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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Someone is trying to screw me over.

Just got banned too.

Fuck you Timmy.

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I got banned as a paid member almost 2 years ago ... but I couldn't get on the site at all except as an AC/non-member for months.

If your banned, how can you still come on as "you" ???

Just curious, I hear people say this all the time, and it simply doesn't reflect my experience of banning at all.
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Someone is trying to screw me over.

Just got banned too.

Fuck you Timmy.

hiFolkssun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I got banned as a paid member almost 2 years ago ... but I couldn't get on the site at all except as an AC/non-member for months.

If your banned, how can you still come on as "you" ???

Just curious, I hear people say this all the time, and it simply doesn't reflect my experience of banning at all.
 Quoting: TS66


It started Yesterday on a cold and stormy Night : )

It is a strange ban - I came on unsigned in went to reply to a thread,typed my comment pressed post and got the page,but without a possibility to 'sign in to avoid ISP bans' - so I clicked on the GLP Header and that takes me back to the thread where I can sign in and use GLP - I think maybe they have changed the bane page?

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 02/22/2013 08:40 AM
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Someone is trying to screw me over.

Just got banned too.

Fuck you Timmy.

hiFolkssun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I got banned as a paid member almost 2 years ago ... but I couldn't get on the site at all except as an AC/non-member for months.

If your banned, how can you still come on as "you" ???

Just curious, I hear people say this all the time, and it simply doesn't reflect my experience of banning at all.
 Quoting: TS66


It started Yesterday on a cold and stormy Night : )

It is a strange ban - I came on unsigned in went to reply to a thread,typed my comment pressed post and got the page,but without a possibility to 'sign in to avoid ISP bans' - so I clicked on the GLP Header and that takes me back to the thread where I can sign in and use GLP - I think maybe they have changed the bane page?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


polarpalm

How rude of me...Good Day to you 66sun
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Someone is trying to screw me over.

Just got banned too.

Fuck you Timmy.

hiFolkssun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I got banned as a paid member almost 2 years ago ... but I couldn't get on the site at all except as an AC/non-member for months.

If your banned, how can you still come on as "you" ???

Just curious, I hear people say this all the time, and it simply doesn't reflect my experience of banning at all.
 Quoting: TS66


It started Yesterday on a cold and stormy Night : )

It is a strange ban - I came on unsigned in went to reply to a thread,typed my comment pressed post and got the page,but without a possibility to 'sign in to avoid ISP bans' - so I clicked on the GLP Header and that takes me back to the thread where I can sign in and use GLP - I think maybe they have changed the bane page?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


:polarpalm:

How rude of me...Good Day to you 66sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Good morning ... lol. My bad.

I just stay logged in and avoid all that. When I was banned, I WAS BANNED !! No signing in anywhere, and Trinity sent me a refund for my membership.

I'm n ot sure what I got swept up in, but I certainly pissed someone off !! LOL
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I got banned as a paid member almost 2 years ago ... but I couldn't get on the site at all except as an AC/non-member for months.

If your banned, how can you still come on as "you" ???

Just curious, I hear people say this all the time, and it simply doesn't reflect my experience of banning at all.
 Quoting: TS66


It started Yesterday on a cold and stormy Night : )

It is a strange ban - I came on unsigned in went to reply to a thread,typed my comment pressed post and got the page,but without a possibility to 'sign in to avoid ISP bans' - so I clicked on the GLP Header and that takes me back to the thread where I can sign in and use GLP - I think maybe they have changed the bane page?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


polarpalm

How rude of me...Good Day to you 66sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Good morning ... lol. My bad.

I just stay logged in and avoid all that. When I was banned, I WAS BANNED !! No signing in anywhere, and Trinity sent me a refund for my membership.

I'm n ot sure what I got swept up in, but I certainly pissed someone off !! LOL
 Quoting: TS66


Yes,I think I must have done similar,someone even reported me for a offensive post!?

Wtf?

Offensive...Glp..me..?

Naaa,so In one Day - Banned from posting by S.Punk,gets a 'Abusive Post' and a AC Ban?

I don't believe in Coinky-dinkies.

sunhf

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 02/22/2013 08:57 AM
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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a 30 brick of beer and a long playlist of Umphrey's McGee podcasts...gonna be an excellent evening!

Stay safe, solar family. Peace and Love!!
 Quoting: mtn_mang


Honestly, I would rather have an evening with the same music but some 'alternative' instead of booze stoner

Turns out, I didn't get the job I thought I was gonna start next week :( Like a child, I'll try to escape reality for a while.
 Quoting: mtn_mang


I know how hard that news is. Have a brother going through the same things and on the edge of losing everything he has, all while keeping his sobriety, now 15 months. You my friend can do the same, just never give up. Life is too short to spend it in despair.

God's blessings to you that you will find a job soon!
hugs

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a 30 brick of beer and a long playlist of Umphrey's McGee podcasts...gonna be an excellent evening!

Stay safe, solar family. Peace and Love!!
 Quoting: mtn_mang


Honestly, I would rather have an evening with the same music but some 'alternative' instead of booze stoner

Turns out, I didn't get the job I thought I was gonna start next week :( Like a child, I'll try to escape reality for a while.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I know how hard that news is. Have a brother going through the same things and on the edge of losing everything he has, all while keeping his sobriety, now 15 months. You my friend can do the same, just never give up. Life is too short to spend it in despair.

God's blessings to you that you will find a job soon!
hugs
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Hello Angelhi

You do know the above comments(both of them)are from MTN Mang and not I don't you?

hf
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Ok,got it.


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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Hello Angelhi

You do know the above comments(both of them)are from MTN Mang and not I don't you?

hf
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Yes I knew it was MTN Mng, but the quote didn't work right when I posted, let me try to edit it.
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Someone is trying to screw me over.

Just got banned too.

Fuck you Timmy.

hiFolkssun
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Banned for what?? Not that any excuse is needed lol!
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Yes I knew it was MTN Mng, but the quote didn't work right when I posted, let me try to edit it.
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Got it fixed now.
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Got it fixed now.
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Edit: and Good Morning Sun Crew!! Hope everyone has something good happen to them today.
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What the heck? Look at this red I got:

Red karma for you have a nice day

Want to know something else, it wasn't there when I logged off last night at 1 am my time yet it has yesterday's date. Talk about about weird. Wish we could see who gives the karma, whether red or green!!!!
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What the heck? Look at this red I got:

Red karma for you have a nice day

Want to know something else, it wasn't there when I logged off last night at 1 am my time yet it has yesterday's date. Talk about about weird. Wish we could see who gives the karma, whether red or green!!!!
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That's not very friendly! Maybe solar watch is too close to the facts for comfort ;))
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What the heck? Look at this red I got:

Red karma for you have a nice day

Want to know something else, it wasn't there when I logged off last night at 1 am my time yet it has yesterday's date. Talk about about weird. Wish we could see who gives the karma, whether red or green!!!!
 Quoting: whiteangel


That's not very friendly! Maybe solar watch is too close to the facts for comfort ;))
 Quoting: Elemental


I try to stay positive in my posts so not sure what that could have been from, doesn't really matter, the oddity was it wasn't there last night when I logged out, as I had chuckled over 3 Mama's post. It shows up out of order??

Reminds me of EQ's showing up hours after they occur on some of the EQ links, lol.
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What the heck? Look at this red I got:

Red karma for you have a nice day

Want to know something else, it wasn't there when I logged off last night at 1 am my time yet it has yesterday's date. Talk about about weird. Wish we could see who gives the karma, whether red or green!!!!
 Quoting: whiteangel


That's not very friendly! Maybe solar watch is too close to the facts for comfort ;))
 Quoting: Elemental


I try to stay positive in my posts so not sure what that could have been from, doesn't really matter, the oddity was it wasn't there last night when I logged out, as I had chuckled over 3 Mama's post. It shows up out of order??

Reminds me of EQ's showing up hours after they occur on some of the EQ links, lol.
 Quoting: whiteangel


It seems that this thread, along with it's regular inhabitants, is periodically targeted by weirdness. I put this down to it's factual basis along with a jealousy of the friendships that have developed due to mutual interests and open, loving personalities. hf
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What the heck? Look at this red I got:

Red karma for you have a nice day

Want to know something else, it wasn't there when I logged off last night at 1 am my time yet it has yesterday's date. Talk about about weird. Wish we could see who gives the karma, whether red or green!!!!
 Quoting: whiteangel


That's not very friendly! Maybe solar watch is too close to the facts for comfort ;))
 Quoting: Elemental


I try to stay positive in my posts so not sure what that could have been from, doesn't really matter, the oddity was it wasn't there last night when I logged out, as I had chuckled over 3 Mama's post. It shows up out of order??

Reminds me of EQ's showing up hours after they occur on some of the EQ links, lol.
 Quoting: whiteangel


It seems that this thread, along with it's regular inhabitants, is periodically targeted by weirdness. I put this down to it's factual basis along with a jealousy of the friendships that have developed due to mutual interests and open, loving personalities. hf
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You have a good point there Ele!! Much love and many blessings to all grouphug
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PROOF: NASA IS AWARE OF THE ELECTRIC SUN

I stumbled on this ancient (1997) press release for NASA's SOHO mission-

"The new findings seem to account for a substantial part of the energy needed to cause the very high temperature of the corona, the outermost layer of the Sun's atmosphere. Since the corona's temperature was first measured 55 years ago, scientists have lacked a satisfactory explanation for why that temperature is three million degrees while the visible surface of the Sun is only 11,000 degrees Fahrenheit or about 6,000 degrees Celsius.

It is physically impossible to transfer thermal energy from the cooler surface to the much hotter corona, so the energy transfer had to be in the form of waves or magnetic energy, but no measurement to date had found adequate energy to account for the coronal temperature.

"We now have direct evidence for the upward transfer of magnetic energy from the Sun's surface toward the corona above. There is more than enough energy coming up from the loops of the 'magnetic carpet' to heat the corona to its known temperature," said Dr. Alan Title of the Stanford-Lockheed Institute for Space Research, Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Center, Palo Alto, CA, who led the research. "Each one of these loops carries as much energy as a large hydroelectric plant, such as the Hoover dam, generates in about a million years!" (snip)

(unsnip)Energy flows from the loops when they interact, producing electrical and magnetic "short circuits." The very strong electric currents in these short circuits are what heats the corona to a temperature of several million degrees. Images from the Extreme ultraviolet Imaging Telescope (EIT) and the Coronal Diagnostics Spectrometer (CDS) on SOHO show the hot gases of the ever-changing corona reacting to the evolving magnetic fields rooted in the solar surface.

Full Press Release: [link to soi.stanford.edu]

Addition related images and movies:
[link to soi.stanford.edu]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


rockonrockonrockon
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


ana

I'll see your 3 rock ons and bump it with a buncha happy naners. Sing the song electric!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Have a great Evening MTN!

(Personally,I do not drink Alcohol)

sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Honestly, I would rather have an evening with the same music but some 'alternative' instead of booze stoner

Turns out, I didn't get the job I thought I was gonna start next week :( Like a child, I'll try to escape reality for a while.
 Quoting: mtn_mang


Might mean sumptin better is in store for you, something more suited to you that will feel more like fun than work and you won't be able to believe you are getting paid for it!
 Quoting: Isis One


I hope that's the case, I1. starting to get tired of the roller coaster of emotions. things swing from awesome to shite in a moments notice lately. Maybe that dream job of beer or bud taster will open up soon, lol.

on another note, hope you're having a good night, Isis. my apologies to the night crew for jumbling up the thread with nonsensical, drunken jibberish.

gonna hit the hay now before I say something completely retarded..or handicapped, to be pc.
 Quoting: mtn_mang


You're loved my friend. Your awake to the beauty of the astronomica and solar splendor,your doing fine. The right gig for you will show . I know this is old but true, if you love your job you'll never work a day in your life. Don't settle unless its a must.Peace
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Someone is trying to screw me over.

Just got banned too.

Fuck you Timmy.

hiFolkssun
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I got banned as a paid member almost 2 years ago ... but I couldn't get on the site at all except as an AC/non-member for months.

If your banned, how can you still come on as "you" ???

Just curious, I hear people say this all the time, and it simply doesn't reflect my experience of banning at all.
 Quoting: TS66


I'm with you same happened to me. Good day TS!
I've been pushing snow for 26 hours , going to bed!
Watched a group of naked college kids jump off a roof into a 6' snow drift at 4 am, while trying to clean out the university chancellors parking lot, quite funny!
Nothing like being a plant pathologist that pulls out drunk kids cars from snowdrifts. Life is sooooo interesting, much love to you all!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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What a sight that would have been Shad!!!!!!!!
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The X-ray background levels have been rising today. I think 1678 may be stirring things up.

Latest Eve:
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

This flare was only a B-level spark at 15:15z-
:2/22-sparks:
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What a sight that would have been Shad!!!!!!!!
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hf
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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a 30 brick of beer and a long playlist of Umphrey's McGee podcasts...gonna be an excellent evening!

Stay safe, solar family. Peace and Love!!
 Quoting: mtn_mang


Have a great Evening MTN!

(Personally,I do not drink Alcohol)

sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Honestly, I would rather have an evening with the same music but some 'alternative' instead of booze stoner

Turns out, I didn't get the job I thought I was gonna start next week :( Like a child, I'll try to escape reality for a while.
 Quoting: mtn_mang


console friend
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Here is a question for ALL to chime in about: Do you think we are headed for a Grand Minimum, if so, do you think we will go into a mini ice age at the least?

I would like whys and links and everything on this. Would put it out on the board but just don't want to listen to the shills/trolls and the negative crap this question would bring up. Wanting real data and not dribble that "out there" would bring.

Thanks in advance to all you wonderful people!!
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Here is a question for ALL to chime in about: Do you think we are headed for a Grand Minimum, if so, do you think we will go into a mini ice age at the least?

I would like whys and links and everything on this. Would put it out on the board but just don't want to listen to the shills/trolls and the negative crap this question would bring up. Wanting real data and not dribble that "out there" would bring.

Thanks in advance to all you wonderful people!!
 Quoting: whiteangel


[link to www.theregister.co.uk]

yes I do, the number of omega jet stream vortexes is at an all time high. The reason we're having these monumental lows versus highs on the front is because our pacific rim temps are moving substantially north. These cap influxes are derived from polar rain , particle assimilation through our polarity cycle into our geodynamo. We aren't getting near the numbers needed for sustained jet stream levels and ionospheric particle averages. We will see above average temps for the next 3 to 6 months and next winter will be a russian bear. Europe will be frozen solid and I do have climatic data for this just not sure if I can share it, yet , will if I can. My hands have been slapped many times.
This weather is far from over , we will see bad cycles for another month.

When you consider the curent exchange in our suns levels and realize this has been greatly altered by sheer lack of FLARE output which is the initial catalyst in solar weather, you understand the factors involving plasmatic output. Its a cleansing if you will of a shedding sun. These minimums need to happen and we should be clear that if they don't we've got a dying star on our hands. This along with other events makes this a time for reasonant science to mix with spiritual gleaming. this is a monumental time peiod to experience. Peace all, high fives to you Angel!


Check HUGHS electric universe threads for added input, very good stuff!

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Thread: wesome Plasma Rain Falls On Sun 2013 1080p Available


can someone pin this for rain man hf
Luke 18:8I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
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Good-bye 1678-
:1678comp:

AR1665 is returning soon in the NE. It was a large alpha spot when we last saw it, but it appears very bright now in the extreme ultraviolet images.

STEREO B EUVI:
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Should be back in a day or two:
[link to www.solarham.net]

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Good-bye 1678-
:1678comp:

AR1665 is returning soon in the NE. It was a large alpha spot when we last saw it, but it appears very bright now in the extreme ultraviolet images.

STEREO B EUVI:
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Should be back in a day or two:
[link to www.solarham.net]
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


What potential it had, it will return the energy for further solar parties. Minimums mixed with occasional big events can be very entertaining and alarming
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