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| Kael User ID: 1451069 02/02/2013 06:26 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | C3 Flare run for the caves! ![]() "Thou we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven that which we are, we are. One equal temper of heroic hearts made weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yield" |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/02/2013 07:23 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SDO Solarsoft close-up movie of C2.9 flare from 1667: [link to sdowww.lmsal.com] A faint thin filament may be lifting off near mid-disk (not the dark fattie): [link to halpha.nso.edu] Anyone have info on the CME seen by SOHO? I just got in and need to dig up some more imagery for this one. Here's the STEREO Behind cor 2 movie of CME: [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] NOAA has also issued a K-4 Warning- [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| Tiny Trink User ID: 28990460 02/02/2013 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Congrats Nin and Everyone on 1700 Pages!! Much Love, Tiny Trink, Double T, Tink Tink, T x 2 "You are responsible for the Energy you bring into a space" ~ Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor Shine Brightly as someone is needing your Inner Light to find theirs. |
| whiteangel User ID: 1775746 02/02/2013 08:31 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] What is hitting? I may be paranoid but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. May the Angels clear the way for you. Psalm 91:11-12(NKJV) 11 For He shall give His angels charge over you,To keep you in all your ways. 12 In their hands they shall bear you up,Lest you dash your foot against a stone. |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/02/2013 08:34 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Woo-hoo! ![]() I hope we see an X-5 before 2001 pages, LOL. "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/02/2013 08:46 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Little teensy-weensy sub-atomic particles. Haha, just joking whiteangel...things are getting interesting in geospace, too. Here's NOAA's SW Forecast- Solar Wind .24 hr Summary... The high speed stream that began late yesterday remained in effect. During the period, solar wind speed at ACE rose from around 400 km/s to end in the upper 400 to lower 500 km/s range. Bz varied between +/- 10 nT and total field reached about 12 nT during the onset of the high speed stream. By the end of the day, Bz had settled to +/- 5 nT and total field has diminished to about 5 nT. The solar sector orientation was generally toward (negative) with the exception of a brief excursion into the positive sector between 02/1500-1600 UTC. ACE spacecraft data indicated the low energy particle flux was still rising at the time of this report indicating the CME had not yet arrived. .Forecast... Solar wind speed is expected to remain enhanced through the forecast period. The current equatorial coronal hole is expected to be followed shortly by a negative polarity northern hemisphere coronal hole. The solar wind will further be complicated by the expected arrival on day 1 (03 Feb) of a glancing blow from the 31 January CME. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| whiteangel User ID: 1775746 02/02/2013 09:01 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Little teensy-weensy sub-atomic particles. Haha, just joking whiteangel...things are getting interesting in geospace, too. Here's NOAA's SW Forecast- Solar Wind .24 hr Summary... The high speed stream that began late yesterday remained in effect. During the period, solar wind speed at ACE rose from around 400 km/s to end in the upper 400 to lower 500 km/s range. Bz varied between +/- 10 nT and total field reached about 12 nT during the onset of the high speed stream. By the end of the day, Bz had settled to +/- 5 nT and total field has diminished to about 5 nT. The solar sector orientation was generally toward (negative) with the exception of a brief excursion into the positive sector between 02/1500-1600 UTC. ACE spacecraft data indicated the low energy particle flux was still rising at the time of this report indicating the CME had not yet arrived. .Forecast... Solar wind speed is expected to remain enhanced through the forecast period. The current equatorial coronal hole is expected to be followed shortly by a negative polarity northern hemisphere coronal hole. The solar wind will further be complicated by the expected arrival on day 1 (03 Feb) of a glancing blow from the 31 January CME. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Thank you Hugh. I noticed here the small CME [link to www.solarham.net] but didn't think it was enough to really make a change in the magnetosphere, even if it isn't a big change. I know you aren't into all the "other" stuff, at least not on this thread but with the time frames that BendingLight has been talking about, I have kept the [link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] link up and noticed the change a little while ago. Been out with the flu so haven't been keeping up like I should be, still playing catch up, still trying to get well, so brain isn't on full thrusters yet! Thanks again! ![]() I may be paranoid but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. May the Angels clear the way for you. Psalm 91:11-12(NKJV) 11 For He shall give His angels charge over you,To keep you in all your ways. 12 In their hands they shall bear you up,Lest you dash your foot against a stone. |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/02/2013 09:08 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Weird Coronal Mass OOzing- :2/2WTF?: The Sun never ceases to amaze me with new things. This huge CME evolved in slow-motion over the course of at least 11 or 12 hours! I still can't find any one source event to trigger this, but it seems to be somehow connected to "Old Wimpy" 1654. It almost looks like half the sun's atmosphere just peeled away slowly and drifted into space....most strange. SOHO C3 image of slo-mo CME: [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] [link to www.youtube.com] "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/02/2013 09:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Little teensy-weensy sub-atomic particles. Haha, just joking whiteangel...things are getting interesting in geospace, too. Here's NOAA's SW Forecast- Solar Wind .24 hr Summary... The high speed stream that began late yesterday remained in effect. During the period, solar wind speed at ACE rose from around 400 km/s to end in the upper 400 to lower 500 km/s range. Bz varied between +/- 10 nT and total field reached about 12 nT during the onset of the high speed stream. By the end of the day, Bz had settled to +/- 5 nT and total field has diminished to about 5 nT. The solar sector orientation was generally toward (negative) with the exception of a brief excursion into the positive sector between 02/1500-1600 UTC. ACE spacecraft data indicated the low energy particle flux was still rising at the time of this report indicating the CME had not yet arrived. .Forecast... Solar wind speed is expected to remain enhanced through the forecast period. The current equatorial coronal hole is expected to be followed shortly by a negative polarity northern hemisphere coronal hole. The solar wind will further be complicated by the expected arrival on day 1 (03 Feb) of a glancing blow from the 31 January CME. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Thank you Hugh. I noticed here the small CME [link to www.solarham.net] but didn't think it was enough to really make a change in the magnetosphere, even if it isn't a big change. I know you aren't into all the "other" stuff, at least not on this thread but with the time frames that BendingLight has been talking about, I have kept the [link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] link up and noticed the change a little while ago. Been out with the flu so haven't been keeping up like I should be, still playing catch up, still trying to get well, so brain isn't on full thrusters yet! Thanks again! ![]() Well have some chicken soup and get well soon! "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/02/2013 09:17 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Year of the Comet: Third comet set to make appearance in April 2013 Quoting: Luisport Posted on February 2, 2013by The Extinction Protocol February 2, 2013 – GREEN COMET LEMMON - 2013 could be the Year of the Comet. Comet Pan-STARRS is set to become a naked eye object in March, followed by possibly-Great Comet ISON in November. Now we must add to that list green Comet Lemmon (C/2012 F6). “Comet Lemmon is putting on a great show for us down in the southern hemisphere,” reports John Drummond, who sent us a picture from Gisborne, New Zealand: “I took the picture on Jan. 23rd using a 41 cm (16 in) Meade reflector,” says Drummond. “It is a stack of twenty 1 minute exposures.” That much time was required for a good view of the comet’s approximately 7th-magnitude coma (“coma”=cloud of gas surrounding the comet’s nucleus). Lemmon’s green color comes from the gases that make up its coma. Jets spewing from the comet’s nucleus contain cyanogen (CN: a poisonous gas found in many comets) and diatomic carbon (C2). Both substances glow green when illuminated by sunlight in the near-vacuum of space. Discovered on March 23rd 2012 by the Mount Lemmon survey in Arizona, Comet Lemmon is on an elliptical orbit with a period of almost 11,000 years. This is its first visit to the inner solar system in a very long time. The comet is brightening as it approaches the sun; light curves suggest that it will reach 2nd or 3rd magnitude, similar to the stars in the Big Dipper, in late March when it approaches the sun at about the same distance as Venus (0.7 AU). Northern hemisphere observers will get their first good look at the comet in early April; until then it is a target exclusively for astronomers in the southern hemisphere. –Space Weather [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com] Awesome hi-res, long-exposure image of Comet Lemmon: [link to spaceweather.com] "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| whiteangel User ID: 1775746 02/02/2013 09:19 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could that weird slo-mo CME be from a filament we can't see? Those are usually eruptions, so I am scratching my head also. I may be paranoid but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. May the Angels clear the way for you. Psalm 91:11-12(NKJV) 11 For He shall give His angels charge over you,To keep you in all your ways. 12 In their hands they shall bear you up,Lest you dash your foot against a stone. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11695896 02/02/2013 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Year of the Comet: Third comet set to make appearance in April 2013 Quoting: Luisport Posted on February 2, 2013by The Extinction Protocol February 2, 2013 – GREEN COMET LEMMON - 2013 could be the Year of the Comet. Comet Pan-STARRS is set to become a naked eye object in March, followed by possibly-Great Comet ISON in November. Now we must add to that list green Comet Lemmon (C/2012 F6). “Comet Lemmon is putting on a great show for us down in the southern hemisphere,” reports John Drummond, who sent us a picture from Gisborne, New Zealand: “I took the picture on Jan. 23rd using a 41 cm (16 in) Meade reflector,” says Drummond. “It is a stack of twenty 1 minute exposures.” That much time was required for a good view of the comet’s approximately 7th-magnitude coma (“coma”=cloud of gas surrounding the comet’s nucleus). Lemmon’s green color comes from the gases that make up its coma. Jets spewing from the comet’s nucleus contain cyanogen (CN: a poisonous gas found in many comets) and diatomic carbon (C2). Both substances glow green when illuminated by sunlight in the near-vacuum of space. Discovered on March 23rd 2012 by the Mount Lemmon survey in Arizona, Comet Lemmon is on an elliptical orbit with a period of almost 11,000 years. This is its first visit to the inner solar system in a very long time. The comet is brightening as it approaches the sun; light curves suggest that it will reach 2nd or 3rd magnitude, similar to the stars in the Big Dipper, in late March when it approaches the sun at about the same distance as Venus (0.7 AU). Northern hemisphere observers will get their first good look at the comet in early April; until then it is a target exclusively for astronomers in the southern hemisphere. –Space Weather [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com] Awesome hi-res, long-exposure image of Comet Lemmon: [link to spaceweather.com] Quasar? Mabie? |
| Isis One User ID: 14343270 02/02/2013 09:46 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Year of the Comet: Third comet set to make appearance in April 2013 Quoting: Luisport Posted on February 2, 2013by The Extinction Protocol February 2, 2013 – GREEN COMET LEMMON - 2013 could be the Year of the Comet. Comet Pan-STARRS is set to become a naked eye object in March, followed by possibly-Great Comet ISON in November. Now we must add to that list green Comet Lemmon (C/2012 F6). “Comet Lemmon is putting on a great show for us down in the southern hemisphere,” reports John Drummond, who sent us a picture from Gisborne, New Zealand: “I took the picture on Jan. 23rd using a 41 cm (16 in) Meade reflector,” says Drummond. “It is a stack of twenty 1 minute exposures.” That much time was required for a good view of the comet’s approximately 7th-magnitude coma (“coma”=cloud of gas surrounding the comet’s nucleus). Lemmon’s green color comes from the gases that make up its coma. Jets spewing from the comet’s nucleus contain cyanogen (CN: a poisonous gas found in many comets) and diatomic carbon (C2). Both substances glow green when illuminated by sunlight in the near-vacuum of space. Discovered on March 23rd 2012 by the Mount Lemmon survey in Arizona, Comet Lemmon is on an elliptical orbit with a period of almost 11,000 years. This is its first visit to the inner solar system in a very long time. The comet is brightening as it approaches the sun; light curves suggest that it will reach 2nd or 3rd magnitude, similar to the stars in the Big Dipper, in late March when it approaches the sun at about the same distance as Venus (0.7 AU). Northern hemisphere observers will get their first good look at the comet in early April; until then it is a target exclusively for astronomers in the southern hemisphere. –Space Weather [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com] Awesome hi-res, long-exposure image of Comet Lemmon: [link to spaceweather.com] Hi Hugh, thanks for updates, I just got in too and checked kp on a whim and see we had minor action all day. Excellent image of Lemmon, wouldn't wanna catch any of that off gasing, yikes. Isis One |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26558348 02/02/2013 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This article is interesting - theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/colossal-cosmic-collision-coming-this-year-at-center-of-the-galaxy-say-awestruck-astronomers/ States a gas cloud is set to collide with the blackhole in the center of the universe in a few months. This timing coincides with the Earth crossing between the galactic center and our sun. |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/02/2013 10:41 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could that weird slo-mo CME be from a filament we can't see? Those are usually eruptions, so I am scratching my head also. Quoting: whiteangel Well the first thing I thought of was that shape-shifting prominence on the SE limb, but when I looked it was still there. Next I went back about 8 hours looking for a large limb eruption from old '54 and only found a small one which was way too late to account for this CME. My best theory (until I see a better one) is that two enormous helmet streamers, one from old '54 and one from the southern hemisphere, were somehow magnetically entangled until the field broke down and they escaped the sun. The weird thing is that most of this took place so far up in the corona (actually BEYOND it) that it was outside the field of view of the SDO imagers and the GONG Network scopes! I checked the STEREO B EUVI movie before they took it down and didn't see anything huge there either. The best instrument for seeing this is probably the STEREO Cor 1 coronagraphs, but the lo-res images they post online are absolutely atrocious (unusable). It takes a few days for them to post the processed pics and by then we're already 3 or 4 events down the road...ahhhh. I'm just curious enough to back and look some more. Anyway, we'll soon see what Old Wimpy brings to the table now. Did this event unleash his super powers? Or did this totally seal him in kryptonite? And what about the South? Will it ever rise again?.....Stay tuned, Sol-fans. SDO 304 image of nice limb-flare from old '54 w/some ejecta: [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Latest AIA 171a image-Wow, look at that east limb! [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] :2/2flare: Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 02/02/2013 10:43 PM "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/02/2013 11:44 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An interesting solar week ahead is shaping up. AR1667 is growing and has produced two C2 flares in the past 8 hours. Another bi-polar region is forming just to the west of AR1665. AR1667 Growing- :2/3-1667: AR1667 Magnetogram- :1667mag: .24 hr Summary... A C2 flare at 02/1958 UTC from Region 1667 (N23E49) as well as an earlier C1 flare from Region 1665 (N10E09) brought solar activity to low levels. Slight growth was observed in Region 1667 and it remained the brightest region in GOES SXI imagery during the period. A sight uptick in x-ray background was observed after 02/1400 UTC. Meanwhile, region 1663 (S09W52) showed signs of decay. .Forecast... Solar activity is expected to be very low with a continued chance for C-class flares for the forecast period (03-05 Feb). [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Latest GOES SXI image (not how the X-Rays are off the left edge of the image!): [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] The GINORMOUS AR1654 is returning now. Take a look at this ST. Behind 171a image from a few days ago and note how huge this region remains; the positive and negative poles are nearly 30 degrees apart!! And those magnetic loops are so big they're falling all over into the southern hemisphere. [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] For some reason this Gentle Giant has produced very few strong flares....so far. I can't wait to get a better look at it. :2/3east171: "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| shenue User ID: 5263313 02/03/2013 12:07 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good night all. Peace ![]() Watch your thoughts, they become your words. Watch your words, they become your actions. Watch your actions, they become your habits. Watch your habits, they become your character. Watch your character, it becomes your destiny. |
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| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/03/2013 12:24 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Today's incoming CME seems to be behind schedule or a no-show. The ACE protons have been climbing all day: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] The ACE Solar Wind data showing smooth sailing for Spaceship Earth: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Event Issue Date: 2013-01-31 09:13:23.0 GMT CME Arrival Time: 2013-02-03 03:15:51.0 GMT Arival Time Confidence Level: ± 6 hours Disturbance Duration: 18 hours Disturbance Duration Confidence Level: ± 8 hours Magnetopause Standoff Distance: 6.3 Re Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary SRS Number 34 Issued at 0030Z on 03 Feb 2013 Report compiled from data received at SWO on 02 Feb I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 02/2400Z Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type 1662 N27W65 317 0040 Hsx 02 01 Alpha 1663 S09W52 303 0030 Cao 05 02 Beta 1665 N10E09 242 0140 Cao 06 06 Beta 1667 N23E49 202 0140 Dao 09 05 Beta Latest HMI Intensitygram: [link to jsoc.stanford.edu] Special Treat-here's an Earth-based coronagraph we hardly ever see here. It may take a moment to load (from Mauna Loa Solar Observatory): [link to mlso.hao.ucar.edu] "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| Da fuq User ID: 16258666 02/03/2013 12:39 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu] ![]() What causes the composites to go overly blue or green. [link to postimage.org] ![]() Last Edited by Da fuq on 02/03/2013 12:45 AM |
| Solar Guardian User ID: 33548164 02/03/2013 01:01 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu] Quoting: Da fuq ![]() What causes the composites to go overly blue or green. [link to postimage.org] ![]() That pic of the Sun with that huge pyramid-shaped coronal hole was from March of last year. During that time, there was a Gamma Ray burst emanated from the Sun, as well as a Magnetopause Reversal on Earth on March 12 2012. Alex Collier says pole shift by the end of October 2013. |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/03/2013 01:14 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, none of those things happened except in some internet funhouse mirror-world. Don't believe the suspicious hype, demand the proof not hyberbole. ![]() Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 02/03/2013 01:17 AM "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/03/2013 01:14 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have an C8.4-flare. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] ![]() "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
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| Solar Guardian User ID: 33558918 02/03/2013 01:29 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think there was a thread somewhere here where somebody(probably an AC) stated that LaViolette's Galactic Superwave would reach our solar system sometime around February 13-early March 2013. Does anybody know what's the title of that thread and on what page it was posted? Alex Collier says pole shift by the end of October 2013. |
| Da fuq User ID: 16258666 02/03/2013 01:42 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] The sun looks like a child scribbled all over it. Wtf is wrong with it... [link to postimage.org] Nice shot of the C flare in that still. Last Edited by Da fuq on 02/03/2013 01:46 AM |
| Hugh M Eye User ID: 31662450 02/03/2013 01:47 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GLP -144; FAUX NEWS -0 Hey! FOX NEWS, what kinda big-time news organization are you clowns? This old 'news' was posted here with links to the leaked documents before Christmas. Da Fuq even started a thread about it, haha. [link to www.foxnews.com] Thread: THIS IS IT ... The reason for all the extreme weather across the world, plus every other anomaly currently happening. FoX should be thanking us for getting the story out 36 days before they did! "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-Albert Einstein |
| Solar Guardian User ID: 33548164 02/03/2013 01:51 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys, please go to this thread: Thread: February 18-March 8 2013 an increase in Earth's vibratory rate It explains why we have so many 6.0+ quakes the past few days.... Last Edited by Solar Guardian on 02/03/2013 01:51 AM Alex Collier says pole shift by the end of October 2013. |