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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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here is a chart going back to 1960's

we have seen much worse...but this is the highest i see during a solar max.

[link to cosmicrays.oulu.fi]

here is another chart to look over....
[link to cosmicrays.oulu.fi]

Last Edited by psyoptics on 01/03/2013 09:33 AM
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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SO has put up a second video today called:
"They Should Tell You"
The link is here: [link to youtu.be]
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Still seems to be some activity on the farside of the sun

from yesterday



[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

and bigger on 1/1

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]





I know it was discussed in earlier posts, but did anyone find a correlation between which side of the sun may be facing the galactic center while passing the galactic equator ??

Nothing else in my mind is making any sense. gaah


SOHO is down too !!! [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] gaah gaah

My paranoid mind is kicking in; are we systematically being cut off from data ???
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im right there with you on this one
remember the big solar tsunami we had on the farside of the sun around the same time we were suposto have aligned with the galactic center
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SO has put up a second video today called:
"They Should Tell You"
The link is here: [link to youtu.be]
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a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Good morning everyone. Group Hug
Let's see what I missed last night.
I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Then it dawned on me.
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Good morning all hf

Unlike many of the earth facing solar regions today, this unnumbered area rotating in from the East is very nicely organized.

I wonder if if it will be classified as one or three regions by NASA. My bet is on three, as this would be one ginormous SR. NASA does not like ginormous wink

Regardless of their preference, it's all about interaction ... we'll have to wait and see.



:1213:
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i was wondering why they are compiling these 2 seperate sunspots as well

solen posted on this today as well

New region 11644 [N15E62] rotated into view on January 1 and got its NOAA number the next day. SWPC seems to be grouping this with AR S2150 even though the spots have the same polarity and clearly are split into two separate groups magnetically.
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Published on Jan 2, 2013
A solar flare was reported, along with a coronal mass ejection. The CME's energy is headed for earth at about 630 miles a second. NASA says it could reach earth by Saturday and geo-magnetic storms are possible as well as increased aurora.

solen says no earth directed cme's. I don't see it on iswa either.


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and nothing on SWPC
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[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Watching that new guy in the middle, SO noticed it too. Its developing pretty fast!

[link to solen.info]

S2152 or 1645

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I did see the flare here after Psy gave me the link .... I didn't mention it thinking you'd all think I was in need of medication, as I checked it against GOES, and saw nothing !!!

[link to sdodata.oma.be]
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Published on Jan 2, 2013
A solar flare was reported, along with a coronal mass ejection. The CME's energy is headed for earth at about 630 miles a second. NASA says it could reach earth by Saturday and geo-magnetic storms are possible as well as increased aurora.

solen says no earth directed cme's. I don't see it on iswa either.


[link to youtu.be]

and nothing on SWPC
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Something is just not right here, and it really doesn't make much sense. The sheeple are in denial, even when you make them aware of a huge incoming CME, they laugh it (you) off. Why not just put it out there ??? Most people live in a world of denial what's the harm in telling the truth, or at the very least allowing us the data ???
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TS can you clarify what you are referring to when you say it's not making any sense?
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TS can you clarify what you are referring to when you say it's not making any sense?
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We apparently have an incoming cme from a nasa video. It doesn't show up anywhere on any of the charts
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TS can you clarify what you are referring to when you say it's not making any sense?
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We apparently have an incoming cme from a nasa video. It doesn't show up anywhere on any of the charts
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Gotcha, thanks.
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TS can you clarify what you are referring to when you say it's not making any sense?
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We apparently have an incoming cme from a nasa video. It doesn't show up anywhere on any of the charts
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Gotcha, thanks.
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Ditto.

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TS can you clarify what you are referring to when you say it's not making any sense?
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The deterioration of earth facing sunspots, only to have them go berserker on the far side, regardless of their classification. It makes no sense.

The idea that there were some electrical, magnetic pull, or other anomaly, even the galactic center itself was creating this scenario did not appeal to my sense of logic, until it seems as if there is no other reasoning behind it.

I assumed that last fall we would begin to see greater solar activity, as we had the fall of 2011, you know seasonal planetary configuration with the sun etc .... and there was none.

We are running out of excuses as to why earth facing sunspots die until they rotate over the western limb.

Of course it does not help that half of the data we use to see what is happening back there is suddenly unavailable ...

Very frustrating. I don't participate in a lot of theory, and depend on facts, but I listen to all of them for future use, and at times even in corroboration to the evidence/facts, but without the data .... well maybe I'll feel better tomorrow wink
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TS can you clarify what you are referring to when you say it's not making any sense?
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We apparently have an incoming cme from a nasa video. It doesn't show up anywhere on any of the charts
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That too hf lol.

Too many discrepancies, especially with GOES, and I hate to say it, markedly starting just before 12/21/12.
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Here is a site we haven't seen in a while. Wow!!!

[link to www.solarham.net]
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TS can you clarify what you are referring to when you say it's not making any sense?
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The deterioration of earth facing sunspots, only to have them go berserker on the far side, regardless of their classification. It makes no sense.

The idea that there were some electrical, magnetic pull, or other anomaly, even the galactic center itself was creating this scenario did not appeal to my sense of logic, until it seems as if there is no other reasoning behind it.

I assumed that last fall we would begin to see greater solar activity, as we had the fall of 2011, you know seasonal planetary configuration with the sun etc .... and there was none.

We are running out of excuses as to why earth facing sunspots die until they rotate over the western limb.

Of course it does not help that half of the data we use to see what is happening back there is suddenly unavailable ...

Very frustrating. I don't participate in a lot of theory, and depend on facts, but I listen to all of them for future use, and at times even in corroboration to the evidence/facts, but without the data .... well maybe I'll feel better tomorrow wink
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When there is no sunspot activity on the earth-facing side that means increased cosmic rays from the sun reaching the Earth and this also contributes to a weakened magnetosphere, yes? (I'm not certain of what I have just said so I'm posing it as a question, lol)

What are the implications for Earth if there is a continued period of low sunspot activity on the Earth facing side?
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TS can you clarify what you are referring to when you say it's not making any sense?
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The deterioration of earth facing sunspots, only to have them go berserker on the far side, regardless of their classification. It makes no sense.

The idea that there were some electrical, magnetic pull, or other anomaly, even the galactic center itself was creating this scenario did not appeal to my sense of logic, until it seems as if there is no other reasoning behind it.

I assumed that last fall we would begin to see greater solar activity, as we had the fall of 2011, you know seasonal planetary configuration with the sun etc .... and there was none.

We are running out of excuses as to why earth facing sunspots die until they rotate over the western limb.

Of course it does not help that half of the data we use to see what is happening back there is suddenly unavailable ...

Very frustrating. I don't participate in a lot of theory, and depend on facts, but I listen to all of them for future use, and at times even in corroboration to the evidence/facts, but without the data .... well maybe I'll feel better tomorrow wink
 Quoting: TS66


When there is no sunspot activity on the earth-facing side that means increased cosmic rays from the sun reaching the Earth and this also contributes to a weakened magnetosphere, yes? (I'm not certain of what I have just said so I'm posing it as a question, lol)

What are the implications for Earth if there is a continued period of low sunspot activity on the Earth facing side?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


There are some that believe that gamma bursts are effecting the Earth in a multitude of ways, I don't know that I have ever heard or read that they would have an effect on earth facing sunspots.

What we do know for certain however, is that the Solar Maximum's geo effectiveness on Earth is what strengthens our magnetosphere, and right now we are sorely in need of a steady increase of Solar activity. There is nothing saying we could withstand a significant CME or resulting geo magnetic storm as our magnetosphere is currently compromised. So we hope for an uptick in solar activity.

As for what is preventing sunspots from activity when earth facing, but allow activity on the far side, is the current quandary, at least mine. wink

GOES is flat lined ... it may be being fudged by NASA as we have flares that are not registering on the Xray chart, but earth directed CME's have be reported. If GOES was working properly, we would have already seen this flare and resulting CME coming, instead of having to search for it hidden on google.

Just too many unanswered questions and discrepancies to be able to interpret what is happening.
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TS can you clarify what you are referring to when you say it's not making any sense?
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The deterioration of earth facing sunspots, only to have them go berserker on the far side, regardless of their classification. It makes no sense.

The idea that there were some electrical, magnetic pull, or other anomaly, even the galactic center itself was creating this scenario did not appeal to my sense of logic, until it seems as if there is no other reasoning behind it.

I assumed that last fall we would begin to see greater solar activity, as we had the fall of 2011, you know seasonal planetary configuration with the sun etc .... and there was none.

We are running out of excuses as to why earth facing sunspots die until they rotate over the western limb.

Of course it does not help that half of the data we use to see what is happening back there is suddenly unavailable ...

Very frustrating. I don't participate in a lot of theory, and depend on facts, but I listen to all of them for future use, and at times even in corroboration to the evidence/facts, but without the data .... well maybe I'll feel better tomorrow wink
 Quoting: TS66



Nicely said!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Here is a site we haven't seen in a while. Wow!!!

[link to www.solarham.net]
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Wow is right , nice to see these groupings coming in!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Blip from 1640

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Here is a site we haven't seen in a while. Wow!!!

[link to www.solarham.net]
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Wow is right , nice to see these groupings coming in!
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What will it mean for Earth ???

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Almost a C-flare! B9.4 from 1640-

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

STEREO Images are normal again. The EUVI Behind movie shows a couple of far-side eruptions-

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SDO images are still intermittent and not current. I found the magnetic field map interesting. Look at all of the open field lines in the north polar region and almost none in the south.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Did they flip the switch back on at 20:00 or what ???? lol
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Woohoo-our biggest flare since Christmas.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


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Woohoo-our biggest flare since Christmas.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


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Be honest Hugh, you don't find this the least bit fishy ???
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Woohoo-our biggest flare since Christmas.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


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Be honest Hugh, you don't find this the least bit fishy ???
 Quoting: TS66


Fishy? No. A little disappointing, yes. I was hoping for a Solar Max to at least come close to the last two zingers. We could have truly witnessed some amazing stuff with SDO, SOHO, STEREO all working together with the internets and GLP. We may not have this opportunity 10 years from now. I had dream about a rogue x-flare, so keep hope alive.

Mt. Wilson Solar Observatory:

[link to obs.astro.ucla.edu]

Interesting solar magnetic info-
[link to obs.astro.ucla.edu]

Supersynoptic Chart 1974-2012:

[link to obs.astro.ucla.edu]

Nice French Solar site:

[link to bass2000.obspm.fr]

weird radio movie?:
ftp://ftpbass2000.obspm.fr/jrh_film/MPG_13/MPG_1301/nrh020120​13_3270.mpg
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Here are todays sun pics.hf

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Woohoo-our biggest flare since Christmas.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


5abanana25abanana25a
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Be honest Hugh, you don't find this the least bit fishy ???
 Quoting: TS66


Fishy? No. A little disappointing, yes. I was hoping for a Solar Max to at least come close to the last two zingers. We could have truly witnessed some amazing stuff with SDO, SOHO, STEREO all working together with the internets and GLP. We may not have this opportunity 10 years from now. I had dream about a rogue x-flare, so keep hope alive.

Mt. Wilson Solar Observatory:

[link to obs.astro.ucla.edu]

Interesting solar magnetic info-
[link to obs.astro.ucla.edu]

Supersynoptic Chart 1974-2012:

[link to obs.astro.ucla.edu]

Nice French Solar site:

[link to bass2000.obspm.fr]

weird radio movie?:
ftp://ftpbass2000.obspm.fr/jrh_film/MPG_13/MPG_1301/nrh020120​13_3270.mpg
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Fair enough.


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