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I've done some research into the super galactic super wave, not extensive, but spent some considerable time over the last couple of days. My intent was to find something tangible, from scientists not afraid to think outside the box (and report it), but well outside lunatic fringe conspiracy theories sites, and some were certainly a trip

I found this, what I believe to be an impressive article which represents Dr. LaViolette's viewpoint on what we should expect.

I like his take on this as he seems to take all things in consideration, not only the science, but the mythology, and conspiracy theories as well. I thought it would be a good addition to the current dust and fluff theories being brought to this thread recently.

What I did find interesting is that although a galactic super wave sent out from an explosion inside our own galactic core may not be seen or detected until very close to it's approach, once it was here, we'd know it. Moving at approximately 5 AUs a year, once detected on the edge of our own solar system at around 140 AUs, it would take approximately 25 years according to another contributor, Dr. Frisch, quoted by Dr. LaViolette in this article.

Do "they" already know it's on it's way ?? Only time will tell. But one indicator that LaViolette points out, that I find would be quite indicative of it's actual arrival, would be in fact our own heliosphere. To quote:

"I understand that some astronomers are presently alarmed to find that the outer boundary of the heliopause is as close as 1000 AU with the inner boundary at ~70 AU. The heliopause sheath would be far more compressed during a superwave arrival. As I pointed out in my dissertation, during a superwave event, similar to those that appear to have occurred during the last ice age, the inner boundary of the heliopause sheath could have become so greatly compressed that its upwind side would have been positioned between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, hence around 3 AU. This would have allowed easier entry of vaporized cosmic dust."

For me this was the most comprehensive explanation of "fluff" whether local, interstellar, or a galactic super wave, and a good read.

[link to starburstfound.org]

And a little about LaViolette

[link to projectcamelot.org]

[link to www.etheric.com]
 Quoting: TS66


I really enjoy Dr. L's work,glad you brought this up as I've been a little hesitant. He really puts it together in a nice package of info.
 Quoting: shadasonic


I'm beginning to appreciate his work, and a galactic super wave is inevitable, althoug no one has a clear prediction of when. A hundreds of years from now, tomorrow 1dunno1

So if you do not believe this is a galactic super wave or other, where do believe this "dust" , "fluff" you were referring to above is coming from ???
 Quoting: TS66


Hello 66 : )

With regard the Dust and other Inter-planetary detritus I thought this image of our Sun and its' location in relation to the surrounding Interstellar Clouds of Gasses and other nicenesses that encompass our Sun and Solar System might help [link to www.nasa.gov] <--- We are currently in what is the known as the 'Local Cloud' and have been for around 35-45000 Years(or more)and we are heading toward the 'G-Cloud'(labeled).

Astrophysicists are interested in what the make up of the next Interstellar Cloud we will be traversing is made up from as obviously,this can have obvious possibilities good or bad or indifferent for our own Heliosphere and it's Babies as we wonder through the wondermenthf
 Quoting: SC 14589973


Thank you for that, yes I believe in the article I posted above refers to them as "Cloudlets" (???) Pockets within our own Local (fluff) Clouds.

But I haven't found anything that indicates that we are experiencing anything more than we have for the last (I'll quote you now) 35-40,000 years, or that they have definitively identified a "G" cloud, although they certainly know they exsist. This Local Cloud will be with us for at least another 300,000 years.

What I am trying to understand is the theory that our solar system is currently experiencing an extraordinary "dust or fluff" that is impacting the mechanics of our sun.

Again I believe it is inevitable, but what data supports that it has already arrived ??? And if it has what is it ??
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That is the only frame out of 46 that is "blacked out"

[link to solar.nro.nao.ac.jp]

interesting when you brighten the frame the Sun seems to be in a sort of radio/tractor beam or something
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SWEET you went and found it

what yah didn't believe me? =P
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I was just wondering why it would interest you so much that you would take a screenshot of it. The average person would never notice an anomaly like that.

Are you a radio astronomer?

btw..I'm still not sure what that telescope does exactly:/
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I've done some research into the super galactic super wave, not extensive, but spent some considerable time over the last couple of days. My intent was to find something tangible, from scientists not afraid to think outside the box (and report it), but well outside lunatic fringe conspiracy theories sites, and some were certainly a trip

I found this, what I believe to be an impressive article which represents Dr. LaViolette's viewpoint on what we should expect.

I like his take on this as he seems to take all things in consideration, not only the science, but the mythology, and conspiracy theories as well. I thought it would be a good addition to the current dust and fluff theories being brought to this thread recently.

What I did find interesting is that although a galactic super wave sent out from an explosion inside our own galactic core may not be seen or detected until very close to it's approach, once it was here, we'd know it. Moving at approximately 5 AUs a year, once detected on the edge of our own solar system at around 140 AUs, it would take approximately 25 years according to another contributor, Dr. Frisch, quoted by Dr. LaViolette in this article.

Do "they" already know it's on it's way ?? Only time will tell. But one indicator that LaViolette points out, that I find would be quite indicative of it's actual arrival, would be in fact our own heliosphere. To quote:

"I understand that some astronomers are presently alarmed to find that the outer boundary of the heliopause is as close as 1000 AU with the inner boundary at ~70 AU. The heliopause sheath would be far more compressed during a superwave arrival. As I pointed out in my dissertation, during a superwave event, similar to those that appear to have occurred during the last ice age, the inner boundary of the heliopause sheath could have become so greatly compressed that its upwind side would have been positioned between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, hence around 3 AU. This would have allowed easier entry of vaporized cosmic dust."

For me this was the most comprehensive explanation of "fluff" whether local, interstellar, or a galactic super wave, and a good read.

[link to starburstfound.org]

And a little about LaViolette

[link to projectcamelot.org]

[link to www.etheric.com]
 Quoting: TS66


I really enjoy Dr. L's work,glad you brought this up as I've been a little hesitant. He really puts it together in a nice package of info.
 Quoting: shadasonic


I'm beginning to appreciate his work, and a galactic super wave is inevitable, althoug no one has a clear prediction of when. A hundreds of years from now, tomorrow 1dunno1

So if you do not believe this is a galactic super wave or other, where do believe this "dust" , "fluff" you were referring to above is coming from ???
 Quoting: TS66


I'm not sure I understand the question. I believe a super wave is coming someday. Cosmic dust is everywhere. It comes from comets,asteroids, the kuiper belt etc... The interstellar cloud we're in (fluff), is one of many that travel, or are throughout the universe.It has a strong magnetic field is about 30 light years wide and is made up of helium and hydrogen atoms. The fluff we're in I believe is causing polarity issues and particle displacement with dust, quite possibly our oort cloud and is interfering with the normal cycle of the sun,and will eventually cause our planet problems,now if a superwave would strike now,wow, with all that energy to play with it would be a massive problem. I hope that helped TS,if not ask me some more.hf

note: there are some who believe there are large clouds within clouds(pockets) of varying makeup that react strongly with other magnetic sources and particle polarity. With some of the info we've received , we believe we have entered or are entering one now,and there could be trouble with jet particles,cosmic dust, and bad interactions with our oort cloud,maybe that helped

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I really enjoy Dr. L's work,glad you brought this up as I've been a little hesitant. He really puts it together in a nice package of info.
 Quoting: shadasonic


I'm beginning to appreciate his work, and a galactic super wave is inevitable, althoug no one has a clear prediction of when. A hundreds of years from now, tomorrow 1dunno1

So if you do not believe this is a galactic super wave or other, where do believe this "dust" , "fluff" you were referring to above is coming from ???
 Quoting: TS66


Hello 66 : )

With regard the Dust and other Inter-planetary detritus I thought this image of our Sun and its' location in relation to the surrounding Interstellar Clouds of Gasses and other nicenesses that encompass our Sun and Solar System might help [link to www.nasa.gov] <--- We are currently in what is the known as the 'Local Cloud' and have been for around 35-45000 Years(or more)and we are heading toward the 'G-Cloud'(labeled).

Astrophysicists are interested in what the make up of the next Interstellar Cloud we will be traversing is made up from as obviously,this can have obvious possibilities good or bad or indifferent for our own Heliosphere and it's Babies as we wonder through the wondermenthf
 Quoting: SC 14589973


Thank you for that, yes I believe in the article I posted above refers to them as "Cloudlets" (???) Pockets within our own Local (fluff) Clouds.

But I haven't found anything that indicates that we are experiencing anything more than we have for the last (I'll quote you now) 35-40,000 years, or that they have definitively identified a "G" cloud, although they certainly know they exsist. This Local Cloud will be with us for at least another 300,000 years.

What I am trying to understand is the theory that our solar system is currently experiencing an extraordinary "dust or fluff" that is impacting the mechanics of our sun.

Again I believe it is inevitable, but what data supports that it has already arrived ??? And if it has what is it ??
 Quoting: TS66


I don't know if it would be just the 'Fluffy' - We had a extended period of almost dead Solar Wind and a overall quite period in activity from our Sun,this in term causes the Heliosphere to contract and that in-turn allows for and did allow a larger penetration of Cosmic rays(not all of them 'Neutral')..when Cosmic Rays interact with the Ionizing Radiation from our Sun it converts into other Particles of other charges,some higher and the inverse...along with Cosmic ray annihilation there are some things theorized but not known about just what kind of 'packets' some Cosmic rays come in/what they actually are and the possible effects these could have when meeting the Solar Medium,this coupled with a supposed potential for a denser region of 'Fluffy' or a change in our clouds make up has some a bit concerned and intrigued as to what(if anything)may come of it.

Now,coupling the ideas from folks sun as Voilette and the 'Super-Wave' Theory spells all kinds of Cluster Fooks,as I am sure you have been listening to : )

I could talk about these things for ages with you 66 but as it is I am feeling rather fragile and my Grey Matter in'snt ticking over properly,so excuse me if my First Paragraph(diatribe)was disjointed,a little out of kilter me heartywink
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Any sun family from Cali stay safe,you guys got a mini sandy coming at you for about 3 days, starting tomorrow. 15" of rain, 20' swells and 80 mph winds,northern cali, be carefull folks!
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Me. Were gonna go fishing in the weather tomorrow. Lol
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I've done some research into the super galactic super wave, not extensive, but spent some considerable time over the last couple of days. My intent was to find something tangible, from scientists not afraid to think outside the box (and report it), but well outside lunatic fringe conspiracy theories sites, and some were certainly a trip

I found this, what I believe to be an impressive article which represents Dr. LaViolette's viewpoint on what we should expect.

I like his take on this as he seems to take all things in consideration, not only the science, but the mythology, and conspiracy theories as well. I thought it would be a good addition to the current dust and fluff theories being brought to this thread recently.

What I did find interesting is that although a galactic super wave sent out from an explosion inside our own galactic core may not be seen or detected until very close to it's approach, once it was here, we'd know it. Moving at approximately 5 AUs a year, once detected on the edge of our own solar system at around 140 AUs, it would take approximately 25 years according to another contributor, Dr. Frisch, quoted by Dr. LaViolette in this article.

Do "they" already know it's on it's way ?? Only time will tell. But one indicator that LaViolette points out, that I find would be quite indicative of it's actual arrival, would be in fact our own heliosphere. To quote:

"I understand that some astronomers are presently alarmed to find that the outer boundary of the heliopause is as close as 1000 AU with the inner boundary at ~70 AU. The heliopause sheath would be far more compressed during a superwave arrival. As I pointed out in my dissertation, during a superwave event, similar to those that appear to have occurred during the last ice age, the inner boundary of the heliopause sheath could have become so greatly compressed that its upwind side would have been positioned between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, hence around 3 AU. This would have allowed easier entry of vaporized cosmic dust."

For me this was the most comprehensive explanation of "fluff" whether local, interstellar, or a galactic super wave, and a good read.

[link to starburstfound.org]

And a little about LaViolette

[link to projectcamelot.org]

[link to www.etheric.com]
 Quoting: TS66


I really enjoy Dr. L's work,glad you brought this up as I've been a little hesitant. He really puts it together in a nice package of info.
 Quoting: shadasonic


I'm beginning to appreciate his work, and a galactic super wave is inevitable, althoug no one has a clear prediction of when. A hundreds of years from now, tomorrow 1dunno1

So if you do not believe this is a galactic super wave or other, where do believe this "dust" , "fluff" you were referring to above is coming from ???
 Quoting: TS66


I'm not sure I understand the question. I believe a super wave is coming someday. Cosmic dust is everywhere. It comes from comets,asteroids, the kuiper belt etc... The interstellar cloud we're in (fluff), is one of many that travel, or are throughout the universe.It has a strong magnetic field is about 30 light years wide and is made up of helium and hydrogen atoms. The fluff we're in I believe is causing polarity issues and particle displacement with dust, quite possibly our oort cloud and is interfering with the normal cycle of the sun,and will eventually cause our planet problems,now if a superwave would strike now,wow, with all that energy to play with it would be a massive problem. I hope that helped TS,if not ask me some more.hf

note: there are some who believe there are large clouds within clouds(pockets) of varying makeup that react strongly with other magnetic sources and particle polarity. With some of the info we've received , we believe we have entered or are entering one now,and there could be trouble with jet particles,cosmic dust, and bad interactions with our oort cloud,maybe that helped
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Lol!

Though not Word for Word,your answer to the question posed by 66 that I answered also come to more or less the exact same conclusionshf

Good stuff,it would appear we have both been listening to Teacher(whoever Teacher is)as our distillations of what we input amounts to roughly the same concentrations,in these matters at least : )

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She going crazy

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Hello GMsun:sleepy:

Good call,here it/they are from 1620 [link to halpha.nso.edu] .

Hope you are Good Sol Bro'.

Have a guetn Tag Fishing biaaattcchhhwink
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She going crazy

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Hello GMsunsleepy

Good call,here it/they are from 1620 [link to halpha.nso.edu] .

Hope you are Good Sol Bro'.

Have a guetn Tag Fishing biaaattcchhhwink
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Haha thanks.
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The C 7.1 flare from 1620 was accompanied by a CME. We'll see in an hour or two depending on the coronagraph images and if our computers continue working.

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

For Shenue>>> I posted this a little while back and maybe you missed it then....

A correct & concise explanation and history of the K, Kp, and A-indices from Lief Svalgaard:

[link to www.leif.org]

I found this a much better explanation of these indices than NOAA's website provides.
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I really enjoy Dr. L's work,glad you brought this up as I've been a little hesitant. He really puts it together in a nice package of info.
 Quoting: shadasonic


I'm beginning to appreciate his work, and a galactic super wave is inevitable, althoug no one has a clear prediction of when. A hundreds of years from now, tomorrow 1dunno1

So if you do not believe this is a galactic super wave or other, where do believe this "dust" , "fluff" you were referring to above is coming from ???
 Quoting: TS66


I'm not sure I understand the question. I believe a super wave is coming someday. Cosmic dust is everywhere. It comes from comets,asteroids, the kuiper belt etc... The interstellar cloud we're in (fluff), is one of many that travel, or are throughout the universe.It has a strong magnetic field is about 30 light years wide and is made up of helium and hydrogen atoms. The fluff we're in I believe is causing polarity issues and particle displacement with dust, quite possibly our oort cloud and is interfering with the normal cycle of the sun,and will eventually cause our planet problems,now if a superwave would strike now,wow, with all that energy to play with it would be a massive problem. I hope that helped TS,if not ask me some more.hf

note: there are some who believe there are large clouds within clouds(pockets) of varying makeup that react strongly with other magnetic sources and particle polarity. With some of the info we've received , we believe we have entered or are entering one now,and there could be trouble with jet particles,cosmic dust, and bad interactions with our oort cloud,maybe that helped
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Lol!

Though not Word for Word,your answer to the question posed by 66 that I answered also come to more or less the exact same conclusionshf

Good stuff,it would appear we have both been listening to Teacher(whoever Teacher is)as our distillations of what we input amounts to roughly the same concentrations,in these matters at least : )

OneLuv2.
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I read yours and thought well cesium just answered that for me.lol
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[link to halpha.nso.edu]

shes smoking the rock again.


[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

These guys are sleeping

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AR1620 Now Officially B-G-D!

New Active Region Officially Named AR1623!!
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Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 333 Issued at 0030Z on 28 Nov 2012
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 27 Nov
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 27/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
1618 N09W81 136 0170 Eao 12 10 Beta-Gamma-Delta
1620 S12W43 097 0260 Ekc 11 22 Beta-Gamma-Delta
1621 N16E37 017 0130 Cao 03 02 Beta
1623 N11E74 341 0170 Dso 02 02 Beta
IA. H-alpha Plages without Spots. Locations Valid at 27/2400Z Nov
Nmbr Location Lo
1622 S24E02 053
II. Regions Due to Return 28 Nov to 30 Nov
Nmbr Lat Lo
None
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Latest HMI Intensitygram:

[link to jsoc.stanford.edu]
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[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

liftoff


[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

nice little halo

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Well if some one finds some evidence of our solar system rotating in into one of these pockets, "cloudlets" as LaViolette refers to them, please pass that info along. As of now, I haven't read of any scientist, including LaViolette that is tangibly aware of one, nor has detected one, other than the local cloud we have been basked in for several tens of thousands of years.

I guess that was my question from the start.

Again, the article I posted was a good read wink
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here is the image I saved from long ago check this out the date is on the image 9 23 2010 [link to s17.postimage.org]


fast forward to 0:35


older video


An 11th magnitude quake has been recorded on the Sun, immediately following a moderate solar flare. June 1, 1998
see image - [link to apod.nasa.gov]
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Catching up from where I left off before, SeaPunk I mentioned the first video in another comment, now just saw this second one, I've never heard of the sun having 'earthquakes' that is new territory to me.
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I've done some research into the super galactic super wave, not extensive, but spent some considerable time over the last couple of days. My intent was to find something tangible, from scientists not afraid to think outside the box (and report it), but well outside lunatic fringe conspiracy theories sites, and some were certainly a trip

I found this, what I believe to be an impressive article which represents Dr. LaViolette's viewpoint on what we should expect.

I like his take on this as he seems to take all things in consideration, not only the science, but the mythology, and conspiracy theories as well. I thought it would be a good addition to the current dust and fluff theories being brought to this thread recently.

What I did find interesting is that although a galactic super wave sent out from an explosion inside our own galactic core may not be seen or detected until very close to it's approach, once it was here, we'd know it. Moving at approximately 5 AUs a year, once detected on the edge of our own solar system at around 140 AUs, it would take approximately 25 years according to another contributor, Dr. Frisch, quoted by Dr. LaViolette in this article.

Do "they" already know it's on it's way ?? Only time will tell. But one indicator that LaViolette points out, that I find would be quite indicative of it's actual arrival, would be in fact our own heliosphere. To quote:

"I understand that some astronomers are presently alarmed to find that the outer boundary of the heliopause is as close as 1000 AU with the inner boundary at ~70 AU. The heliopause sheath would be far more compressed during a superwave arrival. As I pointed out in my dissertation, during a superwave event, similar to those that appear to have occurred during the last ice age, the inner boundary of the heliopause sheath could have become so greatly compressed that its upwind side would have been positioned between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, hence around 3 AU. This would have allowed easier entry of vaporized cosmic dust."

For me this was the most comprehensive explanation of "fluff" whether local, interstellar, or a galactic super wave, and a good read.

[link to starburstfound.org]

And a little about LaViolette

[link to projectcamelot.org]

[link to www.etheric.com]
 Quoting: TS66

Nice post TS!

Unrelated, I'm also disappointed in SEEDS not updating. I like the monochrome analysis images they put out for STEREO A/B [link to spaceweather.gmu.edu] , really shows the density more clearly, and I don't know any other service that provides that.

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Thank you anonymous for the red karma for even daring to question the facts behind the consensus here ...... even politely.

If we don't agree, it must mean we are "against" ??

Very shorted sighted and minded for a such perceived brilliance ...



Oyyyy...... sad, very sad.
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Hi Seapunk, love the new avatar, good work on all those images, I have been discussing this with RT too, on the 24th, there was a VERY STRANGE (to me) free floating ejection of very dense plasma above the north pole of the sun. Spittin C first noticed it and posted a pic early on the 25th, that now cannot be linked to. I wonder if these events are correlated. Also, the ripples could be harmonically induced (cymantics) as well. Like a sonic boom of EPIC proportions was let off (maybe from the sun and maybe accompanying that free floating plasma).
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ive made a new thread about it Thread: a WING came out of the SUN Nov 24th 'images posted'
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Cool. Just catching up after work, I'll check it out in a bit
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Thank you anonymous for the red karma for even daring to question the facts behind the consensus here ...... even politely.

If we don't agree, it must mean we are "against" ??

Very shorted sighted and minded for a such perceived brilliance ...



Oyyyy...... sad, very sad.
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I was reading your karma seems you have alot of hair?
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Well if some one finds some evidence of our solar system rotating in into one of these pockets, "cloudlets" as LaViolette refers to them, please pass that info along. As of now, I haven't read of any scientist, including LaViolette that is tangibly aware of one, nor has detected one, other than the local cloud we have been basked in for several tens of thousands of years.

I guess that was my question from the start.

Again, the article I posted was a good read wink
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I've been going over lots of info. This article from 2009 says we haven't entered it as of that date,so I don't know if they mean the interstellar cloud or a dense portion called the fluff?
It says voyager was just getting ready to enter it. They may be talking about the highly magnetic region.

I didn't mean to aggravate you TS,and if I did I appologize. I've been looking into this for a while with several old timers from this thread, colleagues, and info from the astronomica field group. I'm just trying to figure out why the sun has been completely off kilter for the last 6 months, and have run into many people that have all come to the same postulation that I have,just trying to make sense out of this mystery.hf
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Thank you anonymous for the red karma for even daring to question the facts behind the consensus here ...... even politely.

If we don't agree, it must mean we are "against" ??

Very shorted sighted and minded for a such perceived brilliance ...



Oyyyy...... sad, very sad.
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I was reading your karma seems you have alot of hair?
 Quoting: SeaPunk


Yes, obviously another downfall of mine wink
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Well if some one finds some evidence of our solar system rotating in into one of these pockets, "cloudlets" as LaViolette refers to them, please pass that info along. As of now, I haven't read of any scientist, including LaViolette that is tangibly aware of one, nor has detected one, other than the local cloud we have been basked in for several tens of thousands of years.

I guess that was my question from the start.

Again, the article I posted was a good read wink
 Quoting: TS66


I've been going over lots of info. This article from 2009 says we haven't entered it as of that date,so I don't know if they mean the interstellar cloud or a dense portion called the fluff?
It says voyager was just getting ready to enter it. They may be talking about the highly magnetic region.

I didn't mean to aggravate you TS,and if I did I appologize. I've been looking into this for a while with several old timers from this thread, colleagues, and info from the astronomica field group. I'm just trying to figure out why the sun has been completely off kilter for the last 6 months, and have run into many people that have all come to the same postulation that I have,just trying to make sense out of this mystery.hf
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And I'm not disputing it's validity (PS been here since the beginning of this thread), I'm just looking for the facts to base it on that would make this theory any more viable than any other of thousand theories out there.

It would be soooo much easy for me to nod and smile around here, I get it. I even would like to say "Holy Shit, that's it !!!!"

But I can't without more, and for the two days I've spent looking for it, I can't find it.

There's a whole group of people on this site that believe it's simply divine intervention, and you know what Shad, I would love that reason more any other put out there, but can't.

If there is no discussion or debate then there is no learning, just knowing, and we all know the results of that.
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Thank you anonymous for the red karma for even daring to question the facts behind the consensus here ...... even politely.

If we don't agree, it must mean we are "against" ??

Very shorted sighted and minded for a such perceived brilliance ...



Oyyyy...... sad, very sad.
 Quoting: TS66


I got one also, you shouldn't be able to give karma without your ID number being given at least,cowards.
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Well if some one finds some evidence of our solar system rotating in into one of these pockets, "cloudlets" as LaViolette refers to them, please pass that info along. As of now, I haven't read of any scientist, including LaViolette that is tangibly aware of one, nor has detected one, other than the local cloud we have been basked in for several tens of thousands of years.

I guess that was my question from the start.

Again, the article I posted was a good read wink
 Quoting: TS66


I've been going over lots of info. This article from 2009 says we haven't entered it as of that date,so I don't know if they mean the interstellar cloud or a dense portion called the fluff?
It says voyager was just getting ready to enter it. They may be talking about the highly magnetic region.

I didn't mean to aggravate you TS,and if I did I appologize. I've been looking into this for a while with several old timers from this thread, colleagues, and info from the astronomica field group. I'm just trying to figure out why the sun has been completely off kilter for the last 6 months, and have run into many people that have all come to the same postulation that I have,just trying to make sense out of this mystery.hf
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And I'm not disputing it's validity (PS been here since the beginning of this thread), I'm just looking for the facts to base it on that would make this theory any more viable than any other of thousand theories out there.

It would be soooo much easy for me to nod and smile around here, I get it. I even would like to say "Holy Shit, that's it !!!!"

But I can't without more, and for the two days I've spent looking for it, I can't find it.

There's a whole group of people on this site that believe it's simply divine intervention, and you know what Shad, I would love that reason more any other put out there, but can't.

If there is no discussion or debate then there is no learning, just knowing, and we all know the results of that.
 Quoting: TS66


Completely agree,and if I'm wrong , which theres a good chance of ,hopefully I'll learn and be better for it. I enjoy debate makes us all the better,was hoping I didn't say anything to make you mad as I as I value your opinion
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The article is yes from 2009, but it is the most comprehensive and credible one I've found to date. No follow ups on , "oh wow, here it is", just some theories.

Here's an article that completely disregards the impacts of galactic clouds as no big deal on the Earth from 2010.

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

Should we believe that one ????

Or maybe we should ask SG ???

Maybe we should consider all without the condescension shown here in regard to a differing opinion.

I didn't call names, I wasn't rude, I was only asking for evidence that you are basing your theories on, because I just can't find it.
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CME?

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Yes sir,from the C 7 I believe

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Thank you anonymous for the red karma for even daring to question the facts behind the consensus here ...... even politely.

If we don't agree, it must mean we are "against" ??

Very shorted sighted and minded for a such perceived brilliance ...



Oyyyy...... sad, very sad.
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I got one also, you shouldn't be able to give karma without your ID number being given at least,cowards.
 Quoting: shadasonic



Ok now I am going to say something.

I have been watching all of our Karma ratings lately and I have noticed all of us have been getting red Karma only recently. Now one of mine I know who did it just based on their language.

So, based on what they are saying we now have been infiltrated with shills/trolls. Based on the postings lately you can easily pick up on who they are.

I do not care anymore as this is the most childish crap I have ever seen. So, bring it on because what goes around comes around. If we stop posting what our truths are then yet again the truth may never be know.
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Nice strong C3 flare from our new friend 1623 on the NE limb-

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

AR1620 has produced 23 C-flares and one M in a little over 48 hours. Somehow Lockheed's flare list lost the M-flare or maybe I imagined it......

[link to www.lmsal.com]

Wait! It must have happened 'cause here's a close-up movie of it, LOL:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

STEREO Behind shows a new CME goin' north:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Now back to your regularly scheduled .....y'know....

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