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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Your very welcome SC

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Nemo rages on .... My son just called from RI and said his school is being evacuated due to no power of access for the past 2 days.

The choices, a nearby friends house, the local high school, or a homeless shelter. Oy !!
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hiAgent : )

:nemo:Doom.
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Hey Cesium ... well not doom (except for those that have lost someone of course), but boy we're screwed if something REALLY big comes down the pike !! lol I guess he also sprained his ankle attempting to push a truck out of a snow bank. No medical attention as of now, still just trying to get off campus. Such is life .... he's 20, time to figure things out.

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The latest polar field strength graphs shows the south pole rebounding and the north already flipped. Old Sol's really confused or he's playing cat-'n'-mouse with us.
Latest WSO Polar Fields:

[link to www.leif.org]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Hiya Hugh

Just a reminder, those rapid fluctuations in the chart don't actually indicate changes in strength, they are due to cyclical variation in the perspective of the Sun when viewed from Earth, due to our orbit and the Sun's axial tilt.

When looking at the graph, think of this image of a satellite's cyclical perspective as it orbits Earth: [link to www.scibuff.com]

Most of the "up and down" movement in Leif's chart is not an actual change in polar strength, but rather simply an indication of the movement of Earth around the Sun, and the changing perspectives that that combined with the Sun's axial tilt offers us.

"The Sun's rotation axis is tilted by about 7.25 degrees from the axis of the Earth's orbit so we see more of the Sun's north pole in September of each year and more of its south pole in March." [link to solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov]

So you have to look for major deviations from the previous repeating cycle to see actual changes in the strength. It's rather hard to explain, but I hope you follow me here.

With that in mind, the North pole hasn't actually quite flipped yet, as you can see on the chart the polemost readings are still barely hovering in negative polarity. But from the context of previous "rotations", we can see that the polemost region is weakening each pass, so this next pass of the Sun's northern polemost region may indeed confirm a flip.

If anyone needs further clarification of how to read the chart just let me know... I'm glad people are using it it's a lovely chart... just a little confusing by necessity.

(Sorry for length)

hf

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The latest polar field strength graphs shows the south pole rebounding and the north already flipped. Old Sol's really confused or he's playing cat-'n'-mouse with us.
Latest WSO Polar Fields:

[link to www.leif.org]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Hiya Hugh

Just a reminder, those rapid fluctuations in the chart don't actually indicate changes in strength, they are due to cyclical variation in the perspective of the Sun when viewed from Earth, due to our orbit and the Sun's axial tilt.

When looking at the graph, think of this image of a satellite's cyclical perspective as it orbits Earth: [link to www.scibuff.com]

Most of the "up and down" movement in Leif's chart is not an actual change in polar strength, but rather simply an indication of the movement of Earth around the Sun, and the changing perspectives that that combined with the Sun's axial tilt offers us.

"The Sun's rotation axis is tilted by about 7.25 degrees from the axis of the Earth's orbit so we see more of the Sun's north pole in September of each year and more of its south pole in March." [link to solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov]

So you have to look for major deviations from the previous repeating cycle to see actual changes in the strength. It's rather hard to explain, but I hope you follow me here.

With that in mind, the North pole hasn't actually quite flipped yet, as you can see on the chart the polemost readings are still barely hovering in negative polarity. But from the context of previous "rotations", we can see that the polemost region is weakening each pass, so this next pass of the Sun's northern polemost region may indeed confirm a flip.

If anyone needs further clarification of how to read the chart just let me know... I'm glad people are using it it's a lovely chart... just a little confusing by necessity.

(Sorry for length)

hf
 Quoting: madajs


Sorry, I guess I'm confused as to what those charts are showing. There is no key and I assumed the measurements were nT readings. I defer to your studied analysis of this so please let us know when something significant changes. Thanks for the correction, SolBuddy.
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The latest polar field strength graphs shows the south pole rebounding and the north already flipped. Old Sol's really confused or he's playing cat-'n'-mouse with us.
Latest WSO Polar Fields:

[link to www.leif.org]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Hiya Hugh

Just a reminder, those rapid fluctuations in the chart don't actually indicate changes in strength, they are due to cyclical variation in the perspective of the Sun when viewed from Earth, due to our orbit and the Sun's axial tilt.

When looking at the graph, think of this image of a satellite's cyclical perspective as it orbits Earth: [link to www.scibuff.com]

Most of the "up and down" movement in Leif's chart is not an actual change in polar strength, but rather simply an indication of the movement of Earth around the Sun, and the changing perspectives that that combined with the Sun's axial tilt offers us.

"The Sun's rotation axis is tilted by about 7.25 degrees from the axis of the Earth's orbit so we see more of the Sun's north pole in September of each year and more of its south pole in March." [link to solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov]

So you have to look for major deviations from the previous repeating cycle to see actual changes in the strength. It's rather hard to explain, but I hope you follow me here.

With that in mind, the North pole hasn't actually quite flipped yet, as you can see on the chart the polemost readings are still barely hovering in negative polarity. But from the context of previous "rotations", we can see that the polemost region is weakening each pass, so this next pass of the Sun's northern polemost region may indeed confirm a flip.

If anyone needs further clarification of how to read the chart just let me know... I'm glad people are using it it's a lovely chart... just a little confusing by necessity.

(Sorry for length)

hf
 Quoting: madajs


Sorry, I guess I'm confused as to what those charts are showing. There is no key and I assumed the measurements were nT readings. I defer to your studied analysis of this so please let us know when something significant changes. Thanks for the correction, SolBuddy.
farside
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Oh, the measurements are definitely µT. You just have to remember that the magnetic strength is stronger the closer you get to the poles (for most of the cycle, at least), and so the closer your measurements are to the pole the stronger the readings will be.

WSO gets it's best view of the South pole in March, and it's best view of the North pole in September, that's the reason why in the Leif chart the South pole always reads strongest in March and the North reads strongest in September.

This cyclical variation does not reflect actual waning and waxing of the strength of the magnetic fields. In order to determine changes in strength, you have to factor in the background cycle mentioned above, and look for disruptions to the pattern.

For example, you can see that the North pole's September 2012 reading is weaker than it was in September 2011, the previous time a good view of the North pole was available. That's how you can distinguish the real strength changes from the background cycle.

If it's still not making sense to you, sorry, it is rather confusing the first time :). I'll try to do my best to pop in here when big changes are occurring to keep y'all posted (depends on whether I can continue to find ways around my ban).

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After Church today I got this any input ??
Thread: Are you seeing a increase in Heart Attacks and Falls where you live?? Solar Flares??
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Just once I'd like see a phenomena cure a problem rather than cause it !!!

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Just once I'd like see a natural occurrence cure a problem rather than cause it !!!



Let's be honest, the sun can do both wink
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"remote possibility" of asteroid taking out GOES weather satellite. Future missions should carry weapons e.g. phasers for protection
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Just once I'd like see a phenomena cure a problem rather than cause it !!!

wink
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It can both cause and cure problems (in an ironic way)...maybe its causing these problems because of how toxic we are...if our bodies were more in balance and could receive the information/energy in a different way it could use this energy to benefit us. Many times sickness or a heart attack is the bodies response or warning signal that you need to get it backk in check!
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"remote possibility" of asteroid taking out GOES weather satellite. Future missions should carry weapons e.g. phasers for protection
 Quoting: Luisport


That would be a bummer.





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"remote possibility" of asteroid taking out GOES weather satellite. Future missions should carry weapons e.g. phasers for protection
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That would be a bummer.





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ohyeah
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Yup, "ooops sorry folks, GOES is no longer available ...."

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X-FLARES CURE BOREDOM AMONG HELIOPHYSICISTS!


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Daffy Fuq'...Do you honestly believe our Star is entering transition to Red Giant phasesunBro'!?
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Your 2007 and Now comparison images have one obvious,important difference - No Regions(spare one)on the 2007 capture and a fair bit more on the Now image..no Active Regions means less Fields.

I'm sure you get it D' : )
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I wonder what may happen if that Circular Filament grows larger and both ends meet [link to halpha.nso.edu] ?
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Check this out -


[link to www.youtube.com]

?

Not sure what to make of this,if it is a co-object then that would be very interesting,I don't know if the Uploader has checked to make sure it is not a Galaxy,She has cross referenced it with local Stars and none fit the image - It looks to me like they are sharing the same Coma and the Object 'behind' ISON almost looks like it has a tail like bridge/connection to the main body of ISON toward the 'bottom' of the Coma...Hmmm?

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I initially thought it was visual result of a 2D object, are you saying there is another shot that shows them connected ??
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Check this out -


[link to www.youtube.com]

?

Not sure what to make of this,if it is a co-object then that would be very interesting,I don't know if the Uploader has checked to make sure it is not a Galaxy,She has cross referenced it with local Stars and none fit the image - It looks to me like they are sharing the same Coma and the Object 'behind' ISON almost looks like it has a tail like bridge/connection to the main body of ISON toward the 'bottom' of the Coma...Hmmm?

scratching
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I want to know is it moving with Ison or is it stationary/background?
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The latest polar field strength graphs shows the south pole rebounding and the north already flipped. Old Sol's really confused or he's playing cat-'n'-mouse with us.
Latest WSO Polar Fields:

[link to www.leif.org]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye

Hiya Hugh

Just a reminder, those rapid fluctuations in the chart don't actually indicate changes in strength, they are due to cyclical variation in the perspective of the Sun when viewed from Earth, due to our orbit and the Sun's axial tilt.

When looking at the graph, think of this image of a satellite's cyclical perspective as it orbits Earth: [link to www.scibuff.com]

Most of the "up and down" movement in Leif's chart is not an actual change in polar strength, but rather simply an indication of the movement of Earth around the Sun, and the changing perspectives that that combined with the Sun's axial tilt offers us.

"The Sun's rotation axis is tilted by about 7.25 degrees from the axis of the Earth's orbit so we see more of the Sun's north pole in September of each year and more of its south pole in March." [link to solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov]

So you have to look for major deviations from the previous repeating cycle to see actual changes in the strength. It's rather hard to explain, but I hope you follow me here.

With that in mind, the North pole hasn't actually quite flipped yet, as you can see on the chart the polemost readings are still barely hovering in negative polarity. But from the context of previous "rotations", we can see that the polemost region is weakening each pass, so this next pass of the Sun's northern polemost region may indeed confirm a flip.

If anyone needs further clarification of how to read the chart just let me know... I'm glad people are using it it's a lovely chart... just a little confusing by necessity.

(Sorry for length)

hf
 Quoting: madajs


thanks Madge, that was very helpful...and interesting
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I wonder what may happen if that Circular Filament grows larger and both ends meet [link to halpha.nso.edu] ?
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The oroborus of the sun!!!! whaaaaa
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Good night everyone. Love to all!

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Daffy Fuq'...Do you honestly believe our Star is entering transition to Red Giant phasesunBro'!?
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It's doing something, that's for sure.

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Your 2007 and Now comparison images have one obvious,important difference - No Regions(spare one)on the 2007 capture and a fair bit more on the Now image..no Active Regions means less Fields.

I'm sure you get it D' : )
 Quoting: SCizMe 14589973


That and the corona, you know what that means.

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Daffy Fuq'...Do you honestly believe our Star is entering transition to Red Giant phasesunBro'!?
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It's doing something, that's for sure.
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It is for sure, but I believe its going into a small dormant stage with cyclic magnetic varience and very anamalous electric valencies. There's a definite problem and some mystery hanging issues but in no way a red giant happening. I would imagine a binary emergence over a less than middle age sun dying. Just my two cents.
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Daffy Fuq'...Do you honestly believe our Star is entering transition to Red Giant phasesunBro'!?
 Quoting: SCizMe 14589973


It's doing something, that's for sure.
 Quoting: Da fuq


It is for sure, but I believe its going into a small dormant stage with cyclic magnetic varience and very anamalous electric valencies. There's a definite problem and some mystery hanging issues but in no way a red giant happening. I would imagine a binary emergence over a less than middle age sun dying. Just my two cents.
I do enjoy your energy and smarts DF! Peace
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The standard model dictates and states lifespan of a sun burning like a nuclear furnace. The sun is not burning anything though, especially on the inside. An outside force acts upon stars for them to initiate other stages, perhaps it is the ribbon. It could be everything, or nothing.

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Around 5:30 this guy starts to go on about how Venus and Mercury going out of control.
I mean on ISWA, it does appear like mercury is whipping around pretty quick.

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Check this out -


[link to www.youtube.com]

?

Not sure what to make of this,if it is a co-object then that would be very interesting,I don't know if the Uploader has checked to make sure it is not a Galaxy,She has cross referenced it with local Stars and none fit the image - It looks to me like they are sharing the same Coma and the Object 'behind' ISON almost looks like it has a tail like bridge/connection to the main body of ISON toward the 'bottom' of the Coma...Hmmm?

scratching
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Astro Mutt says nothing to worry about. ISON is small as a pea and there are no other objects beside it. Move along nothing to see here... chucklechucklechuckle

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