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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Beautiful Images Of Last Night's Quadrantid Meteor Shower [link to www.businessinsider.com]
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look at ACE, 15:23 and 15:24
Density hit 127.2 and 133.0
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

you can look through all the ACE charts here and see there was a spike in everything at that same time
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

view the 6hr charts to see best
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look at ACE, 15:23 and 15:24
Density hit 127.2 and 133.0
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

you can look through all the ACE charts here and see there was a spike in everything at that same time
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

view the 6hr charts to see best
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Howdy, NINhf is that the same time-frame spike we saw a couple of weeks back (Dec. 12, 13)? I've noticed it the past 2 days at least. In addition to my previous theory of a hiccup in the ACE on-board chronometer, I have another possibility. Maybe a power surge when the CalTech maintenance crew fires up their Mr. Coffee every morning...just a thought, haha. It seems to always happen at 7:30AM PST.
[link to www.srl.caltech.edu]

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look at ACE, 15:23 and 15:24
Density hit 127.2 and 133.0
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

you can look through all the ACE charts here and see there was a spike in everything at that same time
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

view the 6hr charts to see best
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Howdy, NINhf is that the same time-frame spike we saw a couple of weeks back (Dec. 12, 13)? I've noticed it the past 2 days at least. In addition to my previous theory of a hiccup in the ACE on-board chronometer, I have another possibility. Maybe a power surge when the CalTech maintenance crew fires up their Mr. Coffee every morning...just a thought, haha. It seems to always happen at 7:30AM PST.
[link to www.srl.caltech.edu]

coffeecup
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


morning Hugh :)
good memory!
yes its the same time
here are the ones i have saved on my notes


there is a big Density spike at 15:32 and 15:33
Dec 23, 2012
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Ace @ 15:32
Solar Wind: 316.3
Density: 25.9

Ace @ 15:33
Solar Wind: 293.2
Density: 97.7
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


quite close to the times of 15:28 and 15:29 that we seen the same spike on Dec 12th & 13th
Dec 12, 2012
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Dec 13, 2012
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


im going to go through the last month or so and doccument any other i find in the same time frame
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The far-side CME was very big eruption. A giant Hyder flare & tsunami wave can be seen on the STEREO Ahead EUVI movie:

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Latest SOHO C3 image shows a nice CME:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

SOHO C2 image:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

NASA Cone Model of latest CME:

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

:1/6CME:
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just a thought....
how many gap and odd spikes are recorded during a ground receiver change.
as the satellite switches over from one ground receiver to another.
i am seeing many of the -999 readings matching...now are many other spikes happening during these overlay changeovers?
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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From NOAA Discussion-

.24 hr Summary...
Solar activity was low. The largest flare was a C3 from Region 1653
(N09E78) at 06/0303 UTC. There are currently 14 numbered regions on the
visible disk. A non-Earth-directed CME was observed in LASCO C2 at 0548
UTC. It was caused by a large filament eruption visible on STEREO-A
EUVI.


.Forecast...
Solar activity is expected to be at low levels with a chance for further
M-class flares (R1-R2 radio blackouts) for the forecast period (06-08
Jan). Regions 1650 and 1652 are the most likely producers of M-class
activity

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

I think NOAA has just given 1640 the go-ahead to unleash a monster flare, LOL.

AR1652 Magnetogram Displays Complex Fields-
:1652mag:

Although it's a much smaller region than 1652, AR1653 looks brighter in certain wavelengths-
:1652&3comp:
Tongue Of Plasma from 1653-
:1/6plasma:
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just a thought....
how many gap and odd spikes are recorded during a ground receiver change.
as the satellite switches over from one ground receiver to another.
i am seeing many of the -999 readings matching...now are many other spikes happening during these overlay changeovers?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Good theory, Psyoptics, I hadn't considered that possibility. Does the time-frame coincide with a change in telemetry downlinks? I'm still leaning towards the Mr. Coffee scenario. Does anyone know the layout at Cal Tech? Do they have a super-collider there? A nuclear reactor? Just wondering...actually I tend to ignore momentary spikes as well as oddball image artifacts and try to focus on the BIG picture. However, to each his own preference.

Has everyone seen this photo yet?

[link to spaceweather.com]
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
just a thought....
how many gap and odd spikes are recorded during a ground receiver change.
as the satellite switches over from one ground receiver to another.
i am seeing many of the -999 readings matching...now are many other spikes happening during these overlay changeovers?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Good theory, Psyoptics, I hadn't considered that possibility. Does the time-frame coincide with a change in telemetry downlinks? I'm still leaning towards the Mr. Coffee scenario. Does anyone know the layout at Cal Tech? Do they have a super-collider there? A nuclear reactor? Just wondering...actually I tend to ignore momentary spikes as well as oddball image artifacts and try to focus on the BIG picture. However, to each his own preference.

Has everyone seen this photo yet?

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


in order to see the Big picture
you need to look at the Whole picture
because All scientific information is important and valuable
to ignore any information, no matter how small and insignifant it may seem at the time, is to never reach the Big picture
you have a great mind and scientific determination
i still have hope that one day you will step outside of the "data" box and consider all options, theories and ideas that others present :)
it's the one quality that all great scientist are made of


Logic will get you from A to B.
Imagination will take you everywhere.
- Albert Einstein
hf
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in order to see the Big picture
you need to look at the Whole picture
because All scientific information is important and valuable
to ignore any information, no matter how small and insignificant it may seem at the time, is to never reach the Big picture
you have a great mind and scientific determination
i still have hope that one day you will step outside of the "data" box and consider all options, theories and ideas that others present :)
it's the one quality that all great scientist are made of


Logic will get you from A to B.
Imagination will take you everywhere.
- Albert Einstein
hf
 Quoting: NiNzrez


May you continue to rock the known universe out of its, oh, so restrictive cradle NiNzrez.

headbang

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in order to see the Big picture
you need to look at the Whole picture
because All scientific information is important and valuable
to ignore any information, no matter how small and insignificant it may seem at the time, is to never reach the Big picture
you have a great mind and scientific determination
i still have hope that one day you will step outside of the "data" box and consider all options, theories and ideas that others present :)
it's the one quality that all great scientist are made of


Logic will get you from A to B.
Imagination will take you everywhere.
- Albert Einstein
hf
 Quoting: NiNzrez


May you continue to rock the known universe out of it oh so restrictive cradle NiNzrez.

headbang

Z
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thanks a ton Z :)
as always, glad to see you around
hf
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we have a little bit of a disturbance going on
just before 20:00 at ACE we see eratic readings on density, radial speed and temps
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
along with this, the Bz is dipping into the negative
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Ace @ 21:07 UTC
Wind Speed: 353.7
Density: 13.7
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Bz: -4.0
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Sunspot patterns seem to mimic or mirror one another at 2 O clock and 8 O clock.

damned

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Sunspot patterns seem to mimic one another at 2 O clock and 8 O clock.

damned
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Cool find DF!
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we have a little bit of a disturbance going on
just before 20:00 at ACE we see eratic readings on density, radial speed and temps
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
along with this, the Bz is dipping into the negative
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Ace @ 21:07 UTC
Wind Speed: 353.7
Density: 13.7
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Bz: -4.0
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Aren't we due for the start of the Coronal Hole streams just about now ???
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SWOOPS image of solar wind at solar minimum and solar maximum
[link to sci.esa.int]
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just a thought....
how many gap and odd spikes are recorded during a ground receiver change.
as the satellite switches over from one ground receiver to another.
i am seeing many of the -999 readings matching...now are many other spikes happening during these overlay changeovers?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Good theory, Psyoptics, I hadn't considered that possibility. Does the time-frame coincide with a change in telemetry downlinks? I'm still leaning towards the Mr. Coffee scenario. Does anyone know the layout at Cal Tech? Do they have a super-collider there? A nuclear reactor? Just wondering...actually I tend to ignore momentary spikes as well as oddball image artifacts and try to focus on the BIG picture. However, to each his own preference.

Has everyone seen this photo yet?

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


in order to see the Big picture
you need to look at the Whole picture
because All scientific information is important and valuable
to ignore any information, no matter how small and insignifant it may seem at the time, is to never reach the Big picture
you have a great mind and scientific determination
i still have hope that one day you will step outside of the "data" box and consider all options, theories and ideas that others present :)
it's the one quality that all great scientist are made of


Logic will get you from A to B.
Imagination will take you everywhere.
- Albert Einstein
hf
 Quoting: NiNzrez


bump
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earth is moving into the same spot where we saw a lot of activity last year......
remember the end of january 2012...
when the sol took us for a ride and gave us a wicked show for a few months....
this year will be wicked awesome....

thanks for all the info folks...

hf
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so as we rotate around the sun.....

are we not rotating towards the backside.....

towards all the activity.....

or is god protecting us....lol


or is the pentagon protecting us lol.....

I think not....

we are getting closer to the activity as we rotate around the sol.....

or maybe not.....

it wouldnt be the first time some one called me STUPID....


thanks for all your info
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

how much weirdness is happening during these changeover times.
snip
The display shows the ACE Real Time Solar Wind (RTSW) data received and processed by SWPC as a function of time. It indicates the currency of the ACE RTSW data and the total temporal coverage achieved by the network. Data received from each ground system in the RTSW tracking partnership are displayed in their respective panels with the total tracking coverage shown at the bottom.
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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What's going on at 4 o clock just a lot of missing data?
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Good night all. Peace
I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Then it dawned on me.
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

how much weirdness is happening during these changeover times.
snip
The display shows the ACE Real Time Solar Wind (RTSW) data received and processed by SWPC as a function of time. It indicates the currency of the ACE RTSW data and the total temporal coverage achieved by the network. Data received from each ground system in the RTSW tracking partnership are displayed in their respective panels with the total tracking coverage shown at the bottom.
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Good detective work, Psy,.rockon and thanks for that link. This rules out the tracking changeover being the source of the data-burp @15:30z. The chart shows a downlink to WCDA began at 13:00z on both days and lasted past 16:00z on Jan. 5th and 21:00z on Jan. 6th. I think NINzrez should call Cal Tech first thing in the morning and get to the bottom of this, LOL.
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WND EXCLUSIVE - Solar storm aftermath? $2 trillion in fixes
Scientists expect massive event to hit by next year
WASHINGTON – It was in January 1994 that two Canadian telecommunications satellites blanked out during a major sunburst while in geosynchronous orbit and communications were disrupted nationwide.
While recovery occurred after only a few hours on the first satellite, it took some six months and more than $70 million to recover the second satellite.
Then in January 2005, some 26 United Airlines flights had to be diverted during a space weather storm to non-polar routes – to avoid the prospect of high frequency radio blackouts.
Added were landings and takeoffs, flight time and other factors that elevated fuel consumption and costs. Each route change ended up costing more than $100,000.
Then in February 2011, there was a sun eruption experts described as the largest solar flare in four years. It caused interference in radio communications and global positioning system signals for aircraft traveling long-distances.
While it was a modest outburst, experts say it signaled the beginning of an upcoming solar storm.
The National Aeronautical and Space Administration along with the National Academy of Sciences is predicting that the Earth could be subjected to a solar storm maximum as part of the sun’s 11-year cycle.
If there is a direct hit, these agencies say that the impact could be catastrophic.
They say, brace yourself, it could cost upwards of $2 trillion in the first two years, affecting some 160 million people and could take anywhere from four to 10 years to recover.
“The sun has an activity cycle, much like hurricane season,” said Tom Bogdan, director of the Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder, Colo. “It’s been hibernating for four or five years, not doing much of anything.”
The full article is here: [link to www.wnd.com]
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What's going on at 4 o clock just a lot of missing data?
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Yep, even in outer space "S__T HAPPP3NS", haha.

alien16
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What's going on at 4 o clock just a lot of missing data?
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Yep, even in outer space "S__T HAPPP3NS", haha.

alien16
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Even bigger SOHO data gaps in the solar wind plot:

[link to umtof.umd.edu]

And proton density plot:

[link to umtof.umd.edu]
wtf
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

how much weirdness is happening during these changeover times.
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The display shows the ACE Real Time Solar Wind (RTSW) data received and processed by SWPC as a function of time. It indicates the currency of the ACE RTSW data and the total temporal coverage achieved by the network. Data received from each ground system in the RTSW tracking partnership are displayed in their respective panels with the total tracking coverage shown at the bottom.
 Quoting: psyoptics


[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
What's going on at 4 o clock just a lot of missing data?
 Quoting: Da fuq


Yep, even in outer space "S__T HAPPP3NS", haha.

alien16
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Even bigger SOHO data gaps in the solar wind plot:

[link to umtof.umd.edu]

And proton density plot:

[link to umtof.umd.edu]
wtf
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Maybe this has something to do with it? Sunspot number: 186
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

how much weirdness is happening during these changeover times.
snip
The display shows the ACE Real Time Solar Wind (RTSW) data received and processed by SWPC as a function of time. It indicates the currency of the ACE RTSW data and the total temporal coverage achieved by the network. Data received from each ground system in the RTSW tracking partnership are displayed in their respective panels with the total tracking coverage shown at the bottom.
 Quoting: psyoptics


Good detective work, Psy,.rockon and thanks for that link. This rules out the tracking changeover being the source of the data-burp @15:30z. The chart shows a downlink to WCDA began at 13:00z on both days and lasted past 16:00z on Jan. 5th and 21:00z on Jan. 6th. I think NINzrez should call Cal Tech first thing in the morning and get to the bottom of this, LOL.
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You guys have all done great work on this. These are the blips that make this work fun. Great minds all the way around, now we just look for an answer!Peace
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More space-related odds and ends-

Magnetic Fields Created Before the First Stars Formed-

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

Military-Industrial-Complex Crying Poor Again--wants more cash to upgrade military space communications. I hope no one believes that huge Pentagon budget is really for feeding the troops, lol.

[link to www.spacewar.com]

ESA's Herschel Space Observatory is Doomed-

With its 2160 liters of liquid helium about to run out, the Herschel Space Observatory will, by the end of March, become just another piece of space junk.
[link to www.spacedaily.com]

I saved the best for last....

Beautiful gallery of SWIFT images released. Many side-by-side images of galaxies, clusters, nebulae and more in Visible, Ultraviolet, and X-Ray wavelengths. Here's a sample...M31 the Andromeda Galaxy in ultraviolet:
[link to www.swift.psu.edu]

Full SWIFT Gallery here:
[link to www.swift.psu.edu]
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BREAKING NEWS FLASH!

GALACTIC UNDERSTANDING IS UP-ENDED! (not again)

SURPRISE, GIANT PANCAKE STRUCTURE FOUND NEAR ANDROMEDA GALAXY!!

The study reveals almost 30 dwarf galaxies orbiting the larger Andromeda galaxy in this regular, solar system-like plane. The astronomers' expectations were that these smaller galaxies should be buzzing around randomly, like bees around a hive.

"This was completely unexpected," said Geraint Lewis, one of the lead authors on the Nature publication. "The chance of this happening randomly is next to nothing." The fact that astronomers now see that a majority of these little systems in fact contrive to map out an immensely large - approximately one million light years across - but extremely flattened structure, implies that this understanding is grossly incorrect.
[link to www.spacedaily.com]

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