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SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily)

 
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Thank you Ninz - I think I can prove it with Two images,maybe three first,this of the 0bserved and measured Overall Magnetic Field Strength of Sunspots alone,independent of the actual Solar Dipole [link to science.nasa.gov] You can see that is a massive decrease in Overall Strength of their Magnetic Fields and we know that in order to Flare they require a More complex Polarity(esp. for High C-X+ Flares)..combining that with this [link to www.leif.org] which shows at the same time,a massive difference in The actual overall Field Strength of our Star entirely - I know you know NiNz,but others,if the suns loses its overall Field Strength like this it simply will not be able to produce Sunspots,and from Livingston and Penn(guys who made the Observations)their serious extrapolation was that'by 2015-2030 we will see zero to few Sunspots forming at all' (you can read about this in basic form here [link to www.leif.org] )Penn and Livingstone are amongst the best Solar Brains we have as a species,in my opinion,for 0bservations of Solar Cyces etc.

Further to the plots above I want to also present this(don't mean to sound like a fucking teacher,feel like a prick saying that)a plot of the extrapolated Future Field Strengths of our Sol until 2030,these show what is my main thrust [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net] Do you see the problem there Br0thers and Solsters..apart from the(scary)decrease in projected MFS,you should also notice that it will not again switch Hemisphere for the near fore-seeable future - This leaves me to say what most of you know already,some may have a hard time admitting it,but it is our duty to do so as these are the facts 'Landscheidt Minimum'.

I will now introduce another two brilliant Solar Statistical compilers and there incredible Formulae that has and is predicting soley by Computer Program alone(ones they wrote)the exact Magnetic Behavio(u)r of our Sol,Tim Channon and M.A Vulkacevic -

I'll snip some but you need to read this stuff if you want to know where we are in relation to Solar/Universal time and our Species,as I see it...

'Back in 2003, independent investigator and talkshop contributor Vukcevic developed a formula to describe the changing solar polar fields which has closely mimicked the Sunís magnetic activity since. The terms in this formula are based on the motion of the biggest of the gas giants,Jupiter and Saturn. You can see a graph based on his formula and the WSO polar field data here.

In a complementary line of investigation, talkshop contributing author Tim Channon made a study of the possible set of cycles and amplitudes which could replicate the reconstruction of solar activity since 1610 made by NASAís Judith Lean Tim has also used the software he created to do cycles analysis to discover the dominant cycle periods which describe the motion of the sun around the solar system barycentre caused by the motion of the planets, predominantly the four outer gas giants, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. He has now discovered that these same dominant cycle periods successfully replicate the record of changes in the solar polar fields.

For planetary-solar theorists this is exciting news, because it forms a new line of evidence demonstrating the strong possibility of a link between solar motion caused by the planets, and the changing levels of magnetic activity observed on the solar surface.

Here is Timís plot showing records of the changes in the field strength of the solar polar fields in red and the output of his cycles analysis software using the solar barycentric motion dominating cycle periods. The Pearson R2 value for the correlation is 0.975, or in laymanís terms ďjust about spot on.Ē
- [link to tallbloke.files.wordpress.com] <--- Plot

At long last we have a close range forecast, albeit based on a short time span data series, which ties planetary motion to observable solar activity. An additional caveat though, is that the sun has been acting anomalously over the last few years, and we only have the vaguest of ideas about its non-linear behaviour. Still, if this forecast shows skill against observations over the coming years, it will be a vindication of cycles based analysis, and another boost for the planetary-solar theory. [link to tallbloke.wordpress.com (secure)]

Here is the hidden door to this modelling,if you want to look further [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net]

Ok so,you more than likely may be thinking 'Oi! 'Cesium - What the fuck is your point!?'

My point is - Mini to possible full Ice Age starting from at least 3 Years ago,and has been forecast to be occurring right now and for some time,here is a table showing the previous grand minima. and the future ones based off of the longer cycles of the past [link to ktwop.files.wordpress.com] You can see we are already in the middle of the predicted Grand Minima. right now from that graph...but you don't need to believe me - I just threw this together quickly to outline and recap,I can prove my facts or their basis a lot further if you need me to - But for this Morning the above should suffice for your Coffee easy read,and also this [link to ktwop.wordpress.com] read and utilize all links charts etc. and this - [link to www.schulphysik.de]

And if you ned proof that Climates forcer is Solar then here,read this also [link to www.giss.nasa.gov] a small piece from NASA about how the Sun causes Ice ages and this is directly due to Weak Sunspot Activity.

Remember,we are in a Solar Max - the Background X-rays should be almost constantly in the Mid C Range(at least) but yet I estimate the overall X-ray Flux to have been at a max. of B6-8 Max. since the onset of this Cycle,I amsure alot would agree with that estimate.

More reading:

'Decreasing
Sunsp
ot
Magnetic
Fields
Explain
Unique
10.7
cm
Radio
Flux' - The Penn/Livingstone and Svalgaard PDF of their work [link to www.leif.org]

shk

Luv 2 all of you!

sun

Edits:sorry,I rushed through it and didn't check What I had typedhf

lol.

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Much Love,

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Yes,I was being a twit when I said 'Easy Morning Coffee Read'.

Sorry.

But please,if you have the time please read it through and if you have any questions as to its' validity,I will do my upmost to try and quantify my reasons why this is perfectly legitimate and factual data from which we may have to start all out assumptions from regarding this Max. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] and the Future 20-5-/10 Years.

Straight up.

Any questions on this,like I said,fir away.

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Morning Tink Tink!

hugs

Thanking you loads,as always me Hearty!

Raarrr!

sun
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Morning Tink Tink!

hugs

Thanking you loads,as always me Hearty!

Raarrr!

sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Real big thanks for that again Tink Tink - A Good Update Today.

sunhf
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Morning Tink Tink!

hugs

Thanking you loads,as always me Hearty!

Raarrr!

sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Real big thanks for that again Tink Tink - A Good Update Today.

sunhf
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You are welcome SC, it is my pleasure, my little contribution to this thread.

Hope you are doing well. hf

hugs right back at ya!!

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Ah, that feels a bit beyond common sense, I'll say it again, your mind is amazing, also, good hunch on Polaris.

Excellent thread today, guys. Nin, you continues to amaze with charts/graphs/sims I've never seen before. In Hugh's forecast, they refer to "transient cme's", does that mean, slippery little effers who got past us? lol. Shad and Nin, thanks for EQ/volcano info. SC and Nin, your discussion on solar magnetic field pole reversing drama was excellent. Gomez, just love your avatar!!! Da. thanks for having a sense of humor. Hi to all lurkers. Sol crew rocks. Also a shout out to our gal Tiny Tink who started a fog2 thread on Nin's solar blog in case we get shut out here at glp, for anyone that's interested.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium

+1^^ what isis said : )
rgds, rawpaul (mostly lurker)
...SC, much thanks for last links -added to list of reads -im still working thru Landscheidt work you posted few weeks back... i'll take you up on questioning if i get stuck : )
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Good morning all .... hf


So much to wrap my mind around once I get home . Thank you all for all you do !!!
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Have a great day allhf

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

but then just kept on going.

Researchers studying its data say the craft appears now to be in a realm of space beyond the influence of our Sun.

But the US space agency (Nasa), which manages Voyager, says that it regards the probe as still being inside the Solar System.

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Thank you Ninz - I think I can prove it with Two images,maybe three first,this of the 0bserved and measured Overall Magnetic Field Strength of Sunspots alone,independent of the actual Solar Dipole [link to science.nasa.gov] You can see that is a massive decrease in Overall Strength of their Magnetic Fields and we know that in order to Flare they require a More complex Polarity(esp. for High C-X+ Flares)..combining that with this [link to www.leif.org] which shows at the same time,a massive difference in The actual overall Field Strength of our Star entirely - I know you know NiNz,but others,if the suns loses its overall Field Strength like this it simply will not be able to produce Sunspots,and from Livingston and Penn(guys who made the Observations)their serious extrapolation was that'by 2015-2030 we will see zero to few Sunspots forming at all' (you can read about this in basic form here [link to www.leif.org] )Penn and Livingstone are amongst the best Solar Brains we have as a species,in my opinion,for 0bservations of Solar Cyces etc.

Further to the plots above I want to also present this(don't mean to sound like a fucking teacher,feel like a prick saying that)a plot of the extrapolated Future Field Strengths of our Sol until 2030,these show what is my main thrust [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net] Do you see the problem there Br0thers and Solsters..apart from the(scary)decrease in projected MFS,you should also notice that it will not again switch Hemisphere for the near fore-seeable future - This leaves me to say what most of you know already,some may have a hard time admitting it,but it is our duty to do so as these are the facts 'Landscheidt Minimum'.

I will now introduce another two brilliant Solar Statistical compilers and there incredible Formulae that has and is predicting soley by Computer Program alone(ones they wrote)the exact Magnetic Behavio(u)r of our Sol,Tim Channon and M.A Vulkacevic -

I'll snip some but you need to read this stuff if you want to know where we are in relation to Solar/Universal time and our Species,as I see it...

'Back in 2003, independent investigator and talkshop contributor Vukcevic developed a formula to describe the changing solar polar fields which has closely mimicked the Sunís magnetic activity since. The terms in this formula are based on the motion of the biggest of the gas giants,Jupiter and Saturn. You can see a graph based on his formula and the WSO polar field data here.

In a complementary line of investigation, talkshop contributing author Tim Channon made a study of the possible set of cycles and amplitudes which could replicate the reconstruction of solar activity since 1610 made by NASAís Judith Lean Tim has also used the software he created to do cycles analysis to discover the dominant cycle periods which describe the motion of the sun around the solar system barycentre caused by the motion of the planets, predominantly the four outer gas giants, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. He has now discovered that these same dominant cycle periods successfully replicate the record of changes in the solar polar fields.

For planetary-solar theorists this is exciting news, because it forms a new line of evidence demonstrating the strong possibility of a link between solar motion caused by the planets, and the changing levels of magnetic activity observed on the solar surface.

Here is Timís plot showing records of the changes in the field strength of the solar polar fields in red and the output of his cycles analysis software using the solar barycentric motion dominating cycle periods. The Pearson R2 value for the correlation is 0.975, or in laymanís terms ďjust about spot on.Ē
- [link to tallbloke.files.wordpress.com] <--- Plot

At long last we have a close range forecast, albeit based on a short time span data series, which ties planetary motion to observable solar activity. An additional caveat though, is that the sun has been acting anomalously over the last few years, and we only have the vaguest of ideas about its non-linear behaviour. Still, if this forecast shows skill against observations over the coming years, it will be a vindication of cycles based analysis, and another boost for the planetary-solar theory. [link to tallbloke.wordpress.com (secure)]

Here is the hidden door to this modelling,if you want to look further [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net]

Ok so,you more than likely may be thinking 'Oi! 'Cesium - What the fuck is your point!?'

My point is - Mini to possible full Ice Age starting from at least 3 Years ago,and has been forecast to be occurring right now and for some time,here is a table showing the previous grand minima. and the future ones based off of the longer cycles of the past [link to ktwop.files.wordpress.com] You can see we are already in the middle of the predicted Grand Minima. right now from that graph...but you don't need to believe me - I just threw this together quickly to outline and recap,I can prove my facts or their basis a lot further if you need me to - But for this Morning the above should suffice for your Coffee easy read,and also this [link to ktwop.wordpress.com] read and utilize all links charts etc. and this - [link to www.schulphysik.de]

And if you ned proof that Climates forcer is Solar then here,read this also [link to www.giss.nasa.gov] a small piece from NASA about how the Sun causes Ice ages and this is directly due to Weak Sunspot Activity.

Remember,we are in a Solar Max - the Background X-rays should be almost constantly in the Mid C Range(at least) but yet I estimate the overall X-ray Flux to have been at a max. of B6-8 Max. since the onset of this Cycle,I amsure alot would agree with that estimate.

More reading:

'Decreasing
Sunsp
ot
Magnetic
Fields
Explain
Unique
10.7
cm
Radio
Flux' - The Penn/Livingstone and Svalgaard PDF of their work [link to www.leif.org]

shk

Luv 2 all of you!

sun

Edits:sorry,I rushed through it and didn't check What I had typedhf

lol.
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NiNz,did I not share this [link to www.leif.org] with you?
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nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Cesium, I hope you didn't have S0 broadcast 'it switched' to thousands, haha, because they sure haven't!

Those charts are not necessarily intuitive. It took me quite a while (and a few emails with Leif) to figure them out.

Anyways, not even the Sun's north pole has reversed yet. Very close, but no cigar yet.

Note: To explain a little, the only readings on that chart that have shown the north polar region in a positive polarity, came at times when the actual north pole was not even visible to WSO.

Those were lower latitudes being measured; low latitudes of the northern hemisphere are measured every spring, the actual north pole is measured every fall. This is not done by choice, but rather by necessity, fall is the only time of year when Earth is positioned such that the Sun's north pole is visible from WSO.

The lower latitudes of the Sun's northern hemisphere exhibiting a positive polarity is nothing new, they have been doing so since the spring of 2011.

Measurements of the actual pole have yet to indicate a reversal.


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NiNz,did I not share this [link to www.leif.org] with you?
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nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Cesium, I hope you didn't have S0 broadcast 'it switched' to thousands, haha, because they sure haven't!

Those charts are not necessarily intuitive. It took me quite a while (and a few emails with Leif) to figure them out.

Anyways, not even the Sun's north pole has reversed yet. Very close, but no cigar yet.

Note: To explain a little, the only readings on that chart that have shown the north polar region in a positive polarity, came at times when the actual north pole was not even visible to WSO.

Those were lower latitudes being measured; low latitudes of the northern hemisphere are measured every spring, the actual north pole is measured every fall. This is not done by choice, but rather by necessity, fall is the only time of year when Earth is positioned such that the Sun's north pole is visible from WSO.

The lower latitudes of the Sun's northern hemisphere exhibiting a positive polarity is nothing new, they have been doing so since the spring of 2011.

Measurements of the actual pole have yet to indicate a reversal.

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keep reading past 2 pages of posts on this subject ^^
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NiNz,did I not share this [link to www.leif.org] with you?
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nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Cesium, I hope you didn't have S0 broadcast 'it switched' to thousands, haha, because they sure haven't!

Those charts are not necessarily intuitive. It took me quite a while (and a few emails with Leif) to figure them out.

Anyways, not even the Sun's north pole has reversed yet. Very close, but no cigar yet.

Note: To explain a little, the only readings on that chart that have shown the north polar region in a positive polarity, came at times when the actual north pole was not even visible to WSO.

Those were lower latitudes being measured; low latitudes of the northern hemisphere are measured every spring, the actual north pole is measured every fall. This is not done by choice, but rather by necessity, fall is the only time of year when Earth is positioned such that the Sun's north pole is visible from WSO.

The lower latitudes of the Sun's northern hemisphere exhibiting a positive polarity is nothing new, they have been doing so since the spring of 2011.

Measurements of the actual pole have yet to indicate a reversal.

 Quoting: madajs.


keep reading past 2 pages of posts on this subject ^^
 Quoting: NiNzrez 28232082

Hi NiN :)

What specifically are you referring to? I thought I did read all the relevant posts tounge

Addendum: It just seemed like there was still some lingering confusion as to whether the north, specifically, had reversed.

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Good morning all .... hf


So much to wrap my mind around once I get home . Thank you all for all you do !!!
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Oi!

66 - You gave me Red Karma darlink?

Why!?

I haz sad now?
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...

+1^^ what isis said : )
rgds, rawpaul (mostly lurker)
...SC, much thanks for last links -added to list of reads -im still working thru Landscheidt work you posted few weeks back... i'll take you up on questioning if i get stuck : )
 Quoting: Isis One


Ahhh!

Thank you UKACwink

You do not know how chuffed it makes me feel to know others are taking notice - Sounds like it obviously clicked with you also,well,it is hard to dismiss the evidence!

I presented pure facts/measured 0bserved and tested data.

Thank you again,and I look forward to it!

sunhf
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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NiNz,did I not share this [link to www.leif.org] with you?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Cesium, I hope you didn't have S0 broadcast 'it switched' to thousands, haha, because they sure haven't!

Those charts are not necessarily intuitive. It took me quite a while (and a few emails with Leif) to figure them out.

Anyways, not even the Sun's north pole has reversed yet. Very close, but no cigar yet.

Note: To explain a little, the only readings on that chart that have shown the north polar region in a positive polarity, came at times when the actual north pole was not even visible to WSO.

Those were lower latitudes being measured; low latitudes of the northern hemisphere are measured every spring, the actual north pole is measured every fall. This is not done by choice, but rather by necessity, fall is the only time of year when Earth is positioned such that the Sun's north pole is visible from WSO.

The lower latitudes of the Sun's northern hemisphere exhibiting a positive polarity is nothing new, they have been doing so since the spring of 2011.

Measurements of the actual pole have yet to indicate a reversal.

 Quoting: madajs.


Hahaha!
no,that wasn't what I was presenting it for - I clarified this above with the rest of my comments : )

But,I did when I first saw it think it was revised in March this Year and did think 'oh,that happened quietly,without Gnewz,they appear to have switched since the last WSO Update' - but did not utilize it to that end and in fact didn't proliferate that assumption(which is just as well!)as I was too concerned with the context in which I have been trying to hammer home for the last Month or so now,that being Everything I said in my last larger comment above : )

What do you think about all that Maddy?

Surely you can only conclude the same as I,right?

Or is there any of the data or projected info that you take any issue with Br0ther!?
hf

Please,get back to me as You have a great brain and I enjoy your input,massively...as do others!

sun

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here is the post i was talking about madajs.

...


Exactly,no-one would here me though - Even had S0 broadcast it to Thousands,still nowt.

Thank you NiNz.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


ahhh man.. why the hell not!?!
this is huge!

but had to look into this closer
no flip just yet, it almost did, then stabelized

here is the WSO solar dipole
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

here is just the North, where we can see it reversed
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

and here is just the South, where we can see it when to the very point of reversal, then stopped and stabelized
[link to wso.stanford.edu]


with it being THAT close, we could be seeing a solar polar flip at any sek without much notice at all
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Yes,it is crazy...It looks like the poles are smeered around the Sun in patches,check the magnetograms and this is kind of visible sometimes - with a large predominant Polarity occupying sections of the Sun at different times,it definitely did achieve at one point a crossing before something happened...I'll read the rest of your comment and links to find out what,exactly.

Thank you NiNz for being so on ithf

Fucking Awesome.

sun
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Most recent WSO Magnetogram
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
look at the placment of the +/- regions
this sun is at the point of wanting to flip!
[link to wso.stanford.edu]

WSO generates data about the Sun's magnetic field in the following forms:

MAGNETOGRAMS

Magnetograms are magntic maps of the Sun's surface. The Sun rotates every 27
days and the features change with time, so the maps change from day to day.
magnetogram: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

SYNOPTIC CHARTS

Synoptic Charts are magnetic maps of the whole Sun. Magnetograms taken over a
solar rotation are combined to give a complete picture of the solar field. The
Earth is near the solar equator, so we never get a very good look at the Sun's
poles.
Synoptic Chart: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

CORONAL FIELDS

The field in the corona can not be measured directly. However the field can be
modeled because it's basic structure is determined by the conditions in the
photosphere. We use a potential field model to compute the field about 1.5
solar radii above the Sun's surface. That's the height at which the field
pattern becomes fixed. That pattern is carried out into interplanetary space
by the solar wind. It takes about 4 days for the pattern to reach the Earth.
The model isn't very good at predicting dynamic changes in the corona.
Coronal PFSS map: [link to wso.stanford.edu]

Read more about this:
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
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NiNz,did I not share this [link to www.leif.org] with you?
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nooooo
thank you for that!!!!!
so they switched then.....
 Quoting: NiNzrez

Cesium, I hope you didn't have S0 broadcast 'it switched' to thousands, haha, because they sure haven't!

Those charts are not necessarily intuitive. It took me quite a while (and a few emails with Leif) to figure them out.

Anyways, not even the Sun's north pole has reversed yet. Very close, but no cigar yet.

Note: To explain a little, the only readings on that chart that have shown the north polar region in a positive polarity, came at times when the actual north pole was not even visible to WSO.

Those were lower latitudes being measured; low latitudes of the northern hemisphere are measured every spring, the actual north pole is measured every fall. This is not done by choice, but rather by necessity, fall is the only time of year when Earth is positioned such that the Sun's north pole is visible from WSO.

The lower latitudes of the Sun's northern hemisphere exhibiting a positive polarity is nothing new, they have been doing so since the spring of 2011.

Measurements of the actual pole have yet to indicate a reversal.

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And yes,also...the rest of what you said concerning how and when they update and other reasons you mentioned in the past actually helped me loads..it was you I think about 4 Months back that pointed out that there is a 3 and 6 Month jig ol Sol does where in the Polarities can appear to have crossed,and may have...but it doesn't always mean it has 'happened' fully as what tends to happen is like when you poke your toe in the bath and then foot,in and out until you get used to the temperature(shit comparison,I have been up for 36 Hours+)so do the Poles of the Sun kind of surge in and out in and then out,making headway each time but each time moving back to another position(ahead of the last)until a temperament is achieved and they have no choice but to flip.

I do eagerly await the next update but to be honest,as I have said before - even if the Second round were to match the first in terms of Flaring and Suspots,it will not in any way make up for a 'normal' max. and should still be correctly considered a 'Minima Period' where Sunspot counts are low and Flaring events,minor.

The projected OMFS of the Sun through 2030> is very worrying(in terms of 'how will they even flip?') [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net] .

Rice and Peas Maddy,and thank you again for helping me learn that aspect : )
Excuse my messy sentences etc. this Evening,I am past tired.

sun

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we can see here that since stabelizing, as stated above, the southern polar field is now growing toward and close to the flip/reverals again.
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
(this was the last reported reading on Feb 26th - almost a month back)
it would be a bit more than uncommon to see it stabelize once more when it hits the reversal stage
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lol.


Great put together!
rockon


Thank you NiNz : )

I have been at this for a few now and have tried to show the same in the last Month or so here as all the evidence indicates,really to a almost full-gone-conclusion,what it is that I have been trying to show - I cannot possibly view it any other way!?

I have done enough back-checking of data of precious cycles and read a lot about the drivers of these Cycles(all the Cycles of the Sun,not just the Min.Max.11/22 Year Cycle)to really feel I am able to say now say that,The case for a New Minimum can be presented with a 96% certainty(I'd actually say full gone conclusion but shan't)of happening now through the next 50-100+Years - Based on the Rapid Decline of the OMFS of the Sun and the seeming inability it may have to even Flip for a while [link to www.vukcevic.talktalk.net] .

(NiNz - I am just reiterating this for others mainly,Ithink you get the gist of it,well)

Also tough,for you NiNz and others -

This Video that says that yes,we are headed for 'Ice Age 2015/30 Onwards' - From the CERN Cloud Experiment Talks,Jason Kirby - [link to vimeo.com] Yes,it is a Vimeo link,the one on YT is a different presentation for those that may wonder that.

I suggest using it to go to Bed listening to,so that you can focus on what is being said...as well as going to Bed listening to a good Lecture/Talk is always,also the Dogs Bollox hf

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we can see here that since stabelizing, as stated above, the southern polar field is now growing toward and close to the flip/reverals again.
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
(this was the last reported reading on Feb 26th - almost a month back)
it would be a bit more than uncommon to see it stabelize once more when it hits the reversal stage
 Quoting: NiNzrez 28232082


Hello NiNzhi

You posted this earlier and I bookmarked it but failed to take a decent look at it - Thank you Sooo much for the reminder!

SolStar1NiNzsunrockon

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M Flare!

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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woohoo

I think it has to be 1692 in the North-West [link to halpha.nso.edu] unless some of those farside ejections on the East are responsible for it...Eve isn't showing yet [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] ?

The farside has been mental,I think I posted the EUVI Earlier?

Look at all of it [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] !?

Awesome hey!?

It is 1692 !
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Whoo hooooo!
GOES X-ray
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
M1.6
EVE
[link to img62.imageshack.us]
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Whoo hooooo!
GOES X-ray
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
M1.6
EVE
[link to img62.imageshack.us]
cool2
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Isnt earths footprint in this region?
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What do you guys make of this?
"SOHO image"

[link to godlikeproductions.com]
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Thank you so much Sammich!

Good stuff.

The region/s around 1692 look pretty hectic,Polarity wise.

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Awesome.

Thank you!
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Whoo hooooo!
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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EVE
[link to img62.imageshack.us]
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Isnt earths footprint in this region?
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Curious also where Earth's footprint is. I never saved the link to show.
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Whoo hooooo!
GOES X-ray
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
M1.6
EVE
[link to img62.imageshack.us]
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Isnt earths footprint in this region?
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Curious also where Earth's footprint is. I never saved the link to show.
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I think in todays news S0 showed it was around that zone, will have to watch again, was near the end
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we can see here that since stabelizing, as stated above, the southern polar field is now growing toward and close to the flip/reverals again.
[link to wso.stanford.edu]
(this was the last reported reading on Feb 26th - almost a month back)
it would be a bit more than uncommon to see it stabelize once more when it hits the reversal stage
 Quoting: NiNzrez 28232082


Hello NiNzhi

You posted this earlier and I bookmarked it but failed to take a decent look at it - Thank you Sooo much for the reminder!

SolStar1NiNzsunrockon
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


very welcome :)

i go to color my hair and come back to that M flare


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