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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Can someone tell me what is going on with the Solar Wind Density? [link to www.spaceweatherlive.com]

I have never seen this chart look like this. I will save a screenprint, in case it changes. This table usually looks solid green. I am seeing a red triangle??
 Quoting: muse_1111


Nice catch, muse, it seems to be another case of bad data glitch from ACE. I see a crazy reading and then a gap around 15:30z.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Since we Earthlings have only one other detector in that neighborhood of space, I always check the SOHO SW data for verification. The SOHO detectors show no big spikes and no density above 15 p/cu.cm today. Both spacecraft are in the old age now and occasionally have fits of dementia, haha.

SOHO SW data:

[link to umtof.umd.edu]
alien11
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


its not marked as bad data though hugh
it IS valid data if you look at the top of any ACE data list, you will see this

# Status(S): 0 = nominal data, 1 to 8 = bad data record, 9 = no data

this value is shown in the column just to the left of the Density value amount
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

this is how we find out if it is or is not bad data, we cant just assume becuase its such an insane number in the spike that it Must then be bad data

so, looking at the data value for the data, we see the 2 times in question, 15:28 UTC and 15:29 UTC are data marked as "0"
) indicates "Normal/Good" data
if it was bad data, it would be market with a value between 1 and 8
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Did not know that, Thanks!
 Quoting: shadasonic


I didn't know that, either. Thank you, Nin, for the detailed information.
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Far-side filament eruption and CME seen by STEREO Ahead:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Nice view on the EUVI-A movie; look on the lower (oops) RIGHT side:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Solarsoft SDO close-up movie of the C5.7 flare from 1629:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 12/12/2012 01:27 PM
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Two new active regions appear to be emerging NE of 1629-

Latest HMI Color Intensitygram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Latest HMI Color Magnetogram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

:2newARs:
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Can someone tell me what is going on with the Solar Wind Density? [link to www.spaceweatherlive.com]

I have never seen this chart look like this. I will save a screenprint, in case it changes. This table usually looks solid green. I am seeing a red triangle??
 Quoting: muse_1111


Nice catch, muse, it seems to be another case of bad data glitch from ACE. I see a crazy reading and then a gap around 15:30z.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Since we Earthlings have only one other detector in that neighborhood of space, I always check the SOHO SW data for verification. The SOHO detectors show no big spikes and no density above 15 p/cu.cm today. Both spacecraft are in the old age now and occasionally have fits of dementia, haha.

SOHO SW data:

[link to umtof.umd.edu]
alien11
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


its not marked as bad data though hugh
it IS valid data if you look at the top of any ACE data list, you will see this

# Status(S): 0 = nominal data, 1 to 8 = bad data record, 9 = no data

this value is shown in the column just to the left of the Density value amount
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

this is how we find out if it is or is not bad data, we cant just assume becuase its such an insane number in the spike that it Must then be bad data

so, looking at the data value for the data, we see the 2 times in question, 15:28 UTC and 15:29 UTC are data marked as "0"
) indicates "Normal/Good" data
if it was bad data, it would be market with a value between 1 and 8
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Thank you so much for this thread.
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Old 1620 looks nice.

[link to www.solarham.net]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
Two new active regions appear to be emerging NE of 1629-

Latest HMI Color Intensitygram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Latest HMI Color Magnetogram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

:2newARs:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


2, 2, 2 lol like 12/12/12
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Hello Folkssunhf

Hope you are all well : )

Regarding the pulses of higher density,the Sun does this as we approach Solar Max - I'll find a link for you guys later,but apparently these pulses are also of concern for Satellites as well as the potential for Geo-Storms etc. during Solar Max.

Anyhoo' [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] looks pretty wild : )
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Nice eruption over the West limb as well as the dodgy Filament on the North-East flapping around [link to halpha.nso.edu] .
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Two new active regions appear to be emerging NE of 1629-

Latest HMI Color Intensitygram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Latest HMI Color Magnetogram:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

:2newARs:
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


2, 2, 2 lol like 12/12/12
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29072253


12-12-12= 2 X (6-6-6)

barcode666
Hugh M Eye

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I came across this interesting bit of history on the Solar Cycle Butterfly Chart-

[link to www.ucar.edu]
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
I came across this interesting bit of history on the Solar Cycle Butterfly Chart-

[link to www.ucar.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Thank you for that Hugh,just scanned it quickly but will read it through later : )

By the way the true Number of the Beast is reckoned to be 616 [link to en.wikipedia.org] wink
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Do I understand correctly....When the poles reverse, that indicates that the solar max has been reached? I know the pole reversal is normal but I didn't realize that indicates the max has been reached.
 Quoting: shenue


Hi Shenue,

Yes I believe that is correct.

However, I would like for Madjas or Nin to confirm.

Hope you are doing well.

Much Love,
 Quoting: Tiny Trink

Traditionally solar max refers to the sunspot count, not the magnetic poles. Obviously the two are very related, but sunspot max and pole reversal don't occur at the exact same time.

I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with accuweather for stating max has been reached, whichever definition they are using. I don't think we've reached sunspot max, and I know the poles haven't finished reversing. :)
 Quoting: madajs


Please Please Please be true. Solar max can't possibly be over. Feels like it hasn't even started.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

:ftwpanda:

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Hello Folkssunhf

Hope you are all well : )

Regarding the pulses of higher density,the Sun does this as we approach Solar Max - I'll find a link for you guys later,but apparently these pulses are also of concern for Satellites as well as the potential for Geo-Storms etc. during Solar Max.

Anyhoo' [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] looks pretty wild : )
 Quoting: SC 14589973


Hey, C.. hi
Interested to see any information on these pulses.
Thanks for all y'all do..

Sun crew is on it.. like a duck on a junebug..
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:tghgfhfgrtrt:

check 12 12 12
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:tghgfhfgrtrt:

check 12 12 12
 Quoting: SeaPunk


chuckle
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

:ftwpanda:

dapurps
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I came across this interesting bit of history on the Solar Cycle Butterfly Chart-

[link to www.ucar.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


nice!
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I came across this interesting bit of history on the Solar Cycle Butterfly Chart-

[link to www.ucar.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

thanks Hugh M Eye =)



sorry vid has a robot voice

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It's not over until the fat lady sings:

November 26, 2012


"NOAA scientists are on high alert as the Sun enters a period of solar maximum over the next 14 months during which we will see a burst of activity that could have catastrophic effects on global power grids and communications systems."



"Scientists point to "The Carrington Event," named after British astronomer Richard Carrington, who observed it. The Carrington Event was a major solar flare that hit the Earth in 1859, shortly after the Sun reached solar maximum at a time in which the telegraph provided the only advanced global communication system."

Read more: [link to www.digitaljournal.com]



Good Morning all hf
 Quoting: TS66


I'm so confused. Did any of the agencies call it? According to this article it is a bit early, no?
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
what we see on STEREO B is what will be facing us in the next few weeks
so i have been watching it close for any changes
I noticed 2 things today

here are the 2 images we will be looking at
the 1st one is from the beginning of today and the 2nd image is the most recent
open them each in a new tab
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

flipping between the 2-
1st to note is the drastic change being seen in the filament? located in the far southern region

2nd to note is the growing of the filament? located to the far left middle section of the solar disk

old sunspot 1620 is about to come back into a earth facing position (around Dec 15-16 or so)and not far behind it, a new sunspot that is now forming
here is solarham's farside map where you can see the sunspot numbers
[link to www.solarham.net]

as a reminder, sunspot 1620 was the last earth facing sunspot to produce any significant flares and was responsiable for the last 2 M+ size flares we have had

November 2012
M2.2 Flare on 11/28/2012 @ 21:28 UTC - Sunspot 1620
M1.0 Flare on 11/27/2012 @ 21:26 UTC - Sunspot 1620
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National Sound check day, ha

In Japanese its

Mooshie mooshie mooshie, ha
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Wtf?

That is bizarre 101 through 404.

Thank you Luisportsunhf
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Wtf?

That is bizarre 101 through 404.

Thank you Luisportsunhf
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Thank you too!hf
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Western limb looks whacky as shite [link to halpha.nso.edu] and the Symmetry of the opposing Arcs in this [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] look awesome.

: )
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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on the pinned threads right now
Thread: BREAKING: North Korean Satellite Tumbling Out of Control
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)
what we see on STEREO B is what will be facing us in the next few weeks
so i have been watching it close for any changes
I noticed 2 things today

here are the 2 images we will be looking at
the 1st one is from the beginning of today and the 2nd image is the most recent
open them each in a new tab
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

flipping between the 2-
1st to note is the drastic change being seen in the filament? located in the far southern region

2nd to note is the growing of the filament? located to the far left middle section of the solar disk

old sunspot 1620 is about to come back into a earth facing position (around Dec 15-16 or so)and not far behind it, a new sunspot that is now forming
here is solarham's farside map where you can see the sunspot numbers
[link to www.solarham.net]

as a reminder, sunspot 1620 was the last earth facing sunspot to produce any significant flares and was responsiable for the last 2 M+ size flares we have had

November 2012
M2.2 Flare on 11/28/2012 @ 21:28 UTC - Sunspot 1620
M1.0 Flare on 11/27/2012 @ 21:26 UTC - Sunspot 1620
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Hello NiNzsunhf

That is quite impressive!

I'm wondering if maybe the darker area on the left may be a growing CH after a eruption perhaps?

That Southern Crown Filament sure is large!

Always a good idea to monitor the Farside,it is the closet a Human can come in the Physical to seeing the Futuregrin and b

Pretty freaky when you think about it.

hf
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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 Quoting: NiNzrez


Oh frack.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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[link to www.spaceweather.com]

big' ol coronal hole
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[link to www.spaceweather.com]

big' ol coronal hole
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Oof! Do they always look transparent??


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