27604421


That's because this the present date and not the date of the article.. Trust me, those news are not recent!
 Quoting: 1908247


Nope, probably from July or even last year.
I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how a man could look up into the heavens and say there is no God.

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I got this link off the Pillar Cloud thread:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Is this true. I need confirmation from a Suntard.

Thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319430


old link.
 Quoting: 1908247


How is this an old link? The date is today's date on the letter head.
 Quoting: Kybeam 27604421


Cauz we've seen this old story posted and re-posted by some Moran over and over. There was an X 17.2 flare in 2003 which is most likely when this article was written. Here's a list of the most powerful X-ray flares since 1978 (none of them are from this current solar cycle 24):

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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Why does the UK mail not have dates on their articles. I now feel cheated and disappointed. I thought I finally got my crazy CME. Arghhh.
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I'll just copy paste this from my inbox (SWPC Announcement)

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New Experimental Products Coming:
On December 11 (tentative), SWPC will introduce two new forecast products titled the 3-Day Forecast and the Forecast Discussion. These new products will: be available twice a day at 0030 and 1230 UTC; provide space weather information in two separate formats, abbreviated and detailed; and use NOAA Space Weather Scale information. Examples of these new products are available to familiarize our users at [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] (the concise, 1-page summary) and [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] (the in-depth space weather analysis for the technical user). These two products will supplement the existing product suite and no current products will be discontinued.

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Thanks for all the links posted above. You all make it so easy for me to see if the CME is earth bound or not. I just wanted to say thanks from one of your many lurkers.
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I'll just copy paste this from my inbox (SWPC Announcement)

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New Experimental Products Coming:
On December 11 (tentative), SWPC will introduce two new forecast products titled the 3-Day Forecast and the Forecast Discussion. These new products will: be available twice a day at 0030 and 1230 UTC; provide space weather information in two separate formats, abbreviated and detailed; and use NOAA Space Weather Scale information. Examples of these new products are available to familiarize our users at [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] (the concise, 1-page summary) and [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] (the in-depth space weather analysis for the technical user). These two products will supplement the existing product suite and no current products will be discontinued.

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Very helpful madajs, thanks, I liked the in-depth in particular.
Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

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Thread: How To Raise Your Vibrational Frequency If Interested
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I'll just copy paste this from my inbox (SWPC Announcement)

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New Experimental Products Coming:
On December 11 (tentative), SWPC will introduce two new forecast products titled the 3-Day Forecast and the Forecast Discussion. These new products will: be available twice a day at 0030 and 1230 UTC; provide space weather information in two separate formats, abbreviated and detailed; and use NOAA Space Weather Scale information. Examples of these new products are available to familiarize our users at [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] (the concise, 1-page summary) and [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] (the in-depth space weather analysis for the technical user). These two products will supplement the existing product suite and no current products will be discontinued.

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Very cool find Madjas ... thank you hf
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